Conspiracy Storyline - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!

[ITrippedTheShockmaster]

My thoughts on the Summerslam finish

Cena losing on a botched pin by HHH - Think about this... in the lead-in to this match, Punk had asserted that HHH and Cena were working together to screw Punk out of the title. Inserting Stephanie into the mix at the PPV made things a bit more interesting, especially when she was shown exiting Cena's locker room after earlier being insulted by Punk. Now, Punk wins on a "mistake" by HHH, which keeps Cena as a face and gives Punk reason to gloat, before...

Nash run-in to jacknife C.M. Punk - Anyone who follows backstage knows that Nash was brought in under a Legends contract. Yes, he appeared at the Rumble... briefly. Since then, he's been in a backstage role (I believe he was down with X-Pac scouting talent in FCW for a while). I figured he'd be brought back soon to do something on camera. Yes, HHH and Nash are boys from back in the Cliq days, so the initial thought is that HHH brought him in to rough up Punk in the case that he won the match, but notice that Nash left the ring after HHH ran back toward it. Interesting. Then...

Alberto Del Rio cashes in MITB to become new WWE Champion - Ok, who didn't see this coming? I haven't seen anyone mention that ever since ADR won the MITB, he's tried to cash in a few times and got beat down before he could officially cash in. Maybe he was just being opportunistic and picking the bones from Nash's attack, ordered by HHH. Or, maybe ADR comes out on Raw tonight and says that he got tired of not being able to cash in MITB, so he hired Nash as an "insurance policy" to make sure he didn't get screwed out of his chance. Maybe I'm looking into it too much, but it's an avenue they may take.

My point is that there's no point in having ADR run in, get the belt and then pull him and the title out of the top storyline of the show altogether. The Punk/Cena/HHH story is not going to play second fiddle to ADR as champion, and vice versa. The belt's gotta be involved in the driving storyline of the show or, IMO, it cheapens the belt at ADR's title reign. I know there have been main storylines that didn't involve the championship, but they're rare.

And as far as Nash being revealed at the Anonymous GM... I like the idea.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

That is the most mind numbingly hypocritical thing I've ever seen in my life. You're talking about Punk bitching about the IWC jumping to conclusions when they see something they don't like? You say just shut up and watch? Well I think Punk also criticised the fans who watch regardless of how good or bad the product is. So, yes, we should stop watching when we're watching something we don't like. That's the fun of freedom. It doesn't matter anyway because 99.9% of those bitching will tune in tonight. Get over it, you angry, angry man.

As for the angle, I'm not sure about it. I did want to Punk to go away with the title, but this adds more questions and an extra dimension to the angle. It's about to become a lot bigger than Cena vs Punk to decide the WWE champion. It's well known by wrestling fans that Kevin Nash is an absolute ****e for money, he'll do anything. Both Del Rio and the McMahons have plenty of money, so the question is who is he working for? Or is he working for both? If this is done properly and it's still enthralling by Night of Champions, I'll be a happy camper. But until I see Raw tonight, I'm on the fence.

Punk said those bad things about the fans because he was in character (it wasn't a shoot, it was a worked shoot, he loves the fans).

I really don't get why so many of you are wrapped up in who has the belt. To me that's not interesting. If I'm a fan of a heel, I don't want him to win cleanly (I'm looking at all you Christian fans). That's bad for his character. I like to see what's the most interesting thing to happen. If Punk wins, even if it's not clean, is that really all that interesting? His character is based off him sticking it to the man, if he has the belt, what reason does he have to stick it to them?

Now Punk feels screwed. It was by nash, a former Kliqster, but HHH didn't seem in on it. So that alone is interesting. Cena is screwed, but the guy he lost to doesn't have the belt, so that's interesting. ADR vs Mysterio, numbero uno mexicano rudo v. numero uno mexicano tecnico, san diego, Mexico on Raw should be fun because I expect the crowd to be crazy.

Just so much "pot stirring" I call it going on. If Punk wins or if Cena wins clean, then the feud loses a lot of steam unless you change one of their characters, which kills the dynamic you have going. If one wins in a cheap way, you're basically where you were before. Right now it's a jumbled mess but in a good way.

