Survivor 31

[Da Prophet]

If Wentworth is in the end with any of the girls she destroys them. Including Tash. Hell at this point I'd say she can beat Jeremy. Spencer is the only one left who can beat her I think.

Then again Jeremy probably could off playing the firefighter expecting a kid card. But Wentworth has played better than him.

Nobody beats Jeremy.

Firefighter who has a wife that's pregnant with his son is not going to lose. They'll never award a million dollars to anybody other than Jeremy.

Without that stuff he gets Savage, Stephen, Wiglesworth, Keith (assuming he gets voted off). I doubt he makes the final but he's got it won if he does.

Wentworth is the player that has the wide open path to the finish and should easily win the game against Abi and Kimmi. Though Kimmi gets Wiglesworth's vote no matter what. Jeremy has the hardest path to the finish but wins no matter who he faces.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

Yeah if he plays that card he wins. But do you agree Wentworth is playing better so far?

 

[Da Prophet]

Wentworth is playing great for someone on the bottom. She's never really been in a position of power throughout the entire game but now she is and this is going to be the test to determine how good a player she is. Her path is the most obvious. Wentworth needs to convince the women to vote together and then she takes out Tasha. That's it. If Wentworth does that than she wins. I don't see how Abi or Kimmi can beat her.

Is she playing better than Jeremy? Wentworth lost some of her strongest allies but so did Jeremy. Jeremy however has been at the top for so long. He's had control over the game and Wentworth has been reacting for most of it. I wouldn't say she's playing better than Jeremy because one has been at the top and the other has been on the bottom for the entire game.

If Wentworth sits next to Jeremy he can argue that he had control for the entire game with the exception of a few votes that involved an idol and a blindside of his strongest ally but they never came after him. Wentworth has been struggling to get to a position of power and even next week she's still not the most important power player in the game. Tasha is the most important person next week. Wentworth has got to secure Tasha's vote and that'll decide for me just how good she is. If this were Boston Rob he would get to the end. If it's Tony he gets to the end. If it's Kim then she gets to the end.

It's much like Tony vs. Spencer. One had control the entire time while the other had to fight to stay alive. Who is the better player?

 

[A11oftheLights]

Nobody has really played well. Its been all over the shop, with no clear strategy. Just 'oh nah I feel like voting this person off' without any real idea of what the next move is. Its allowed wentworth to kind of sneak under the radar a little bit, as in she's made moves but hasnt looked like the major manipulator because individuals in the majority think it was the time to make their move. Plus she had Cierra to shield her for a little bit as well

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I'm not sure who wins this. I don't expect Abi, Kimmi or Keith to win but who knows. I could certainly see Tasha beat Kelly. Tasha is more mature and likeable than Kelly. These may be returning players but some of them respect the social aspect of the game and are not simply going to vote for the best player left. Kelly"s smug attitude came out yesterday, if this is something that others notice, she may become someone others don't want to give a million bucks

I'm pretty sure if I were on the jury I would vote for the person I hated least. Not who supposedly played the game best. Any one else have thoughts on that?

 

[A11oftheLights]

I'm not sure who wins this. I don't expect Abi, Kimmi or Keith to win but who knows. I could certainly see Tasha beat Kelly. Tasha is more mature and likeable than Kelly. These may be returning players but some of them respect the social aspect of the game and are not simply going to vote for the best player left. Kelly"s smug attitude came out yesterday, if this is something that others notice, she may become someone others don't want to give a million bucks

I'm pretty sure if I were on the jury I would vote for the person I hated least. Not who supposedly played the game best. Any one else have thoughts on that?

There will be some people like that and others that aren't. However, even those that say they are basing it on how the game was played would still be influenced emotionally because human beings are subjective by nature

 

[Akhilleus]

Nobody beats Jeremy.

Firefighter who has a wife that's pregnant with his son is not going to lose. They'll never award a million dollars to anybody other than Jeremy.

Without that stuff he gets Savage, Stephen, Wiglesworth, Keith (assuming he gets voted off). I doubt he makes the final but he's got it won if he does.

Wentworth is the player that has the wide open path to the finish and should easily win the game against Abi and Kimmi. Though Kimmi gets Wiglesworth's vote no matter what. Jeremy has the hardest path to the finish but wins no matter who he faces.

I still bet money Jeremy makes the final three and wins. Nobody has even talked about targeting him yet, and he still has an immunity idol. I wouldn't be surprised to see this Jeremy, Spencer, Tasha final three plan come 100% true.

Also, I don't know why Joe was such a threat to everyone. He doesn't beat Jeremy, Spencer, or Kelley in the final three. He wins immunity challenges, that's about it. If Spencer and Jeremy aren't in the final three, their mistake was not getting rid of Kelley soon enough.

