It was bound to happen sooner or later to be honest. Word going around was that Kev had been bitching about not having a spot on TV despite his successful Royal Rumble appearance. I honestly dont know where Kev fits into all of this but WWE has peiced more bullshit together in two months than they had in their entire history so I wouldnt be surprised if they found a spot for Nash somewhere in the mix. I'm happy he at least allowed Del Rio to cash in.
Conspiracy Storyline - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!
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streicher187
Getting Noticed By Management
After watching it would guess it will be revealed that Steph hired Nash Just in Case HHH let Punk Win which will lead to a power struggle between Steph and HHH.
Would be sweet if they run the Story vince was behind it and they keep having vets get involved in matches inc. Foley and have Vince behind the attacks to try and ruin HHH and get control back then you can set up a Wrestlemania of Vince with his vets vs HHH with his young guys would be an awesome mania card
Rock - Cena
Austin - punk
Jericho - Miz
Taker - Orton (orton the legend killer trying to kill the real legend)
HBK - Morrison
Lita/Trish vs Beth Phoenix/Hart
C Rhodes - Foley
Would be sweet if they run the Story vince was behind it and they keep having vets get involved in matches inc. Foley and have Vince behind the attacks to try and ruin HHH and get control back then you can set up a Wrestlemania of Vince with his vets vs HHH with his young guys would be an awesome mania card
Rock - Cena
Austin - punk
Jericho - Miz
Taker - Orton (orton the legend killer trying to kill the real legend)
HBK - Morrison
Lita/Trish vs Beth Phoenix/Hart
C Rhodes - Foley
The Future Rises
Thinking Of A New Name..
Don't you remember what happened? Cena had Punk won when Vinny and Johnny Ace hit the scene and tried to screw Punk causing a "distraction" to Cena for Punk to win. Even WWE.com had to mention that Cena was "distracted" before he lost.
I don't have a problem with Cena really. He's a very good worker. But he just needs to get a little time off from the title picture. Like when he feuded with The Miz back in 2009 that was a great program that would have given other guys a chance to be in the main event. But unfortunately Trips had to take that spot.
I don't know if Nash is back full time. But if he is then I would like to see him feud with some of the new guys to put them over. Apparently he's a heel. Maybe he can have a good program with Kofi to make him credible again.
Although I'm interested to see where this goes it is a worrying thing that, out of an event where ADR won his first WWE title, the big talking point is Kevin Nash. Dont get me wrong, it's interesting to see where they can go with Nash but, honestly, Nash doesn't really scream "fresh new talent" does he.
Still, I'll do what I do with TNA when they make a move that interests me but, initially, doesn't make sense...I'm going to enjoy seeing this all play out over the next few weeks then either love it or hate and slate it!
Still, I'll do what I do with TNA when they make a move that interests me but, initially, doesn't make sense...I'm going to enjoy seeing this all play out over the next few weeks then either love it or hate and slate it!
I don't know if Nash is going to be back and wrestling a lot of matches or if he is going to be in more of HHH role with an occasional match. I can pretty much guarantee he won't be fueding with low level mid carders like Kofi though. I would like to see Nash just make random run ins maybe occasionally and us not know his reasoning for doing what he did for a while.
But at the same time, I don't want 95 percent of Raw to be anti climatic storyline wise like it was after MITB.
Shoemeister
Dark Match Jobber
Personally, I'm hoping it turns out to be Stephanie who called in Nash to set up Del Rio. And I would have no problem with her being the anonymous GM, either.
Either way, I'm smelling a new Corporation of some sort - The Helmsley-McMahon era - with Hunter & Steph running the show, Nash as their right hand man, Johnny Ace as a goon and Del Rio as their Rocky. Factor in other possibilities like X-Pac and the opportunities to let younger, up and coming talent get some air time could (COULD) all add up for some of the best TV we've seen from WWE in some time.
That is, if they use their brain and do it right. We'll see. I hope they don't drop the ball because I'm very excited for RAW tomorrow night.
Either way, I'm smelling a new Corporation of some sort - The Helmsley-McMahon era - with Hunter & Steph running the show, Nash as their right hand man, Johnny Ace as a goon and Del Rio as their Rocky. Factor in other possibilities like X-Pac and the opportunities to let younger, up and coming talent get some air time could (COULD) all add up for some of the best TV we've seen from WWE in some time.
That is, if they use their brain and do it right. We'll see. I hope they don't drop the ball because I'm very excited for RAW tomorrow night.
theBusiness
Pre-Show Stalwart
oohhhh, i never thought of that.
makes perfect sense. hes mad at hunter for making decisions for him, taking away his power, etc, etc....so he takes matter into his own hands. I LIKE.
The Future Rises
Thinking Of A New Name..
