*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread

[K4P-Unleashed]

Ok so I'm watching Raw because im an idiot.

Yeah dude I know just how you feel. I must be out of my mind to keep giving WWE these chances. Now I'm watching an "Over the Top Rope Challenge". What on god's green earth is this? We have one good segment so far - that being Miz/Bryan - and the rest is terrible! But anyways, I have to agree dude. The way they make Nexus out to be this terrible force to be reckoned with and then not let them defeat Cena shows just how terrified WWE is of putting anyone over Cena. I really hope this ends soon because the machine known as John Cena has been churning out the same product for years now and I'm getting pretty sick of it.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Ok so I'm watching Raw because im an idiot and I saw Cena once again win. Seriously when is the last time he lost a match? Anyway since Nexus debuted all we have heard from WWE is that they are so powerful and unstoppable. Then why can't one of them manage to defeat Cena? Even in the Summerslam match, they can't defeat Cena. So how is it that WWE plans on having Nexus as the most dominate force in the company or on Raw at least like they keep insinuating every single week?

I understand Cena is a top guy but its not like if he loses a few matches to prove Nexus is a true threat that his momentum will be dead. Anyone else find this as messed up as I do? Just wondering how much longer WWE is gonna keep treating the fans like idiots.

Let's see. He lost at Fatal Four Way due to interference from Nexus. He lost the same way to Sheamus at MITB almost two months ago. Nexus has beaten him down again and again and you want to complain about Cena winning? They also beat Cena in a handicapped match. Quit whining.

 

[Tougie]

Yeah dude I know just how you feel. I must be out of my mind to keep giving WWE these chances. Now I'm watching an "Over the Top Rope Challenge". What on god's green earth is this? We have one good segment so far - that being Miz/Bryan - and the rest is terrible! But anyways, I have to agree dude. The way they make Nexus out to be this terrible force to be reckoned with and then not let them defeat Cena shows just how terrified WWE is of putting anyone over Cena. I really hope this ends soon because the machine known as John Cena has been churning out the same product for years now and I'm getting pretty sick of it.

Completely agree. Im 17 and I can remember seeing Raw when I was two years old. Even if I know its gonna suck I cant help but watch. Miz/Bryan segment was good and im so glad Bryan is getting the chance to make it.

Let's see. He lost at Fatal Four Way due to interference from Nexus. He lost the same way to Sheamus at MITB almost two months ago. Nexus has beaten him down again and again and you want to complain about Cena winning? They also beat Cena in a handicapped match. Quit whining.

I'm not whining about anything. I could care less about the storyline I just find it hilarious. Their so dangerous yet in singles they cant stand up for themselves? That defeats the purpose of the stable.

 

[Porter1989]

they said they were the most dominate force on raw because they basically defeated raw and john cena got pinned. but i believe it probably took alot to get cena to put over nexus. randy not so much cause this was his first match with them and he took the loss. john cena is just pathedic and doesnt want to lose. BUT he did put them over after months of beating them. they put nexus over last week over the raw locker room. so they have the right to say that. and i have to say its about time nexus defeated john cena.

 

[enterkey]

Let's see. He lost at Fatal Four Way due to interference from Nexus. He lost the same way to Sheamus at MITB almost two months ago. Nexus has beaten him down again and again and you want to complain about Cena winning? They also beat Cena in a handicapped match. Quit whining.

He might mean when was the last time he lost in a singles match whereas that question is without doubt at MITB against Sheamus but some could say that that loss is tainted as there was interference from Nexus that caused Sheamus to pick up the win. Other than when Nexus has been interfering I honestly don't remember the last time that Cena lost a 1 on 1 match against anyone, clean or dirty. Was it at Elimination Chamber when Batista was basically given the autowin?

