WWE General Complaints Thread

[The Boss]

Don't complain. Just stop watching WWE and watch TNA. Only if the ratings shift will WWE change their product. As we have seen just a dip in the ratings isn't enough. But if they stay low AND the ratings of TNA go up then and ONLY then will WWE do something to improve their product. It worked in the 90s and it can work again. But you have to commit. As long as you continue to watch you are telling Vince that you accept it as it is.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

I was watching a little bit of Raw this week. Well, since I was watching the 49ners destroy the Bears, I really didn't have the time to watch Raw. I know, that is something awful to say.. But hey.However, from the bits of Raw and Smackdown I was watching. I really noticed something. The good heels get the TV time, and comedy segments. Now, the reason I bring this up is because it really shows the weakness of the program.

Yes you got Kofi Kingston calling out Barrett, and Orton wanting to beat up Del Rio. But, most of the filler is Kane and Bryan. Sanito. Yes, you have Cena with his decent mic skills. Ryback vs. Punk is okay, only because Punk is selling his heel role.

But, the faces can't grow with this. Kofi is bland, and a majority of the faces are rough on the Mic. Yes, Miz is switching over, but that is going to take a while for that to break through.

The point I hope I got across is... The WWE can't build faces that matter. They can build heels, but when it comes to making a new face, they don't got it. Ryback was the new age Goldberg. Cena has had the face role for awhile. But it just seems WWE creative just makes comedy and heels.

What do the majority think? Should they look for more creative writers who can develop characters? Should they reach out to former wrestling "gurus" to turn things around? Does anyone have other ideas? Or if you are happy with the current product, express why.

Cheers!

 

[Dysturbed]

The title says it all Who is to blame for the poor ratings in WWE Vince McMahon The writers or both.

I'm not trying to absolve Vince or the writers of any blame, nor am I saying that the product is close to being great but I think that the biggest thing to blame is inevitability. Once a scripted primetime show hits certain marks with ratings, the show(s) are never going to permanently maintain them. Eventually ratings will lower or a show will go off the air before that can happen too much. Those shows though tend to air 22 episodes per year at the most. WWE has produced 52 episodes a year for each of it's main two shows for a long time and keeps on going so imo, regardless of factors like business decisions or writing, a show like Raw is going to dip from time to time, then stay consistent, then dip some more, even without factoring in how good or bad a product is. Factoring those things in though doesn't help with ratings. Some people will still watch if a show is mediocre because it is a habit, moreso than a desire, but eventually habits can usually be broken. They have been for a lot of people so ratings have gone down.

Factoring in how long the show has been on though and how difficult it is to create a new concept or alter existing ones helps add to that as does the fact that there are so many other options on television and so many other options of how and when people can watch shows, in this case WWE related ones. Again, I am not suggesting that your two options of Vince and writing aren't big factors, but longevity alone is going to have a downside of people eventually wanting to move on when it comes to longer term viewers. Newer viewers on the other hand may just prefer other options or genuinely dislike the product.

 

[Luten]

My Ten pet peeves with WWE right now:

1. Michael Cole on commentary
2. John Cena
3. The Spinner Belt
4. Not ending the brand extension when clearly it isn’t needed anymore
5. Not Unifying the WWE and World Heavyweight Titles, something that should’ve been done about two years ago
6. Twitter / and the incessant pandering of social media – this does not make the WWE any money and wastes too much TV time.
7. Concept PPV’s – The enigma of Hell in a Cell has been destroyed forever.
8. Teddy Long always coming out and booking the most obvious matches, usually a tag team match.
9. Superstars not being themselves and speaking their heart on the mic. Shooting from the hip = overness. Hence CM Punk.
10. Too many new wrestlers looking/dressing/sounding the same.

 

[mojmass]

I think if they focus on ring skill and keep the other think like promos and mic talks, omit or improve divas division (it should be wrestling not beauty run) and if they be willing to sacrifice their BUSINESS a little to improve their show and matches it will be a lot better. PG era idea is generally good but they are overdoing it (like having ONLY AND ONLY one cell match at hell in a cell PPV which was screwed up).
And more importantly they should avoid having stupid matches (like most of ryback's match and other squash matches they have) and focus on young stars well superstars like john cena, randy orton and so many others can't wrestle for ever and they need new stars which they keep destroying for these past years.

