The Survivor Series LD on 11/21 Will See Where The Winds of Change Blow John Cena!

thats why I think the finish pissed me off so much. Could have been so much more gut wrenching the way it went down. It all happened far too fast, and not with near enough build up and subtlety.
NOT enough subtlety? This generations Austin/Hogan just got "fired". What do you want them to do?
Well that and, they flashed the graphic for the end of the show, then removed it, and stayed for another 5 minutes, then showed it again. I have literally NEVER seen that done on any show, ever.

Obviously not planned.
It could have been a simple mistake. Or someone backstage could have yelled to Cena when he was near the gate to go take a lap.
Come on, Stormy. Let's be serious for a second. Security would have followed him wherever he went into the crowd. Their job is to protect the entertainers, keep order and keep fans safe. They would have done so. And WWE wants to follow their prized jewel.
But how did they know to be right where Cena was when he started his lat? They knew because they were planted there. Security is there to protect the entertainers, but they can't protect what they don't know what's gonna happen. They knew it was happening, and they did their job. Security in the past have failed at that before. When Foley won the belt in 99, his shirt was ripped to shreds by fans when he went into the crown without Security. They didn't fail because they knew to be there.
 
they explained it about 934987623469498230487 times. why explain it 934987623469498230488 times. Even mentally handicapped children can understand he's fired if he loses.

Cena DEFINITELY didn't do that on his own. He had security with him. If he didn't do it on his own, the security wouldn't know to go with him. Plus they managed to catch it all on camera.

He didn't just magically turn into some crazy fan who jumped the barricades and needed to be escorted out. If wrestling were real, this would be like cleaning out his desk. Security would still follow him around and keep him protected from fans, and the camera would still follow him until he was done doing whatever he was doing.

He's still John Freaking Cena.

But how did they know to be right where Cena was when he started his lat?

Is this a serious question? He didn't turn invisible. They kept the camera on him. It's the same skill that spotlight operators have.
 
No tension built hardly at all. It was like, one thing.

WHATFUCKYOU PUSHRKOPIN12..3CENAFIREDZOMG

in the span of like, 30 seconds.


fucking bastards, angle built since fucking June, and the culmination takes place over the span of 30 seconds.
why did we need tension? If there was tension, Cena would not have been calling the match down the middle. It makes sense that the first time he had to count a pin on Barrett was the 3 count, because any other time and Cena hesitating would read as Cena helping Barrett, which he said he wouldn't do, and would counteract his calling it down the middle.
 
I don't know what everybody's freaking out over.

He'll probably be on Raw tomorrow night, just so Wade Barrett can tell him he's fired; or for Michael Cole to have some massive GM revealing and cancel the whole storyline that we've all been suckered into since June.

Nobody freaked out when Chris Jericho got fired in 2005.
 
But how did they know to be right where Cena was when he started his lat? They knew because they were planted there. Security is there to protect the entertainers, but they can't protect what they don't know what's gonna happen. They knew it was happening, and they did their job. Security in the past have failed at that before. When Foley won the belt in 99, his shirt was ripped to shreds by fans when he went into the crown without Security. They didn't fail because they knew to be there.

So if you saw a child falling out of a high chair, you wouldn't go and save it?

If you have at least 1/4 of a brain, you're going to go in the direction of what your job tells you to do. I bet those security were fired after Foley won the title.
 
I don't know what everybody's freaking out over.

He'll probably be on Raw tomorrow night, just so Wade Barrett can tell him he's fired; or for Michael Cole to have some massive GM revealing and cancel the whole storyline that we've all been suckered into since June.

Nobody freaked out when Chris Jericho got fired in 2005.

Chris Jericho in 05 is not John Cena of 2010.
 
why did we need tension? If there was tension, Cena would not have been calling the match down the middle. It makes sense that the first time he had to count a pin on Barrett was the 3 count, because any other time and Cena hesitating would read as Cena helping Barrett, which he said he wouldn't do, and would counteract his calling it down the middle.

Nah, all he needs to do is hesitate a bit here and there. It was like nothing was at stake or hung in the balance.

After the RKO, they should have stared at each other for just a second, basically signaling "oh fuck, moment of truth"

Coco, I meant building the drama and tension through subtlety, along with blatant things. Rather than, uh, nothing.
 
Nah, all he needs to do is hesitate a bit here and there. It was like nothing was at stake or hung in the balance.

After the RKO, they should have stared at each other for just a second, basically signaling "oh fuck, moment of truth"

Coco, I meant building the drama and tension through subtlety, along with blatant things. Rather than, uh, nothing.

Since when was Cena a good actor?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1563704/ (Legendary)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1160368/ (12 Rounds)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419946/ (The Marine)
 
NOT enough subtlety? This generations Austin/Hogan just got "fired". What do you want them to do?

I meant during the match itself. I loved the aftermath, exactly how it should have went. It just felt a little cheap since there was no weight to the conflict during the match. It all just felt way too mechanical.

Probably has to do with Barret and Orton being shit more than anything.
 
So if you saw a child falling out of a high chair, you wouldn't go and save it?

If you have at least 1/4 of a brain, you're going to go in the direction of what your job tells you to do. I bet those security were fired after Foley won the title.
it was before the match (he went through the crowd after getting the match).

And sorry, but the security guards weren't just in the right place at the right time. And if it's their job to congregate near the superstar, then every security guard would be right next to him, not tucked away in a corner where you can't even see him unless he comes to you (like he did). They were told to be there. going into the crowd (especially like that) is never going to be a surprise thing, because even with security there is a risk. The copyright flashed because it was either a mistake, or they were gonna do the lap as a post-show thing, then decided against it.
 
Nah, all he needs to do is hesitate a bit here and there. It was like nothing was at stake or hung in the balance.

After the RKO, they should have stared at each other for just a second, basically signaling "oh fuck, moment of truth"

Coco, I meant building the drama and tension through subtlety, along with blatant things. Rather than, uh, nothing.

The whole reason that there wasnt a stare or anything was because cena basically did it in the heat of the moment...barrett pissed him off and that anger made him want wade to lose. The instant that he counted the three he went to the ground wondering what he just did but tomorrow should be interesting.
 
Its like courting a girl who is way too hot for you since June, and then her getting shit tossed drunk, throwing herself at you, and then you have a 30 second missionary session with her half awake.

Yea you accomplished the goal, and the aftermath of which was pretty cool, but fuck if the actual act and how it went down wasnt downright unfufilling
 
Hey, lost among all of the discussion of the "firing" of Cena, is the new WWE Women's champion, Natalya, and the return of her buddy Beth Phoenix. I'm sure it was discussed earlier in the LD, I'm not going back to read through all of that. Now we should finally get to see some quality women's wrestling, when the inevitable Beth Phoenix versus Natalya match happens. Should be better than anything offered on Mondays, Thursdays, or Fridays with respect to women's wrestling.
 

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