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[Ferbian]

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I Disagree, his promos suck he doesn't seem like he is very involved in what he is saying. It sounds like he is reading notes off his hand in English class. He definitely does not have the "look" to be a top star in WWE. He is barely involved in the Nexus angle, he is just a filler in the group and I have a feeling he will be the next to leave. plus whats up with his hair, it looks like its painted on or something, No gimmick what so ever. He is a short, somewhat mucscular guy that stumbled into wrestling one day and now he is somehow involved in the biggest angle in wwe right now. I just dont get it.

His promos are just fine, he gets the point across and he knows how to play his role, as well as the crowd. He plays on his attributes and his intelligence (At least he did on NXT)

The majority of them are pretty much fillers of Nexus, with the exception of Wade Barrett and Justin Gabriel, because they're the ones that gets to be featured every time, and gets to perform their finisher (Justin does) with every beat-down.

Also, short somewhat muscular. Have you followed the guy? he's 6.0 (not bad) 240 lbs and pretty much pure muscles. How is that short and somewhat muscular? The guy is the current power-house enforcer when Sheffield is out, just as well as he's a supporting enforcer and semi promo cutter when they're in the ring. He's definitely not the next to go, if anybody is the next to go it's gonna be Tarver most likely. But I doubt there will be anybody going.

Heath Slater is not over with anyone, I don't buy into his one man rock band crap or whatever he says. Much like Otunga, he is just a filler. Another person in the group to make them look more intimidating. He has an average build with goofy looking hair and the most boring personality I have ever seen in wwe. I won't complain about his in ring ability but nowadays, does that really even matter? I for one think it does but the millions of kids under 12 could care less and unfortunately thats who vince cares about more, not the people who watched it the first 30 years and got the wwe to where it is now, but i digress. Slater doesn't have what it takes to make it on his own after the nexus angle.

Slater got a good reaction on NXT, as well as he's over as a heel right now as a part of Nexus, that's not hard to acknowledge really.

Again, the majority of them are fillers because of Wade Barrett being the focus of the group, as well as Justin being a centerpiece in the whole thing. However they're all over, and they're all a part of this heel faction, adding something to it no matter what.

Like I've said numerous times by now (And quite frankly getting a little tired of it) Heath Slater is accomplished, having pinned 2 world champions while they were reigning, and he did it clean to both of them. How does that guy not have what it takes to make it on his own? He's able to talk, as well as he's able to wrestle. The only department this guy is truly lacking in is his build, and it's hardly a failure either, just look at Edge, who is pretty much the same build (With a few additional parts in weight and height, but hardly noticeable unless they stand next to each other on a scale).

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

SO it was brought to my attention that Ferbian is defending Otunga and Slater.

I'd like to sat no thanks. Heath Slater doesn't have a future outside of Nexus with any meaning. Sure he might end up having a job with the E, but won't do anything important. His look is shit, he's ugly as fuck and has a bad voice. No one likes this guy so a face run is out and no one will give him anything but X Pac heat if he's a heel. He's not bad in the ring but not good enough to make up for where he's lacking.


David Otunga is another that I don't see doing anything. He's atrocious in the rinjg and his stick work isn't all it's made out to be. His promos aren't good and he usually botches a line or two per show. Sure you can work on all that but I don't see him as anything but what's her names husband. Same can be said for marks. My girlfriend is a complete mark and she shares the same setiments on him.

 

[Ferbian]

I'd like to sat no thanks. Heath Slater doesn't have a future outside of Nexus with any meaning. Sure he might end up having a job with the E, but won't do anything important. His look is shit, he's ugly as fuck and has a bad voice. No one likes this guy so a face run is out and no one will give him anything but X Pac heat if he's a heel. He's not bad in the ring but not good enough to make up for where he's lacking.

Agreed, ugly and bad voice. But that's about the only thing I can see right in your case. Heath might also not have the greatest of singles careers, but he is certainly not gonna be someone lost in the shuffle. Especially considering he has all the credentials to be an available mid-card champion if needed.

David Otunga is another that I don't see doing anything. He's atrocious in the rinjg and his stick work isn't all it's made out to be. His promos aren't good and he usually botches a line or two per show. Sure you can work on all that but I don't see him as anything but what's her names husband. Same can be said for marks. My girlfriend is a complete mark and she shares the same setiments on him.

I remember once reading something about Otunga being the next Rock in terms of microphone skills. Could be imagining it though, but it's definitely showing that he is nowhere near the level of what people make his microphone work out to be. However it's certainly above some of the people that we scream out in despise about not being pushed *Cough* Enter Morrison *Cough*

Otunga is green in the ring, that's all. I've said it before mate, he has less than 2 years of in-ring experience, can you honestly blame the guy for not being perfect? He's not exactly a botchtastic failure.

Besides, WWE have found a way to push people we cared little about into a success. He has the looks, as well as a decent microphone ability to make stuff work.

 

[Rhonda Rousey's Sports Bra]

Agreed, ugly and bad voice. But that's about the only thing I can see right in your case. Heath might also not have the greatest of singles careers, but he is certainly not gonna be someone lost in the shuffle. Especially considering he has all the credentials to be an available mid-card champion if needed.

What credentials? He can wrestle a match? Like I said, he;s not bad in the ring, but he does nothing to wow me or anyone I know. What's his finisher? I couldn't tell you. Everything about Slater just says bleh to me. I know it's not the most popular opinion on the internet, but looks means a whole lot in wrestling. Slater just doesn't have that and I can't see him as anything more than a lower card guy.