 

[EZMoney20]

A few weeks ago, Mark Madden wrote an interesting two-part article called "Jump The Shark" (http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/263975-jumped-the-shark). He went into some detail talking about the problems of the current WWE product. And while I know that Mark is extremely controversial and usually comes off as bitter, I think he hit the nail right on the head this time.

Now, I'm not here to compare today's era to The Attitude Era or turn this thread into a b*tchfest, but I'd like to hear everybody's thoughts on today's WWE product. Specifically, what's missing from it? For me, it all starts at the beginning.

Like many of you, I've been a lifelong WWE fan which spans back to the late-80s. I've been through multiple eras and have seen just about every gimmick imaginable. Let's face it, the WWE has been a part of my life since day 1. Will I ever stop watching? I don't know, but other than a few brief hiatuses, here I am...still watching.

Like many of you who have been watching the WWE for over 20 years, you've obviously grown up and have acquired different interests over time. Some of the WWE characters and storylines that may have appealed to you as a kid or even teenager, may no longer appeal to you now. In addition, you're smarter. You're not as naive. You understand the business and everything that goes along with it. But I have to say...I agree with Mark Madden. I think today's WWE product is at the lowest quality since I started watching.

So the question is...why? Quite frankly, I think the PG rating has absolutely nothing to do with the quality. I think the current crop of superstars are just fine. I think the production quality is top rate. To me, the problem is quite simply the writing. I don't get it. I don't get how Vince McMahon and everybody else at the top doesn't see it. If they want to appeal to the kids, fine. If they want to Tweet and Tout, fine. If they want to align with certain causes, I'm okay with that, too. I am not okay; however, with the creative direction of this company.

I'll give you an example. As a native Philadelphian and Eagles fan, I had to endure one of the WORST Monday Night Football games of all-time. No seriously. Historically, the Eagles and Panthers had the 3rd worst combined records in the history of Monday Night Football. And the game lived up to those expectations. Those two teams stink. I felt like I was watching a preseason game where the outcome didn't matter, and I was just scouting the rookies and figuring out who'd be on the roster next year. The stadium was dead. The crowd was dead. Yeah, Philadelphia fans were dead. They were beaten down so much from the past 14 years that there was absolutely no JUICE in the stadium...and you could tell through the TV.

That's what the WWE is to me right now. It's lifeless. Sure, I watch as a fan but that's only because it's what I'm used to. I like sports entertainment just like I like football. I'm not going to stop watching, but I may stop caring. As a result, I don't attend WWE events anymore. I don't buy merchandise. I don't pay for pay-per-views. Sure, I'll watch Raw on Monday, but I usually DVR it and wait an hour or two so I can fast-forward through all the commercials, recaps, recaps of the recaps, and any other useless material. And if I have something better to do, I'll watch Raw another night...or not. And Smackdown...sure they have some quality "wrestling" matches, but do they even care about the major storylines? Does anything progress? Of course not. It's the B-show. In fact, the pay-per-views of today were what the Raws and Smackdowns were 10-15 years ago.

So will I stop rambling now? Yes. And here is my point. The WWE essentially revolves their entire product around the part-time stars. Everything else is just filler. As Mark states in his article, most of us (and certainly the casual fans) are just waiting for The Rock, The Undertaker, and Brock Lesnar to return...the REAL stars. Honestly, that's what I've been doing. I remember thinking at this past year's Wrestlemania, "Man, I'm so excited that The Rock has finally come back, but what happens the day after Wrestlemania?" And what happened, The Rock said he'd be going for the WWE Championship, and Brock Lesnar returned. And I thought to myself, "Okay. Even if The Rock doesn't actually win the WWE Championship, at least he'll be around here and there. And even if Brock has limited appearances, at least he'll have a few matches." And so what did I look forward to next? Obviously, Brock's return match. And then after? Raw 1000...the next time I'd knew we'd see the real stars again. And then what? Summerslam for Brock's next match. Now, it's the waiting game until the Royal Rumble for The Rock's championship match. Lastly, it'll be for Wrestlemania 29. But then what? I have absolutely no idea...

