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**MERGED** John Cena Thread - Heel Turn, Matches, Etc. (Keep it in here!!)

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Yea, but to someone who knows Del Rio's background as an MMA fighter, is it really believable that he would be afraid of Cena? I'm not complaining about the way Del Rio is made to be afraid of Cena, I'm just saying I personally find it stupid. Oh, and why is it morally ok for Cena to "steal" Del Rio's car and rip on the kayfabe of Del Rio's character?

Basically he's telling people that Del Rio isn't actually rich, thereby breaking kayfabe. I bet if Del Rio tried that he'd probably be fired or demoted to jobbing at house shows as SuperStars was canceled. Oh, I'd like to say that I take back what I said about Cena's theme music being "metrosexual".

I was trying to convey the point that I think his music isn't badass. Again, it's a matter of opinion and not fact. I also felt like a hypocrite with that statement when I read it back because I'm a big fan of Zack Ryder. Another reason I bashed Cena's theme is because I don't like hip hop.

Oh and haven't you guys ever seen people on tv or in real life that for some reason you just didn't like or you couldn't find them likeable. That is how Cena is to me. Even if he hasn't done anything to me personally, I don't like him and honestly I don't respect him. I don't care how much charity work he does. I just think he's a douche because that's the vibe I get from him. Michael Tarver feels the same way. I watched an interview he did where he basically said Cena's a hard worker but that he's a douche asshole. I'm paraphrasing there because he never used either of those words, but he implied them.

When it comes to Rock and Austin, I meant to say that they were booked to be more human. They weren't booked as Superman. Oh and how can you use the argument that just because Cena is so big and powerful, it's natural for him to work robotic with little technique? That's bullshit because Brock Lesnar was bigger than Cena yet was an amazing technical wrestler. Hell Triple H even told Cena to his face that he sucked after the first match they had against each other. To clarify, he told hiim he sucks as an "in ring wrestler".
 
When it comes to Rock and Austin, I meant to say that they were booked to be more human. They weren't booked as Superman.
No, Steve Austin whipping everyone's ass on a regular basis wasn't Superman at all. Going in the ring, giving everyone the Stunner...not Superman AT ALL.

Oh and how can you use the argument that just because Cena is so big and powerful, it's natural for him to work robotic with little technique?
That's not what I said at all, in fact that's about as far from what I said as any sane person can get. Of course, I think that illustrates just how little you understand pro wrestling.

That's bullshit because Brock Lesnar was bigger than Cena yet was an amazing technical wrestler.
:lmao:

No he wasn't. Brock Lesnar was FAR from a great in-ring worker. Just like Angle, people think because he has an amateur background, that makes him a great pro wrestler, when it couldn't be further from the truth. During the time Brock Lesnar was in the WWE, he could never work half the quality matches Cena has worked over the years.

Hell Triple H even told Cena to his face that he sucked after the first match they had against each other. To clarify, he told hiim he sucks as an "in ring wrestler".
Yes, I saw that interview too. And in the very next sentence Triple H said Cena has proven that he has earned and deserved everything he has ever gotten from the pro wrestling business.

Amusing how the anti-Cena sheep love to talk about Triple H's first sentence, while conveniently ignoring the second.

But if we're going to throw out random wrestlers, how about Chris Jericho's viewpoint?

Chris Jericho said:
I told John not to let people make him believe what they're saying. I told him, you're a good worker. You just need to show people that yes you know what you're doing, because you do. I can't think of the last time I saw a bad PPV match involving John Cena. The guy delivers every single night and he goes above and beyond to help other guys look good.
You can also find similar comments in Jericho's latest book.

How about Kurt Angle?

Kurt Angle said:
Kurt Angle continued by praising Cena, recognizing his natural ability and work ethic. "I knew John would be special. I give him a lot of credit; he works so hard at it. He's a great kid, and when I worked him, we were on TV every week, but my job was to teach him, and he was a great learner. He's one of the guys in the WWE I still really respect. I'm proud of him, and I'm proud to say I helped him a little bit."
http://www.eagletribune.com/sports/...ing-legend-knows-what-it-takes-to-stay-on-top

You can find similar comments from guys like Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan.


Hogan, Jericho, Triple H, Hart, Angle...all of these guys have noted how good of a worker John Cena is. And yet, PunkNation26 disagrees. Who to believe...

EDIT: I found the clip of the Triple H interview.