I remember once reading something about Otunga being the next Rock in terms of microphone skills. Could be imagining it though, but it's definitely showing that he is nowhere near the level of what people make his microphone work out to be. However it's certainly above some of the people that we scream out in despise about not being pushed *Cough* Enter Morrison *Cough*

Otunga is green in the ring, that's all. I've said it before mate, he has less than 2 years of in-ring experience, can you honestly blame the guy for not being perfect? He's not exactly a botchtastic failure.

Besides, WWE have found a way to push people we cared little about into a success. He has the looks, as well as a decent microphone ability to make stuff work.

It wasn't me. Everyone that can talk upon their debut is deemed the next Rock. Otunga is bleh to me too. Nothing makes me want to see this guy do anything but shut up. Sure he's big, but he's akward in the ring. I know he's only been doing this for a little while, but I don't see him being anything after Nexus. It could just be because I'm not a fan of his, but I just don't see anything in him to make me think otherwise.

 

[Ferbian]

What credentials? He can wrestle a match? Like I said, he;s not bad in the ring, but he does nothing to wow me or anyone I know. What's his finisher? I couldn't tell you. Everything about Slater just says bleh to me. I know it's not the most popular opinion on the internet, but looks means a whole lot in wrestling. Slater just doesn't have that and I can't see him as anything more than a lower card guy.

Well yeah, he can wrestle, he can speak as well as he has a bit of credibility build from pinning champions and having a good score on NXT when he fought there.

His finisher is the same one that looks like the one Dolph Ziggler is using (Jumping Russian Legsweep according to Wikipedia). It was the one he used to pin Golddust I believe in the warm-up 7 on 7 tag team match leading up to Summerslam.

Also, like I stated earlier. I agree, the looks is what really kills him the most, but he's not completely lost. He has a decent build that equals just a little bit to a smaller Edge.

It wasn't me. Everyone that can talk upon their debut is deemed the next Rock. Otunga is bleh to me too. Nothing makes me want to see this guy do anything but shut up. Sure he's big, but he's akward in the ring. I know he's only been doing this for a little while, but I don't see him being anything after Nexus. It could just be because I'm not a fan of his, but I just don't see anything in him to make me think otherwise.

I know it wasn't you mate.

Well you want him to shut up, doesn't that sell him off as a decent heel if the majority of people want him to shut up? It's pretty much the same with Jack Swagger, we hated him because he just kept on talking.

Also, don't worry I'm not necessarily a fan either. However I don't discredit his potential, because he's still young in the business, and he does have the primary thing that Vince gets a hard-on for, that being the bodybuilder look.

 

[rkomania25]

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Oops, Sorry. I haven't been on this thing in a while. I hope it looks better now.

Well yeah, he can wrestle, he can speak as well as he has a bit of credibility build from pinning champions and having a good score on NXT when he fought there.

His finisher is the same one that looks like the one Dolph Ziggler is using (Jumping Russian Legsweep according to Wikipedia). It was the one he used to pin Golddust I believe in the warm-up 7 on 7 tag team match leading up to Summerslam.

Also, like I stated earlier. I agree, the looks is what really kills him the most, but he's not completely lost. He has a decent build that equals just a little bit to a smaller Edge.

The only thing this guy has done is pin two world champs or whatever. How long can he ride that? Probably as long as Jericho rode the "I beat the rock and stone cold in the same night." Only time will tell what happens with Slater, I for one believe he will fall into no mans land with all the jobbers and wasted talent.

I know it wasn't you mate.

Well you want him to shut up, doesn't that sell him off as a decent heel if the majority of people want him to shut up? It's pretty much the same with Jack Swagger, we hated him because he just kept on talking.

Also, don't worry I'm not necessarily a fan either. However I don't discredit his potential, because he's still young in the business, and he does have the primary thing that Vince gets a hard-on for, that being the bodybuilder look.

I do agree with the Vince statement, he loves the guys that have muscles on their muscles. Unfortunately he is the only one. I have seen Otunga maybe cut two promos since he has been on Raw, I didn't watch NXT much so I can't speak for what he did then but I'm sure it can't be much better than what he is doing now. And both of them have been the same thing. He looks to both sides of him with that stupid look on his face and say three things. He might have some talent but when paired with the likes of Sheffield and Barrett, he looks like trash. Thats really all I have to say, no reason to beat a dead horse.

 

[Ferbian]

Oops, Sorry. I haven't been on this thing in a while. I hope it looks better now.

It's certainly getting there. Takes a while to get used to, just trying to help.

The only thing this guy has done is pin two world champs or whatever. How long can he ride that? Probably as long as Jericho rode the "I beat the rock and stone cold in the same night." Only time will tell what happens with Slater, I for one believe he will fall into no mans land with all the jobbers and wasted talent.

It's merely a stepping stone for more. He could obviously continue to ride it if he continues to pin champions, could he not? He has pinned 2 active world champions, Justin have pinned Cena, Wade have pinned Orton, Jericho and some others I believe as well. That's more than enough for all of them to continue to ride on it, especially Heath Slater if he continues to play up to it.

I don't see how WWE could put so much focus into Heath Slater and The Nexus in general and then have any of them fall into obscurity. Especially considering Darren was booted from Nexus, only to return 2 weeks later and cause Wade to loose to Randy Orton. It shows that WWE is most likely not gonna give up on any of the guys.