 

[Albert T]

This undoubtedly is the weakest period in the WWE's history. The product is truly uninspired in almost every way. There are a few bright spots, but in a company that has experienced so much quality over numerous decades, there is truly and honestly no excuse. The company sucks because of a combination of neglect and lack of perspective. Vince is so enamored with his past successes that he's forgotten why he was triumphant in the first place. He needs to take a chance and listen to others and to give opportunities to his roster, with no string attached. Ryback's emergency title shot was fantastic precisely because of that fact. Rey or Randy could have gone in, but Vince let his new prospect in early and now he's got more momentum because of it. Taking chances is what made the World Wrestling Federation great for a long time and it can make World Wrestling Entertainment even more successful. I just hope they realize that fact before the worst chooses to happen at the most inopportune time.

 

[DirtyD79]

I'm not excusing WWE's over-reliance on part timers but it's really quite simple why they do it. Next to John Cena and CM Punk shirts what sells the most these days for WWE? DVDs! In particular DVDs covering the attitude era, the nWo, The Monday Night Wars, and ECW. But here's the thing much as we enjoyed it then it doesn't necessarily mean we want to watch it now.

I'll put it another way you mentioned the Philadelphia Eagles, I'm a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and as bad as things are right now with Big Ben being injured it doesn't mean I think they should tell Terry Bradshaw to come on down from the studio and start against the Baltimore Ravens this Sunday. Just because Troy Polamalu may be down with a bum calf and the rest of the defense is just barely getting by doesn't mean I'm hoping Rod Woodson will hit the comeback trail and bring Kevin Greene, Levon Kirkland, and Greg Lloyd with him.

Why? Because as good as all those guys were back in the day, their time has come and gone. And just because I thought Stone Cold Steve Austin beating up Vince McMahon and the nWo doing a hostile takeover on WCW was awesome back then doesn't mean I want them to do it now. Back then it was fresh and original, now it's stale and cliche.

 

[#MrScissorsKick]

I honestly don't care what others think or say about the current WWE product. Because at the end of the day, it's still wrestling. I don't care if people say it's too PG, or Cena sucks or RAW is too long, or SmackDown is terrible....etc etc. There comes a point where you have to draw a line and cut off the negative people saying things like that. Sure, I'm not one to say that the WWE is in the highest peak but I still find time to watch the WWE. Sure, the current product isn't the most entertaining. Sure, the shows are boring. Sure, the attitude era needs to return. Blah Blah Blah. I think the IWC has played a big part in how the WWE has become. Honestly, I've been a fan of wrestling since i was like 7 or 8 or whatever. I know the WWE's more entertaining years were in the past but like it or not, the WWE isn't going to change their product to suit everyone of the IWC, including me, but im not here to complain about it. I just shut my mouth and try to be entertained, no matter who tries to complain about it.

 

[JohnJohnson]

I honestly don't care what others think or say about the current WWE product. Because at the end of the day, it's still wrestling. I don't care if people say it's too PG, or Cena sucks or RAW is too long, or SmackDown is terrible....etc etc. There comes a point where you have to draw a line and cut off the negative people saying things like that. Sure, I'm not one to say that the WWE is in the highest peak but I still find time to watch the WWE. Sure, the current product isn't the most entertaining. Sure, the shows are boring. Sure, the attitude era needs to return. Blah Blah Blah. I think the IWC has played a big part in how the WWE has become. Honestly, I've been a fan of wrestling since i was like 7 or 8 or whatever. I know the WWE's more entertaining years were in the past but like it or not, the WWE isn't going to change their product to suit everyone of the IWC, including me, but im not here to complain about it. I just shut my mouth and try to be entertained, no matter who tries to complain about it.

