WWE General Complaints Thread

[SuperSteve16]

Well because the guys you mentioned dont really draw a dime. Evan Bourne is great in the ring but his size can only take him so far. I saw your sig, and no, hes not going to be winning any major title, maybe the US or tag but thats about it. Hes also never been on the mic, and mic skills are a major part of a champion. McIntyre has nothing special to offer. Hes a one trick pony. They had the whole "Chosen One" gimmick and he really did nothing with it. I dont see him as a big star, to me hes just not marketable.

Mason Ryan is a physical specimen. His size makes up for anything else that he lacks in. You have to admit, if you have Mason and McIntyre knocking at your door and you need a guy whos marketable from a wrestling standpoint you're going to pick tan Hulk over the guy with the funny accent. I'm going to put it real surreal for the people who have whined for McIntyre, Bourne, Ryder, and Daniel Bryan (up until Sunday): you have to be marketable to make it in WWE! WWE is entertainment first, wrestling later. If you're relying on your wrestling to carry your career go to ROH, or Japan, or apparently TNA.

Yes the WWE entertainment first. But Mason Ryan is not entertaining. Yes he has the look, but he is not a good wrestler and is terrible on the microphone. The WWE is about entertaining, but I dont think the fans have been entertained in any of his matches or anythiing he has done on the mic. Evan Bourne does need time on the microphone, but the fact that he hasn't won any title in the WWE is a shame. He is one of the best wrestlers and he is ENTERTAINING when he is wrestling. If you dont think McIntyre is marketable, watch the smackdown elimination chamber this year. He was the best wrestler in that match and the fans really got behind him. If the WWE gave these guys a chance to prove themsleves, in Drews case, a chance to become creditable heel, they could be draws

 

[ScruffDog]

I didn't know were to put this, and I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but I just wanted to complain about something stupid.

So the other day I heard that CM Punk was the Fourteenth Triple Crown winner in the WWE. Out of curiosity I wanted to see who else was a Triple Crown winner, and I see Dolph Ziggler. I had forgot he was the champ, but then I remembered how he got it. He was given the belt by Vicky who striped it from Edge. Almost immediately after we was announced the Champ Edge won it back. I don't think Zigglers first title reign should count.

If Dibiase buying the title from Andre dosn't count twards him having a title reign, then Dolph's girlfend giving him the belt shouldn't count either.

Also I don't like how Edge getting it back from Dolph counts as another title reign, that one of the main reasons he, and Cena, are a 11 time champ, the title changes hands to often. But this is an argument for another time.

I just feel, if Dolph can be considered a former Heavyweight champ, receiving the belt under the circumstance he got it; then Dibiase should be considered a former champ too.

 

[H33LTurn]

Yes the WWE entertainment first. But Mason Ryan is not entertaining. Yes he has the look, but he is not a good wrestler and is terrible on the microphone. The WWE is about entertaining, but I dont think the fans have been entertained in any of his matches or anythiing he has done on the mic. Evan Bourne does need time on the microphone, but the fact that he hasn't won any title in the WWE is a shame. He is one of the best wrestlers and he is ENTERTAINING when he is wrestling. If you dont think McIntyre is marketable, watch the smackdown elimination chamber this year. He was the best wrestler in that match and the fans really got behind him. If the WWE gave these guys a chance to prove themsleves, in Drews case, a chance to become creditable heel, they could be draws

Drew's had his shot at being a major heel, and it hardly moved the fans. Nobody seems to take him seriously anymore, not even the WWE, and with good reason. Bourne is entertaining in the ring, but that about it.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Yes the WWE entertainment first. But Mason Ryan is not entertaining. Yes he has the look, but he is not a good wrestler and is terrible on the microphone. The WWE is about entertaining, but I dont think the fans have been entertained in any of his matches or anythiing he has done on the mic. Evan Bourne does need time on the microphone, but the fact that he hasn't won any title in the WWE is a shame. He is one of the best wrestlers and he is ENTERTAINING when he is wrestling. If you dont think McIntyre is marketable, watch the smackdown elimination chamber this year. He was the best wrestler in that match and the fans really got behind him. If the WWE gave these guys a chance to prove themsleves, in Drews case, a chance to become creditable heel, they could be draws

Why does he deserve to win a title? I think being in matches regularly is good enough. He's very small and the WWE audience is that much like most people in that if you're smaller, it's harder for you to have credibility.