 
Yea, but to someone who knows Del Rio's background as an MMA fighter, is it really believable that he would be afraid of Cena? I'm not complaining about the way Del Rio is made to be afraid of Cena, I'm just saying I personally find it stupid. Oh, and why is it morally ok for Cena to "steal" Del Rio's car and rip on the kayfabe of Del Rio's character?

Hell of a career he had as an MMA fighter. Most of his fights are shady and his most well known fight was against Cro Cop and he got worked in 46 seconds. It doesn't matter how good he would be from the technical stand point of applying an armbar if Cena's too damn strong.

You really took the whole car thing way wrong. Cena's a well known "car guy" and ripped on ADR for having no idea what he was driving. Plus, since when is morality an issue?

Basically he's telling people that Del Rio isn't actually rich, thereby breaking kayfabe. I bet if Del Rio tried that he'd probably be fired or demoted to jobbing at house shows as SuperStars was canceled. Oh, I'd like to say that I take back what I said about Cena's theme music being "metrosexual".

I was trying to convey the point that I think his music isn't badass. Again, it's a matter of opinion and not fact. I also felt like a hypocrite with that statement when I read it back because I'm a big fan of Zack Ryder. Another reason I bashed Cena's theme is because I don't like hip hop.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

So, you bashed his theme for no reason and looked like an ass? I'll be darned.

Oh and haven't you guys ever seen people on tv or in real life that for some reason you just didn't like or you couldn't find them likeable. That is how Cena is to me. Even if he hasn't done anything to me personally, I don't like him and honestly I don't respect him. I don't care how much charity work he does. I just think he's a douche because that's the vibe I get from him. Michael Tarver feels the same way. I watched an interview he did where he basically said Cena's a hard worker but that he's a douche asshole. I'm paraphrasing there because he never used either of those words, but he implied them.

Michael Tarver's word means lots compared to the guys Sly posted, definitely.

So, you have no viable reason for bashing Cena? You just don't like him, but don't know why? Okay. Yeah, fuck all the charity work Cena does for kids, 'cause he's a douche! :lmao:

When it comes to Rock and Austin, I meant to say that they were booked to be more human. They weren't booked as Superman. Oh and how can you use the argument that just because Cena is so big and powerful, it's natural for him to work robotic with little technique? That's bullshit because Brock Lesnar was bigger than Cena yet was an amazing technical wrestler. Hell Triple H even told Cena to his face that he sucked after the first match they had against each other. To clarify, he told hiim he sucks as an "in ring wrestler".

"Here comes Austin, here comes Austin!" *Stuns everybody*

Rock pulled the same stuff too. You clearly have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. The only human aspect about Stone Cold's character was the fact that he was a beer swilling red neck, for fuck's sake, the man went at it with Mike Tyson, yet you fault Cena for wrecking Alberto Del Rio who has limited MMA skills.

Cena doesn't work like a robot, but his style fits his powerful nature. His moves are right for his build, etc. Lesnar was not a good technical wrestler, he just knew how to do a few bits of mat wrestling, which Cena has done before too.
 
I want to ask a general question to SlyFox, Hamler, The Champ and Dirty Jose.
Are you defending Cena because you genuinely like him and are fans, or are you defending him against people who don't have valid reasons as to why they don't like him?
(serious question)
 
[cL];3442534 said:
I want to ask a general question to SlyFox, Hamler, The Champ and Dirty Jose.
Are you defending Cena because you genuinely like him and are fans, or are you defending him against people who don't have valid reasons as to why they don't like him?
(serious question)

How bout both? John Cena is the top performer in the WWE and one of the main reasons I watch Raw. It's just stupid how people will think of anything just to insult how great he is. There's no one better on the roster and I don't see how some of you Cena haters don't see that. I don't care about how much shit he sales or whatever, but the fact that he isn't affected by the idiots who try to boo him speaks to me. He does put on great matches. He has the ability to put someone over just by being in the ring with them which is more then I can say for just about anyone on the WWE roster. I hate how it's looked down upon to be 18 or over and still like Cena. He's a great performer and no one has said anything (this thread or any other thread) to prove otherwise. Cena > Everyone on the roster. Prove me wrong...
 
