Raw LD 7/20 - So an old enters a bar.....

[Crocker]

He'll probably drop the title to Owens at SS and then enter the main event scene again.

Hope this is true, but he just had a promo with Rollins.

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

Rusev thug life.

 

[John McCass]

Retaliation

 

[OYDK]

Oh fuck this angle straight to hell. Just cringeworthy.

 

[J-Dogg]

Cesaro and his matches against Cena have been amazing

 

[Navi]

Hope this is true, but he just had a promo with Rollins.

Yes and he could still drop the title and enter a feud with Rollins. It doesn't have to happen right this very minute. It's called a build. Or setting the groundwork.

 

[Crocker]

Oh fuck this angle straight to hell. Just cringeworthy.

Not as cringeworthy as Cena's character

 

[BringThePain834]

Are you fucking serious?

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

John Cena obviously shouldn't drop the US Title before SUmmerSlam, the whole point of the build for Cena vs. Rollins is for it to be Champion vs. Champion. Like that's the story they are trying to tell. Cena says Rollins is a cowardly champion while he is a fighting champion. So they fight to see who is the true champion.

Sometimes the stupidity of wrestling fans amazes me. This isn't rocket science, it's pretty straightforward.

 

[Bernkastel]

Does that not sound like he should be kept far away from uprising talent then?

Not really no.

After Cena lost against Kevin Owens his merch sales went down, more specifically his champ is here shirt (fucking stupid Shirt) but Kevin Owens shirt sales went up.

One shirt. Out of dozens of different types of merchandise Cena sells. Seems like we went down this path with Punk years ago.

Does that not seem like a situation where they set themselves up to fail there with a stupid shirt in the first place and then not allowing someone that could generate good revenue to actually be able to do so?

How has Owens other merchandise been selling besides his shirts? Are KO backpacks and shoes flying off the shelves as well as Cena's?

There is so much anecdotal evidence that there is more Cena merch than anyone else at venues, as well as certain list of people who have had their shirts pulled because they were outselling Cena. There was a time when Christian was outselling Cena and then he got cooled off.

That also has to do with staying power. Christian had his stuff pulled because he lacked consistency.

Its actually a case of self sabotage so they can be right about Cena rather than making the most possible money

no, it's not. You are not factoring in staying power. Kevin Owens gained a brief spike in popularity that caused one item of his to draw more than Cena's. Asking WWE to pull their one proven constantly marketable star from his position IS self sabotage.

 

[Navi]

Rusev acts like a chimpanzee.

He looks like the most unromantic person ever. Poor Lana.

 

[OYDK]

Yes and he could still drop the title and enter a feud with Rollins. It doesn't have to happen right this very minute. It's called a build. Or setting the groundwork.

Actually they were arguing over what the superior championship and who the superior champion is. Makes sense they would be building for title vs title match at SS.

 

[rbv13]

Yes and he could still drop the title and enter a feud with Rollins. It doesn't have to happen right this very minute. It's called a build. Or setting the groundwork.

Your F'n crazy Navi. You know in this day and age everything has to happen right now. Modern fans have no time for groundwork, storytelling or drama. You know this man!

 

[OYDK]

Not as cringeworthy as Cena's character

For a guy who hates how obsessed people are about Cena, you talk about him a whole hell of a lot.

Let it go Elsa.

 

[Crocker]

Not really no.



One shirt. Out of dozens of different types of merchandise Cena sells. Seems like we went down this path with Punk years ago.



How has Owens other merchandise been selling besides his shirts? Are KO backpacks and shoes flying off the shelves as well as Cena's?



That also has to do with staying power. Christian had his stuff pulled because he lacked consistency.



no, it's not. You are not factoring in staying power. Kevin Owens gained a brief spike in popularity that caused one item of his to draw more than Cena's. Asking WWE to pull their one proven constantly marketable star from his position IS self sabotage.

https://twitter.com/randyorton/status/587192252818161664

Look at this tweet... I'll summarize it just in case you can't understand it..

Someone is asking why John Cena is the only one allowed to have kids sizes T shirts.. other people want Orton kids T shirts but there are none available because the WWE chooses who they want to have merch success

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

Summer Rae could catch the dick.

 

[J-Dogg]

Cena staying away from people like owens is silly, he's had amazing matches and rivalry with the guy, everyone buying merch no matter who it is

 

[Bernkastel]

Also no one that seems to have issues with Cena and his position seems to feel the same way about Orton, despite him being WWE second most marketable star, and almost as protected as Cena.

 

[Crocker]

So Cena vs Rollins as a non-title champion vs champion match? Just like Owens vs Cena at EC? Well FOR SURE Cena would win that, but Rollins would stay the champion... so I guess thats a good thing.

 

[Navi]

Actually they were arguing over what the superior championship and who the superior champion is. Makes sense they would be building for title vs title match at SS.

I thought that was what I said.

Your F'n crazy Navi. You know in this day and age everything has to happen right now. Modern fans have no time for groundwork, storytelling or drama. You know this man!

I'm mortified now. I should have known that. LOL

On another note does Sheamus's briefcase have no handle, he carries it like a sack of potatoes. No racism intended or implied.

 

[Bernkastel]

https://twitter.com/randyorton/status/587192252818161664

Look at this tweet... I'll summarize it just in case you can't understand it..

Someone is asking why John Cena is the only one allowed to have kids sizes T shirts.. other people want Orton kids T shirts but there are none available because the WWE chooses who they want to have merch success

And how many kids have proven that they would like to buy a KO shirt even more than they would like to buy a Cena shirt? Is there some kind of survey that would prove this?

 

[L@RISANO]

Owens looks odd being in a 6-man tag match. meh!

 

[Navi]

https://twitter.com/randyorton/status/587192252818161664

Look at this tweet... I'll summarize it just in case you can't understand it..

Someone is asking why John Cena is the only one allowed to have kids sizes T shirts.. other people want Orton kids T shirts but there are none available because the WWE chooses who they want to have merch success

Actually at the last house show I was at here in Toronto, they do have kids shirts. Cena, Orton, Bryan and I think the Uso's had shirts for kids.

 

[Crocker]

Actually at the last house show I was at here in Toronto, they do have kids shirts. Cena, Orton, Bryan and I think the Uso's had shirts for kids.

But not nearly as much as the supply of Cena. They purposely make the most kids T shirts for Cena so that they can say hes the biggest merch seller. Then they make limited supplies for everybody else

 

[John McCass]

And oh, we have an MitB winner also