I do agree with the Vince statement, he loves the guys that have muscles on their muscles. Unfortunately he is the only one. I have seen Otunga maybe cut two promos since he has been on Raw, I didn't watch NXT much so I can't speak for what he did then but I'm sure it can't be much better than what he is doing now. And both of them have been the same thing. He looks to both sides of him with that stupid look on his face and say three things. He might have some talent but when paired with the likes of Sheffield and Barrett, he looks like trash. Thats really all I have to say, no reason to beat a dead horse.

He's the only one is hardly true. I'm sure a lot of the guys in the back in WWE likes their opponents to look credible just as well. Otunga has the looks to be credible against anybody.

Besides, I'm sure a lot of the fans could care about the build as well. I for one would much rather watch a guy with Otunga's build compared to someone with Rey Mysterio's build, or for that sake (to use someone of proper size) Edge, who could look credible against some guys, but has to rely on in-ring ability and his accomplishments to back him up in the ring, as opposed to his looks.

And I agree, paired with the other Nexus guys, he doesn't look like the best of them by far. But that is nowhere near enough to discredit the guy.

 

[billm75]

Otunga has the looks to be credible against anybody.

Sorry man, I gotta call bullshit here. He has the build, if that's what you're referring to, I will give you that. But he's a mini-Batista. He's like 6 foot nothing, and looks like a buff midget in the ring. He has no charisma, at least guys like Cody Rhodes and Jack Swagger have something going for them that allows you to look past their speech impediments. Otunga, quite honestly, sounds like a baby Mike Tyson to me.

His in ring work is absolutely horrible. I've seen people bash Batista (botchista they called him) and for god's sake, Batista was believable in the ring. Otunga is simply out sized, out matched and out classed. Even the WWE knows he's crap in the ring, why do you think he hasn't had ONE singles match since the end of his NXT tenure? Tag matches, multi-man beatdowns, etc, but not ONE singles match. I don't know why people keep defending him, he's not sharing his wife or his money with any of you....I just simply can't see the allure of Otunga as a pro wrestler.

 

[rkomania25]

It's certainly getting there. Takes a while to get used to, just trying to help.

Absolutely and I thank you for the help cause yesterday I was wondering to myself...How the hell do they quote and say who its from? lol

It's merely a stepping stone for more. He could obviously continue to ride it if he continues to pin champions, could he not? He has pinned 2 active world champions, Justin have pinned Cena, Wade have pinned Orton, Jericho and some others I believe as well. That's more than enough for all of them to continue to ride on it, especially Heath Slater if he continues to play up to it.

I don't see how WWE could put so much focus into Heath Slater and The Nexus in general and then have any of them fall into obscurity. Especially considering Darren was booted from Nexus, only to return 2 weeks later and cause Wade to loose to Randy Orton. It shows that WWE is most likely not gonna give up on any of the guys.

I see what you are saying here, much like Randy Orton legend killer theme that he had. I'm just saying I dont think they could push Slater to be any more than a midcard contender. Maybe have that storyline for Barrett and he could play that role and build up his character. But after Nexus, Slater, Otunga, and possibly Tarver won't have Barrett and Gabriel to play off of and I think their characters will fail unless they undergo a serious gimmick change.

He's the only one is hardly true. I'm sure a lot of the guys in the back in WWE likes their opponents to look credible just as well. Otunga has the looks to be credible against anybody.

Besides, I'm sure a lot of the fans could care about the build as well. I for one would much rather watch a guy with Otunga's build compared to someone with Rey Mysterio's build, or for that sake (to use someone of proper size) Edge, who could look credible against some guys, but has to rely on in-ring ability and his accomplishments to back him up in the ring, as opposed to his looks.

And I agree, paired with the other Nexus guys, he doesn't look like the best of them by far. But that is nowhere near enough to discredit the guy.

I Do like some guys that have the big muscle build, but not based solely on the fact that they are huge. All Otunga really has is his physique and as far as I;m concerned he doesn't have much else.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

His in ring work is absolutely horrible. I've seen people bash Batista (botchista they called him) and for god's sake, Batista was believable in the ring. Otunga is simply out sized, out matched and out classed. Even the WWE knows he's crap in the ring, why do you think he hasn't had ONE singles match since the end of his NXT tenure? Tag matches, multi-man beatdowns, etc, but not ONE singles match. I don't know why people keep defending him, he's not sharing his wife or his money with any of you....I just simply can't see the allure of Otunga as a pro wrestler.

I am gonna have to agree with this rant-quese post.

I think what people are forgetting is that Otunga just doesn't have some main event spot on Superstars. He is getting more exposure and mic time than a lot of guys on Raw. You can tell the WWE wants him to be good, but he just isn't. Even a drunk can say no to a free shot ever once in a while. Well, the drunks I know anyway.

To be honest, he is either a late bloomer or never planted guy to me. His strikes are still bad despite that is what most of his offense is. He doesn't have any presence in what he does. And if wasn't for the announcers ramming "DAVID THE A-LIST! OTUNGA" down our throats, I don't think anyone would care to remember who he is.

 

[Ultra Awesome]

Looks like more people have joined in on our NEXUS conversation...the more the marrier I guess...miss me? haha.

However the match doesn't automatically have to be the end. Really it shouldn't even be the end, because the faction should break up by themselves if anything. Having John Cena vs Wade Barrett accomplishes more for Wade than for the faction itself.

