The Triple H Thread

[The Champ is here]

2008 was Triple H second best year of his career.

I'am a Triple H fan but........Damn The Guy is too domiant for an era that he shouldn't be domiant in.
For Example January He made it too the the Final 2 at Royal Rumble, Feb-won the Chamber match over Hardy. WM- Never got pinned but almost beat Cena. April-May fuckin domiant on Smackdown. June- Beat Cena retain title, June Beat Randy Orton for title. July- Beat Edge for retain title, Auguest- Beats Great Khali for retain title, Sep- Beats 4 other Men in a 5 for all to retain title, Oct beats Hardy for retain title, November beats Undertaker, December loses title but was never pined.

HHH beat Jeff Hardy, John Cena, Edge, Great Khali, Undertaker, Randy Orton. and Got too the Final 2 at Royal Rumble, won The elimation chamber match and Went to Wrestlemaina in the mainevent.

Need I say More?!!!!

 

[666_The_Game_666]

2008 was Triple H second best year of his career.

I'am a Triple H fan but........Damn The Guy is too domiant for an era that he shouldn't be domiant in.
For Example January He made it too the the Final 2 at Royal Rumble, Feb-won the Chamber match over Hardy. WM- Never got pinned but almost beat Cena. April-May fuckin domiant on Smackdown. June- Beat Cena retain title, June Beat Randy Orton for title. July- Beat Edge for retain title, Auguest- Beats Great Khali for retain title, Sep- Beats 4 other Men in a 5 for all to retain title, Oct beats Hardy for retain title, November beats Undertaker, December loses title but was never pined.

HHH beat Jeff Hardy, John Cena, Edge, Great Khali, Undertaker, Randy Orton. and Got too the Final 2 at Royal Rumble, won The elimation chamber match and Went to Wrestlemaina in the mainevent.

Need I say More?!!!!

well i guess this shows why Triple H was voted in the top 3 performers by PWI for 2008 behind Orton and Angle

 

[RKOking]

Hi, look was watching RAW on today and since they showed an advertisement for the upcoming RAW New Zealand tour on NZ TV and a match was being advertised for Triple H and John Cena vs Big Show and Randy Orton (without the WWE championship maybe hinting he may lose it soon possibly to Batista ) scheduled for July 3rd which would say he will be returning the week before at Night of Champions or earlier so not at Summerslam.

 

[SJP315]

well i guess this shows why Triple H was voted in the top 3 performers by PWI for 2008 behind Orton and Angle

PWI has been relegated to nothing more than a "dirt sheet" just bc they rank a guy in their top 5 doesn't mean their the best 5 in the business. They make those rankings based on their wins/loses for the year and high priority feuds not I repeat NOT based on their wrestling and performance ability in the ring or actual talent. If it was based on pure talent and quality of matches the top 15 would look something like this;

This is in no paticular order just writting the names as I think of them.

Kurt Angle
Christian
AJ Styles
CM Punk
Samoa Joe
HBK
Christopher Daniels
Chris Jericho
Alex Shelly
Chris Sabin
Shelton
Jeff Hardy
Randy Orton
Bryan Danielson (RoH)
Nigel McGuiness (RoH)

HHH would be nowhere near the top 5 on this list and prob would be lucky if he made a top 20. Minus Angle these are all pretty YOUNG guys who are extremely talented in the ring and on the mic and don't get enough credit at all those my friends are what a Top WRESTLERS key word WRESTLERS List should look like.

 

[JETER123]

The thing about Triple H is that I don't hate or love him...I guess that is probably a bigger insult then hating him all together.

In the late 90's, HHH wasn't even in the top 5. Austin, Rock, Foley, Kane, and Undertaker were all better then him. Those 5 were definitely more popular then him. With the arrivals of Jericho, Angle, Benoit, RVD, Guererro, Big Show, Lesnar, and Booker T, it became pretty crowded at the top.

Austin and the Rock carried the WWE from 1998-2002. As soon as they left, wrestling went down hill. Triple H's wrestling star power just wasn't and isn't bright enough.