i think this attitude here is a big reason why wrestling has gotten so stale. Pro wrestling fans will watch it just because it's pro wrestling. It was good in the past because the fans demanded it. Nowadays there is no longer real competition and the fans they have gained and kept from over the years will likely still watch time to time just because of what it is. It's almost like going to McDonald's or Burger King and they mess up you're order but you eat it anyways just because it's there. This happens constantly and since you never say anything, no one in the back actually cares. They still get paid and you still eat the crap they serve you. Then on the few rare days that they actually make your burger right you praise them and tell them it's "gold" when in reality it's just standard. And then, to make things worse, when another customer decides to make suggestions to improve the product, you just shut them down and tell em to keep eating what they are being served, which just makes the people in the back more complacent with their work. Mark Madden
was right on when he referred to current wrestliong as "fastfood wrestling". Fast food workers don't care about putting out the best quality. They worry about putting out a steady amount of units. They make sure they put out some minimalistic novelty gift for their kids meals to keep the kids coming, and they put out something for the actual money spending consumer to be appeased with. Everynow and then they will bring back some specialty food for a brief time(like the McRib) and that wwill draw in more attention and money for a while and then they go back to the same old business as usual. They survive on their logos. WWE like McDonalds are both the most popular logos in their respective fields. They are both internationally recognized logos and familiar with just about every household, every child, every adult who has consumed their product since childhood. They will each throw out a few stats out there to "legitimize" their recognition so to speak. Look at the development of McDonalds over the years. Their main product is burgers just as WWE's is wrestling. Both have their sides and drinks to tie it all together. In WWE it would be the promos and gimicks etc. As McDonalds grew over the past decade or so did they improve their food? or did they spend a lot of money on remodeling their lobbies to look more contemporary, adding a cafe to keep up with the trends, creating new logos and catch phrases, and ultimately just throwing out a bunch of cheap flares to give the illusion of an ever developing product when in reality they are still serving the same old food prepared by a bunch of people who don't give a shit as long as they are still getting paid. Is the WWE not doing the same thing. Same old bs wrestling, same old bs "hi my name is this and I play this role" promos just with a lot more flare. The production value is higher than it's ever been. They improved their special effects and overall viewing quality while serving crap still. I don't care about all the flare though damnit and so many people can't seem to look past it or simply refuse to. I'd rather go to some hole-in-the-wall mom and pop diner that makes the best damn burger and fries because they actually give a shit and want to keep their business going. I don't care if the lobby has old beat up furniture and there aren't bright LCD screens all over the place. Quite frankly that's not what I came for. I want to eat a good meal and be completely satisfied afterwards. And I would like to have the courtesy of the diner listenning to how I felt about the meal(ratings in WWE's case) and actually doing something to improve it versus the McDonalds manager give me a fake smile or a nasty look for having the audacity of questioning their product and then giving me the same damn thing again. You can't honestly say you've lost touch with your inner wrestling fan when you just continue to refer to wrestling as "the product" and accept whatever is given to you just because the flare is nice, or the business is still thriving. Hell McDonalds will always thrive and it will always continue to shut down mom and pop diners, but if you are truly a fan of burgers you support what pleases you and not what's just available. Imagine the good old exciting wrestling of yesteryear with all the real stars but with today's production value. That my friends is where you attain "pure gold".

 

[Bone For Tuna]

I for one think whoever is in charge of the music needs a slap upside the head. Maybe not so much the wrestlers themes, though I wouldn't say that's too great, but the music they choose for the shows and PPVs. I don't really listen to bands like Saliva or Drowning Pool, but their music really used to fit well with WWE, a lot better then the shit they got now. How long before Bieber is singing the champions theme at Wrestlemania?

 

[wzBRobinson]

I honestly believe one of the biggest reasons wrestling got so hot in the nineties had to do with the change in the kind of TV people were watching. Wrestling was kind of the start of the reality TV craze of the late 90s, now almost everything is reality based. I think with all these different types of shows, and reality based charachters,wrestling just got lost in the mix. Experienced workers led their respective promotions in their hey days. I think lack of experienced workers, lack of direction,and the evolution of TV as a whole have brought the wwe down.

 

[JohnJohnson]

I honestly believe one of the biggest reasons wrestling got so hot in the nineties had to do with the change in the kind of TV people were watching. Wrestling was kind of the start of the reality TV craze of the late 90s, now almost everything is reality based. I think with all these different types of shows, and reality based charachters,wrestling just got lost in the mix. Experienced workers led their respective promotions in their hey days. I think lack of experienced workers, lack of direction,and the evolution of TV as a whole have brought the wwe down.

That would be a viable argument for something like the lower ratings. However that doesn't explain the poor quality of the show. The show's quality is independent of anything else on tv whereas it's success is influenced. The promotion is still ran by the same guy who ran it back then along with one of the key players in the success of those times. This is just a blatant lack of effort due largely in part to an audience that just "sits there and takes it."

 

[wzBRobinson]

Point taken, so then the obvious problem is Vince himself. He lost touch in the early 90s, and I suppose he has again to a degree. I guess the irony of it all is that you have a leader in Vince that puts out a product he thinks is good to a demographic that really doesnt know any better, and really wouldnt vocalize their disapproval if they did.