If Drew was so good, he'd be more over. WWE pushed him, WWE called him the chosen one or something and he STILL didn't get over. That's his own fault. You can't blame WWE for pushing a guy, him not getting over enough, and then they stop pushing him. WWE doesn't have a magic button to get guys over. They try and try and try and if you stick they keep going with you.

Bourne is starting to get over more and he may win a title if he gets over enough. Cool moves don't make you the best in the ring. Jack Evans does a ton of cool moves but he wouldn't get over for shit in the WWE even if they pushed him to the moon.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Yes the WWE entertainment first. But Mason Ryan is not entertaining. Yes he has the look, but he is not a good wrestler and is terrible on the microphone. The WWE is about entertaining, but I dont think the fans have been entertained in any of his matches or anythiing he has done on the mic. Evan Bourne does need time on the microphone, but the fact that he hasn't won any title in the WWE is a shame. He is one of the best wrestlers and he is ENTERTAINING when he is wrestling. If you dont think McIntyre is marketable, watch the smackdown elimination chamber this year. He was the best wrestler in that match and the fans really got behind him. If the WWE gave these guys a chance to prove themsleves, in Drews case, a chance to become creditable heel, they could be draws

Why does he deserve to win a title? I think being in matches regularly is good enough. He's very small and the WWE audience is that much like most people in that if you're smaller, it's harder for you to have credibility.

If Drew was so good, he'd be more over. WWE pushed him, WWE called him the chosen one or something and he STILL didn't get over. That's his own fault. You can't blame WWE for pushing a guy, him not getting over enough, and then they stop pushing him. WWE doesn't have a magic button to get guys over. They try and try and try and if you stick they keep going with you.

Bourne is starting to get over more and he may win a title if he gets over enough. Cool moves don't make you the best in the ring. Jack Evans does a ton of cool moves but he wouldn't get over for shit in the WWE even if they pushed him to the moon.

 

[Shafer757]

I didn't know were to put this, and I didn't want to start a new thread for this, but I just wanted to complain about something stupid.

So the other day I heard that CM Punk was the Fourteenth Triple Crown winner in the WWE. Out of curiosity I wanted to see who else was a Triple Crown winner, and I see Dolph Ziggler. I had forgot he was the champ, but then I remembered how he got it. He was given the belt by Vicky who striped it from Edge. Almost immediately after we was announced the Champ Edge won it back. I don't think Zigglers first title reign should count.

If Dibiase buying the title from Andre dosn't count twards him having a title reign, then Dolph's girlfend giving him the belt shouldn't count either.

Also I don't like how Edge getting it back from Dolph counts as another title reign, that one of the main reasons he, and Cena, are a 11 time champ, the title changes hands to often. But this is an argument for another time.

I just feel, if Dolph can be considered a former Heavyweight champ, receiving the belt under the circumstance he got it; then Dibiase should be considered a former champ too.

It's all a matter of how they handle the story line. In your world its okay if Dibiase was a champion and Ziggler never was. In WWE world, Ziggler is a champ. When they start using him in the main event again (which they will) it will make him look better by being able to say he's a former champ. How many people are really going to remember how short his reign was in the long run out of the couple million people that watch Raw?

 

[ScruffDog]

In your world its okay if Dibiase was a champion and Ziggler never was.

In my world? What the hell are you talking about? I even said in my last sentence,

I just feel, if Dolph can be considered a former Heavyweight champ, receiving the belt under the circumstance he got it; then Dibiase should be considered a former champ too.

I didn't say Dibiases should count and Zigglers shouldn't. I just think they should both either count, or not count.

When they start using him in the main event again (which they will) it will make him look better by being able to say he's a former champ.

Why? Why dose being a former champ "make him look better"? Ziggler is one of the most talented men on the roster right now; when he's in the main event picture, which I agree with you he will be one day, why dose being a former champ help him? Miz wasn't a former champ when he was in the main event picture, did it hurt him? Austin, HBK, Taker all were able to look awesome when they were fist put in the title picture, with out being former champs. Now why is that? IT BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD WRESTLERS! Ziggler is also a good wrestler, he will have a great main event run because he has the "IT" factor. Which brings me to you final statement.