 

[Rulk25]

Remember one thing look at what you titled this thread and there is your answer. NEXUS is powerful. The group is the powerful one as individuals they are only so so. Cole has even said that (albeit speaking for the GM). Its like every other group that has existed NWO, Horseman, Evolution... as a group they are near impossible to stop but separated they are vunelarble

 

[Tougie]

He might mean when was the last time he lost in a singles match whereas that question is without doubt at MITB against Sheamus but some could say that that loss is tainted as there was interference from Nexus that caused Sheamus to pick up the win. Other than when Nexus has been interfering I honestly don't remember the last time that Cena lost a 1 on 1 match against anyone, clean or dirty. Was it at Elimination Chamber when Batista was basically given the autowin?

Thats exactly what I meant, sorry I should have been more specific.

Remember one thing look at what you titled this thread and there is your answer. NEXUS is powerful. The group is the powerful one as individuals they are only so so. Cole has even said that (albeit speaking for the GM). Its like every other group that has existed NWO, Horseman, Evolution... as a group they are near impossible to stop but separated they are vunelarble

I made the title as a joke. Nexus is so powerful yet none of them can defeat Cena in one on one action? Yet you look at the members of the groups you named and all of them have had a decent singles career. The only way to make them seem like the ulitmate threat is to attack a 50 year old like Bret Hart. Uh no, that would be to defeat John Cena. And so far none of them have done that are their own. Obviously 5-7 men can beat down any one man, doesnt mean Nexus is powerful. And them losing at Summerslam, especially after it was 2 on one against Cena was pointless. 1 of them cant beat cena, 2 of them cant....but 3 and up Cena has no chance?

 

[HamsterWrestler]

Did anyone see Cena get pinned by Justin Gabriel last week after the 450 Splash?

I'm just wondering, since Cena and his team lost against the Nexus in this 5-on-5 match last week.


Or is this match not in the record books?

 

[Miss Flawless]

Are you fucking kidding me? You are whining. Cena does lose. Think of WWE like a comic book. Cena will lose at first, and then when there isn't even the slightest bit of hope left, Cena wins.

I get what your saying though, Nexus needs more wins. But then again, they looked super powerful last week on the apeshit 900th show. It really depends on how you look at things...

Please, stop being an "idiot" and turn off your T.V, cause then I don't have to hear any more "CENA ALWAYZZ WINZZZ!!!!!11!!!" shit again. Get a clue, buddy. He's the super hero, he's doing his job.

 

[jholcomb22]

So let me get this straight Tougie. Nexus is weak because in singles action, they can't defeat John Cena. You do realize that each member of Nexus is a rookie, right? You do realize that no other superstar in the WWE is beating John Cena one on one clean, right?

When Nexus sticks together, they create mayhem. They aren't dominate as singles, but just wait. It's so obvious that Wade Barrett is going to be WWE champion sooner rather than later. The fact that guys like Darren Young and Justin Gabriel had good matches with Cena and pushed him to the edge show how good they are. Skip was quickly becoming the next Batista before injury, and he still might when he comes back.

How bout you wait until there in the WWE for more than 3 months before you call them weak. It's a new kind of stable built up with completely unproven guys. You talk like this is as good as they will ever be. They will get better. More dominant. In just 3 months, they have defeated more superstars than any of us could have imagined. They have controlled where the championship has gone. They are the future of the company. Get used to that.

And if you really want to see Cena get pinned, either pay the ungodly amount of money for the pay-per-view and cross your fingers, or watch WWE classics when he was still a rapper and losing the intercontinental title constantly to Carlito

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I thought it was a great match. Who cares about wins or loses when both guys put on one heck of a match?

I am more confused why it is okay for Cena to get dogged for being "Super" when the only time Orton loses is when he has title matches.. And that is only because someone else caused him the match. Okay, last week was an weird situation, but it doesn't change the fact that Orton is actually booked like a "Superman" where as Cena is booked as battling against all odds.

 

[InuJoshua]

I think you're missing the point of Nexus...