That would be great. Add Ziggler and a young tag team like Otunga and McGillicutty and you would have a perfect stable right there. It would give younger talent some TV time as you stated. And get us the good old heel Triple H.
silverbullet
Dark Match Winner
Kevin Nash was great, but even better would of been jericho, It would of made much more sense, I don't see nash and steph returning full time, steph may explain her self on raw if that, Ill watch and see though.
I didn't read through all the response so Ill just post mine.
It was the def WTF moment of the year so far. There is not one person in the IWC that could have seen Nash coming back at that moment. WWE has been so predictable the last 10 years but since they started the CM Punk push its been WTF moments and I am loving it!!! I'm becoming a fan of the WWE again.
I hope Nash comes out to the ring and explains himself because I can only imagine the epic promo Punk will do on Nash.. Bring up WCW and maybe even TNA...
It was the def WTF moment of the year so far. There is not one person in the IWC that could have seen Nash coming back at that moment. WWE has been so predictable the last 10 years but since they started the CM Punk push its been WTF moments and I am loving it!!! I'm becoming a fan of the WWE again.
I hope Nash comes out to the ring and explains himself because I can only imagine the epic promo Punk will do on Nash.. Bring up WCW and maybe even TNA...
Corpse_Machine
"Vintage Since 1989"
Im just watching the match right now on a replay and i thought id spoil myself a little bit and well i must say i am shocked, its that shock factor that HHH has been talking about, nobody expected Nash to return.
I am kinda pissed at his even though its the rules of the MITB breifcase but really, Why Nash? It makes no sense he isnt even relevant anymore and is so unbelievably stiff in the ring that he needs to hang up his boots. Im not a hater but im also not an appreciater either, I would rather have maybe seen Nash take out HHH for some reason and Vince to come out in a Referees shirt and help Punk win it becuase Cena allready failed him at MITB, or he comes out with Alberto and have him cash in and be Vinces go to Heel guy as the WWE champ. Anythings better than a return that isnt gonna make a whole lot of sense no matter how u package it because no doubt Nash returned because HHH is paying him a lot of money or some other garbage line that a typical Nash would say.
I am kinda pissed at his even though its the rules of the MITB breifcase but really, Why Nash? It makes no sense he isnt even relevant anymore and is so unbelievably stiff in the ring that he needs to hang up his boots. Im not a hater but im also not an appreciater either, I would rather have maybe seen Nash take out HHH for some reason and Vince to come out in a Referees shirt and help Punk win it becuase Cena allready failed him at MITB, or he comes out with Alberto and have him cash in and be Vinces go to Heel guy as the WWE champ. Anythings better than a return that isnt gonna make a whole lot of sense no matter how u package it because no doubt Nash returned because HHH is paying him a lot of money or some other garbage line that a typical Nash would say.
I LOVE the dumbassery of some of the trolls on the internet. People get their panties in a bunch when WRESTLING fans come out and say they enjoyed a WRESTLING show. Maybe not everyone got their favourites on the show, or even had their favourites win... but mostly that happens on every show. Back when I first started watching there was always DQ & cloudy finishes, people getting screwed over, 'Deserving' people getting jobbed out. Its just the way of the business.
But last night was another step in the right direction for the 'E.
Some people have called it overbooking... I think it was awesome. Now at first I didn't really see why it ended the way it did, except for the fact that there were 15 minutes left on the clock and something had to give before the credits rolled. Was HHH gonna beat down Punk, was Alberto going to come down, was any of Punks ROH buddies going to enter the mix? Instead we get Nash, yeah he is old, but he looked awesome for what it was worth and I was shocked. New champion and HHH has, seemingly, no idea what is going on.
Is Nash working for HHH? Stephanie? Alberto? Himself? Who knows. Why did he do it. What does Cena think about Hunters poor officiating? Whats himself and Punk going to do about their rematches? What about Reys rematch on RAW? What about all the other contenders for the title who will want a piece of the action? Morrison, Miz, Truth, Kofi... they're all going to be wanting to jump in the title hunt.
What about Stephanie meeting with Cena and her husband before the match? Could all three of them been conspiring to take the title from Punk, but without having it look like Cena was putting his moral integrity on the line, thus still making him the 'Hustle, Loyalty & respect' Childrens champion AND therefore not breaking the bank on their corporate cash cow? You gotta think about all these things. Maybe Cena and HHH planned the foot on the ropes spot so Cena could lose the championship without looking bad and being able to call the 'questionable' decision into play.
But last night was another step in the right direction for the 'E.
Some people have called it overbooking... I think it was awesome. Now at first I didn't really see why it ended the way it did, except for the fact that there were 15 minutes left on the clock and something had to give before the credits rolled. Was HHH gonna beat down Punk, was Alberto going to come down, was any of Punks ROH buddies going to enter the mix? Instead we get Nash, yeah he is old, but he looked awesome for what it was worth and I was shocked. New champion and HHH has, seemingly, no idea what is going on.