How many people are really going to remember how short his reign was in the long run out of the couple million people that watch Raw?

I'm going to say a lot. The only way him being a former champ will be brought up in his main event story line, which if you were writing it they have to because it "will make him look better", will be because the face he is competing against will bring it up. Can't you see it? Cena making fun of Ziggler saying "You may be a former champ, but that only because that Hemorrhoid that's stuck to your ass stole it from Edge and gave it to you." See, now the couple million who watched Raw remember.

Now I understand it's all story line, hell everything is story line. I also understand that Ziggler will most likely one day be a champion, but I don't think his next title reign should be his "second title reign." If Dibiases can't cheat to become a champ, neither can Ziggler.

 

[#hamler]

1. Sheamus was in a feud with Christian and Orton, then in a feud with Barrett which wasn't properly ended, and now in a feud with Henry.

His so called feud with Orton and Christian was just a build up for Money in the Bank. Barrett, yes I do agree here but that helped him turn into a face.

2. Zack Ryder becoming assistant General Manager with no buildup whatsoever.

It's part of the whole we give the fans what they want era. CM Punk confronted Triple H at Comic Con demanding Ryder do something relevant.

3. Kane injured when there are very few faces on Smackdown.

Kane flops between heel and face from week to week. It was to sell the injuries and make Mark Henry look like a beast.

4. Ezekial Jackson's losing streak as IC champion

Agreed.

5. Christian being booked as a pussy.

Part of the storyline. He couldn't get pinned cleanly so he wanted another shot. Great heel work there.

6. Mark Henry probably going to squash Sheamus, leaving Randy Orton as the only main-event face.

That would kill all of Sheamus' momentum as a face. I don't think they'll do that.

7. Is Daniel Bryan in a feud with Michael Cole or Wade Barrett?

Neither. Daniel Bryan had a match with Wade Barrett - nothing more. And Cole is an annoying little cunt like always.

 

[Syborgg]

Neither. Daniel Bryan had a match with Wade Barrett - nothing more. And Cole is an annoying little cunt like always.

Accept that I believe they are headed into a fued between Barrett and D-Bryan for the MITB briefcase. Unless that segment on SD was all for nothing which I don't think it was.

As for Cole and Bryan, this will be, and has been, an on-going thing. We all know the history between Cole and Bryan stems from NXT season 1, and as long as Cole is playing the heel commentator, he will continue to berate D-Bryan.

 

[#hamler]

Accept that I believe they are headed into a fued between Barrett and D-Bryan for the MITB briefcase. Unless that segment on SD was all for nothing which I don't think it was.

As for Cole and Bryan, this will be, and has been, an on-going thing. We all know the history between Cole and Bryan stems from NXT season 1, and as long as Cole is playing the heel commentator, he will continue to berate D-Bryan.

Headed for a feud, very much so. But Daniel Bryan isn't currently feuding with Wade Barrett. The poster I was quoting was complaining about Smackdown's booking and asked if Daniel Bryan was in a feud with Wade Barrett or Michael Cole. I think by this he meant Michael Cole puts too much infasis on himself in a match which shouldn't happen. Cole needs to call the match, whether he's heel or not he shouldn't besmirch the talent as much as he does. I wouldn't say Daniel Bryan is feuding with anybody right now - doesn't mean the foundation isn't there for one.

 

[MelinaFanRules]

In my opinion the WWE have to create a wrestling product that dosent have to do with PG instead go back to the edgy wrestling that attracted more viewers then the PG product and I have to agree the women's division sucks because thiers a few female wrestlers that can wrestle who arent given the chance to showcase there talent enough and those who can not wrestle tack up to much tv time

 

[TheCrusher]