Having thought about it, a ending where the NEXUS dis-bands themselves is certainly more benificial for the entire group than just Wade Barret vs. Cena or anyone else for that matter. An end like that becomes more beneficial to everyone as they do not walk away "empty-handed"...Everyone remains looking good and they can all venture off on their own (etc).

Still, you also cannot deny the fact that a match of John Cena vs. Wade Barret is not "meh" and it would most certainly be something to look forward to. Same as I cannot deny that the Cena vs. Wade is not the only way to end the faction...

And David does not have passion for the business? To be the poster boy? There's no denying that anybody going into the business who has exposure at some higher level is definitely not gonna rely on the business if they don't want to. David wants to be there just as bad I'm certain. Especially considering the guy is from Harvard, he could do anything, but he choose wrestling.

Otunga has just as much potential to be big as The Miz had potential to be big back then, they just need to capitalize on it properly.

The fact that he dropped Harvard to go into wrestling doesn't make him have more pasion for the business or even wrestling in general. If anything, it only makes him look like he coudn't "hack" it in Harvard. David wanting to be there "just as bad" is your opinion...unless you have facts to prove it so I can believe you...which I would really like to see and I'm sure these other folks would as well.

David, to me, is just another "oppurtunist", he wants to get what he can off the WWE, so he can build popularity. Once, he achieves what he wants, he'll be long gone. C'mon, David Otunga a poster boy? Even you have to admit that that not only will [most likely] NEVER happen....but its also a load of crock.

Right now yes it's one of the only reasons he'd be kept around. Of course that would be discrediting his look and ability on the microphone completely, but yes it's one of the only reasons to keep him around.

You're agreeing with me....nice...but then again, that discredits you in your replies saying that Otunga "has it" when you already know that he is only there because he IS a tool. David Otunga doesn't have a "real" future...you're saying to give him time...agian, that only depends on his comittment and his luck.

David is able to pull in new viewers by giving that exposure he gets around Hudson and his own fame from reality and a movie or two I believe.

How is that not a winner, except for a tool? Again, it requires that he's used properly yes, but it's still a potential winner.

When you put it that way, Otunga is an "opportunist"...basically, you just supported what I said above. Otunga just wants fame so he can go on to do something else. Mark my words, if they keep him there, he'll just take advantage and leave when he has all he needs.

Heath is more over than Primo, as well as he's one of the few Nexus guys that can brag about pinning a world champion in singles competition, as well as 2 world champions when they separately held the championships. How is that not pushing him just a little bit? He was accomplished on NXT, and he is definitely more than just a future jobber.

So he beat a couple of champions, that doesn't mean much in the long run. Correct me if I'm worng but wasn't Primo once a Mid-carder also? Heath isn't that much over than Primo. Primo gets pretty good pops now and then (why? I have no clue...he sucks). Heath will end up having the same role as Primo. Besides like a few stated above, his looks and voice don't do any good for him. And I think that will hurt him more than anything.

John is shit. I've uttered that quite often in the past few months. Slater however is not shit. There's really nothing more to say to that, because it's true, and you know it.

...JOHN MORRISON IS SHIT!...no doubt in my mind about that.

At the momment...you're right...Heath is NOT shit...but once NEXUS ends...he will be more than qualified to be shit...

Darren might have been the weaker link. He was the first eliminated rookie on NXT, as well as he was barely over. He bored the crowd as well as the IWC (Which isn't really an accomplishment, but it's still something compared to the others). Darren has potential to go places though, he has the potential to get over. As long as he keeps playing the serious role and doesn't revert back to the god awful peppy persona

Looks like we finally have a (somewhat) agreement on a NEXUS member. No need in continuing the discussion of Darren Young.

That could change.

Mmmmm....I don't know about you but I don't really want to see it happen...doesn't seem like it would be that interesting to me. Edge is pretty boring on the mic. There's nothing more to add ot that....

Could be a nice change of pace to have him being one of the final ones to bash the faction down to earth. However I'm not sure it's where WWE will be going no, but there's definitely a possibility.

Yea thats definately a possibility...but like I said with Edge, a feud between the two wouldn't seem as interesting, but then again its like you said...it would depend on how CREATIVE will end up doing things.

Certainly it's where he's better off yes. However, we shouldn't discredit the potential after the Kane / Undertaker feud. Especially considering while rumors is that Nexus ends around October, there's still chances of pulling something interesting to make it work up till Undertaker is free on the feud marked.

If we base this by the rumor that NEXUS will end in October, having Undertaker feud with NEXUS will be a great way to kick off Smackdown in their transition to the Syfy network. If NEXUS goes from feuding with Randy (etc) to feuding with Undertaker on Smackdown, it not only helps promote Smackdown, it makes what could be a very good feud....(I am speaking hypothetically of course)

So we agree on something.

...we seem to be agreeing on more as of late...

Agreed. Big Show has a little bit of potential though, he's big and he dominated The Straight Edge Society.

I am going to quote a previous post of yours but take it out of context...as it applies to what I think of Big Show...

[Big Show] is shit. I've uttered that quite often in the past few months [...] There's really nothing more to say to that, because it's true, and you know it.

 

[TheMainEvent]

Nexus debuted to HUGE success and anticipation for the potential of an epic takeover type storyline. They were dominate as a group and took out some of WWEs top stars. Then came Summerslam.....Already having lost Daniel Bryan at the PPV Superman Cena gets the win and pins two Nexus members, soon after they kick out Darren Young, then Skip gets injured with a broken ankle and out for 4-6 months. Along with these misteps they are made to look weak in matches with top WWE talent and ultimately dont have any real dominant qualities as of late. So have they lost their momentum?