 

[JohnJohnson]

I don't think it's so much that he lost touch, I think it's more that he's satisified with just doing enough to get by with the network. I think inside he has already retired. I mean he rarely even bothers to show up on TV despite the fact that he is a huge draw. I don't think he cares so much about putting out a great product for pro wrestling fans as he does about spreading his legacy all over the world before he passes. He will always be known fo his contributions to pro wrestling but since that's not a very big thing anymore he is trying to get his hands in every other thing that is. The WWE is now well known through pretty much all facet of social media which is huge in todays society, they have been doing many overseas tours, there has been an abundance of work with various celebrities, they have been putting more emphasis on the military than ever before, they are huge with the make a wish foundation, and they have several films out there. I think this is all one final attempt to leave a big ass fingerprint on the world.

 

[bagodking]

While Vince has lost his touch with reality and is expecting to just feed the masses with fodder which is stale and tasteless, one should also consider that the current period is not providing wrestlers with the same level of charisma as the past provided, while back in the day i would tune in and see the Rock run his mouth or the Undertaker brood in his devilish silence i would feel compelled to watch, but today, even the best (Punk, Cena and co) just fail to keep me hooked, whatever be the angle or feud, they just are not compelling and convincing enough for me to stick to watching them. Supposedly it could also be the problem of WWE being too scripted. But what i feel is that the performers do not have enough charisma and personality , perhaps some of the guys who do compel me to stay are Antonio Cesaro , Bryan, Kane , JBL on commentary , Miz, Shaemus but that's just it, i feel lack lustre and bland performers are the bane of the current predicament of wrestling,just an example, UFC is more about the real side of fighting than personality but look what Lesnar was able to do there, that man cannot talk yet he was responsible for the boom UFC needed not because of his fighting skills but what he did with his personality.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I don't see much problem in the middle; the non-main eventers seem to be rolling along pretty well, especially with the TV shows expanded to 6 hours of coverage a week. The difficulty comes at the top. When the company had mega-superstars like the Rock, Stone Cold, Hogan, Savage and a few others, we were watching people with legitimate charisma....the kind of guys whose exploits you looked forward to from week to week.

These people have to be replaced as time goes on. Today, we have John Cena at the top, and the reaction of a discouraging number of folks is that they "hate" him.....that he does the same old thing every time we see him (as if Rock & Stone Cold didn't) and these people can't wait until someone new rises to the top. It's hard to say how many fans have actually turned against Cena; hopefully most realize he's a legitimate mega-superstar, surely on the same level as Rock and SCSA.

Problem is, who goes to the top? I don't care for the people the company has chosen to be the new "main men." Dolph Ziggler? By exposure and opportunity alone, WWE has been pushing this guy like no one I've ever seen. They want him to be a main eventer in the worst way......and I just can't see it. He's a fine mid-card performer but if he's the best they've got, I worry for the future.

Same goes for Cody Rhodes, Antonio Cesaro and even Kofi Kingston. Are these guys the company sees as main event performers? If so, there are problems coming in the next few years. Again, it's not to say I don't like them, because I do.....but not at the top of the card.

Still, we understand WWE has to push someone to the summit, no? If there's no John Cena-type coming down the pike, the company has to force someone at us to convince us he's a top-notcher.....and therein lies the problem.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

None of the guys on the roster are "mainstream" or "larger than life" other than John Cena, CM Punk to a lesser extent, Miz (due to his appearances and his TV "fame") and The Undertaker. In WWE's heyday, The Rock, Austin, Trips, Undertaker, even Foley, were way over with the "casual" or "mainstream" audience. This made WWE "acceptable" and "cool" and that's what put these stars over the top and brought attention to WWE.

In looking at this roster, do you think you could go up to a random person let's say between 18-25, ask if they know who Daniel Bryan is, or Kofi Kingston, and they'd know? I'm talking a random person, not your friends or whatever.

THAT is the problem. WWE is reverting back to being a "clique" or "niche" form of entertainment. All of us loyal fans like it but that's it. Vince knows he has us no matter what. He's not trying (nor does he have to) do anything to blow our minds. When all the mainstream attention was on WWE, (and even when there was tougher competition like WCW) it forced creative to be creative.

He keeps bringing back the Rock and Brock Lesner, and Undertaker because this is what sells. This is what gets the casual fan or mainstream audience to check out the product.

 

[mikekinkade]

The number one problem facing the WWE is the current format is stale. There are no more casual wrestling fans that you can try to target who will watch this current format. These so called casual fans aren't the same casual fans that existed 10-15 years ago. Everybody is smart to the business on some level. Those that still watch consistently are the hardcore wrestling fans who are waiting for something to happen.