Sorry for the length. (Insert penis joke here.) I mean the length of the post:
There's a lot I like about the current WWE. The roster they have right now has some potential, and overall I'm satisfied with the in-ring work and the production values of the shows. What the shows seems to lack right now is personality, and I think that is due to WWE Creative having not quite figured out how to execute the PG stuff.
If you think back to the Attitude Era a lot of the best parts of the shows took place backstage, especially on RAW. Short comic bits or character building bits that let us get to know the characters made the matches way more interesting. Many of these were off-color, but an awful lot of them really weren't--or at least would have still been funny even if they were cleaned up a little. But the current creative team seems to have abandoned these, and I think the main reason is because they don't know how to get them over in a PG style.
So, these bits have been replaced almost exclusively by LONG segments of someone talking in the ring. Sometimes, these guys just aren't great performers and have difficulty working the crowd. So, put them in a stronger position by making a bit out of it. Example: R-Truth's crazy character is kind of entertaining. But how are they taking advantage of it? Where is John Morrison hiding spiders in Truth's locker? Where is Miz using Truth's belief in conspiracies to manipulate him into attacking Rey and taking him out? These bits would take no longer than the interview and are far more entertaining. They are also PG.
I would sure as hell rather Miz played a scene that expressed his frustration than have him stand in the middle of the ring and TALK about it. Del Rio and Ricardo are practically begging to be messed with, but it doesn't happen.
I have worked a lot of improv comedy, and I know it is much easier to work a "blue" show than a family friendly one. But there are plenty of writers out there who could create bits for these characters that are short and PG-friendly and take no more time than the interviews do.

 

[Slowdude]

Did they really have to do that cash in. I'm so sick of trying to be positive and think that what ever is happening is going somewhere, I've been saying that for years and nothing has changed its still the same shit over and over again.

The weeks after Money in the Bank and Summerslam itself... I just don't care anymore. I mean four different WWE champions in a month this is just ridiculous.

 

[killer425]

SMACKDOWN

CODY RHODES and this mask and ugly thing has gone on way too far he's the IC champ now and deserves a way better then this

Mark Henry- why didn't everybody just stand outside the ring in the batttle royal I like my entertainment to be somewhat reasonable and he loses to Evan Bourne though he runs threw everybody on the Smack Down roster I don't like it

Kane- why is this guy still around


RAW

Alicia Fox this girl deserves a push and some more mic time as well as all the divas do make it like impact wrestling

Otunga and Mike MC- these guys are boring and there tag titles and there matches are a waste of time how about Santino and Zach Ryder win these titles and just make a fun show with there gimmicks like Eric Young and the TV title or the Hard Core title years ago

Dolph Ziggler vs Koffi Kingston most boring long drawn out feud I've ever seen please don't ever start it up after Dolph retains over Riley

I think Kane is boring he's old news he should walk away


the Battle Royal Henry just stood out there it should be everybody in the ring and as soon as you leave your out

and the Tag titles already are irrelevant the Otunga and Mike MC are boring and I have zero interest in them if they put Santino and Ryder though I do think Evan Bounre and Koffi Kingston is a decent team

 

[H33LTurn]

SMACKDOWN
Mark Henry- why didn't everybody just stand outside the ring in the batttle royal I like my entertainment to be somewhat reasonable and he loses to Evan Bourne though he runs threw everybody on the Smack Down roster I don't like it

Umm maybe because thats not the point of a battle royal. They're fighting for a chance to face the WHC. It makes no sense for them to stand outside, they eventually have to get in there if they want to win.

Kane- why is this guy still around

Because he can still put on a show. He carried SD when Edge and Taker were injured.

Otunga and Mike MC- these guys are boring and there tag titles and there matches are a waste of time how about Santino and Zach Ryder win these titles and just make a fun show with there gimmicks like Eric Young and the TV title or the Hard Core title years ago

The last thing the Tag Division needs is more people making a joke about it. I agree New Nexus has become stale but Santino and Zack arent exactly fit to be champions yet.

 

[H33LTurn]

Did they really have to do that cash in. I'm so sick of trying to be positive and think that what ever is happening is going somewhere, I've been saying that for years and nothing has changed its still the same shit over and over again.

The weeks after Money in the Bank and Summerslam itself... I just don't care anymore. I mean four different WWE champions in a month this is just ridiculous.

Why, would you have been happier if Cena won the title, again? Since that would pretty much defeat the purpose of you stating that your sick of things being the same again. Or CM Punk? I know you guys love him so much and everything is ruined in your eyes because hes not the champion but things are far from the same right now.

 

[Ripley]

Cena as #1 contender sucks...but i know CM PUNK is going to face Nash at NOC....but this is getting lame, RAW has the same 9 people fight every week, smackdown use to suck now its the good show...i watch RAW because Punk makes me laugh with his promos, the rest is junk...WWE needs to up the anti

 

[Cenation716]

Now, before anybody bashes me here for this, let me just say that I am interested in where the current storylines are going, however, I don't agree completely with all of ir.