To compare I look at them similar to the early nWo in regards to dominance and takeover. nWo had the numbers against WCW and were constantly taking over Nitro and attacking everyone. They were all over the show stepping in on announcers, attacking announcers and figure heads, interupting matches, trying to recruit new guys and being dominate. They had top faces like Sting, Luger, Macho, DDP, and Horsemen to feud with but were kept getting the upperhand. Hogan got the belt and it grew even more.
Nexus should be just as dominate but arent.

Mainly I think its potentially politics that is holding them back to some extent. Guys like Edge, Orton, Cena dont want to look weak in losing to these rookies so they arent allowing them to get over as dominate heels. Same thing happened with nWo in WWE when Rock and Austin immedietly were made to look superior to Hall and Hogan and won their first matches and overall feuds which watered down the nWo and they were no threat to anyone. Maybe its not the superstars but creative but regardless for Nexus to look strong they need to take out Superstars without the mandatory "next week Cena gets a win back"method of thinking. Nexus should also be tryin to recruit new members or debuting guys from NXT-2. Even just having the group appear in street clothes with the matching NXT shirts, which should get a makeover as well, trying to turn WWE guys and handing out shirts ala nWo would make them interesting. Dunno just some thoughts I felt like sharing.

 

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

i agree with some of the things you just said like the fact that they need to get at least 2 more guys in the group i dont think they should have kicked out darryn young to begin with. nxt 2 guys like husky and titus would fit in well. but i dont think that they should try to turn wwe guys to join them. i dont think it would be a good way to finish the story. and the subject on the shirt styles i think that the shirt is great.

 

[phillb01]

i think nexus could improve there dominance if they

A. start taking out people on smackdown

B. beat down more main event players like when nexus first started

C. recruit 2 more superstars and to make up the numbers i think they should be

1. michael mcgillicutty- hes talented
2. husky harris- hes a powerhouse

what would be good aswell is if nexus recruited aloisia and used her to take over the divas division

am i the only one that thinks that nexus should recruit Aloisia the 6ft something diva that got "fired" so they can takeover the divas division aswell

Nexus should also recruit
Michael Mcgillicutty and husky harris

 

[Marcesto Del Santos Vega]

Nexus is pretty dope, i mess with the nexus I like every member except skip. to keep nexus relevant they need to be looked at as the ones who go over the rules litteraly. have wade become the champ ASAP. so they look like they are on TOP. maybe even have nexus capture every title on RAW and invade smackdown and take those titles or hve smackdown champ join nexus who ever it is NOT KANE . but they do need to increase in size should not have kicked out darren young. Even Cena joining nexus would be crazy AND i feel will keep the nexus as angle alive

 

[The Jabroni]

The Nexus has not lost it's edge nor it's dominance. The fact is, they weren't expected to take over Raw. The odds were (and are still) highly against their success. They've already come much farther than anyone would've thought. They were rookies when they started, and now they're full-fledged pros.

In order to see just how far they've come, you have to look at the situation in a more general sense. A few months ago, Wade Barrett was a rookie. The same goes for Justin Gabriel. Wade Barrett is currently a contender for the WWE Championship and he's fighting for it at Night of Champions. Justin Gabriel fought toe-to-toe with John Cena (the biggest name in the company) and held his ground. It took an Attitude adjustment from the top rope to take him out.

And as for Darren Young and Daniel Bryan: Bryan's got his Miz feud, so he's not a threat to them. Darren Young is a potential threat, but he's not gonna be able to take them down on his own.

If you had told me during NXT season 1 that all of the rookies would be headlining SummerSlam 2010, I would've thought you were out of your mind. But this is now a reality. In a month they've come this far. Instead of focusing on their possible loss of "edge and dominance," the real focus should be put on the potential that this motley group of "rookies" has and the fact that the Nexus is just a way to get that potential into a tangible form. By next year, the Nexus may be long gone, but the members will have come farther than they ever could've alone.

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

Nexus sure has come a long way and they'll keep their edge if the WWE pulls the stunt I think they're going to pull by having Nexus intefer in the 6 pack challange. I can see working in a few ways. There's the opening in the 6 pack challange. Young replaces Jericho and Nexus raises hell and Young gives the opening for Barrett to win and bam...Nexus credibility through interference and they continue with their attacks. If not, looks like John Morrison is going to replace Jericho and Nexus will interfer so with Darren Young trying to back to the Nexus. Barrett wins and starts a storyline with Young again similar to Morgan's mem storyline. If not, seems like Nexus is going to fade out and some of their wrestlers will go back to FCW or go to Smackdown.

 

[the_A-LIST]

Nexus should recruit these three guys.

Michael Mcgilicutty - He's similar to Barrett, except Barrett is still another level ahead.
Eli Cottonwood - Can be that intimidating factor of the group. Use him like Khali was used when he first came to the WWE.
Husky Harris - He would fit well into Nexus as the powerhouse until Sheffield returns. Then both would be a great tag team.

These three would really fit well into Nexus. If this ever happened, I see Nexus as a big threat to take over both Smackdown and Raw, even though 9 members would be a lot once Skip Sheffield comes back, it would be original 8 members for now and how Nexus should of been in the beginning and we can see how it would work out.