[cL];3442534 said:
Are you defending Cena because you genuinely like him and are fans, or are you defending him against people who don't have valid reasons as to why they don't like him?
(serious question)

Mostly the latter, but not entirely. I enjoy Cena. He's not my favorite, he's not why I watch Raw, but most of the time I enjoy his presence so I suppose that makes me a fan of sorts. The last time I can recall being peeved at Cena was the turn around of giving the title to Mysterio (who, to be fair, had no right to hold that title or really any other given the poor physical shape he's in) and then turning around and giving it to Cena in the same night, but that has as much to do with the better timing the booking of putting off the win (and Punk's return) for a little longer would have been as it does with any annoyance at seeing the belt more or less fed back to Cena so quickly.

Overall, I enjoy his gimmick, I enjoy his work, I feel the good rep he gets among top guys in the industry like Jericho and Angle is well deserved, and that most importantly he is the top guy for a reason and that is because he is the best guy for that job. I've always been the type who's favorite guys are just a notch or two below the top guys, but I'm also the type to not really pull my hair out over the pecking order and just enjoy the damn show while I still find it entertaining and quit when I don't.

I've said it before, here and elsewhere, and I'll say it again: disliking or hating Cena is not wrong, nor is it stupid, and in fact I can see where the feeling comes from. I can dig it. But so many of the arguments presented are petty and reactionary. To say "I don't like Cena, I wish they'd find new stars" or something along those lines, and to explain with "I just don't like his in-ring style, I find him bland and one dimensional" or whatever is just fine by me. There's no accounting for taste, you know?

I draw the line at frankly stupid accusations like that he doesn't love the business, is only there because he has nowhere else to be, or that only women and children like him. Bullshit about how WWE treats him or how the things he does and the way he is portrayed is any different than what WWE has done for any other top guy they've had is what draws my ire. The statements that "ALL REAL MEN AND/OR WRESTLING FANS" hate Cena and that the majority of the WWE fans hate him are both ridiculous statements and are easily proven false. As are silly arguments about how he's killing Raw or how ratings have dropped under his run at the top; a few tenths of a point in ratings changes are a drop in the bucket and hardly worth crying about.
 
[cL];3442534 said:
I want to ask a general question to SlyFox, Hamler, The Champ and Dirty Jose.
Are you defending Cena because you genuinely like him and are fans, or are you defending him against people who don't have valid reasons as to why they don't like him?
(serious question)

As already said, the answer is both, though more because people say stupid things to criticize him, and I like to point out stupidity. If someone says, "Cena just doesn't really appeal to me. His character isn't what I look for in a wrestler and while I know many people think he's a great wrestler, I struggle to be interested in his matches" then I would have absolutely no problem with that. When someone makes a statement of personal preference, I usually don't mind.

It's when they make statements of quality or "fact" that I rise up to defend him. When they say "Cena sucks" or "Cena can't wrestle", etc., that's when I like to point out their stupidity. At this point and time, for anyone to say Cena is not at least one of the very best workers in the roster just shows they're either ignorant or stupid. You don't have to like him, but you can still be honest about how good he is.
 
[cL];3442534 said:
I want to ask a general question to SlyFox, Hamler, The Champ and Dirty Jose.
Are you defending Cena because you genuinely like him and are fans, or are you defending him against people who don't have valid reasons as to why they don't like him?
(serious question)
I think my banner makes it pretty clear that I genuinely like him and am a fan. But part of the reason I defend him rather vehemently is because people have stupid and irrational reasons why they hate him. I don't care if anyone doesn't like Cena, obviously no one is obligated to like any one particular wrestler. But when people come up with ridiculous justifications as to why he supposedly sucks or is in desperate need of a heel turn, I argue. Just because it's clear to me that he's one of the best around and I'm not sure why people seem to have a problem admitting that.
 
Ok. I can feel all of that.
I am not a fan and probably never will be. I did enjoy him in the past but over the years his persona began to lack the luster it once had, to me and as of late, i've found him to be predictably boring and stale.
Now, again I believe the man is a workhorse. I think that over the past 7 years he's worked his butt off for the company, in and outside of the ring, as his record in Wish Granting is second to none. I believe that he loves his fans genuinely and does everything he knows how to keep them happy.
I am not a fan, as previously stated, of his in ring work. I think his promo's are hit or miss. Sometimes they are fun, and other times cringe worthy. I tend to like those who are more skilled (Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Curt Hennig, Arn Anderson) with entertaining ring performance (Shawn Michaels, Undertaker) who are amazing on the mic (Rock, Austin, Macho Man, Jake Roberts, Flair & Michael Hayes). Out of the guys I mentioned the closest thing to the total package was HBK.
When I see John Cena, I DO see a man who works hard, so I can never take away from that ethic.
But let me ask you fellas this. Do you think, in the Golden era, or the Attitude era, that Vince would have pulled the plug on him with the reaction he's getting now? Would he be as high up the ladder as he is seeing that those "Cena Sucks" chants seem to get louder and louder every week?
Or would Vince do as he's doing now?
 
