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No matter how far WWE goes to "hell in a handbasket" they are not going anywhere, WWE will be around until Vince does not want it around.

I believe Vince has been distancing himself a bit from creative: let them do stuff on their own, then let them come up (and shooting down everything at the last minute because it's not that good, in which he is right). And I think he learned two things: that's not a very good management style and he'd better not die/get sick in the near future, because there seems to be no-one else capable of steering his company.
 
Three hour Raw format it's simple obviously die hard fans could sit through nearly an hour of adverts throughout the show but a few fair few will just DVR it. Also with Raw not being on the edge of your seat type stuff no real cliffhangers that gives people more of a reason not to watch it live, what are they really going to miss. I think Americans refer it as water cooler moments, WWE lacks that now.

That's just my opinion though.
 
You can blame the lack of rating on several major things.

1)The lackluster product at the moment. Nothing really goes on that keeps you invested and has you anxiously waiting for the show each week. And I do feel this blame goes to both Vince and the writers. They cant make their minds on the direction they want the product to go and the products suffers for it. Also, based on their indecisions, every other story seems to contradict a story that just recently happened. Finally, the lack of true stars on the roster so every week/month you know whats probably going to happen next and you know its probably going to involve Cena and Punk.

2)There are tones of different ways to watch these shows without watching them live. A lot of people stream online or just record it and watch it at their own pace. There really isnt a need to watch the three hour show live.

3)And as stated above, the variety of what there is on TV. WWE just cant compete with Monday Night football or some of the other shows that come on Monday nights.

And on one final note the predictability. We pretty much know what we will happen each and every week. And when there is a interesting, unpredictable story, the rating usually go up.
 
A mixture of things:

Writers:
Not coming up with new groundbreaking material that grips fan more and even bring new ones into watching.

Wrestlers:
Where are the next stone colds? The next Rocks? Undertakers? No one really sets them out from the pack anymore, there all quite regular, no one has that star factor. The next best thing is cena and punk, without those two the company would flop, sheamus, del rio, miz, ziggles etc are just not BIG enough stars to carry the company at all

Sign of the times:
Its 2012 people want to see new stuff, not the same storylines repeating, its a different world and enviroment since the industry dominated during the attitude era. The fanbase has evolved and so should the product. But it hasnt. With times like these and the compeition on the table WWE needs to grasp new fans and keep them hooked. But they cannot. They need to look at their whole setup in place. And give the people what they want. Not what Vince Mcmahon wants.
 
I'm going to blame the marketing department and for one simple reason: "watch wrestling IS NOT cool". That idea, generated in the last few years, killed a lot of momentum the business still had. In today's wrestling industry I can still find two good rivalries or so, I mean that whole dynamic with John Cena, CM Punk and Ryback is interesting, involving the referee and the AJ Scandal in the perspective of a fan it's good TV, it's somehow new and fresh and controversial, I mean AJ did change rooms so she has an affair with someone, it's good to try and guess who for instance.

The Attitude Era, specially 1998 you didn't have good storylines. I mean Shawn Michaels vs Steve Austin, was nothing more than a plot that a celebrity showed that he had aligned with the heel, only to help the babyface, simple and generic. But what did people thought about the wrestling business as a whole? There is a huge difference in people's mentality nowadays when compared to the fans now called "die-hard fans".

Marketing is actually me line of work and WWE's Marketing is good for the fans they already have, but not to get new fans. They are already a worldwide brand, but the american market is their target in terms of ratings, so when you have a program with 2.8 rating that is actually a bad thing, it means that only 2.8% of families with TV are actually tuning into the show, that means that 97.2% are either off or in any other show.

I said it more then once, but I believe WWE needs to work with other sports as well to get the attention they once had. If WWE and UFC made an arrangement we could possibly have a match between someone like Jon Jones and CM Punk, that would bring UFC the WWE's exposure and vice-versa. People want to watch WWE, just look at Raw 1000 rating, they only want more hype and more exposure. I think that losing the competition was also a pretty bad move for the WWE, so the best thing for the wrestling market is to expect that someday TNA will actually move into a good and bigger channel and get more exposure to be a decent rivalry to the WWE.
 