Oh, and out of those 14 wrestlers that are arguably the biggest stars in the WWE in the last 10 years, only 5 of them are in the WWE still.

 

[Mantaur Rodeo Clown]

Finally, Triple H has COME BACK! to RAW!

So after the fans turned on him at backlash, I thought heel HHH was on the horizon (boo yeah, alliteration) but I guess it's sticking to face until the inevitable grudge match with Orton at Summerslam.

 

[tLight]

and now that Triple H is back the summer is ruined for any real wrestling fans.
Its back to the Triple H and Sledge show. I dont think him coming back as a heel would of helped, some guys just need to step out of the spot light and let the younger talent step up. HBK's and Taker have been doing it for the past few years, why cant Triple H? Why not help ensure the future of the WWE, rather than boost your already unneedly large title wins? No one wants to see him beat Flairs record, becaue no one really wants to see him.

 

[rkopaton]

and now that Triple H is back the summer is ruined for any real wrestling fans.
Its back to the Triple H and Sledge show. I dont think him coming back as a heel would of helped, some guys just need to step out of the spot light and let the younger talent step up. HBK's and Taker have been doing it for the past few years, why cant Triple H? Why not help ensure the future of the WWE, rather than boost your already unneedly large title wins? No one wants to see him beat Flairs record, becaue no one really wants to see him.

couldn't agree more, he is outdated, hasn't changed his gimmick in nearly 10 years and always finds a way out of looking weak to others. He didn't want to lose the title to Jeff Hardy so Edge got it for a month so Jeff would win it off him and instead of losing his title in a normal match like everyone else he loses it in a tag match. He ruined Umaga's career in 2007. HHH will win the title back son and talk about how he is the game and is the best and then he will lose it in fatal 15 way so he doesn't look bad

 

[nthomas504]

I think it high time the WWE calls his gimmick off to be honest. And I have the perfect set up for it as well. He loses the title at some point, and tries to get it back, fails, and as he tries to become a #1 Contender again, he gets farther and farther away from the championship. This keeps him away from the title, and since his name really can't be tarnished by a few loses, it won't hurt anyone, and will help the person who keeps preventing him from becoming champion (RKO). He becomes so pressed from the fact that he can't win and he becomes a ruthless, psychotic, merciless, warrior, and make him a heel. This way, we have a little freshness added to a stale character. My idea for Cena's staleness is coming up.

I really can't complain about his position in the Bash next Sunday. If not him then who else. Vince wouldn't give away his prize Summerslam Match (Cena Vs Orton) away for the Bash. Would you rather see Ted Vs Randy, Miz Vs Randy, MVP Vs Randy. Maybe a couple of smarks would love to see that, but WWE fans wouldn't like that any bit. If you notice last Monday, Triple H got the best Crowd Reaction of the night (excusing Jeff Hardy) on Raw, so anyone else wouldnt belong in the main event yet. Hell, we might see a match at NOC. People keep complaining, but really, what other options do we have.

 

[RockFan89]

While watching the first match of RAW last night I was so irritated by the way HHH won a fairly quick match against MVP. HHH just had a last man standing match and a three stages of hell match against the WWE champ. I hear this said about Cena, but Cena made Miz look good last night and I've seen him do that to others as well. But HHH just continues to look like he can only be beaten when 3 guys jump him from behind, and even then it looks like he could still win. When you juxtapose HHH with any other wrestler, except maybe Cena, it looks like the only way he can be beat is by cheating. The whole avenging my family gimmick has faded away so why is he still so dominant? Any thoughts?

 

[Mark0820]

It pissed me off. He no sold the leg after the match too. They made a point of the leg being injured from 3 Stages of Hell, MVP working on it and then after the match HHH is walking around not even favoring the leg. If he won with a quick roll up, fine, but don't hit one move and win after MVP is working your leg. The Pedigree should have hurt his leg more.