 

[Mac Attack]

The Nexus has not lost it's edge nor it's dominance. The fact is, they weren't expected to take over Raw. The odds were (and are still) highly against their success. They've already come much farther than anyone would've thought. They were rookies when they started, and now they're full-fledged pros.

In order to see just how far they've come, you have to look at the situation in a more general sense. A few months ago, Wade Barrett was a rookie. The same goes for Justin Gabriel. Wade Barrett is currently a contender for the WWE Championship and he's fighting for it at Night of Champions. Justin Gabriel fought toe-to-toe with John Cena (the biggest name in the company) and held his ground. It took an Attitude adjustment from the top rope to take him out.

If you had told me during NXT season 1 that all of the rookies would be headlining SummerSlam 2010, I would've thought you were out of your mind. But this is now a reality. In a month they've come this far. Instead of focusing on their possible loss of "edge and dominance," the real focus should be put on the potential that this motley group of "rookies" has and the fact that the Nexus is just a way to get that potential into a tangible form. By next year, the Nexus may be long gone, but the members will have come farther than they ever could've alone.

I got some bad news for you wrestling is scripted. This is all already written out and planned they didn't get any better they just were planned to be this way. Sorry to burst your bubbble

 

[yur_momma]

nexus never got over with me to begin with, the whole story never made any sense and i found it to be extremely unbelievable that wwe superstars, who have battled the best at sites like WM, were suddenly OWNED by a bunch of rookies from FCW. it made the entire wwe look so inferior to FCW and just made me feel like FCW is what we should have been watching for all these years because they apparently create GODS.

for me i wish the nexus had never appeared because its going to be a long, long time before i can take wwe seriously again.

 

[Ferbian]

I see what you are saying here, much like Randy Orton legend killer theme that he had. I'm just saying I dont think they could push Slater to be any more than a midcard contender. Maybe have that storyline for Barrett and he could play that role and build up his character. But after Nexus, Slater, Otunga, and possibly Tarver won't have Barrett and Gabriel to play off of and I think their characters will fail unless they undergo a serious gimmick change.

I never once said he was gonna be pushed beyond a mid-card contender. I believe he's a guy stuck in the mid-card for now as well. But I don't think he's shit, and I don't think he'll be one of the guys to fade into obscurity, especially considering how The Nexus has been pushed as of late.

Their gimmicks can be maintained just fine. I don't even remember what they're gimmicks are, and I don't see how they couldn't play off the heels that they already have, or faces that they did just fine with in NXT. They all have some kind of persona over them, that I'm certain has the ability to catch on with the RAW viewers.

I Do like some guys that have the big muscle build, but not based solely on the fact that they are huge. All Otunga really has is his physique and as far as I;m concerned he doesn't have much else.

He has physique and microphone skills that are superior to the majority of The Nexus' members, except for Wade and maaaaybe Tarver.

Having thought about it, a ending where the NEXUS dis-bands themselves is certainly more benificial for the entire group than just Wade Barret vs. Cena or anyone else for that matter. An end like that becomes more beneficial to everyone as they do not walk away "empty-handed"...Everyone remains looking good and they can all venture off on their own (etc).

Exactly. So John Cena vs Wade Barrett is hardly the best thing WWE can do for Nexus, because Wade is the only one benefiting from it. Sure I heard the rumors that Wade was scheduled to feud with Cena over the summer, and I was ecstatic. That was until I heard of The Nexus. Sure I was loving Nexus, but it was obviously not gonna be that big a deal of John Cena vs Wade Barrett with the 6 others around.

Still, you also cannot deny the fact that a match of John Cena vs. Wade Barret is not "meh" and it would most certainly be something to look forward to. Same as I cannot deny that the Cena vs. Wade is not the only way to end the faction...

It depends to who they appeal to really. I'm not seeing the big deal in John Cena vs Wade Barrett, so obviously I can deny the fact that it's not meh.

The fact that he dropped Harvard to go into wrestling doesn't make him have more pasion for the business or even wrestling in general. If anything, it only makes him look like he coudn't "hack" it in Harvard. David wanting to be there "just as bad" is your opinion...unless you have facts to prove it so I can believe you...which I would really like to see and I'm sure these other folks would as well.

He didn't exactly drop Harvard. He educated, and then went on to become a lawyer I believe. Afterwards he went on to fulfill his dreams of becoming a wrestler.

David has often mentioned how wrestling was his child-hood dream, in his introduction promos on NXT.

David, to me, is just another "oppurtunist", he wants to get what he can off the WWE, so he can build popularity. Once, he achieves what he wants, he'll be long gone. C'mon, David Otunga a poster boy? Even you have to admit that that not only will [most likely] NEVER happen....but its also a load of crock.

That's a matter of opinion I guess. We can't prove whether he just wants to harvest the popularity. But I seriously doubt someone who is exposed to the mainstream, goes into wrestling to get popularity.

You're agreeing with me....nice...but then again, that discredits you in your replies saying that Otunga "has it" when you already know that he is only there because he IS a tool. David Otunga doesn't have a "real" future...you're saying to give him time...agian, that only depends on his comittment and his luck.

Hardly discrediting my replies, because I mention that we're obviously discrediting all the other things he has to offer, as well as the in-ring ability that will eventually come along. Everybody have to start somewhere, and it's obvious WWE wanted to get this guy going if they took him in from the beginning of his career.

When you put it that way, Otunga is an "opportunist"...basically, you just supported what I said above. Otunga just wants fame so he can go on to do something else. Mark my words, if they keep him there, he'll just take advantage and leave when he has all he needs.