Is Nash working for HHH? Stephanie? Alberto? Himself? Who knows. Why did he do it. What does Cena think about Hunters poor officiating? Whats himself and Punk going to do about their rematches? What about Reys rematch on RAW? What about all the other contenders for the title who will want a piece of the action? Morrison, Miz, Truth, Kofi... they're all going to be wanting to jump in the title hunt.
What about Stephanie meeting with Cena and her husband before the match? Could all three of them been conspiring to take the title from Punk, but without having it look like Cena was putting his moral integrity on the line, thus still making him the 'Hustle, Loyalty & respect' Childrens champion AND therefore not breaking the bank on their corporate cash cow? You gotta think about all these things. Maybe Cena and HHH planned the foot on the ropes spot so Cena could lose the championship without looking bad and being able to call the 'questionable' decision into play.
As much as I didn't want anything BUT CM Punk leaving with the Title, I'm VERY curious as to how this all unfolds...
Is Diesel back in his bodyguard role, this time for del Rio??
Or is he part of a larger plan behind Triple H's new regime??
I can't wait to hear some of CM Punk's new promos. I'm SURE he'll touch on the Kliq, Shawn Michaels, maybe even Hall's recent problems.... You KNOW putting the new and improved Punk on the mic following what happened is going to be good television for sure.
Is Diesel back in his bodyguard role, this time for del Rio??
Or is he part of a larger plan behind Triple H's new regime??
I can't wait to hear some of CM Punk's new promos. I'm SURE he'll touch on the Kliq, Shawn Michaels, maybe even Hall's recent problems.... You KNOW putting the new and improved Punk on the mic following what happened is going to be good television for sure.
itssoeasy123
Championship Contender
Maybe this was planned all along. Maybe Triple H saw Cena's foot on the rope, but made the count anymore. And, maybe him holding's Punks hand up and congratulating him after the match was to stall so Nash could run out?
Or, it was planned by Stephanie to make sure that CM Punk has no chance of leaving once again the WWE Champion, and took matters into her own hands? Remember CM Punk is basically the reason why Vince is no longer making the "day to day operations." He also bashed her and Triple H. Revenge possibly?
Maybe Nash was hired to be Del Rio's bodyguard? Maybe Nash just felt like beating the shit out of somebody for no reason? Maybe the Kliq is back together? Maybe this is one big conspiracy? Maybe Cena and Punk will join forces to take down the WWE management? Maybe Mysterio wins on RAW?
So many outcomes, once again were left with more questions than answers. That's why I love the WWE right now, unpredictability is key.
Or, it was planned by Stephanie to make sure that CM Punk has no chance of leaving once again the WWE Champion, and took matters into her own hands? Remember CM Punk is basically the reason why Vince is no longer making the "day to day operations." He also bashed her and Triple H. Revenge possibly?
Maybe Nash was hired to be Del Rio's bodyguard? Maybe Nash just felt like beating the shit out of somebody for no reason? Maybe the Kliq is back together? Maybe this is one big conspiracy? Maybe Cena and Punk will join forces to take down the WWE management? Maybe Mysterio wins on RAW?
So many outcomes, once again were left with more questions than answers. That's why I love the WWE right now, unpredictability is key.
Heavens Vibe
Pre-Show Stalwart
I think Kevin Nash may be played out as the RAW GM, hence the look of "suprise" all over HHH's face! Stephanie and the GM had to think of a way to remove both "controversial" champions and considering HHH removed Cena in his own way, Nash finished of Punk. New champion will allow them to carry on with their control rather than face anarchy from Punk. Just my thought but man what a suprise 
Great summerslam
Great summerslam
I'm glad WWE brought back Kevin Nash. I totally marked-out when he did, but should he really be Alberto's bodyguard? It would be a step-down for him, and the Kliq would be amazing if it returned, but whatever happens, he should not be a part of any World Title match. He is a great addition to the program, though.
I really hope RAW makes complete sense this week.
I really hope RAW makes complete sense this week.
TWJC: The Beginning
Royal Rumble Winner
I've never in my life heard that Nash is unbelievably stiff in the ring. Most people say he's unbelievably light. Where did you hear that? Nash is old school, he likes to get over doing as little as possible.
The return ISN'T SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE. If they tell you right away "o look, here comes nash with Vince/HHH/Del Rio, that's who's side he's on" then you have no reason to watch. No intrigue. Now you have questions. Is Nash on HHH's side? Vince's? ADR's? you have questions, you have things you want answered and the only way you get your questions answered is by tuning in to find out.
One thing I've noticed on these boards. Everytime, like when Punk came back after a week, after Nash coming back, soooo many of you want all the answers right now and you complain that you are confused as to why things are happening. If you knew everything, then why watch?