[cL];3443282 said:
But let me ask you fellas this. Do you think, in the Golden era, or the Attitude era, that Vince would have pulled the plug on him with the reaction he's getting now? Would he be as high up the ladder as he is seeing that those "Cena Sucks" chants seem to get louder and louder every week?
Or would Vince do as he's doing now?

Your estimation of the Cena Sucks chants is hardly scientific. Many times they are near silent, other times they are the louder group. It usually depends on the location. Either way, I don't think it would be keeping Cena from being at the top. I also think the crowds back then would see it differently, and I'm not sure they would even progress to the "Cena Sucks" chants.

Cena catches shit simply by being the top guy in an era where crusty old bitter men lament that they are no longer the audience WWE is after any longer. They miss the Attitude days, they miss the titty and sex jokes, the high spots, the blood, the violence, the "mature" content, and the closest thing they have to a punching bag for it is Cena, the poster boy. I suspect that much of the hatred he receives are for things he has no control over and has no part of.

Finally, Rocky himself drew jeers and boos the likes of which not even Cena sees. That didn't stop Vince from investing in him and giving him pushes. I'm inclined to believe that Cena would still be a top guy in any era, and that anyone in Vince's position would recognize that potential in him.
 
When he was heel...Cena is the biggest baby face since...well ever. And he's still getting jeers. That is significant and IMO he would be at the same standard as D'Lo Brown, Val Venis and Test.

I meant the initial Rocky Maivia face run, dipshit. Chants of "die Rocky die" are a far cry from "Cena sucks". And yet he draws and sells and puts on great matches, something the guys you list never did. Try again.
 
Originally Posted by [cL]
"But let me ask you fellas this. Do you think, in the Golden era, or the Attitude era, that Vince would have pulled the plug on him with the reaction he's getting now? Would he be as high up the ladder as he is seeing that those "Cena Sucks" chants seem to get louder and louder every week?
Or would Vince do as he's doing now?"



Cena wouldn't of stood a chance in HELL being apart of the Attitude Era! He would've been turned Heel, adults/teens wouldn't have tolerated a cookie-cutter babyface.
They didn't accept it with The Rock either, when he debuted as Rocky Maivia there was chants of 'Die Rocky die!'
A lot seem to forget how corny he was back then. I keep hoping that Cena might bring that up in a Promo? would be interesting.
 
Seems contradictory that Cena supporters say it's okay if others do not like him, but it's not okay if detractors do anything short of saying he's the best in the world.

He might be the best WWE's got at this point and time. Maybe that means the current main event scene and midcard are terrible. Maybe it doesn't.

I don't enjoy having Cena on my television. I don't get excited when his music starts playing. I used to be somewhat of a fan, but that aspect of my fandom crawled into a corner and died years ago. I don't feel like Cena does anything (on the television, I don't give a shit what he does backstage or off the clock) that is so much better than other performers. I'm not on the edge of my seat for his promos, neither am I for his matches. Often times they both feel regurgitated and/or uninteresting. These issues are compounded when said performer is in every main event and is holding the WWE championship roughly 60% of the time.

Now, let's put something into perspective.

I don't care if anyone likes Cena, obviously no one is obligated to not like any one particular wrestler. But when people come up with ridiculous justifications as to why he is supposedly great or why a heel turn would mean the end of the world, I argue. Just because it's clear to me that he's one of the worst around and I'm not sure why people seem to have a problem admitting that.
 
Dirty Sanchez or whatever his name is wants to be a keyboard bully. He wants people to agree with him or else they're a dumbass or a dipshit. Most of his posts consist of him flaming people and telling us that because Cena sells ugly shirts , he is the greatest wrestler of all time.
For 1. i'm pretty sure that was spamming. 2. Both DirtyJOSE and Slyfox have been trying to point out that you think your dislike for Cena is based on facts. I've read your reasons for disliking Cena and they aren't facts at all they're just based on your own point of views and comparisons with other former wrestlers.