Weren't IWC the people who said that Punk's getting bland and he needs to turn heel.He's turned and people still hate him.The matches are better than 2010 except a few exceptions('Taker/HBK etc).If Punk main-evented,Would he draw huge numbers at every PPV?WWE is still building up Punk;How many people who don't follow wrestling know who Punk even is?Even Cena did not Main event every PPV;He only main-evented when he had credible opponents like Kurt Angle to carry him.But I do admit that WWE should do more effort in marketing Punk;He's virtually a nobody outside the wrestling world;Put him on PPV Posters,Commercials,Movies.Get a bit of hype.People crave over the Attitude Era;go watch 1999 again;People only watched WWF because WCW was MUCH more worse.Maybe the rating's down because of Hurricane Sandy,Monday Night Football.Most people don't even have Neislen boxes;They just stream it illegally.Internet has ruined wrestling.Maybe Vince is not worried about ratings as he realises that most people are watching it online.
 
For the people who blame Monday Night Football and all that shit, you do realize that WWE and WCW were beating Monday Night Football in the ratings during the attitude era, right? They were THE thing on Mondays. Period. Stick your excuses up your ass.

For the marketing expert over there - that's a big sack of bullshit. Do you honestly think WWE can benefit from being exposed to UFC fans? You think that will automatically make it "cool"? Bullshit. UFC fans watch UFC because it's real. If they wanted to watch wrestling - they would. They all know how to find it.

You juxtapose a real UFC fighter who could probably kill someone with his bare hands and a FAKE, cheesy, WWE wrestler like a Dolph Ziggler or CM Punk and you immediately showcase JUST how fake wrestling is.

What? A match between a UFC fighter and a wrestlers? If the match is "real" then this exposes how little wrestlers know about fighting. If the match is fake then that UFC fighter becomes damaged goods for UFC fans. He goes from straight jabs to dropkicks? You kidding me?

The only one to make that transition is Lesnar. He went to UFC, he was the fake wrestler and he kicked a lot of ass - he proved himself. Can Punk do that? Hell no. Punk's a bitch.

You're forgetting that WWE got BROCK LESNAR on their roster, straight from UFC. He came in, he was brutal, he was badass and it did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the rating or WWE's cool factor.

No, it's not marketing. It's just the product. Once your product is cool, it markets itself. You can't market shitty, cheesy, corny RAW as something that it isn't. What's cool these days is not being a good person with great moral values. What's cool today is what was cool 10-20 years ago. Being a badass. Badasses happen to be violent and aggressive, just like the Attitude Era was.

Like it or not, we need that back. Not THE SAME, just the idea behind it.

P.S: Yes, WWE competes with 200 other shows on TV. Meanwhile those other shows compete with eachother and a few of them are on top DESPITE that. Why? Because it's good fucking television. WWE is not. It fucking sucks.
 
Weren't IWC the people who said that Punk's getting bland and he needs to turn heel.
The IWC is made of a lot of different people. Somebody probably said that, not everybody.
He's turned and people still hate him.The matches are better than 2010 except a few exceptions('Taker/HBK etc). If Punk main-evented,Would he draw huge numbers at every PPV?WWE is still building up Punk;How many people who don't follow wrestling know who Punk even is?
Your match quality statement is pure opinion. IMO each year for the past 5 years has seen matches / feuds started with less and less build up than in the year prior. Match quality isn't going to make people interested if there isn't a well written feud with it (imo) .Every match & feud feels like they just threw it together right before the show came on, and it feels like a repeat of something we've seen 100 times before (SmackDown is especially guilty of this)

Even Cena did not Main event every PPV;He only main-evented when he had credible opponents like Kurt Angle to carry him.But I do admit that WWE should do more effort in marketing Punk;He's virtually a nobody outside the wrestling world;Put him on PPV Posters,Commercials,Movies.Get a bit of hype.
I think you are completely and 100% right about this

People crave over the Attitude Era;go watch 1999 again;People only watched WWF because WCW was MUCH more worse.Maybe the rating's down because of Hurricane Sandy,Monday Night Football.Most people don't even have Neislen boxes;They just stream it illegally.Internet has ruined wrestling.Maybe Vince is not worried about ratings as he realises that most people are watching it online.