 

[Fishburger]

I am so sick to death of Triple H now I cannot stand to watch him wrestle. He will never put anyone over and he always has to be centre of attention and all because he's fucking the bosses daughter.

He's too old to look so dominant he needs to take a step back and sell his injuries more because lets face it with the current roster of WWE wrestlers hes practically an old man.

 

[tastytimmy]

He is the Husband of the Chairman's Daughter, the Father of the Chairman's Grandchildren. He is a McMahon.

They should start calling him double HM.

In all reality, he is extremely boring, however, he wrestles extremely well. Thats what it is about. I can promise if there were some real talent in wrestling that we would not see the endless Triple H push.

I would recommend some people watch TNA. It is starting to remind me of WCW in the early years. The product is growing increasingly more interesting, and they have some extremely talented wrestlers. They also have some older guys that are giving younger guys pushes.

Thats my opinion, take it for what its worth.

Timmy!

 

[ThePeoplesRKO]

While watching the first match of RAW last night I was so irritated by the way HHH won a fairly quick match against MVP. But HHH just continues to look like he can only be beaten when 3 guys jump him from behind, and even then it looks like he could still win. When you juxtapose HHH with any other wrestler, except maybe Cena, it looks like the only way he can be beat is by cheating. The whole avenging my family gimmick has faded away so why is he still so dominant? Any thoughts?

I agree with this to some extend. Yeah its true it made me mad last night watching triple h act like nothing after the pedigree and beating mvp the way he did. But triple h has also pushed people. Best example cena. He lost cleanly to him at wrestlemania. But you already said cena. Another example is jericho. Not as much but sometimes and at one point even for the title. But its tru triple h sometimes does take it too far and completely burries a superstar.

I hear this said about Cena, but Cena made Miz look good last night and I've seen him do that to others as well.?

Cena did not make the miz look good at all last night. I mean yeah the miz beat him senseless for 20 minutes and all just to have john cena come back and beat him in less than 2. To make someone look good you have to be able to prove that not only can they dish it out but they can take it as well. Cena hit miz with about 5 or 6 moves total and got the win after miz had destroyed him for 20 mins. IMO this made the miz look weak to the point where it shows that the miz cant really take hits. If the match had gone back and forth a lot and showed that they both completely tore each other apart, but the miz had more of an upper hand, it would have made the miz look even better no it would have made him look great. It would prove that he could hang witht he big names. of course not beat cena but still hang with him. Last night just made cena look better IMO. So dont kill me for saying this but it was only IMO.

 

[Loveless]

I've no problem with HHH making himself look good, my problem with him is he practically never does it for anyone else, certainly not anyone who needs it. Who was the last mid-carder he put over? I believe it was Shelton about 5 years ago.

 

[Paradox]

While watching the first match of RAW last night I was so irritated by the way HHH won a fairly quick match against MVP. HHH just had a last man standing match and a three stages of hell match against the WWE champ. I hear this said about Cena, but Cena made Miz look good last night and I've seen him do that to others as well. But HHH just continues to look like he can only be beaten when 3 guys jump him from behind, and even then it looks like he could still win. When you juxtapose HHH with any other wrestler, except maybe Cena, it looks like the only way he can be beat is by cheating. The whole avenging my family gimmick has faded away so why is he still so dominant? Any thoughts?

Did you watch the same match that I did? Triple h had absolutely now offense. MVP dominated the whole match and look really well in the process. He went after the Game's leg, and worked over an injury, he even put on a figure four leg lock. Which was amazing. If any one was Dominate in last night match between those two it was MVP. Trips only offense was countering into the pedigree. If you want MVP to kick out of that, then your being ridiculous. Yes it was a quicker match then Cena Miz, but come on. MVP looked really good, better then he has since his first couple of week on Raw.

 

[OIL]

I'm not usually one to have a go at Triple H, but I was dissapointed too. Last night, I was expecting HHH to help put MVP over as a solid wrestler, who could push onto the main event scene. However, it wasn't the case at all.