Also Kimmi screwed her own game up their episode. Remember when she flipped on Monica because she wanted an all girls alliance? Now Kimmi does it herself.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Also Kimmi screwed her own game up their episode. Remember when she flipped on Monica because she wanted an all girls alliance? Now Kimmi does it herself.

Thats because it makes more sense now then it did then. Way back Monica was already thinking about ditching her alliance down the line for an all girls alliance, so Kimmi got rid of her because she wasnt loyal. However, now there is no alliances so Kimmi got herself into one (maybe)

 

[Da Prophet]

I still bet money Jeremy makes the final three and wins. Nobody has even talked about targeting him yet, and he still has an immunity idol. I wouldn't be surprised to see this Jeremy, Spencer, Tasha final three plan come 100% true.

An idol he'll most likely have to play next week.

I can't see him making the final three.

 

[info62]

I am Beyond sick of them talking about Jeremy's damn baby and Spencer's emotional epiphany on the show. Fully rooting for Kelley now. Nobody else has a chance to win over those 2. I think Tasha would be seen as their lackey at this point, even though I do not agree.

That said if Jeremy makes the final 3 he deserves to win.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

The fact that people have been talking shit to Wentworth on twitter for not picking Jeremy for the reward (when she said she had no idea his wife was pregnant at the time or else she would've picked him) and for voting out Joe and being happy about it is just hilarious.

 

[Akhilleus]

The fact that people have been talking shit to Wentworth on twitter for not picking Jeremy for the reward (when she said she had no idea his wife was pregnant at the time or else she would've picked him) and for voting out Joe and being happy about it is just hilarious.

I always believe in those situations they should pick husband and wife couples first.

But it really doesn't matter, if Jeremy wanted to spend more time with his wife then he should have won the challenge simply enough. Kelley has a right to pick who she wants to pick.

If anything it would have been smarter to bring Tasha with her and secure that alliance. Leaving her secluded out of it is what planted the seeds for Jeremy, Tasha, and Spencer getting together. Now all they need to do is tell Keith about the all girls plan and take out each of them one by one. Hopefully, they take out Kelley first before she realizes Tasha isn't on her side and uses her idol.

Also how about the fact that Keith voted for Tasha, did anybody else find that odd? I mean he had to of known the plan was to vote for Joe. Was he doing it just as a backup plan in case Joe had an idol? My theory is he and Joe were closer than the cameras showed and he promised Joe he wouldn't write his name down and was man enough to honor that.

 

[Da Prophet]

Never ever win the family visit challenge.

That's basic Survivor along with never take the map and always answer yourself during the Q&A challenge for most honest.

Edit: Take your chance and don't win the final immunity. 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 25, 28 and 29 all end with the person who wins the final immunity being the loser. Never win back to back final immunity challenges in two seasons either as it never works out. #greatestofalltiiiiiiiime.

 

[A11oftheLights]

always answer yourself during the Q&A challenge for most honest.

why

 

[Blade]

Nobody has really played well. Its been all over the shop, with no clear strategy. Just 'oh nah I feel like voting this person off' without any real idea of what the next move is. Its allowed wentworth to kind of sneak under the radar a little bit, as in she's made moves but hasnt looked like the major manipulator because individuals in the majority think it was the time to make their move. Plus she had Cierra to shield her for a little bit as well

Jeremy is playing a pretty excellent game. Probably the best game since Denise back in Season 25. If he can quash the attempted #divasrevolution that'll be coming up next week, he'll be golden. I mean, he's got enough jury votes locked up already, and he hasn't been targeted once. That's what I would call a great game. The only real mistake I think he made was playing an idol for Stephen, and even that didn't backfire as badly as it could've, and he seems to have completely earned Spencer's trust back after using Stephen as the fall guy. Magnificent, really

Jeremy's on track to beat Spencer and Tasha 7-3-0, or 8-2-0.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Jeremy is playing a pretty excellent game. Probably the best game since Denise back in Season 25. If he can quash the attempted #divasrevolution that'll be coming up next week, he'll be golden. I mean, he's got enough jury votes locked up already, and he hasn't been targeted once. That's what I would call a great game. The only real mistake I think he made was playing an idol for Stephen, and even that didn't backfire as badly as it could've, and he seems to have completely earned Spencer's trust back after using Stephen as the fall guy. Magnificent, really

Jeremy's on track to beat Spencer and Tasha 7-3-0, or 8-2-0.