WWE has managed to make the 52 year old Kevin Nash relevant again, and looking as if Nash will be wrestling a match against CM Punk at Night of Champions. Now, I get that Nash is HHH's friend in real life & storyline, but couldn't they get somebody better than Nash? No disrespect towards him, but he is 52, has a bad leg & isn't no Sting (who is also 52) in the ring. Granted, Sting may not be able to wrestle like he used to, but he can still go while he slows down into retirement. All interent rumor sites & dirt sheets clearly point to a HHH heel turn, however, the way the WWE is going about it, it's confusing. Just when you think that HHH is going to turn when he has his confrontation with CM Punk tonight & after his unintentional "screw-job" to John Cena at Summerslam & not re-starting the match, we get John Laurinaitis sending HHH out to a hospital where Kevin Nash is supposedly, leaving John in control of the rest of RAW (which he did nothing anyways). Now, we all saw it, Nash returned, enabling Cena to get the win over Punk with his distraction & John just sitting by. Now, the CM Punk leaving WWE storyline was great, but they ruined it too quick by having him come back 2 weeks later, but it was still good. Punk & Cena put on 5 star matches (tonight's wasn't bad either) & had a great storyline where breaking the fourth wall & cutting edgy promos were mandatory pieces. Del Rio cashes in after Nash screws Punk, now, this is our next top storyline? One, why did Johnny Ace get rid of HHH to obviously have Nash screw Punk, but tries to stop Del Rio from his brutal assault on Cena (we will get to that in a moment)? Punk is a face, who Johnny Ace doesn't like, but Cena is also a face, who Ace also doesn't care for all that much. With Del Rio obviously playing some sort of part in this Nash-Laurinaitis angle, why does it go down this way? If HHH is turning heel, what signs point to it? As Nash walks off on HHH pretty much, Johnny Ace getting rid of HHH & Cena not having any part of this, even though he's with Punk as one of the top faces in the WWE.

My next point, well, it's John Cena, WWE's resident Superhero. Just when ou think it's okay to be a Cena fan again., think twice! Last week, John cut a great, although brief, promo on Del Rio. No smiles, no jokes, no catchphrases, just angry Cena, the one we saw back from 2002-2007 (2005-2007 being his Ruthless Aggression/bad-ass Marine gimmick). This week, it's Cena coming out, smiling & cutting an okay promo, but nothing special. Since Summerslam, he has wrestled great matches & has semmingly ditched the "5 Moves of doom" & "Hulk-up comeback" routine. Those two things alone point to a new Cena, but no, WWE disappoints us with the ending of RAW. Not only did Cena win via a distraction, but he recieved his typical post-match beat down that he always seesm to get when he becomes number one contender to a title. Let's go back to 2008, where Jericho was going after Cena for the World Heavyweight title & Jericho would jump Cena, at Armageddon, Cena would defeat Jericho. WrestleMania 26 season, Cena gets his ass kicked almost every week by Batista, then Cena would defeat Batista. Then let's go to WrestleMania 27, where Cena gets his ass handed to him every week by The Miz leading up to the big event, where he looked as if he was going to win, until Rock cost him the match. But if Cena gets his ass kicked every damn week by Del Rio, it seems as if Cena is bound to win the title, then recieve more beat-downs. My problem is, I am bored with John Cena, his character is stale & played out. Why can't Cena stay like the Cena we've had since Summerslam? Why do we have to resort back to Super-Cena? Your thoughts...

Mark Henry, now here's a topic that I see alot of people talking about. Now, since his push began, he's been on a destructive rampage, taking out big Show, Kane, destryoing a steel cage, the ringside area & WWE employees. Then, we get Sheamus. At Summerslam, Henry defeated Sheamus, but only via count -out. Then, if you saw the commercials, on SmackDown this week, Sheamus & Mark Henry go one-on-one again in a SS rematch. Now, if WWE is trying to push Sheamus (face-turn signals push even more) & Mark Henry, why have them feud? You can't have Sheamus go over Henry, then it's a clear sign of Mark's drop down to mid-card, considering Orton isn't going to drop the title this soon. But if Henry wins again, not only does he have two victories over Sheamus, but it makes Sheamus look weaker as a competitior, for his character & his push loses momentum.