I remember Cena vs Swagger on RAW, I think it may have been the draft. Cena made Swagger look very, very impressive. In my eyes, Swagger looked a real contender and I'm sure the fans are going to remember that. Why HHH couldn't give MVP the same treatment, I don't know. Heck, HHH was injured but still made it look partly simple.

 

[BigDaddyDawg]

For anyone who knows anything about the WWE's inner workings, the answer is easy - nepotism.

Yes, we know Trips married into the family. That, IMO, is the main reason he's always booked to go over or be in the main-event picture. He is a great wrestler and great character on-screen, and I'm sure he's a nice guy in person. But, he's a corporate ladder climber, plain and simple.

I used to be a big Trips fan, especially back in the DX days. He was gold on the microphone and a great in-ring performer. But, that was 10 years ago. Since then, his in-ring ability has visibly diminished. We all know he's been pushing for a front-office job for a long time now, getting involved in creative and such. He's been known to bury guys he didn't like, push his buddies and make himself look good if at all possible. Marrying the boss' daughter gave him that much more power to do that.

IMO, Trips is the Hulk Hogan of this generation. Not that he is the larger-than-life face of the industry that people relate to and flock to see when he comes to town.... but the aging brown-noser that thinks that because he is such a big star, he simply can't afford to fail or look bad. So he'll continue to hold on to his top spot and be booked over on people when he should be looking to set up the new generation.

 

[mikeRC]

I don't get it either honestly. HHH should be in the same position as Michaels in that wins and losses no longer mean anything to their fan support yet Triple H is always winning.

It's probably because he's a face now and sees it as a job for heels to make him look good. When HHH was a heel he put over a lot of guys but as a face i can't remember him putting anyone over except maybe Shelton who he made look like gold in a match on Smackdown either in early 2009 or late 2008.

i've got a good question to ask though. When was the last time HHH lost clean? when was the last time someone hit their finisher on him (without interference) and pinned him or made him tap?

 

[Paradox]

Cena did not make the miz look good at all last night. I mean yeah the miz beat him senseless for 20 minutes and all just to have john cena come back and beat him in less than 2. To make someone look good you have to be able to prove that not only can they dish it out but they can take it as well. Cena hit miz with about 5 or 6 moves total and got the win after miz had destroyed him for 20 mins. IMO this made the miz look weak to the point where it shows that the miz cant really take hits. If the match had gone back and forth a lot and showed that they both completely tore each other apart, but the miz had more of an upper hand, it would have made the miz look even better no it would have made him look great. It would prove that he could hang witht he big names. of course not beat cena but still hang with him. Last night just made cena look better IMO. So dont kill me for saying this but it was only IMO.

Are you insane? Cena made The Miz look great. How in the world do you look weak if you destroy the face of the company for 20 minutes? He did the same thing for Swagger in April. He made both of these men look great. Last night was the best thing that could have happen to Miz, he looked tough, and he was able to hang with Cena. Oh and those moves that you said Miz can't take. Are the same moves that put Triple h, Randy Orton, Edge, Chris Jericho, Big Show, JBL, down for the three count. So if The Miz look's like he can't take hits neither can any of them.

My question is do you know what it is to give some one the rub? It can be done without losing. I don't know why everything thinks that if you want to give someone the rub they have to win. That's not the case at all. Cena knows this. That's why as of late he has been the best at making people look good. Last night was just another example of that. Miz dominated, Cena got the wins. Miz in the end will move up. Not move backwards. There is a reason that he was in a program with the best in the company.

 

[Coco]

I was pretty pissed about this myself. I hate MVP and Triple H, but they were actually having a decent match up until the finish with the leg work and Triple H warning him not to do it. Personally, I'd rather have not seen MVP get destroyed by one move after that strong of a showing. A quick roll-up for Triple H to get the win would have been enough under the circumstances followed by a show of sportsmanship after the match. That outcome could have accomplished much more while having the exact same winner. It was a pretty awful way to see the finish go down the way it did.