Nobody would use an illegal live stream if they have access to the live show at the normal time (I guess unless they were desperate for a chatroom they might). People using streams would be people who don't have access to a working TV or people outside of USA who don't get to watch RAW until much later and don't want to wait that long. Illegal streams are not the problem imo

The problem is DVR & People watching the show online at a later time via YouTube/DailyMotion/Whatever. Basically the people who don't watch the show live. They are the ones losing interest & don't think its a big deal if they wait a day or two or six before they watch the last episode of RAW. And the only way to bring them back is to actually improve the quality of the show. I just don't want to watch something that it feels like nobody is putting any effort into writing/booking. It's like they can have only one big storyline at a time and everybody else is just floating around and showing up once in a while for a match.

I do think the ratings system is outdated and was never accurate enough to begin with. But I do think the poor ratings of late are deserved, and not because of Sandy or MNF, but because the show is lifeless
 
My interest in wrestling is fading so much, I have been starting to limit my weekly WWE television watching. What I mean by that, is that I'll still watch Raw, just to see if any big angle is going to happen. Smackdown just pretty much blows now, the show's been going downhill since Undertaker and Edge left the picture. And I barely care what TNA are doing these days.

I think what can change WWE to a certain extent is that if more fans started putting their attention towards shows like NXT and Superstars. They are the best alternative quality WWE shows you can have. If fans can demand it to come back to television and give them the ratings they deserve, WWE will probably realize that we've grown tired of the same stale shit they've been feeding us and that we can probably see some good story lines, good wrestling and different people in the main event scene once in awhile.

Although, I know it's inevitable to happen. Since Raw and Smackdown are mainstream attraction, it's like trying to hope for Hip Hop fans to turn away from garbage music like Lil Wayne, Drake, Rick Ross etc instead of giving attention to real Hip Hop artists that are Underground.
 
Ever since I have been about 14, I have been coming online to read up on WWE and wrestling in general since I live in England and didn't have Sky TV at the time, so I would come on websites like this to see what is happening and keep up with it.

The one thing I have noticed is, ever since I have been apart of the "IWC" so to speak, all I ever see is negativity. Mark Madden being a prime example. Every article I've ever read of his basically says WWE will be out of business soon.

The people on forums and on comment sections are no better "Raw sucked last night", "Why isn't Ryder being pushed everyone loves him, WWE doesn't see talent when it hits them in the face" to "Why the fuck are they pushing that Jersey Shore wannabe with no talent and he's a douche".

It seems that fans are NEVER happy. They got what they wanted with Punk being champion. Then they got what they wanted with Heyman aligning himself with Punk but it's still not "good enough". The WWE are doing just as good as they ever have done really, Wrestlemania is a lot bigger than ever and they just need the ratings to go back up a bit.

So why all this criticism of the WWE, and even TNA? Is it because the people who complain are like a prime example of what "Are You Serious?" class wrestling fans as, sad lonely individuals who live in their mother's basement?
 
For me, the WWE is doing some good things right now. Kane/Bryan, Punk/Heyman, Ryback, Damien Sandow and Rey/Sin Cara. However, when you sum up the promotion in its entirety, its still awful. I came into the WWE in 2002 , a time when the WWE was focused on wrestling matches as the company's drawing point. If they would return to that format, then the product would be better. Sadly, that isn't happening anytime soon. The WWE, despite occasional bits of inspiration, just won't abandon their methodology, no matter how outdated and lifeless it has become. I hope they change their ways in time to keep the fanbase interested.
 