Those are just a few examples of WWE's angles & characters that I don't agree with 100%. Yes, I am a Cena fan, but this current Cena character has got to go, I'm sick of it. I'm all for this new Punk against the Corporate WWE but Nash doesn't fit in & the characters aren't fitting the puzzle. Mark Henry's push is great, but you can't have him destroy another person's push just to have him get by. What do you think of WWE's current direction with it's top storylines & characters & what would you change about them? Thoughts please, thanks guys!

 

[#hamler]

WWE has managed to make the 52 year old Kevin Nash relevant again, and looking as if Nash will be wrestling a match against CM Punk at Night of Champions. Now, I get that Nash is HHH's friend in real life & storyline, but couldn't they get somebody better than Nash? No disrespect towards him, but he is 52, has a bad leg & isn't no Sting (who is also 52) in the ring. Granted, Sting may not be able to wrestle like he used to, but he can still go while he slows down into retirement.

Yeah, the match won't be pretty but you have to realize Nash fits here. Nash is a 7 foot, former WCW/WWF Champion. He's an established vet. How great will it look for someome like Punk to go over a big tough hard ass like Kevin Nash?

All interent rumor sites & dirt sheets clearly point to a HHH heel turn,

Don't rely on dirt sheets for anything. Even if it were true, the WWE usually changes it's direction before going through with whatever they originally had planned.

however, the way the WWE is going about it, it's confusing. Just when you think that HHH is going to turn when he has his confrontation with CM Punk tonight & after his unintentional "screw-job" to John Cena at Summerslam & not re-starting the match, we get John Laurinaitis sending HHH out to a hospital where Kevin Nash is supposedly, leaving John in control of the rest of RAW (which he did nothing anyways). Now, we all saw it, Nash returned, enabling Cena to get the win over Punk with his distraction & John just sitting by.

Unanswered questions will make the majority of the RAW's audience tune in next week.

Now, the CM Punk leaving WWE storyline was great, but they ruined it too quick by having him come back 2 weeks later,

Fans are too impatient nowadays. After Money in the Bank, fans were chanting for CM Punk.

but it was still good.

Indeed.

Punk & Cena put on 5 star matches (tonight's wasn't bad either) & had a great storyline where breaking the fourth wall & cutting edgy promos were mandatory pieces. Del Rio cashes in after Nash screws Punk, now, this is our next top storyline?

Del Rio is somewhat irrelevant here. Punk's beef is more with Nash and Triple H - that's our top storyline.

One, why did Johnny Ace get rid of HHH to obviously have Nash screw Punk, but tries to stop Del Rio from his brutal assault on Cena (we will get to that in a moment)? Punk is a face, who Johnny Ace doesn't like, but Cena is also a face, who Ace also doesn't care for all that much. With Del Rio obviously playing some sort of part in this Nash-Laurinaitis angle, why does it go down this way? If HHH is turning heel, what signs point to it?

Exactly. Stop reading dirt sheets and stop actually believing them. You take away what you read on dirt sheets and it'll make more sense.

As Nash walks off on HHH pretty much, Johnny Ace getting rid of HHH & Cena not having any part of this, even though he's with Punk as one of the top faces in the WWE.

Explain what you mean here.

My next point, well, it's John Cena, WWE's resident Superhero. Just when ou think it's okay to be a Cena fan again., think twice! Last week, John cut a great, although brief, promo on Del Rio. No smiles, no jokes, no catchphrases, just angry Cena, the one we saw back from 2002-2007 (2005-2007 being his Ruthless Aggression/bad-ass Marine gimmick). This week, it's Cena coming out, smiling & cutting an okay promo, but nothing special. Since Summerslam, he has wrestled great matches & has semmingly ditched the "5 Moves of doom" & "Hulk-up comeback" routine. Those two things alone point to a new Cena, but no, WWE disappoints us with the ending of RAW. Not only did Cena win via a distraction, but he recieved his typical post-match beat down that he always seesm to get when he becomes number one contender to a title. Let's go back to 2008, where Jericho was going after Cena for the World Heavyweight title & Jericho would jump Cena, at Armageddon, Cena would defeat Jericho. WrestleMania 26 season, Cena gets his ass kicked almost every week by Batista, then Cena would defeat Batista. Then let's go to WrestleMania 27, where Cena gets his ass handed to him every week by The Miz leading up to the big event, where he looked as if he was going to win, until Rock cost him the match. But if Cena gets his ass kicked every damn week by Del Rio, it seems as if Cena is bound to win the title, then recieve more beat-downs.