While I agree with that, my point was nobody has taken over the game and said "this is mine" everyone has kind of just sat back and had a few close allies and hoped for the best. Its probably helped Jeremy's game because its made others not view him as a control freak and want him out but its now left him in a spot where he could very easily be out in the next two votes

 

[Da Prophet]

Jeremy is playing a pretty excellent game. Probably the best game since Denise back in Season 25. If he can quash the attempted #divasrevolution that'll be coming up next week, he'll be golden. I mean, he's got enough jury votes locked up already, and he hasn't been targeted once. That's what I would call a great game. The only real mistake I think he made was playing an idol for Stephen, and even that didn't backfire as badly as it could've, and he seems to have completely earned Spencer's trust back after using Stephen as the fall guy. Magnificent, really

Jeremy's on track to beat Spencer and Tasha 7-3-0, or 8-2-0.

If you're Jeremy do you tell people during the final tribal council that your wife is pregnant?

 

[A11oftheLights]

If you're Jeremy do you tell people during the final tribal council that your wife is pregnant?

I wouldnt try and force it in but if the chance was there (e.g they get asked "why was having a second chance at winning survivor important to you?") then definitely. It could still come across as looking to exploit your wife's pregnancy but not as bad as putting out there with no context.

 

[Blade]

While I agree with that, my point was nobody has taken over the game and said "this is mine" everyone has kind of just sat back and had a few close allies and hoped for the best. Its probably helped Jeremy's game because its made others not view him as a control freak and want him out but its now left him in a spot where he could very easily be out in the next two votes

I think it's because people who take over the game in All-Stars seasons never win. They may get to the end, but Boston Rob and Russell lost when they controlled the whole post-merge in All-Stars and HvV respectively. People tend to be more bitter in All-Stars because their egos are much bigger. Though the Second Chances jury seems relatively chill so far, Savage and Kass notwithstanding

If you're Jeremy do you tell people during the final tribal council that your wife is pregnant?

That's tough. Is it possible to bring it up without making it sound like an obvious ploy for jury votes? I think I wouldn't mention it. Jeremy has already done enough to win, and I think using the pregnancy to appeal to the jury might lose some of the more cynical jurors, like Kass.

 

[Da Prophet]

So can anyone dispute that Spencer is shit at Survivor?

From the preview for the finale "first time in 31 seasons" I'm thinking we get a double idol play at final five for Wentworth and Jeremy. They're the only two who receive votes, 3-2 split, and therefore all votes from the first vote are negated.

That would mean 3 out of 5 would be immune from the vote. Only leaves two people, so somebody would go home on the revote who never received a single vote the in the first vote. That would be a first since on the revote you can only vote for people who received votes in the original go around.

Could be totally wrong. Might happen at final 6 which is basically the same thing with a people being voted on on the revote who never received a vote in the original tribal council vote.

So much hyped for the finale. 3 out of the 6 have a real shot at winning and you might even throw Tasha in their if you want to make it 4/6. If Wentworth wins it further proves that a female who wasn't the biggest personality or seen as a threat during their first season will always win All-Stars.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

My first thought was a tie at the final tribal council.

Tasha calling Wentworth a goat was hilarious when Wentworth has played one of the best games this season. Also Spencer and Abi (assuming she's the one who voted Keith) are morons for not booting Tasha. Spencer more so because he'd have a clear path to the finals and only have to worry about Wentworth beating him.

 

[Da Prophet]

My first thought was a tie at the final tribal council.

Tasha calling Wentworth a goat was hilarious when Wentworth has played one of the best games this season. Also Spencer and Abi (assuming she's the one who voted Keith) are morons for not booting Tasha. Spencer more so because he'd have a clear path to the finals and only have to worry about Wentworth beating him.

What do you mean when you say final tribal council because we've had 2-2 ties when it's been a final 3 before?

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

What do you mean when you say final tribal council because we've had 2-2 ties when it's been a final 3 before?

I mean the vote to decide a winner. Weather it's final 3 or final 2. There's never been a tie to decide the winner.

 

[Da Prophet]

I mean the vote to decide a winner. Weather it's final 3 or final 2. There's never been a tie to decide the winner.

Not enough time in the finale for a final two and it would be an 11 person jury if it somehow managed to be it. Impossible for a tie if it's final two. If it's final three than it would have to be 5-5-0. They would just make the person who came in third vote for the winner. I very much doubt that as they still have SIX people in the finale. They'll be pushing for time as it is, no way they would have stuck a big thing like that towards the end of an already stacked finale.

And how are we getting the "never happened before" scene from Jeff in the preview when the vote is always revealed live at the finale? I feel like they would save that for the live reveal and have some crazy shit go down at the live finale.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

Hmm touche. Forgot the winner is revealed live. In that case you could be onto something about the double idol play.