What if someone ELSE was behind it all. What if someone, maybe one of the McMahons, wants HHH out of power and framing him to make it look like he's corrupt is their way of getting him out.

So you have HHH trying to prove he's innocent. For the next few weeks we keep finding stuff out that makes it seem he's guilty. Eventually he gets kicked out of power, but we find out he was innocent. At survivor series it's HHH and his boys vs the new powers and their boys for the COO position.

That probably won't happen, because the fact that I came up with it means it probably won't (not that it's a bad idea, just that the odds are low). I guess my point is that there are so many options. Nash is working for ADR, Nash is working for HHH, Nash is working for Vince, Nash is working for Exxon Mobile and they wanted him to clean up an oil spill, he heard what they said wrong, thought they said "go powerbomb CM Punk", it could really go anywhere and that's the beauty of it. Things are still interesting.

Raw hasn't even started. HHH could mysteriously not show up, Mysterio gets mysteriously taken out in the back, Raw GM says Miz gets the shot for some reason they can conjur up, Miz wins the title on Raw before Mysterio limps back out, then Cena and Punk come out and it's a huge brawl.

They could really do anything here and most of the ideas sound fun.

 

[DForce]

I feel that Nash is one of the biggest D-bags in prowrestling, and I'm glad that he finally stepped away from the keyboard to do something constructive, but I still like dude, a lot. Nash is one of the biggest, badest, and most controversial characters, or personalities, ever in sports entertainment. But what was his deal last night, you ask?

Let's see. WWE is headed in this "life imitates art (or vice versa)" direction, so what would the REAL Kevin Nash be motivated by? Money, of cour$e. Here's the deal: Triple H didn't want Punk to be champion because Hunter doesn't like Punk. So Trips hires some extra muscle to do his bidding; that muslce is Nash, of course. (Or may be ADR hired Nash.)

Or, may be Nash has his own motives. Punk is quick to call someone "old". May be Nash, being a relic, takes offense to that. Plus, didn't Big Kev have this huge issue with the Youth Movement? May be he see's Punk as the embodiment of that movement and seeks to destroy it by destroying Punk.

Dudes, it's fun to "arm chair quarterback" this stuff, but we'll certainly find out tonight. Whatever Nash's involvement is, I hope it's long term, for I see nothing wrong with a mixture of old school, new school rather than some one dimensional, biased aim like the Youth Movement.

 

[byrnside]

Personally I can not wait to see where this is headed. Undoubtedly this whole C.M. Punk is the hottest thing in wrestling, maybe since Stone Cold. I for one would be excited to see a heel Triple H come out from this, which it's pretty obvious that's where we're headed. I think we're headed for another "two man power trip" type of angle with Punk and Cena reluctantly teaming up to combat the likes of Triple H/Stephanie/Laurinitis/Nash and maybe del Rio and Vinnie Mac. I only wish Shane was around to be a part of it.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

I'm actually excited. If he stays I hope he stays around as Del Rio's bodyguard as I think it would be whats best for both guys at this point.

Kevin Nash isn't in good enough shape where he can wrestle full time or even a full match and Del Rio just became champ, has a character of a rich mexican aristocrat a bodyguard is a great fit for him and who better than Diesel, the former bodyguard of Shawn Michaels and also someone who was champ for a year and one of the more dominant champs I can remember. Del Rio's association with Kevin Nash can only help him at this point.

I like Del Rio, I'm looking forward to seeing what he could do as champ and Kevin Nash would be a great addition to Del Rio as his bodyguard.

 

[Dazman14]

I am sure that over the weekend there was an article where Del Rio hinted at cashing in the MitB briefcase at SummerSlam. Does this suggest that Del Rio knew about Nash's appearance? If so, it could mean that Del Rio has either hired Nash as bodyguard or that Del Rio has aligned himself with Trips and/or Steph as the 'Corporate' Champion so to speak.

