Survivor 31

Now that Jeremy has 2 idols though he isnt going to be hesitant to play the first one so should he manage to hold off to 6 or 7, he should be pretty sweet
 
No, James (idol holder) was the most athletic guy by far. He didn't think his alliance would turn on him yet but knowing he had the idols scared them into doing it.
 
Yup, poor James. Went home with two idols in his pocket. To be fair those idols that season were big as fuck, you couldn't hide them.

I want to say he went home the second time with an immunity idol as well.

Then the third time he was on, he was a complete douche. Targeted some of my favorite players. James also had a history of getting hurt on Survivor too. Almost every season something happened to him and he had to play through it.

Also, you're all overrating Fishbach majorly. I'm expecting his boot to come in the next couple of episodes. Possibly because of the advantage he has putting a target on his back. He is simply around because he is a number and Jeremy trusts him. Once Jeremy finds out how much of a snake he is...which he already knows because when not even in the first week they were on the island Fishbach tried saying Jeremy was finding an idol meanwhile the dude was sitting on the beach thinking about his wife...not to mention it was him who was looking for the idol just right before it.

Mark my words, Fishbach won't survive the next two episodes.
 
I'm not even sure who Fishbach could beat in a Final 3 at this rate. Abi, Tasha and Kimmi for sure. Maybe Keith and Ciera. He has to be careful. But now that he's pointed out the voting block thing, people won't trust him. And the Witches Coven have already talked about Jeremy being a huge threat.

I don't know. This season is insane, but I'm really enjoying it.
 
Savage had a strong bond with Joe.

Wiglesworth had a strong bond with Joe.

Both are gone.

You would think Joe might realise it's about time to get on the attack since Stephen is clearly taking out any support he could possibly have.
 
Savage had a strong bond with Joe.

Wiglesworth had a strong bond with Joe.

Both are gone.

You would think Joe might realise it's about time to get on the attack since Stephen is clearly taking out any support he could possibly have.

Stephen had nothing to do with Savage going home.
 
Stephen had nothing to do with Savage going home.

Doesn't matter.

Joe still lost his two strongest allies. When I say Stephen is taking out Joe's support it has more to do with Wiglesworth being selected right after Savage was sent home. It's not simply luck that Joe is down two people while Stephen is trying to increase his power in the game.
 
Doesn't matter.

Joe still lost his two strongest allies. When I say Stephen is taking out Joe's support it has more to do with Wiglesworth being selected right after Savage was sent home. It's not simply luck that Joe is down two people while Stephen is trying to increase his power in the game.

Touche. Hopefully Joe comes up with a way to survive, maybe flip the game on Fish. But so far he's showing no signs of having learned his lesson.
 
Touche. Hopefully Joe comes up with a way to survive, maybe flip the game on Fish. But so far he's showing no signs of having learned his lesson.

The problem is that when Joe doesn't win immunity everyone is going to vote him out. It's an easy vote and if you're on the bottom I doubt that you're going to go against the majority and try to work with Joe.

Joe is out as soon as he is no longer holding immunity.
 
Joe should have taken it easy on the individual immunity challenges at least early. Maybe lost a couple. Because now it's last season all over again. Literally Deja Vu. But he can't win every one and like last season he will be out the door.

I like him, but he has done little to reform his past game. He's pretty much out there for fun.
 
The problem is that when Joe doesn't win immunity everyone is going to vote him out. It's an easy vote and if you're on the bottom I doubt that you're going to go against the majority and try to work with Joe.

Joe is out as soon as he is no longer holding immunity.

Yeah true. But if he was a good enough strategist he could probably stick around but he's not so he won't. His chance came when he could've voted with Ciera, Wentworth and Abi to boot Fish. Sadly he backed out.
 
Joe should've faked a knee injury early on. That might've been the closest he could come to making it far without needing to win every immunity.
 
Joe should've faked a knee injury early on. That might've been the closest he could come to making it far without needing to win every immunity.

Much like the injury to Tyson in BvW really helped him a lot more than people realised at the time. Joe should've watched that season and got some tips from the guy who was in the exact some position in his first season where he won the first two immunities only to be voted off straight after he failed to win a third.
 
Shit, double Survivor on the night before I have a massive assignment due... well, looks like I'm staying up way too late.
 
What a damn good episode all the way around. Not just because of quality, but my two least favorite people in the game went home back to back.

First of all, I said in this thread before or after Kelley played her first idol that the best idol plays to me are when they're for someone else to keep your alliance going. So that move by Jeremy was a great move. Not only did it keep who he thought was his closest ally in the game, but it solidified that closeness. That move ended up getting Stephen to tell him what his advantage was...something he should have done in the first place if he and Jeremy really were that close. Yet after all that, the little weasel picks Tasha first for the reward.

As far as the immunity challenge goes, I'm surprised Kelley put up white. She was in the minority it seemed. I say the same for Abi as well. Cierra however I agree with her move. She has no ability whatsoever to win any sort of challenge, even with the knowledge that she went home that episode she still had a 0% chance of winning. Also how could anybody criticize Joe for choosing to play whenever he is public enemy number one the first time he doesn't have immunity?

It would have been much funnier if Keith put up white too, and Joe managed to win immunity without even doing any work. But it could never be that easy. Keith however is one of the more underrated immunity players in the game. If I remember, he won a good handful his first season, and he has given Joe a run for his money a good bit this season. He also manages to stick around awhile too without getting any attention on himself, he came in 4th his first time around.