The fans are never happy that is true. The IWC as a whole will never be satisfied, it wouldn't matter if reality warped and the greatest stars of all generations appeared in their prime and the business boomed again, they would still complain.

The main problem these days is after the post mania ppv (extreme rules) until the start of the next year and even if they have a strong July-August (09-11) they give up afterwards and just try to ride on what they were doing during the middle of the year and expect it to last until December without putting any effort into the product. For some reason the writers seem to just give up after Summerslam and what we get is four months of nothing as no one seems to care unless its Mania season.
 
No matter what WWE or TNA do, fans will always complain. I don't really agree with much that Mark Madden says because he just hates everything.

I started watching wrestling in the late 90s and compared to nowadays, the product is awful. Now, I am not someone that say "bring back the attitude era" because, lets face it, you can't recreate those times. And, I'm not one to say "end PG." Those aren't the problems. The issues are the writing is bad. I always read about that the WWE is constantly rewriting the scripts for RAW, and that just doesn't help.

WWE has some good things going for them. Like already said, Kane/Bryan, Ryback and Punk/Heyman.

Is WWE really that bad? No, but it's far from great.
 
If anything WWE is worse than anyone gives it credit for, if you compare RAW and Smackdown to even the worst shows on TV from major stations, it is right in the bottom. Even absolute garbage like Jersey Shore was more entertaining than WWE.

There are too many apologists these days, its been so long since wrestling in america has been good that some have actually accepted what is given to them. But most do not even know, they grew up with this and for them it seems fine

Lets make it very simple, after WM17 and after WWE bought out WCW and did the invasion angle, the company has created bad tv, with a few glimpses of quality here and there (HBK vs Jericho, Orton heel vs Hunter)
 
I’ve been resenting the WWE for a while now, even after going to a live show the other week I found myself very disappointed.

I’ve been watching non stop for 12 years since the Royal Rumble 2000, In all seriousness, a lot of the best times in my life since then have been thanks to the WWE. If I had never got in to it I have no doubt my entire life would be totally different right now.

However, over the past year (and on occasions before that) I feel I am watching Raw and Smackdown out of habit. It’s been such a part of my weekly routine for so many years that it’s almost like a drug that I can’t get off.

Before anyone suggests the obvious: Yes, I do also watch TNA and RoH and have an open mind to any wrestling company out there – I am not just a closed off, eyes shut, WWE fan..

The thing with the WWE though, is that it’s the place I have always felt most at home with as a fan. It is indeed the holy ground of professional wrestling in my opinion.

I’ve tried taking breaks from it before, but my friends watch it and so hanging out at there places they’ve always got it on anyways, and I’m not exactly going to start cutting friends out of my life..

I also feel like I might be missing something great if I miss a Raw, and in my opinion simply reading the results every week totally sucks the life out of what it was once meant to me to be a Wrestling fan…I’m loving The Walking Dead right now but you wouldn’t catch me just reading what happened instead of watching it.

Maybe I’m in denial? I was 12 when I started watching, now I’m 25 and the landscape of WWE is so vastly different now, it’s like a different company.

I’m not blaming PG, I’m not blaming the Roster, I’m not even blaming the writers or the 3 hour Raws. But me forcing myself to watch is what sucks the life out of it.

There are certain aspects I still enjoy from WWE, CM Punks title reign being one of them. But it’s not enough to make me look forward to every single Raw like I once did.

I wonder what another 12 years will do to the WWE?

Anyway, thanks for reading, probably going to get some hate from this post, but is any one in the same boat?
 
It's not because you grew up, trust me. Bad TV is bad TV at any age. I'm actually pretty sure that less kids are watching it now than they were during its heyday. It's not all kids, it's just for kids, for the most part.

But age is irrelevant. I'm sure we can all enjoy some shows out there that are specifically FOR kids. RAW? It's just bad. It's not the PG rating's fault, it's not Linda's fault, it's not their target demographic's fault - it's their fucking fault. All you need is good writing, good matches and consistency. The rest we don't care about - those are the things that pertain to the on-screen product. WWE doesn't have it right now and hasn't for a long, long time.