Could mean none of these, anyways I'm tuning into Raw to find out.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Honestly guys, I think any heel Triple H, Triple H turns out to be a bad guy, Triple H wants power and teams up with old friends is a predictable and boring idea.

I like the idea of using the fact that EVERYONE has it on their mind and using it to create questions. Keep Triple H on the fence. Each week you find out more and more and more things happen and you are never sure until the end when you find out he was a good guy all along and you (you being the fans) doubted him for no reason. Maybe even Punk doubts him and hates him for no reason.

One of my favorite storylines ever was when there was the fake Sting, everyone thought he joined the nWo, Fall brawl comes around, Sting comes in, clears house, then says "is that good enough for ya" and then walks away. I think a similar situation with HHH would be cool. Punk is so convinced that Triple H screwed him, and for weeks it looks like he did, then when Punk has pretty much burnt that bridge (more than he already has) we find out HHH was innocent.

So much excitement. I think it's funny that the worst things people say about the booking is "not everything was explained". When people are complaining that they don't now why everything happened, you did a good job.

 

[#hamler]

As a life long Kevin Nash mark, I loved seeing him back last night. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I know what the fuck it was all about as there are many questions still unanswered. Either Kevin Nash was paid off or something deeper will happen. I am just glad to have a veteran who is established enough back on the roster, hopefully active again. Anonymous RAW General Manager? I'll pass on that as the GM is completely irrelevant now that Triple H is an on screen authority figure. I'm not saying Nash should run after the WWE Title or anything but it would be great if Nash can get some of the younger, less established guys over.

 

[musiclover12]

i for one am really happy Kevin Nash is back. For the simple fact that it adds more suprises to the storyline. WWE really outdid themselfs this time. I didnt now Nash was coming back and it raises alot of questions. one of them is Did Vince McMahon "hired" Nash to attack Punk. for the simple fact that vince wanted revenge for punk wanting to take the belt to R.O.H? or that Triple H wants to start a new corporation to silence punk from exposing the WWE even further. whatever it is, im gonna be watching.

 

[brochester8]

I personally think HHH & Steph are behind Nash's return and now the Kliq is running the show.

Of course I have no proof since HHH acted suprise but I feel it was a plan. With HHH running the show we will probably see all more of Nash, Xpac, and HBK. I don't see Hall coming back due to his problems.

It has HHH usine/abusing his power. Making him heel.

I think last night left a lot of storylines open for Del Rio, Cena, HHH, Nash, and Punk.

Looking forward to tonight.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I hope he isn't ADR's bodyguard. I believe Kevin Nash was a hired gun for the McMahons. Nonetheless, more questions than answers = interest level sparked.

1st Post.

 

[grytonus]

I honestly think that we are going to have something like this...

HHH and Stephanie, X-Pac and Kevin Nash as the heads/leaders of WWE

vs.

Vince, Johnny Ace, and Mick Foley (since he and HHH have a bad fued history) and the "Raw GM..." if that storyline hasnt been scrapped yet.

Im thinking that we will see the closest thing to the TV-14 attitude era coming back and taking on the Old School TV-PG that Vince is so in love with.
(Im talking Gold and Blue Days of WWF)

There hasnt been a rivalry in a very long time like this with the corporate against the wrestlers, and well, it might seem as though this is corporate vs. corporate...
(Team #1 HHH etc... were/are all wrestlers)

I think it would be nice..with it all finishing down in Wrestlemania..where Rock vs. Cena is Team vs. Team and that is the final battle...

Who knows..all I know is, they suckered me back in there once again..

 

[Notorious718]

While I'm still unhappy Punk dropped the title last night because of Nash's interference, at the very least that clusterfuck of an ending (and a good clusterfuck at that, all things considered) has made me very pumped for RAW tonight. The most logical explanation at the moment is that Del Rio probably paid off Nash (which makes sense since he's all about the money). Or perhaps Nash and Del Rio aren't associated at all and it's all just coincidence. Maybe Nash is in cahoots with HHH and that look on HHH's face last night when Nash returned was just to throw everyone off. The PPV raised more questions than answers and I'm loving it.