Also, a lot of people are complaining because they think Nash will be wrestling. Nash the person seems like the type of guy who likes to get paid and do as little physical activity as possible. I really doubt he'll be in a title match anytime soon.
wwe fan2009
Pre-Show Stalwart
I dont think Nash is with Del Rio, I think hes with HHH. Since HHH cant fight anyone like Punk he hired Nash to take out the people he doesnt like.
dperez2006_24
Dark Match Winner
all i got to say is that my guess is that either Punk or cena get involved with the WWE title match and Rey gets the starp till Night of champions that will be a fatal 4 way were either Cena or Punk get the belt...if punk wins he will have it until Survior series were John Cena vs the Rock gets started or...Cena goes on another year long title reign beating everyone till the rock dethrones him at wrestlemania and only holds the belt for a month tops....Can you say Punk vs Rock..the next 6 months is going to be great for us and I will just sit back and watch..or wait Im going to be at Raw tonight since its in the 619!!!
EdgeLives_4evr
Dark Match Jobber
This may have already been posted but I think it was Stephanie and this could be the begining of really big rivalry leading to Wrestlemania. It could be those in support of Vince (Nash, Stephanie, maybe Alberto, Cena) and those in support of triple h (punk and whoever else they get in this). Though if this is the thing it seems way to similar to wwf wcw thing they had goin on like 10 years ago.
The Man Of 1004 Holds
Occasional Pre-Show
This is Brilliant
I'm a CM Punk guy and i'm happy Nash cost him the gold as it opens up so many possibillities of who is with who and why.
the way i see it going down is Nash will be revealed to be with Stephanie going AGAINST HHH. the reason is she is pissed that the board picked HHH to be COO istead of her when she rightfull deserves it. after all she is a McMahon.
I also think del rio is not involved with them but was more right place right time right briefcase. he will lose to rey tonight on raw. they will feud in mexico and at night of champions it will be a fatal 4 way with punk cena rey and del rio. with the power struggle thrown in as there is going to be alot of you screwed me and your with them accusations by punk and cena at HHH. im hopefull this thing can go along time, even past survivor series all the way to mania. and id love to see Miz and r-truth involved with Truth saying he told everyone there was a conspiracy that would make for a great promo.
I'm a CM Punk guy and i'm happy Nash cost him the gold as it opens up so many possibillities of who is with who and why.
the way i see it going down is Nash will be revealed to be with Stephanie going AGAINST HHH. the reason is she is pissed that the board picked HHH to be COO istead of her when she rightfull deserves it. after all she is a McMahon.
I also think del rio is not involved with them but was more right place right time right briefcase. he will lose to rey tonight on raw. they will feud in mexico and at night of champions it will be a fatal 4 way with punk cena rey and del rio. with the power struggle thrown in as there is going to be alot of you screwed me and your with them accusations by punk and cena at HHH. im hopefull this thing can go along time, even past survivor series all the way to mania. and id love to see Miz and r-truth involved with Truth saying he told everyone there was a conspiracy that would make for a great promo.
That is the most mind numbingly hypocritical thing I've ever seen in my life. You're talking about Punk bitching about the IWC jumping to conclusions when they see something they don't like? You say just shut up and watch? Well I think Punk also criticised the fans who watch regardless of how good or bad the product is. So, yes, we should stop watching when we're watching something we don't like. That's the fun of freedom. It doesn't matter anyway because 99.9% of those bitching will tune in tonight. Get over it, you angry, angry man.
As for the angle, I'm not sure about it. I did want to Punk to go away with the title, but this adds more questions and an extra dimension to the angle. It's about to become a lot bigger than Cena vs Punk to decide the WWE champion. It's well known by wrestling fans that Kevin Nash is an absolute ****e for money, he'll do anything. Both Del Rio and the McMahons have plenty of money, so the question is who is he working for? Or is he working for both? If this is done properly and it's still enthralling by Night of Champions, I'll be a happy camper. But until I see Raw tonight, I'm on the fence.
jackson-lowe
no gimmicks needed
I'm sure all will be explained, just in due time.
RAW... I'm that keen. This really has built interest for the viewer, you know Punk is going to have an awesome monologue on the mic, as well as a confrontation with Del Rio and maybe Nash.
Punk will take the 'up against the world' angle hopefully and take on Nash and the establishment (that's who I assume Nash has aligned with) and hopefully get over on them and move up in the ranks of the company
RAW... I'm that keen. This really has built interest for the viewer, you know Punk is going to have an awesome monologue on the mic, as well as a confrontation with Del Rio and maybe Nash.
Punk will take the 'up against the world' angle hopefully and take on Nash and the establishment (that's who I assume Nash has aligned with) and hopefully get over on them and move up in the ranks of the company