Heels beat down the bayfaces only to have the babyfaces come back and win. It's happened before. This is nothing new.

My problem is, I am bored with John Cena, his character is stale & played out. Why can't Cena stay like the Cena we've had since Summerslam? Why do we have to resort back to Super-Cena? Your thoughts...

How exactly was he super tonight? He was on defense for half the match against Punk. Then gets his ass beat by Del Rio. Not exactly super.

Mark Henry, now here's a topic that I see alot of people talking about. Now, since his push began, he's been on a destructive rampage, taking out big Show, Kane, destryoing a steel cage, the ringside area & WWE employees. Then, we get Sheamus. At Summerslam, Henry defeated Sheamus, but only via count -out. Then, if you saw the commercials, on SmackDown this week, Sheamus & Mark Henry go one-on-one again in a SS rematch. Now, if WWE is trying to push Sheamus (face-turn signals push even more) & Mark Henry, why have them feud? You can't have Sheamus go over Henry,

Or have the guy who is in a World Championship match at Night of Champions go over as opposed to the other guy who isn't currently doing anything.

then it's a clear sign of Mark's drop down to mid-card, considering Orton isn't going to drop the title this soon. But if Henry wins again, not only does he have two victories over Sheamus, but it makes Sheamus look weaker as a competitior, for his character & his push loses momentum.

First of all, a count out loss will not hurt credibility. Second, Sheamus isn't really doing anything right now. It won't hurt Henry going over Sheamus this Friday. Especially since Henry is in a title match in four weeks and Sheamus isn't.

Those are just a few examples of WWE's angles & characters that I don't agree with 100%. Yes, I am a Cena fan, but this current Cena character has got to go, I'm sick of it. I'm all for this new Punk against the Corporate WWE but Nash doesn't fit in & the characters aren't fitting the puzzle.

The puzzle isn't ciomplete. Have you ever made a puzzle and looked at it before it was completed. Its confusing and stupid looking. But that makes you want to finish it. Once it's done, you'll like it.

Mark Henry's push is great, but you can't have him destroy another person's push just to have him get by.

Why not? How great does that make Henry look as a contender for the World Championship?

What do you think of WWE's current direction with it's top storylines & characters & what would you change about them? Thoughts please, thanks guys!

I wouldn't change a thing. Every storyline is fantastic. This new WWE is holding my attention far better then they have in the last 3 or 4 years.

 

[RD_21]

There's one thing that's been bothering me since Raw ended yesterday, why did they go with that finish for Punk vs Cena.

We all know that Cena has to win since he is feuding with Del Rio and I am fine with that.

We also all know that Punk can't lose 100% clean since he need to remain over since he is red hot. But WHY did they use the most stupid angle in wrestling... the distraction from the ramp when Punk character/gimmick is supposed to be smartened up about what always happen in situation like those. Why would Punk look at Nash on the ramp, while turning his back to his current opponent in a match for the #1 contendership, ignoring at the same time that if Nash attack him he wins by DQ.

They should have gone with a ref bump, Nash laying Punk down with a Jacknife, he then leave and when Punk get back to his feet groggy Cena put him in the AA, but not a stupid distraction from the ramp.

Anyway that was my rant.

 

[The Champ]

Stop overthinking it. Ref bumps shouldn't be wasted on Raw matches. The ending to that match was perfectly fine. And just because Punk is "smart" doesn't mean that he can't get distracted by a guy he doesn't like. If he just ignored the people he didn't like, this entire storyline would be pointless in the first place.

 

[IrishMcNaughton613]

First, I love the WWE. Even if it has things I would change or fix, I still love it. Here is what i think needs to be fixed.

First: Talent- There are guys who are great entertainers that can put on great matches but are not given the push they should. Drew MacIntyre has a great mean look, and can talk it upwell. Cena can do great on the stick but like others have said he does not put on great matches. On the other hand you have John Morrison who can put on a great match but his promo/ Mic stills are really not that good. There are not that many total packages anymore. Take Austin, He didn't do verymany crazy moves and he stuck to the basics mostly but always worth watching.

