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And this is the sentence where I stopped reading.Just break this down for a second and this post isnt for you 'Rocky" marks or even Fame marks , this is for the real guys who know about the biz and the backstage politics.
By the way- you don't have to point out that somebody is a mark. We understand that it's scripted. We understand that it's been approved. Does that make the marks wrong in their feelings? Can a mark believe that it didn't help the WWE product longterm? Sure and he could be right. Labeling somebody a mark is cheap heat on a wrestling forum. It doesn't make you any better than another poster. Besides, I would hope that there is a bit of a mark in all of us - it adds to the enjoyment of the product. Hell, even the majority of the wrestlers (of whom I've met more than a few and spent time with a couple) have a bit of mark inside them.[/QUOTE}
I simply said the way I felt about the situation, just like he spoke on his feelings.
I don't know the threadstarter any more than he knows the Rock, or either of us know John Cena. Which just goes back to my earlier point. Getting emotional. I could preface everything I say with "well in IMO" and "well it kinda seems a bit mark-ish..." just to make sure I don't hurt anybody's feelings, but come on. We're all adults here. If not, then we need better parental supervision.
Everything you just said shows why you're a mark all the way to your bone gristle. Everything you said is why the Rock, Cena, and the Miz are millionaires and you're posting on an internet chat board. You just don't get it do you?
You're doing exactly what they want you to do. Marking out. Cuz you think this shit is real somehow.
Everything The Rock said was approved, pre-approved, and re-approved in the back. He gave the fans the one feud they want the most. Cuz just as much as you mark out with resentment over the fact that the Rock moved on, people mark out over John Cena being a halfass, lame, cookie-cutter PG version of what Rock was. So what do a bunch of marks put together equal? Money. Vince McMahon may really be a genius.
If one promo "obliterated" everything John Cena has done, then he hasn't really done much to begin with. Let's be for real though. This is gonna end with a handshake and a passing-of-the-torch between the two. Either that or it's gonna end up with a heel John Cena. Either way, it's gonna be epic and it's gonna be good for everyone. John Cena knows this and he's in the back laughing his ass off at everything Rock says.
In the meantime, keep feeding the machine buddy.[/QUOTE
You just proved you dont know alot about the industry. The Rock and the top stars are given free reign to say what they want in their promos. Vince gives them bulletin points to hit and they can ad lib. The point is his promo was all about himself. Hes been gone for 7 years and why should he just get to come in and steal the show. Your the one whos marking out by caving into the so called 'machine' knowledge you quoted. Bottom line if you watch pro wrestling your a mark so dont even call me a mark. I know they are grown men making money and they are friends backstage , only a hick wouldnt know that. Im saying hes a glory hound human and regardless of the money and career Im not gonna suck up to Dewayne Johnson. And John Cena is a loser if he doesnt understand how weak he got made in that promo.
Get a life.I have to say deep down that was pretty pathetic what he did on Raw. He suckered all of you in by showing up and cutting that pompous arrogant promo. I understand what he meant to the WWE at one point but I mean 7 years is a long time in the wrestling world. Just break this down for a second and this post isnt for you 'Rocky" marks or even Fame marks , this is for the real guys who know about the biz and the backstage politics. Honestly when hes been looking down on the WWE for 7 years in interviews and in his demeanor like dropping "The Rock" from his name. He said many many times WWE was his past and that he will not wrestle again. He kept dropping hints at a WWE return in some capacity but WHO CARES ABOUT HIM BEING A LAME HOST???? Everybody in that building and watching wants him to WRESTLE. I dont care who you are or what your place in life is , if you say you only wanna see him and dont care if he wrestles you are a LIAR. Then the clincher was when he said he would never leave again. Well guess what , just watch what happens when his little Hosting stint ends. He is a movie guy now and thats the truth. Im not putting down his success but he seemed desperate to me on RAW trying to be the 30 yr old Rock again. He looks buff and hasnt aged badly but hes not the same guy. Havent you seen his image makeover in the last 7 years. Acting all artsy and calm and hollywood in his talk show appearances and awards show gigs and all that. This is the bad thing about society , too many people are followers and will always be puppets to someone like 'The Rock'. This isnt about me being a 'hater' which is what some people will say. I am a guy who views the WWE from a standpoint of truth and logic. Plus WWE made John Cena look pathetic and bad last night on Raw. Dewayne Johnson buried Cena , the guy who has carried the ball for like 6 years. He made the cena era seem gay and weak. Vince caved to Dewayne and allowed him to bury John Cena. Im sure Cena was tickled in the back but deep down he has to understand how bad he got owned in that promo. It unvalidated everything he did in his career. That one promo obliterated cena. Because Vince allowed it.