 

[Miz_Mark]

Don't you remember what happened? Cena had Punk won when Vinny and Johnny Ace hit the scene and tried to screw Punk causing a "distraction" to Cena for Punk to win. Even WWE.com had to mention that Cena was "distracted" before he lost.

No, what I remember happening was Punk was firmly in control of the match when Vince and Johnny Ace came out and distracted HIM, and only that distraction allowed Cena to get the STF in place, then Cena let it go to prevent interference and got distracted no more or less than Punk had already been distracted. It was a clean win.


As far as the Nash run in, that was definitely out of left field... I'm interested to see where this goes. As man have noted, a wealth of possibilities exist. This angle has been the best thing running in WWE since it started, that could continue from here, or WWE could drop the ball. Neither would surprise me, but I remain hopeful that it will continue to rock.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

I don't mind seeing Kevin "Diesel" Nash back, looks pretty awesome is pretty awesome. It's just amusing that if this was not WWE and Nash did this, people would be complaining that Nash is coming in and squashing the young talent that deserve their spots. So many double standards it makes me sick.

Personally speaking, this SummerSlam was pretty good in some areas but weak in others, I don't care what people say about Night Of Champions, in my opinion there's too many pay per views. SummerSlam is the second biggest event after WrestleMania, at least that's how I remember its marketing being. Therefore it should showcase matches like the tag team titles being defended as well as the US and IC. I don't mind Night of Champions per se, but it should not be so close to SummerSlam on the PPV schedule for this very fact alone.

All in all, Kevin Nash's return last night added some intrigue to SummerSlam, just don't let the dye job on his hair fool you boys and girls, he's still over 50 years old, FYI.

 

[WunNightStan619]

I completely flipped out when Big Kev returned. He's wun of my all time favorites. to me, it would be the koolest thing in the world to have the Kliq reform and to feud with CM Punk in the process. You got Nash, HHH and possibly Waltman coming back too.

But i really have no clue what the angle here is. I mean they could go soooo many different directions with this wun. 2011 is a great time to be a wrestling fan, as the unpredictability factor is back, and its back by great ME matches such as the Punk/Cena series. Cant wait to see what unfolds. Cant remember when the last time i was so eager to see Raw lolz

 

[NoChanceInHell]

When you re-watch the video of last night you can see Nash walking to the ring, then the camera pans away. He's in the ring for about 10 seconds before it shows him. The part I don't get is why Cole, King and Booker all pretend that they can't see Nash in the ring. I mean Cole's like 'who the hell is that'. the match was over so he's not even looking at the monitor on the desk. You're telling me all 3 announcers didn't see Nash despite all the fans hooting and hollering?

come on. still loved it though!

 

[mr_dna]

Please God Please VKM,HHH & WWE Dont even think about using that fucking waste of space Xpac in this storyline or ever on TV. He is nothing and never really has been.

Now on topic im think they will put Nash with Stepth she always was one for surprises and going behind peoples back on TV know it maybe be a good few years since we have seen this . Can see Stepth saying its whats best for business as they cant have a loud mouth punk as the figure head for the company or something along them lines . But whatever its is i cant wait and WWE has done a great job people thought HHH would screw one of them then ADR would cash in or JL would screw someone or Even VKM , No one expected Nash

 

[closet_fan]

When you re-watch the video of last night you can see Nash walking to the ring, then the camera pans away. He's in the ring for about 10 seconds before it shows him. The part I don't get is why Cole, King and Booker all pretend that they can't see Nash in the ring. I mean Cole's like 'who the hell is that'. the match was over so he's not even looking at the monitor on the desk. You're telling me all 3 announcers didn't see Nash despite all the fans hooting and hollering?

come on. still loved it though!

Funny you mention this because I thought the exact same thing. If anything, it's the concept they use on comedies. They lead the viewer at home to think a certain character isn't there when someone else talks about them, etc, when the studio audience sees them clear as day, but can't make a reaction until told to do so.

It didn't bother me because it heightened Nash's presence when Punk turned around. It wouldn't have been as good if Nash was standing there while Punk had his back turned.