Second: Face Vs. Heal- Just because the person is a heal shouldn't make them a coward who runs. you can make a guy unlikable but tough. The WWE also did this with Austin which was the biggest mistake I ever saw them make. I know it's ment to make the Face look better but wouldn't the face look great if they beat an appoinent who didn't fear or run from them. You can make the guy say things that make him unlikable but still fearless. Besides honestly who believes that a guy the size of JBL or Bigshow was running from anyone.

Three: make the unstoppable heal. I know they tried that with Brock and people got behind him because he normally won his matches but really those are the wagon jumpers anyways. They almost did it back in the day with the game but they screwed up with my last point and made him run from guys like scott stiner. Make another goldburg or Game or Austin. Make him unlikable but make him unstoppible. People would watch because they know someone will finally come along and dethrone him and will want to be there or watching when it happens.

Sorry for the spelling. I didn't proof read lol

 

[#hamler]

First: Talent- There are guys who are great entertainers that can put on great matches but are not given the push they should. Drew McIntyre has a great mean look, and can talk it upwell.

Drew McIntyre messed up backstage. There isn’t much you can do to recover from that.

Cena can do great on the stick but like others have said he does not put on great matches.

I disagree. John Cena has put on various of great matches: with Shawn Michaels at WM23, CM Punk at numerous Raws and PPVs, Triple H, Randy Orton and tons more. If you look at a WWE card and see John Cena on it, you can pretty much know it will be a good match.

On the other hand you have John Morrison who can put on a great match but his promo/ Mic stills are really not that good. There are not that many total packages anymore.

Now people know why Superstars like Randy Orton and John Cena are always in the main event picture. These guy's are completely reliable to deliver which is more then I can say for someone like Del Rio or John Morrison.

Take Austin, He didn't do verymany crazy moves and he stuck to the basics mostly but always worth watching.

Yes sir.

Second: Face Vs. Heal- Just because the person is a heal shouldn't make them a coward who runs. you can make a guy unlikable but tough. The WWE also did this with Austin which was the biggest mistake I ever saw them make. I know it's ment to make the Face look better but wouldn't the face look great if they beat an appoinent who didn't fear or run from them. You can make the guy say things that make him unlikable but still fearless. Besides honestly who believes that a guy the size of JBL or Bigshow was running from anyone.

Pretty much agreed here. Although, in recent months, R-Truth, The Miz, Mark Henry, a heel CM Punk and a heel Sheamus all have tweaked their characters a bit. Mark Henry and Sheamus have played the type of heel who doesn’t run from their opponents, CM Punk before he turned face wasn’t scared to put up a fight, and even now R-Truth and Miz are taking it to the biggest stars in the WWE without being cowards.

Three: make the unstoppable heal. I know they tried that with Brock and people got behind him because he normally won his matches but really those are the wagon jumpers anyways. They almost did it back in the day with the game but they screwed up with my last point and made him run from guys like scott stiner. Make another goldburg or Game or Austin. Make him unlikable but make him unstoppible. People would watch because they know someone will finally come along and dethrone him and will want to be there or watching when it happens.

Mark Henry. I know he isn’t undefeated and whatnot, but whoever dethrones Henry will be super over.

 

[The Champ]

Morrison doesn't put on great matches, he does spots. You just commended Austin for sticking the basics and still being exciting, and that is an assessment that I completely agree with. But guess what? Cena does the exact same thing. It's not about how flashy you are in the ring. I don't care how many cages or chambers Morrison jumps off or how many times he can jump from the ring to the barricade and back without getting eliminated from the Royal Rumble. Is that stuff exciting to see? Sure, as a midcard act it is. When you step up to the main event, you need something more than that. You need charisma and the ability to connect with the fans in every moment during the match, whether you're the offensive or defensive, no matter what you're trying to do. Cena has pretty much perfected all of that.

 

[IrishMcNaughton613]

Cena has put on good matches but for the most part they fallow the same tempo. Cena starts off strong, Bad guy does something cheap cena gets beat up, Cena makes come back with same five moves. cena almost gets hit by bad guy finisher, oh cena wins or bad guy cheats andbeats cena. Cena was an awesome heal or when he first started becoming face when he could still lose in a fair normal match.