And this is the sentence where I stopped reading.
You do not know shit about "the biz" and "the backstage politics". You are a pretender, like so many other people around here. You take what you see on TV, you decide whether you like it or not, and then you concoct your little fantasy reasoning to make you feel like you're not just another schmuck in the seats.
You aren't some insider, you aren't writing to educate the great unwashed masses, you aren't "a real guy who knows about the biz". The closest you've come to the biz is a second-tier seat for a Smackdown taping. Please, don't even pretend you "know about the biz".
That was incredble. Nostalgic. And it gives me one particular (perhaps false) hope... The Rock vs. John Cena at Wrestlemania..
I, only a few weeks ago, watched youtube video of The Rock at Hall of Fame teasing a showdown with John Cena, and this was from years ago. But they planted the seed back then.
.. And now, John Cena is the 'face' of the company. Much like The Rock had been prior to WMX8. I feel like this is all too poetic, all too epic, and now since this promo and the Rock calling out Cena it's all too close to being real without it being a let down to settle for a few stare downs and a Rock Bottom at Mania or guest referee. This is Vince's chance to deliver on that huge match he's been wanting to promote for WM. The circumstance are right right now, and he'll never get this opportunity again. Ever. It has to be now. Vince should beg, and the Rock should concede, and Cena should be fired up. But he shouldn't go heel.
I believe is should be a parallel of the Rock/Hogan WM18 showdown. Yes they will chant for the Rock over Cena, but Cena, since turning super-face hasn't given up on the fans. And he didn't do it when his back was against the wall with Nexus (even though I wanted to see it), and he shouldn't do it here. I think the Rock has this one match in him, if not more. And I think he can take what he dished out in the past. Hogan, previously the biggest superstar in WWE history and face of the company, jobbed to the Rock on the grandest stage. The Rock should job to Cena, for the sake of the WWE.
Who would take Cena's place at top face once Cena's heel and Rock is gone? Morrison isn't ready, and Orton is evil. WWE needs a child favorite... a take your vitamins/ eat your vegetables/ "I can't be pinned cleanly" superhero, and The Rock will graciously except defeat, because Cena, unlike the Austin or Hogan, will somehow kick out of the 3rd Rock Bottom, (we all know it) but The Rock won't kick out of that last AA, or maybe he will, but he will tap to the surprise reversal into the 3rd STF.
I think this would be the way to optimize the return of The Rock... to, at least at Wrestlemania, prove The Rock wrong... for The Rock to job to Cena and "prove" the new WWE lockerroom has it. What's better for WWE's product right now? That, or Cena heel, Rock dominated, end the PG Era, let the kids down new-new WWE? (Won't happen)
This is the opportunity that only comes around once an era, and has to be what Vince is pushing for. An opportunity for John Cena to do the best angle he's ever done, and to come out on top in order to sell more tickets and more merchandise than ever before, and establish a future legend (though not Rock calibur)... but it's not about Cena being better or worse, it's about credibility for Cena, and the product as a whole. The Rock is the utility. The best.
And judging from his return last night, it could also be [some of] the best stuff he's ever done. The Rock... What a great year and great WrestleMANIA this is shaping up to be.
You just proved you dont know alot about the industry. The Rock and the top stars are given free reign to say what they want in their promos. Vince gives them bulletin points to hit and they can ad lib. The point is his promo was all about himself. Hes been gone for 7 years and why should he just get to come in and steal the show. Your the one whos marking out by caving into the so called 'machine' knowledge you quoted. Bottom line if you watch pro wrestling your a mark so dont even call me a mark. I know they are grown men making money and they are friends backstage , only a hick wouldnt know that. Im saying hes a glory hound human and regardless of the money and career Im not gonna suck up to Dewayne Johnson. And John Cena is a loser if he doesnt understand how weak he got made in that promo.