Exactly! The first thing you've said correctly. Of course, it helps that you're repeating me, but nonetheless, you've been able to say something correctly.
And then you ruined it. How does that not make sense? The WWE doesn't care if Cena gets booed, so they have no problems making a storyline out of it to sell tickets.
If you can't understand that most basic of concepts, then I might have no choice but to label you as nothing more than a troll, and consider removing you from these forums. That's not even a "like or dislike Cena" thing, that's just basic common sense.
You say I'm deluded, and yet when you repeat the most logical of sentences you say it doesn't make sense. I think the problem here is you, not me. As do most other reasonable people.
Is that the beginning of your concession speech? At this point, you've basically admitted I'm right about Cena being a face is the best option for business. You aren't even arguing it anymore, you're just fixated on the people you think I love. Why is that, by the way? Why are you so concerned if I love Cena or not? Are you hitting on me, bro? Sorry, I'm a married man and I don't swing that way.
You'll need to find someone else to have your gay love with.
And there are MANY people who are entertained by the concept of a man who does the right thing, has morals and a quality reputation.
The fact you're not one of them says a lot more about you than Cena. I believe we've covered this already.
I never once said that everyone who watches wrestling does so for the nicest guy. What I said is that his character appeals to those who do. Seriously, let me help you.
You should try it. You seem to be having an awful lot of difficulty understanding the words that I write.
Because I've been on wrestling forums, as I said, since your mother was changing your diapers. I've been around from the very beginning of the Cena hate, and I know exactly all the ridiculous things people have said about why they hate Cena. And, as I've already said to you, as Cena keeps making those reasons irrelevant, people just invent new reasons to dislike him. It doesn't matter what Cena does, people have it in their mind they have to create reasons to justify their boos, instead of just admitting to themselves they are nothing more than a bunch of blind sheep who think it is cool to boo him.
If you were tired of John Cena, you'd turn off the TV and quit going to shows. But that's not happening. People pay good money just so they can show up to boo Cena. Obviously those people are not tired of him, they very much care about his character. People are tired of Santino Marella, that's why he doesn't get much in the way of pops anymore and he doesn't show up on Raw much anymore. With Cena, whether your love him or love to hate him, you still care.
And those people who boo, need a reason to do so, so they don't have to admit the truth to themselves. Those who boo do so out of blind hatred or blind fear. Probably a combination. It's like the question I posed to you earlier...why does it matter if Cena has a character which appeals to children? How does that stop you from enjoying the great matches he puts on, and the interesting storylines he is always in? It doesn't, but people so desperately want others to know they're not children, so they boo, mistakenly believing the only thing which should appeal to them is "R" rated content.
In this country, so many adults have such a fear that people will mock them for enjoying shows which appeal to children, as if we are somehow less of a person for being entertained by these shows. Adults won't go see the Muppets movie, because it's a "kids movie", and will never get to appreciate the incredible movie. And The Muppets was incredible, not just for kids but for adults too. But so many people will miss out on that, for fear of someone mocking them for liking a product which appeals to children.
So it goes with adult males and John Cena. They are so scared someone will laugh at them (like you're trying to do with me) because they like a character which is not for kids, but does appeal to kids. And it's this fright of being mocked which leads to the blind hatred.
Now, I'm sure you'll skim over this, completely misinterpret what I just said, and then call me a ****** again because your vocabulary is limited to only 100 words, but it won't change the fact that it's true, and I'm right. So go ahead, try and dodge the fact I'm right, call me a ****** because you're not intelligent enough to come up with any other insult, none of it will distract reasonable people from the truth.
Because we're not all 8th grade students like yourself, and have this ability to process data and reason and make conclusions based upon the facts. Because we understand how the world works, not just from our parent's cockroach infested apartment like you, but because we've been in it and experienced with money that we've earned and didn't have to beg for like you. Because business is not a "throw crap on the wall and see what sticks" endeavor, there are many factors which can lead to reasonable conclusions.
And even if it wouldn't hurt business, there's basically ZERO proof it would help business. Why in the world would you alter your product with a great risk and no reward? That's just a foolish business decision. There has to be an equal reward for the risk you're willing to take.
You're arguing with a grown-up, little boy. Take my word for it, we can definitely tell.