So no, you're not the only one coming off the drug. Have you seen their ratings? With every passing month all those people who watch out of habit and out of loyalty are slowly dropping like flies, realizing there's really no point in wasting their time. I did it 3 years ago, you're doing it now, someone's gonna do it tomorrow.

WWE sucks.
 
I feel the exact same way. Aside from CM Punk, John Cena, and Team Hell No- I have no interest in the product. The younger wrestlers all suck. Their characters suck, their moves suck, etc. I'll see what happens at the very beginning to get the main event and if it's not cool I just won't watch. I do agree it feels more routine now as opposed to saying "WRESTLINGS ON YES". I feel the same about TNA as well. The only time I really want to watch wrestling these days is when I see a new video on Netflix or a new dvd that peaks my interest. I don't watch ROH or the indy stuff because I don't get it through my cable service and Youtube has too much I wouldn't know where to start.
 
I moved from the US to Thailand earlier this year and I don't get any wrestling on TV, but I read up on RAW, Smackdown and TNA. I will watch one of those shows occasionally if what I read sounded great but that is rarely the case; most often I just watch a match or a segment. However, I do watch RoH and NXT every single week. Both of those shows have good consistent logical stories and great Wrestling.

If you haven't watched NXT, I would strongly recommend starting from the beginning of the current incarnation. They are pretty easy to find streaming online.
 
Hmmm... 12 seems to be the magic number, I started watching weekly starting from their. My first proper match was probably Undertaker vs. Mr. McMahon in a Buried Alive match, so I did really enjoy much before that, including bad ass 'Taker (who looked badass)... I'm 20 now and I feel like I'm in the same boat as you. I'm seriously doubting the WWE's consistency, although I dare not watch.

For about a year or two I stopped watching, it was around 2005 maybe? I stopped right in the middle of JBL's title reign and picked up again near the end of Cena's first reign I think... But there have been some good moments and some good ideas in recent memory though.

I loved the concept of NXT, I know not many people did, but I did. 8 fresh young faces ready for the big leagues competing for their spot, sounds like a great idea, the first two seasons, were absolutely perfect 10-12 weeks long, it all came down to one winner and they earned their place (if even one of the winning pros was Laycool). But of course, they completely f***ed this us starting with season 3, no one wanted to see divas, they're crap, there's a recent why people call their matches 'bathroom breaks'.

Season 4 was complete lack and the winner didn't even move onto to Raw or Smackdown, was that the damn point!? Didn't get his tag team title match either, he might as well have not won at all. And the less said about season 5, the better. Redemption? Instead, how about the caption "WWE's Biggest Writing Block Ever!" The PTP were stuck in purgatory for crying out loud!

Same goes for the Nexus, loved them, thought it was great, a huge step in the WWE. It especially appealed because it was led by an Englishman and I'm here in England, so it was great to see one of out own jump to the main event. But like all good things in the WWE, there was a way to make is fade into obscurity... Each member slowly losing their place and some genius' idea to have Wade leave the group making it so the only surviving member was Otunga for crying out loud! Wade did his best with the Corre, but sadly, this half-baked solution didn't work out well. And you can blame this all on the lamest writing you ever did see...

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I was also wondering about your post, that you should be a little specific of what you don't like now, this is what I didn't like about this weeks: Open show, match with Orton and Ziggler, great beginning, pretty good match... And no, I'm not one of those Ziggler fanboys which are so damn common around here (being able to sell moves sensationally isn't that impressive for me). Anyway, should have had a simple 1 on 1 and when Orton inevitably wins, have Del Rio come out but be too intimidated to go in the ring with Orton standing there waiting for him... It's textbook, simple. But nope, we have to have Del Rio and Ziggler double team him as Kofi (for some reason) comes to the rescue, momentarily forgetting the face that Orton held him a few years ago...