 

[closet_fan]

Please God Please VKM,HHH & WWE Dont even think about using that fucking waste of space Xpac in this storyline or ever on TV. He is nothing and never really has been.

Now on topic im think they will put Nash with Stepth she always was one for surprises and going behind peoples back on TV know it maybe be a good few years since we have seen this . Can see Stepth saying its whats best for business as they cant have a loud mouth punk as the figure head for the company or something along them lines . But whatever its is i cant wait and WWE has done a great job people thought HHH would screw one of them then ADR would cash in or JL would screw someone or Even VKM , No one expected Nash

Nash was a big signing because he was big in the WWE, WCW and TNA, but X-Pac was nothing without the Klique. I am sure HHH is distancing himself, somewhat, from him knowing how unreliable he is. He simply can't be trusted as an on-camera presence.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I think that this has been a brilliant move on the WWE's part. I think that this might be the start of another conspiracy theory angle in the WWE. Nash's involvement was vital because that will help Punk accuse HHH of the fact that he had conspired to take the title off him. HHH will deny and say Nash was bought off by Del Rio.

The best thing to do now would be for Nash NOT to be on Raw tonight. That will only add fuel to the fire that Nash screwed Punk for HHH and not for Del Rio. Del Rio can say that he let go of Nash because he had no more use for him like the arrogant heel that he is but everyone will speculate that Del Rio wasn't calling the shots in the first place. Have Del Rio take on Mysterio tonight without Nash's help.

It was a totally unexpected twist but it does appear to be a good one. I think that this will all lead to a slow build towards Punk vs HHH.

 

[PUNKforPresident]

I see a lot of other people making posts about "Legends" returning. WWE is smarter than that. Let's stick with the "Paul Heyman Theory" and only have one "Legend" (Kevin Nash) on the roster. I do agree that Nash should not be on Raw tonight. Tonights Raw should not reveal any answeres but further tell the story that all of us are talking about right now. Cena should question HHH on why he "didn't see" his leg on the rope. Cena has a case to argue that he got screwed. Have Punk bitch about Nash and question who was behind that. They really need to milk this storyline and tell this story slowly. Lately they've been rushing everything...maybe its because they have a PPV ever 25 days and its hard to build any matches.

 

[andres torti]

i think it was yet again a good PPV,with a lot of surprises and good matches.I think the WWE is winning over a lot of wrestling fans,and a lot of them who stopped watching it.It sayes a lot of Vince also,he is a genius in this business and he showing it again.And i´m glad that Kevin Nash is back,and also that he is using his name,i´m sure that almost everybody knows him more in that name then as Diesel.

 

[HorsemenNo4]

It was so good to see that Kevin Nash Powerbomb again. Dam you WWE for banning that move. Still looks awesome as ever.
Don't know where the storyline is going but I see some kind of stable forming to go up against Punk. Hopefully Nash returns full time, even as an enforcer like Rick Rude was in DX. No major ring time, but not really a manager either. Just being there is enough with a powerbomb on the right occasion lol.

 

[TheHeartBreakKidage]

I don't see Nash as just some guy in his 50's. I see an over 7' foot still built like a brick shithouse legend returning. Although, his wrestling role should be VERY limited.

As to why Nash came back.. The Kliq. That's why. He's back to help his buddy against the rebelious Punk. Triple H could not do it himself because as authority he needs to look professional. But of course he is in on it.

This might seem like a real long shot here.. but if WWE could carry this storyline out until next years Wrestlemania, with keeping the interest factor in there.. that would be great.

Have Punk and Nash at Survivor Series and then Punk and Triple H at Wrestlemania. It seems drawn out but Punk can always still compete to be Champion.

For Raw tonight.. I see, HHH telling Punk he was not in on it.. Del Rio and Rey should be pretty good too. Then the triple threat at Night Of Champions, Cena/Punk/Del Rio.

And just to clarify the other thing being said.. Del Rio should not be in alliance with HHH, Nash or Steph. Maybe they told him to go cash it in but it ends there. Del Rio does not fit in with that crowd.. he was just "sent" to go do a job one night only.