Also, your sounding like a whiny child right now trying to get back at the other kids for embarrassing you by telling everyone they're big meanies.

And so to not make this not a spam post:

I don't exactly dislike Cena but IN MY OPINION(hint hint PunkNation) Cena has almost been too larger than life and FROM MY POINT OF VIEW it's made the people he's feuded against(with the exception of Punk as of recently) look like mid carders with no chance against him. And by having that mindset its made me think he's insufferable and repetitive.

BUT since Punk has pinned him twice already it's made it seem as though he and Cena really are on the same level and i no longer automatically think Cena's gonna win in every match he's in. And with just that little twist their feud had had i feel like i've been actually enjoying his matches because there's actually a chance he'll lose.

Because of that possibility i'm really looking forward to the Hell in a Cell 3 way match. And if he does end up winning, i might actually be OK with that because of the inevitable feud he'd have with Del Rio or Punk(or both).


Notice how i only expressed my opinion, perception, the fact that Punk has beaten Cena twice, and a prediction.
 
I never said all of my reasons for hating Cena are based on facts. I also don't think that post was "spam". Spam would be me posting advertisments for twitter or something like that. Also, Dirty Jose does constantly call people "dipshit" or some derrogatory comment. But I WILL stand by my posts that it's FACT that Cena is not a in ring wrestler. It's fact because wrestling may be predetermined, but move execution is an actual artform as are martial arts.

Cena has been in the WWE for 9 years and still hasn't really improved. He has coasted and rested on his current spot in the main event. Randy Orton and Triple H have both said in the past, that in terms of in ring technique, that Cena does in fact, SUCK. I thought my last post had enough content in it to be relevant to this topic. Also, it would have been longer, but I posted it using my PS3 and I don't have a keyboard for it right now.
 
I never said Jose doesn't call people names, i said you're acting like a whiny child.

And it is YOUR OPINION that Cena hasn't improved in the ring. I don't know if he has or hasn't improved because i haven't been a fan of wrestling for that long. But do i think Cena's a great wrestler? No, but he's decent nowadays. But some people think he HAS improved.

Also, i hear all the time that Orton and HHH are bad wrestlers. Although i do disagree, why should i care what they think about Cena when they've both received similar criticism?

But if you want to throw quotes around from other wrestlers, fine:

When I look at that company right now, John Cena is the guy who anchors it all. Some people get mad because they feel like WWE shove it down your throat, but he’s the main guy! Whether you love to hate him or you love to love him - you gotta respect him.

I have a lot of respect for John - he’s been carrying the company for several years and he comes into work every day with a smile on his face and does all the promotional work and never complains.

I tell you John Cena has had some great matches with some great guys - sometimes his body of work gets overlooked, the guy has proven himself over and over again. I call a spade a spade and John has done a tremendous job and he’s got a few years left yet. He’ll keep riding that lightening bolt."

That quote is from Steve Austin, and its a RECENT interview.

As for the spamming thing:
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=59463
Read General Rule A

By the way, why should i care that your post would've been longer? No one cares about your keyboard!!
 
Well, on this site if your posts aren't a certain length, it's apparently considered spamming. It's kinda ironic that your only 16 years old and you're calling me a whiny child? I have been watching wrestling for about 15 years. I have formed my opinions on my own without the aid of the internet or somebody telling me to think a certain way. I have never liked Cena. I've always thought he sucked and loved it when Brock Lesnar squashed him in 2003.

I started coming to this particular thread as a way of venting my frustrations about Cena. Also, when you post something on here, it's automatically implied that it's an opinion unless I specifically put the phrase "it's a fact" in front of it.
 
I'm calling you a whiny child because you just acted like one, which is kinda ironic seeing as YOU'RE 25.

I'm not gonna deny that at first my opinions of wrestlers were influenced by the internet, but that was at first and only because i didn't know who anyone was. You can't tell me that when you first became a fan you didn't cheer or boo for a wrestler because everyone else cheered or booed for a wrestler. But now you've got your opinions, and, even if it's only a little more than a year, i've got my own.

And you did say that you're opinion is a fact:

But I WILL stand by my posts that it's FACT that Cena is not a in ring wrestler.

That is an opinion. There are barely any wrestling fans where i live but whenever i talk to one about WWE they say that they love John Cena. He's a beast, and he's great, etc.
 