Aaaand here comes T'Lo's music... Surprise surprise, Teddy announces a TAG TEAM MATCH and here's me thinking without him as GM any more this annoying crap won't happen. Anyway, moving on. Later on I come to the Vickie segment, which I seriously had to fast forward (I seriously don't get why people love her so much, they waste so much time on her, they could have a match!) with some cock and bull 'scandal'. I'm hating this storyline so much, just f***ing end it already, it's treating everyone like idiots. I'm also so sick of Vickie being a GM, her shrill voice is on every F***ING show, I cannot get a break! I also can't STAND AJ, again someone who people love but I don't... Her music is so tired and repetitive, not to mention her voice, which has no character and sounds like she's trying to force out a deeper tone (seriously, what the hell is that?). So I fast-forwarded all of that...

And I fast-forward, then I fast-forward... And I fast-forward some more (MY GOD, how much non-wrestling can they jam in this week, another slot of time, wasted). :banghead:

To be honest I did like the 'Fandango' segments and I can't wait for Curtis to finally come to Raw, I don't care if it's a crap gimmick, it looks pretty funny. I hope it doesn't get old REALLY fast, like the Funkasaurus and his sensationally long entrances which culminates with a fat guy making his way to the ring as slowly as possible trying desperately to dance. Surely by now they can cut out all this crap, it was fine on his debut, but surely he can settle down now into a sort of 'cool guy' who wears funky clothes and has a catchy 80's theme, that's all you need now. I don't even mind Cameron and Naomi still joining him, but you can feel free to develop them a little more then just rubbing their asses together. You can have backstage segments where they express that they're worried about Clay sometimes and stuff, rather then just... "WOOOOO!!!"

Anyway, all of this night comes to a great big f***ing brick wall when they have Paul Heyman pretend to be having a heart attack, purely to mock King. And don't give me any of that s*** that they asked him and he was okay and that controversy is good... There's a difference between creating controversy and being a s*** writer who's being an a**hole. Seriously, there's lines you DON'T cross. If an actor on a soap had a drug problem, you wouldn't decide to just write that into the script! It's just pure laziness by creative because they can't think of anything good or relevant. And you STILL can't tell me it's good TV, because having a middle-aged bald guy pretending to have a heart attack is not why I turn on the TV onto WWE.

Am I done yet? Hell no! Let's talk main event, Punk vs. Cena... Of course Cena rises out the belly of the underdog (yet again) to beat Punk in about 2 minutes. The same guy who couldn't beat Punk and had some sort of build to that fact just blows him about in about 2 minutes without so much as breaking a sweat. Way to make your year long champion look like an idiot WWE, bravo. A year ago Punk was on his way to forcing his way into the WWE's face, telling it how it is! Funny... Reminds me a little of the Nexus, you know why? BECAUSE IT ALL BENEFITS CENA!!! Cena picked about the Nexus and I can pretty much garentee that Cena will win on Sunday because he's SUCH an underdog and SOOOO inspirational. Of course they're gonna screw Punk out of the title the day before hitting one year, why wouldn't they? Instead, let's have Cena hold the title for 2 months then drop it like a hot potato and start this s*** all over again, with Cena being in the main event for WreslteMania, YET AGAIN CHALLENGING FOR THE TITLE!

This is the first time in Punk's reign that I am 100% certain he WILL LOSE. Just look at the end of Raw, Cena and Ryback, both holding the title looking like warriors, as Punk is looking in from the sidelines like a huge bitch.

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Anyway I've been venting way too much in this post and I apologise for that, but this is just the tip of the ice-burg for me. There's so much more craptacular stuff in the WWE which I won't go into. But you can surely understand why I'm pissed off, being a guy who brought a 'best in the world' t-shirt and really wanted a Nexus one, but they broke up before I could even attempt to buy one. This company used to have a motto "Entertainment'... Now it's just 'Feed Vince's Cena Stiffy'...