Otunga already has fame dude. He was a reality star as well as he featured in a movie or two. He's exposed through Jeniffer Hudson, how is that not being famous in some manner? He doesn't really need wrestling to get exposed to the public at all.

I said that Otunga draws in new casual mainstream viewers, not that professional wrestling draws in people to notice Otunga so he can eventually leave the business.

So he beat a couple of champions, that doesn't mean much in the long run. Correct me if I'm worng but wasn't Primo once a Mid-carder also? Heath isn't that much over than Primo. Primo gets pretty good pops now and then (why? I have no clue...he sucks). Heath will end up having the same role as Primo. Besides like a few stated above, his looks and voice don't do any good for him. And I think that will hurt him more than anything.

I would hardly ever call Primo a mid-carder. He lived off his brother. But that's another story.

Heath Slater is over as a heel, how is that so hard to understand dude? Have you heard the reaction The Nexus gets?

Also, I'm not gonna address the looks and voice statement again, you can read what I've written about 5 times already.

At the momment...you're right...Heath is NOT shit...but once NEXUS ends...he will be more than qualified to be shit...

Hardly something we can predict now. I don't see him ending up in obscurity, especially considering he has momentum after leaving Nexus.

Mmmmm....I don't know about you but I don't really want to see it happen...doesn't seem like it would be that interesting to me. Edge is pretty boring on the mic. There's nothing more to add ot that....

There's a lot of people who are much more boring than Edge on the microphone. Edge has the potential to work with these guys, there's no doubt in that. He is after all the ultimate opportunist, who knows if he could or could not strike a lethal hole in Nexus by taking a chance?

Yea thats definately a possibility...but like I said with Edge, a feud between the two wouldn't seem as interesting, but then again its like you said...it would depend on how CREATIVE will end up doing things.

Exactly. Creative is where it all lies, so Sheamus face turn or something like that could more than work for Nexus.

If we base this by the rumor that NEXUS will end in October, having Undertaker feud with NEXUS will be a great way to kick off Smackdown in their transition to the Syfy network. If NEXUS goes from feuding with Randy (etc) to feuding with Undertaker on Smackdown, it not only helps promote Smackdown, it makes what could be a very good feud....(I am speaking hypothetically of course)

I completely forgot about that. And I agree, it could do good for Nexus and Smackdown to feud with Undertaker during that period of time. However it would do good for Smackdown no matter what if they feud after Kane / Undertaker is done. Viewers will eventually be drawn over there no matter the time they make this feud.

I am going to quote a previous post of yours but take it out of context...as it applies to what I think of Big Show...

Yes Big Show is pretty shit. Though entertaining on the microphone. But that's just as much because the Straight Edge Society has really ruined Big Show as a whole, because he gets to dominate constantly which is hardly encouraging to watch.

But it also shows that he has the potential to carry himself against The Nexus. Considering he is so dominant.

 

[rkomania25]

I never once said he was gonna be pushed beyond a mid-card contender. I believe he's a guy stuck in the mid-card for now as well. But I don't think he's shit, and I don't think he'll be one of the guys to fade into obscurity, especially considering how The Nexus has been pushed as of late.

Their gimmicks can be maintained just fine. I don't even remember what they're gimmicks are, and I don't see how they couldn't play off the heels that they already have, or faces that they did just fine with in NXT. They all have some kind of persona over them, that I'm certain has the ability to catch on with the RAW viewers.

What you are saying is all depending on how they end the Nexus angle and where the rest of them end up. They could do an angle where they are all fired except Barrett and they all go back to FCW, vince has done crazier things. I think the whole reason for the Mega Nexus push is to get Barrett established as a Main Eventer. Seeing as how Jericho, Taker, Kane and Rey Mysterio are probably all retiring within the next year, WWE wants to do everything they can to make new stars. And they have been successful in Barrett. I think the rest of Nexus with the exceptiong of Gabriel are there to just push Barrett.

As for their gimmicks, aren't they all just about the same? I for one don't want to see 6 guys on raw with all the same gimmicks. As I stated I didn't watch the first season of NXT so I can't speak on his time there.

He has physique and microphone skills that are superior to the majority of The Nexus' members, except for Wade and maaaaybe Tarver.

He may be superior to some of the guys in Nexus but that in no way implies that he is good. The rest of Nexus suck, so just because he is above most of them, its not that big of an accomplishment. If Otunga ever wants to survive in wwe he needs to buck up with his personality and stop being so stale and undergo a mega gimmick change.

 

[rkomania25]

So I thought of a nice scenario of where this whole Nexus angle could go, very doubtful it happens, but thats why we are on here, right?

So Wade Barrett kept talking about "the bigger picture". Wade Barrett wins at NOC and takes the strap. The next night he comes out and and says he has to thank one person that has led Nexus the whole time blah blah. HHH comes out and is revealed as the Nexus Leader. After months of destruction and what not from Nexus, HHH and Barrett start to feud with eachother in the group. Both of them want to be the sole leader of nexus, Leading up to a title match at Wrestlemania.

Now, say HHH wins at WM, takes the strap and then Nexus is still kicking around. The night after WM Nexus comes out and Barrett is talking about the bigger picture and it had nothing to do with HHH. He says he is sick of the old generation of stars(ei. taker, hhh, kane) trying to steal the spotlight all the time. He says its time for the new generation to take over WWE. Out comes the likes of Orton, Sheamus, Punk, Swagger, Morrison, Miz, Mcintyre, and rhodes and dibiase.