Sure, you will get rating spikes when the part-timers return. But this is more of the case of seeing what's left of these guys before they are gone forever. The Rock, Lesnar, SCSA, Taker aren't going to bring in the casual fans in the long-run. Nobody cares because in the long-run everything stays the same. Most wrestling fans (even casuals) can pretty much predict the possible outcomes of matches, story-lines, angles etc to some degree. Fans also know that it's pointless buying into new talent because the probability they will get buried is still so high. Yes, we still see kids in the audience, but these new fans get sick of the product much faster as they get older.

The WWE needs to use a few of there smaller shows to start experimenting with new ideas. New ways of approaching wrestling matches would be a good start. I also hope they realize that edgier content isn't the answer as a single solution.

 

[teampunk]

wwe sucks because it corporate and watered down. they are so scared of hurting anyones feeling anywhere at anytime that no one does anything. the attitude era was like star wars when han shot first. the pg era is the redo where greedo shot first. vince, triple h, and the board might as well as sell their balls on ebay, because they no longer need them.

 

[bagodking]

I did not say i dislike Cena or most of the wrestlers for that matter, problem is i no longer feel drawn to watch their matches, hence i mentioned the few that i did whom i do watch and follow (Would like Titus o Neil to be pushed though, man has charisma)

Corporate and having cut down on violent & or vulgar content does not mean the product has to be bad, its just that the current roster does not have the personality to pull off anything audacious, imagine a Ziggler pulling off what Stone Cold did with Vince, or Kofi Kingston doing the early Mysterio feud with JBL , these guys just dont pull you, take any of your old feuds story lines, i mean the legendary ones maintain the same approach as raw has now and put the current stars in them, they will suddenly turn into garbage like someone performed alchemy on them

 

[midgensa]

Mustang Sally said it pretty well here.

There simply is no John Cena in the pipeline. WWE has to feel pretty good about Punk and Bryan, but even those guys are not the type of guy they like to pin the company on and I do not know that they feel safe doing so.

So, in the end it is a waiting game for them right now. They are pushing people like Ryback, Ziggler, Kofi, etc. and I think hoping that one of them can catch on a be a mega star ... otherwise they know they don't have much main event drawing power outside of Cena, Orton and Punk.

It is interesting to watch, but because Vince is so schizophrenic we end up with an entire rotation of different people being pushed instead of getting behind one guy.

 

[theBec2101]

I honestly don’t think Vince cares. I mean people are going to give there negative opinions but at the end of the day they watch the show so they are able to talk their trash. So since they watch the rating are still decent no matter what product is out whether it’s bad or good we are still watching. He could care less about are thoughts and opinions afterwards. If you wanted him to do something different or bring back something try to boycott them and not watch the product as a whole. Until then why should he care you have watch it first to give your negative comments? Honestly it’s not that bad though.

 

[Pedigree1]

Seems like Mustang Sally and myself agree alot on these boards and this is no different. The product is fine right now! Cena Punk are your top dogs. I legitimately respect the hell out of Cena! I dont hate him at all and i dont get the hate for him at all. Never understood that one at all. I think alot of it has to do with the fact the haters feel he does the same stuff week in and week out.

As if da rock and SCSA didnt do the same thing week in and week out or hell dare i say Hogan? As far as the mid carders grooming to be the top dog i think it should be Barrett! Barrett has all the tools but this is not the discussion! Ziggler ehhh hes fine as a mid carder give him a short title reign and id be happy! Cody Rhodes? Same as Ziggles! But the product is not bad at all they just need more guys to eventually take over the top spot when Cena leaves

 

[Menski]

You're right, production is fine, the have a good roster with lots of potential, and PG wrestliing can still be edgy. Therefore, the problem is down to writing and booking. The constant rewriting of Raws is making a mess of it. There's no long term storylines which simply means there's no build and no emotional investment. No one cares about what's happening. Personally, all I watch for is the WWE title picture, Hell No and The Shield are looking decent. Even with these though I'm not desperate to watch next week. Shows like Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead etc keep you hooked because they think out the series. WWE is thinking of endings and jumping straight to them. You need to pad things out with events and twists or whatever to engage the audience. To summarise: no longevity in storyline planning = apathy amongst fans.