(I haven't proof read this long piece of s***, so sorry if I've made some mistakes...)
 
Last month at Hell In a Cell someone posted on Wrestlezone that Vince McMahon was really high on Ryback winning the Wwe Championship and then dropping it back to punk before the rumble, then last night I looked on Wrestlezone and again it said that McMahon wanted Ryback to win the title, but it never happened.

So My question why if McMahon is the Chairman of WWE why cant he just say look I want Ryback to win this is my company so deal with it.
 
Vince Mcmahon is known for changing his mind more times than i have had hot dinners. Just because one minute he is thinking that Ryback should be the WWE champion the next minute he probably is thinking that CM Punk should hold the title till mania.

It's not that the Wrestlezone reports are untrue or not accurate it's just that Vince changes his mind every 2 minutes.

Hell i would'nt be surprised if the ending of the match was not finalized 100% until just before the match started.
 
I can help you understand, seeing as I'm someone who actually owns his own business.

First and foremost, what you see on the front page of this site bears no relation to the truth, whatsoever. All you see there are words which are designed to get you to click a link and view advertising.

Now then, just because you own a business, does not mean you get to make whatever decisions you would like. You are running a business, not playing God. You don't make decisions just because you want to; you make a decision because it maximizes the opportunities for future growth in the company. People who run their businesses like gods quickly find out that market forces are a far stronger God than they are.

Running a business isn't getting to do whatever you want. It's figuring out what your customers want, and the tricky thing about professional wrestling is that your customers often have no idea what they actually want.
 
I can help you understand, seeing as I'm someone who actually owns his own business.

First and foremost, what you see on the front page of this site bears no relation to the truth, whatsoever. All you see there are words which are designed to get you to click a link and view advertising.

Now then, just because you own a business, does not mean you get to make whatever decisions you would like. You are running a business, not playing God. You don't make decisions just because you want to; you make a decision because it maximizes the opportunities for future growth in the company. People who run their businesses like gods quickly find out that market forces are a far stronger God than they are.

Running a business isn't getting to do whatever you want. It's figuring out what your customers want, and the tricky thing about professional wrestling is that your customers often have no idea what they actually want.

Many business owners do what they want and some are successful and some are not. Vince is one of those who are successful. Do people really think Vince cares what people want, hope not. Here's an example putting the same matches together over and over, or a customer paying 55 dollars for a PPV only to see matches constantly ending in DQ. I could go on and on. But Ryback not winning the title in my mind is simple, and that's because Vince doesn't want Ryback "fed" to The Rock.
 
Many business owners do what they want and some are successful and some are not. Vince is one of those who are successful. Do people really think Vince cares what people want, hope not. Here's an example putting the same matches together over and over, or a customer paying 55 dollars for a PPV only to see matches constantly ending in DQ. I could go on and on. But Ryback not winning the title in my mind is simple, and that's because Vince doesn't want Ryback "fed" to The Rock.
And why might Vince not 'want' that? Because he has some vicious personal whim about running a fantasy professional wrestling organization? Or he thinks that he'd make more money with Ryback if he were developed over the course of a few years, as opposed to a two-month 'Zeus' style appearance?

It could actually be a business decision, instead of the evil whims of a character you've seen on TV?

Vince is creating television. He's in the business of caring what people want. He's been selling people what they want for over forty years. The difference is that he's thinking months ahead, while most fans are thinking about what they want to see tomorrow.
 
Anyone else notice how little of a reaction Ryback got at Survivor Series?? Even re-watching HIAC the crowed was dead through out the match until he got them chanting FEED ME MORE close to the end. Then After the match he tried again and the crowed was flat again.

This is the man that some people were saying Punk should drop the title to??

Seems like the WWE Universe have come out of their coma and are saying..."wait why is he in the main event?"

This is usually what happens when you push someone too quickly.

Am I alone in thinking this? Am i showing an unfavourable bias against Ryback? I don't know but i would like to know what you guys think.:shrug:
 

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