Now lets take a look at team "generation" vs team WWE


Team Generation:
Wade Barrett
Randy Orton
Sheamus
CM Punk
Jack Swagger
John Morrison
The Miz
Drew Mcintrye
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase
+Whoever is left from Original Nexus

Team WWE
HHH
Undertaker
Kane
Big Show
John Cena
Edge
Chris Jericho
Christian
Rey Mysterio
Mark Henry
William Regal


Now you have tag teams in both Factions which would make for excellent tag matches to come. Edge and Christian, Taker and Kane,
Jericho and Edge. As well as in The other team with Morrison and Miz, Dibiase and Rhodes, and Nexus.

You also have the big names going at it, Orton, Cena, Taker, Sheamus, Barrett etc. Drag this out till Summerslam with a huge ending to the story and you just may have either boosted your ratings or they dropped extremely.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

He has physique and microphone skills that are superior to the majority of The Nexus' members, except for Wade and maaaaybe Tarver.

As much as I have praised Gabriel's improvement, he is not good in the grand scheme. He has even admitted on Twitter that English being his second language is what might hurt him in the long run. Slater's voice sounds like a slightly more feminine Michelle McCool voice. Thus, monotonous and boring.

And if Otunga's physical doesn't scream tool, then I don't know what it. From the looks of things, the guy will be just another Buff Bagwell.

 

[Ultra Awesome]

I'm not seeing the big deal in John Cena vs Wade Barrett, so obviously I can deny the fact that it's not meh.

You want to know what's "meh"? Randy Orton vs. John Cena for the millionth time. A match that has been going on for so many times that people stop seeing the "prestiege" in a match between the two.

Rock vs. Austin, I'm sure its safe to say that a match between the two was NEVER "meh"...why? Because of the hype. That simple. If a match has a good enough hype, then no matter how many times it happens, it will always be something to look forward to.

John Cena vs. Wade Barret. The match has never happened one on one. This leaves the feeling that when the match does happen, it will be something special. Now what else would the match need? The HYPE. You've said time and time again, as have I, that the feuds will be interesting depending on how WWE handles them. I believe the same applies to a match of John Cena vs. Wade Barret. Currently, there is no sign of a match between the two will happen. However, when the two do face each other than it will be a big deal because it will have a sufficient hype. the thing here is that you are basing the possibility of the match on the present, when I am looking at the future (whether with NEXUS or without).

David has often mentioned how wrestling was his child-hood dream, in his introduction promos on NXT.

C'mon dude. Everyones childhood dream is to become a wrestler. I once dreamed of becoming a wrestler, you probably have too. "But David Otunga took the initiative unlike most" Ok, but practically everyone says that, so there is really no "Damn! this guy has true passion for what he is doing!" in Otunga saying that.

That's a matter of opinion I guess. We can't prove whether he just wants to harvest the popularity. But I seriously doubt someone who is exposed to the mainstream, goes into wrestling to get popularity.

So many names are at the tip of my tounge but I just can't get a good hold of who they were. But anyway, its not impossible that someone would go into mainstream just to obtain popularity. This is a "jacked up" world we live in, people are selfish, greedish bastards that only care for themselves in the long run. Though, this is a conversation best left for like the Cigar Lounge, so lets just leave it at that.

Otunga already has fame dude. He was a reality star as well as he featured in a movie or two. He's exposed through Jeniffer Hudson, how is that not being famous in some manner? He doesn't really need wrestling to get exposed to the public at all.

That all depends on what kind of person he is in real life. There are people in the world that just keep wanting annd wanting even if they already have to much. I am judging these things based on what I have seen outside of wrestling. To me, David is an oppurtunist, and he will do what it takes to get what he wants.

I said that Otunga draws in new casual mainstream viewers, not that professional wrestling draws in people to notice Otunga so he can eventually leave the business.

Arguable. There is no way to tell what his true intentions are. But it goes without saying, that Otunga will not make it very far either way.

I would hardly ever call Primo a mid-carder. He lived off his brother. But that's another story.

Heath Slater is over as a heel, how is that so hard to understand dude? Have you heard the reaction The Nexus gets?

What I am finding unlogical is that you say Primo lived off his brother, but isn't Heath in some form of way also living off of NEXUS. The heat that he gets is because of the things he has done with NEXUS as a whole. Once he leaves NEXUS, people will stop caring who the fuck he is. When Heath was in NXT, he didn't get good pops...at least not the way you describe it. Point is, Heath will make it in WWE when NEXUS ends...just not very far.

Also, I'm not gonna address the looks and voice statement again, you can read what I've written about 5 times already.

I'm not asking you to, I read what you said, I was just saying, no need to get "pissy"...

Hardly something we can predict now. I don't see him ending up in obscurity, especially considering he has momentum after leaving Nexus.

Momentum that won't last very long. His promo's aren't that good, niether are his in-ring abilities. "Practice makes Perfect"...well in the end its a matter of opinion, and only the future will tell. Khali was once at main event, now he is just a pathetic fucktard. Miz was once hated by all, now he has been crowned the future "poster boy" of the company. Carlito had all the hype in the world when he started, yet, he ended up getting released. There is no way to tell how far Heath will make it. But based on the way things are now, he won't make it very far, at least, not in my opinion.

We seem to be on equal terms on the rest, so I don't see the need to add to that...