Dirty Sanchez or whatever his name is wants to be a keyboard bully. He wants people to agree with him or else they're a dumbass or a dipshit. Most of his posts consist of him flaming people and telling us that because Cena sells ugly shirts , he is the greatest wrestler of all time.
See, PunkNation, age is not maturity. Maturity is in how you act, and this post makes it pretty clear to me that you were in fact whining.

But as for what you said about Orton and Triple H, Cena was a far better wrestler than Orton until this year, and while he's better by a smaller margin now, he's still better. He's also better than Triple H, who seems to rely on gimmick matches a bit more and has less matches that I would consider classics over the last few years. When I put the three guys' bodies of work side by side, especially if we're mainly considering the last five years or so, Cena wins without question. Now, that's only my opinion, and you can feel free to debate it if you want. It's not fact. But I will defend it and I won't sugarcoat what I think. That's been the difference between Jose and you, and moreover, the difference between you and most people in this thread.
 
DirtyJosé;3443675 said:
I meant the initial Rocky Maivia face run, dipshit. Chants of "die Rocky die" are a far cry from "Cena sucks". And yet he draws and sells and puts on great matches, something the guys you list never did. Try again.

May I just say, do you really think a PG crowd would be capable of "Die rocky die" chants? No. Cena sucks is the modern day equivalent. During Rocky's first face stage he was still an unknown and his charismatic nature was yet to be fully utilised by the creative team. Safe to say after he cut some of his arrogantly amusing face promos, those chants quickly stopped. But for Cena they have been relentless for the past 8 years.

Why is that? If he was actually really top draw, a good wrestler and good on the mic, like so many on here say; surely the overall consensus would be that he is a fan favourite, but he just isn't. Too many boos and jeers for the baby face of the company, in my opinion. I know he has an audience of predominately children with his bright coloured clothing and cheesy promos but jesus WWE, tweak his persona a bit so he can appeal to the older viewers.
 
My John Cena Complaint today is that the silly bastard has been given another useless title that lasted less than a month.... just disgusting that he will pass Ric Flair soon based on meaningless and short termed reigns.
 
I can't stand Cena either... more to the point, I don't like him as a babyface and his in-ring routine is so over with and tired. Wasn't bad as a heel, he was humorous to watch in the post-Attitude Era when he was doing the vulgar freestyle rap thing. I feel like he may have been pushed as a face too soon, too quickly. Granted, it probably couldn't be helped with so many of the top guys having left.

Sometimes I watch him now, and while he's tiresome and not funny at all when he's trying to be witty, I almost wish I was there backstage to say "What in the hell can be done to make you appeal to those that hate you? Do something to make me like you!" But, he doesn't have to, that's why we have CM Punk. It's become more of a trend of including characters that can each appeal to certain segments of the audience.

We get it that Cena is PG Kid-friendly, not every adult is going to go along with it. Punk does his worked shoot promos to work over the IWC and ROH marks but I have to say it's still entertaining. He does say some shit that a lot of guys couldn't get away with which is what appeals to me.

Really, if you don't want to see Cena, mute the TV and wait til he's done or if he's at the end, just stop watching early... or treat it like a Diva's match that doesn't involve one of the 4 actual female wrestlers on the roster and go take a leak.
 
My John Cena Complaint today is that the silly bastard has been given another useless title that lasted less than a month.... just disgusting that he will pass Ric Flair soon based on meaningless and short termed reigns.

To be fair, blame the WWE for booking it not the man. My John Cena complaint of the day is his failure to sell his beatdown last night by sprinting to the ring absolutely unscathed tonight.

Edit: Not only did he poorly sell his beatdown by sprinting to the ring. In the ring he is doing his jumping soldier barge like there is no tomorrow. Pretty sure the 6 or 7 lead pipe strikes would've hurt him at least a little bit.
 
Running to the ring is his thing and he's not going to stop doing it every time he has a "brutal" pay-per-view match. Lame complaint. It's not like he hasn't done this plenty of times before.

Am I really the only person who remembers Punk jumping all around the ring the night after his match with Triple H?

Also, title reigns should not be blamed on Cena because that's a product of poor and inconsistent booking. WWE doesn't know what the hell they're doing with the titles and that's why they change hands so often.
 
And? He didn't sell it two weeks ago. Is this week more important than that week, for some reason?

If you're going to criticize one person for doing something, that criticism has to be universal. If not, that's what they call hypocrisy.
 

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