But hey, at least we know one move won't work next week. It's time for one of the WWE's epic finisher-kickout riddled main event level clashes of the titans. Yay. I wonder if this will give Michaels-Taker a run for its money in that department. But yeah, Hunter won't be making his next opponent look weak.

 

[ThePeoplesRKO]

Are you insane? Cena made The Miz look great. How in the world do you look weak if you destroy the face of the company for 20 minutes? He did the same thing for Swagger in April. He made both of these men look great. Last night was the best thing that could have happen to Miz, he looked tough, and he was able to hang with Cena. Oh and those moves that you said Miz can't take. Are the same moves that put Triple h, Randy Orton, Edge, Chris Jericho, Big Show, JBL, down for the three count. So if The Miz look's like he can't take hits neither can any of them.

My question is do you know what it is to give some one the rub? It can be done without losing. I don't know why everything thinks that if you want to give someone the rub they have to win. That's not the case at all. Cena knows this. That's why as of late he has been the best at making people look good. Last night was just another example of that. Miz dominated, Cena got the wins. Miz in the end will move up. Not move backwards. There is a reason that he was in a program with the best in the company.

whoa whoa hold up chill. Lets start from the top ok. Miz did destroy cena for 20 minutes but cena put him away in less than 2 without hitting him as much. Its really all about bookings cuz cena is made to be superman like. Dont start arguin about this cuz its true everyone knows it and if you do this argument will never end. My biggest thing with cena is his superman booking statues. A good fight between miz and cena going back and forth beating the hell out of each other would have been better. Don get me wrong read my post well and youll see i even said i did not want the miz beating cena and was not expecting him to. i know what is is to give someone the rub ok. Many superstars have done it over the years. And like i said miz did not have to win to look good.You dont have to win to look good in the end. Bottom line is miz could have looked better but still ended up looking good. That was my main point.

 

[Paradox]

whoa whoa hold up chill. Lets start from the top ok. Miz did destroy cena for 20 minutes but cena put him away in less than 2 without hitting him as much. Its really all about bookings cuz cena is made to be superman like. Dont start arguin about this cuz its true everyone knows it and if you do this argument will never end. My biggest thing with cena is his superman booking statues. A good fight between miz and cena going back and forth beating the hell out of each other would have been better. Don get me wrong read my post well and youll see i even said i did not want the miz beating cena and was not expecting him to. i know what is is to give someone the rub ok. Many superstars have done it over the years. And like i said miz did not have to win to look good.You dont have to win to look good in the end. Bottom line is miz could have looked better but still ended up looking good. That was my main point.

No i understand what you said, I just disagree at this point. I think that they are building Miz up to that level. Last night was perfect for what he's been doing. He got in a couple of cheap shots and then went into beating Cena for 20 minutes. That's why I think that Miz looked better by dominating Cena of a majority of the match. As that is the basic concept between heel face match up. Heel get a cheap shot and then is going to dominate the majority of the match up. Anyway we both agree that he looked good last night.

 

[People's Champ]

Don't wana disturb this back and forth but I believe hhh has been around now an no matter what people think he still gets big pops..so they are going to book him to look great..

 

[SinCityBlitz]

I'm not usually one to have a go at Triple H, but I was dissapointed too. Last night, I was expecting HHH to help put MVP over as a solid wrestler, who could push onto the main event scene. However, it wasn't the case at all.

I remember Cena vs Swagger on RAW, I think it may have been the draft. Cena made Swagger look very, very impressive. In my eyes, Swagger looked a real contender and I'm sure the fans are going to remember that. Why HHH couldn't give MVP the same treatment, I don't know. Heck, HHH was injured but still made it look partly simple.

First thing first, MVP is just not that good. Why they are going to even bother with a push is beyond me. Well I know why he's getting the push but he doesn't deserve it. Besides HHH vs Cena will bring in viewers while Cena vs MVP will not.

Second, Cena didn't make Swagger look good. Swagger made Swagger look good. Swagger has been putting on good matches before Cena. The guy is the future.