Not at all, if there's a good reason to turn him heel. But there's not right now. There's no one to take his spot, and there's not a big time storyline they can make out of it. If the Rock was coming back full time, or Lesnar was still there, then maybe there could be an argument to turn Cena heel. But they're not, so right now, why would you lose your best and most versatile face for nothing?
Cena can feud with heels and faces right now. If you turn him heel, he can no longer feud with heels because heel vs heel feuds always bomb. So right away, you're cutting in half the opportunities for storylines, for no apparent reward. Also, like I said, what kind of heel is Cena going to play, that is going to be unique enough to make him a unique heel, and not just another shark in the dirty water? There isn't a heel character he can play that is going to make him unique, so now you've wasted his big turn for no reason.
I don't know what you have against logic, but for the first time in this thread, I ask that you use it.
That's just it though, you can't just go back. Things won't be the same if you go back. Cena is a very unique character. If you turn him heel, he loses that uniqueness, and becomes just another character on the show. He'll lose that love/hate quality about his character, and that can't be restored once he goes back face.
No, you HAVE to have a moneymaking venture planned to make it worth turning him heel.
It's also making the most profit it has made since the Attitude Era, so obviously not everyone shares your opinion. Furthermore, it has also kept the WWE in business, while so many business across the world are shutting down to the economy. Finally, it has kept the WWE in business, even after the Chris Benoit situation, which nearly everyone in the WWE agrees severely crippled the company.
Perhaps you don't like it, but enough others do, and that's been important in keeping the WWE going strong during the rough last 5 years.
I find it laughable you can't come up with an argument I haven't answered. You're trolling, son, and not very well.
I haven't changed my argument once. You just seem to struggle with comprehending the fact my argument is deeper than a kiddy wading pool.
And again, this infatuation with my love life. Seriously, I'm not interested. You'll have to find someone else to love.
Amusing coming from the person who is saying the wrestler who makes the most money needs to be changed.
A lot of people agree with what I said. There's plenty around these forums who agree with what I said. They just get tired of dealing with the stupid people like you, so they don't post in these sections of the forum anymore.
But argumentum ad populum isn't even a valid argument. How about you try debating with less fallacious arguments? Or better yet, take the time to comprehend what I'm saying, apply logic, and then admit I'm right after all.
Because it would have been so difficult to write a "2" at the end of Assassin's Creed?
It's not wrong to feel empathy, but that doesn't effect the morality of many of his actions.
Let's say your best friend goes to a bar, gets drunk and gets into a heated exchange with another patron. They step outside, and your friend punches the guy in the face. The other guy pulls out his handgun and shoots your best friend in the face, killing him. Do you see anything wrong with that? Do you see anything wrong with retaliation of a lethal weapon in response to a fistfight?
You say potato, I say potato...hmm, that really works better when you say it and not type it. Anyways, the point is Punk was whining. He sound like a high school girl creating high school drama. If I was at home, I'd post YouTube clips of all his whining.
No, they didn't. Cena getting booed the way he does definitely caught them by surprise, which is certainly understandable. They even tried to fight it for a while. But at Wrestlemania 22, they saw they had something fresh and unique, something which could draw good money. So they experimented. They put Cena with RVD at One Night Stand, and it was wildly successful. After that point, the WWE decided they didn't care if people boo Cena, as long as they pay money to see him. So they kept putting him with guys who would make money, even if it resulted in Cena getting booed.
Exactly. Could you please tell that other idiot this? Maybe he'll pay attention when you explain it.
You know, I used to think you were an idiot, but after dealing with that other moron for a while now, I almost welcome talking to you.
Edge wasn't better than Cena. Edge was an average in-ring worker, with a great mind for gimmick matches. Edge relied on gimmick matches to build his reputation as a wrestler, but when it came to the classic 1-on-1 match, he was simply average in the ring.
Edge was very good on the mic, but so is Cena. Cena just happens to be more entertaining (which we know because he was a better draw) and a better in-ring worker.
And that's what I've been saying for years. If you are truly tired of John Cena, quit booing him. Quit going to the shows. But as long as you're making the WWE the most profit since the Attitude Era, they're not going to change the show.
It's all part of the positive image Cena brings to the company, and the marketing appeal he has. But so many people here don't understand that the pro wrestling business is not simply contained to what you see on TV each week, that there is a whole lot more which goes into it.