Abi too, she is STILL in the game. I still vote her to win over Jeremey, Spencer or any of my other favorites if she's sitting in final three. And I say this acknowledging I hated her with a passion at the beggining of the season.

So the second half of the game, Spencer knows who the top three are. Or at least he had an impression on who's top three he was in and how he is being pushed aside to number four now. So he wants to fix that, and that's be getting rid of Fishy.

I love how the craziness and unpredictability of Abi is still making this game great. That forced Stephen to want to split the votes, which ultimately sent him home. It would have been quite cruel and also very unique to the game for Joe to involuntarily vote himself out...and the fan Fishbach was I'm sure he had wet dreams thinking about making that happen. But it didn't, and he went home.

Jeremy is losing more and more control of the game. It's a shame his brilliant idol play was all for nothing by the next tribal council. Ironically it made Jeremy's game even harder because it kept Joe in the game (With Stephen gone the first tribal council, Joe would have been the most likely vote) and it put Jeremy's second idol back in the pocket of Kelley...which is who had it before Jeremy. What is it with Jeremy, Kelley, and the immunity idols? Anyone else feel that production made that way too obvious slipping her the clue during the reward challenge? Can't complain, because production has been helping my boys Spencer and Jeremy way more.

Also what's with next week? Who gets hurt? It looked like a guy's hand to me, possibly Joe.
 
First of all, I said in this thread before or after Kelley played her first idol that the best idol plays to me are when they're for someone else to keep your alliance going. So that move by Jeremy was a great move. Not only did it keep who he thought was his closest ally in the game, but it solidified that closeness. That move ended up getting Stephen to tell him what his advantage was...something he should have done in the first place if he and Jeremy really were that close. Yet after all that, the little weasel picks Tasha first for the reward.

Much like Malcolm Freberg's double idol play in his second season it's great for TV but bad for your game. What did the idol play actually do? Made Spencer doubt his safety in the game, rallied an alliance against Fish and Jeremy and resulted in Fish going home the very next tribal after the idol play.

The idol play didn't do anything positive for Jeremy. He now only has one idol, is seen as a bigger threat, lost his most trusted ally and has far less control over the game.

Great for TV but horrible strategy.
 
Tonight was bittersweet, sucks seeing Ciera go out as if Jeremy didn't waste an idol on Fish, her and Wentworth could've taken control of the game but at least Fish went out in the 2nd episode. I could not stop laughing when he was the only person to vote for Joe, why he didn't double vote for Joe or for Abi i don't get but oh well glad he's gone. Jeremy is gonna end up regretting saving Fish with that idol if he doesn't already, because Wentworth's idol is gonna lead to him going home.

Looks like Joe has some social game after all eh? Wouldn't mind him, Wentworth and Abi sitting in the final 3 together but if Wentworth reaches the end she'll only lose if she's against Jeremy.

Also don't think production did anything to help Wentworth get that idol clue, it was inside the wrapper of a random coin or whatever that was they had to hang up (drawing a blank) for getting a right answer. Anybody could've gotten it, she just got lucky. I really thought she was gonna get caught crawling out from under the shelter with the idol but thankfully she didn't. Now to hope Jeremy gets the boot next.
 
Don't get your hopes up, Jeremy isn't going anywhere. He's going to win the game and I'd bet all the money I have on it.
 
Much like Malcolm Freberg's double idol play in his second season it's great for TV but bad for your game. What did the idol play actually do? Made Spencer doubt his safety in the game, rallied an alliance against Fish and Jeremy and resulted in Fish going home the very next tribal after the idol play.

The idol play didn't do anything positive for Jeremy. He now only has one idol, is seen as a bigger threat, lost his most trusted ally and has far less control over the game.

Great for TV but horrible strategy.

I agree overall, but in this instance had Fish not fucked up the advantage it would have been alright. Idol paranoia strikes again. Dont know how Fish couldn't have thought he was a target, considering he claims to be a master, he just received a bunch of votes so clearly he was wanted out of the game.

Jeremy might be in trouble now, are we back to the voting blocks system or have the lines been drawn?

Is Abi stupid or is it lost in translation, I dont want to sound bigoted (which is exactly what someone says before doing the very thing) but I cant tell if she is stupid or unable to express herself properly
 
I agree overall, but in this instance had Fish not fucked up the advantage it would have been alright. Idol paranoia strikes again. Dont know how Fish couldn't have thought he was a target, considering he claims to be a master, he just received a bunch of votes so clearly he was wanted out of the game.

Jeremy might be in trouble now, are we back to the voting blocks system or have the lines been drawn?

Is Abi stupid or is it lost in translation, I dont want to sound bigoted (which is exactly what someone says before doing the very thing) but I cant tell if she is stupid or unable to express herself properly

A move is only as good as what follows it.

It's why the Malcolm double idol play is one of the biggest blunders in Survivor history. You had two idols, played both and then got voted out at the next tribal.

Jeremy is basically in the same boat. Had two idols, played one for Fish and then watched as Fish got blindsided at the next tribal council. If Fish and Jeremy make it to the end of the game after the idol play than it's a brilliant move. That's not what happened however and now it's going to be listed as a major mistake on Jeremy's part should he be voted out which appears to be a likely scenario.
 

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