Nexus isn't supposed to be powerful as individuals. Hell, it's been said on TV numerous times.

What makes Nexus powerful is that together, they are a strong, single unit without individual egos. They are rookies trying to get the recognition they feel they deserve after being humiliated on NXT...

But realistically, they're still rookies, and any one of them winning clean over most of the roster, and ESPECIALLY Cena, would make no sense. The only one who should have a legitimate shot is Barret and MAYBE Gabriel because of the way he's being built as the second in command.

So yes, Nexus is strong. They're just strong in a way that no other stable has been in the past. That's what makes them fresh and exciting to some, or at least to me...

 

[VinnieSunshine]

I made the title as a joke. Nexus is so powerful yet none of them can defeat Cena in one on one action? Yet you look at the members of the groups you named and all of them have had a decent singles career. The only way to make them seem like the ulitmate threat is to attack a 50 year old like Bret Hart. Uh no, that would be to defeat John Cena. And so far none of them have done that are their own. Obviously 5-7 men can beat down any one man, doesnt mean Nexus is powerful. And them losing at Summerslam, especially after it was 2 on one against Cena was pointless. 1 of them cant beat cena, 2 of them cant....but 3 and up Cena has no chance?

So let me get this straight...you think that since guys in NWO, Four Horsemen, and Evolution had good singles matches that Nexus guys should be able to? That Nexus individually should be able to beat Cena the same way they can as a group?

Guys in those other groups were also considered VETERANS of the business. Ok so Evolution had 2 guys that were, but Orton was around in the WWE before he joined the group. Batista was used by his size alone, he was more of a bodyguard figure. I might be wrong but Im pretty sure it wasn't until Orton got kicked out that Batista got pushed. NWO started with Hogan, Hall and Nash. These were guys that were around LOOOOONG before WCW came around, so they were powerhouse players.

Nexus is a bunch of rookies banned together to make an impact. They are going up against guys that have been in the business longer than them. I wouldn't find it very believable if Justin Gabriel or Wade Barrett beat John Cena the first match they had. There is such a saying as "POWER IN NUMBERS" and that is what Nexus is about. Granted Im getting sick of SuperCena, but like another poster said in a different forum, there is such a thing a adrenaline. In times of desperation such as Summerslam, you fight to survive. We as fans have seen much worse and much less believable throughout the years.

If you're going to create a post, dont say it was meant as a joke and dont make it to whine about something YOU dont like. Cena loses and wins. Undertaker had a winning streak when he was younger, hell HE HAS a winning streak at WM, are you gonna whine about THAT too?

 

[Syborgg]

Simply put, John Cena is THE established face of the company and you can't have him cleanly losing to a virtual rookie. It just wouldn't make any sense. I mean think about it, not long ago Batista couldn't beat John Cena, so how is some rookie who's trying to make a name for himself supposed to do it?

I personally think that even though Cena won, the match itself DID build credibility for Justin Gabriel. I mean for once we were able to see some sustained offence from Gabriel and even though he lost they made it almost believable that he could pull out the victory. There's nothing wrong with the way the match was booked. Just because the IWC doesn't like it, doesn't make it wrong.

 

[californiachef84]

The easy answer is that Nexus is not powerful... They are easily the weakest stable that I have ever seen, and cannot even be taken seriously... At least groups like the nWo, Four Horseman, and Evolution had an effect on the ratings when they were around... Nexus hasn't changed the ratings for Raw one single bit... They have actually decreased by .1-.2 points, given any average week... Nobody cares about these guys!!! Outside of the WWE faithful, nobody thinks that this is a good storyline either... This whole story had a good start to it, but it only took a few weeks for it to become a complete joke... The Nexus are not gonna take the WWE back to the promised land...

 

[ForzaItalia]

Well if you have not heard John Cena is Superman and he could never be defeated because then all the little kids will start crying. I think it does make Nexus look very weak because how can they beat Cena in an elimination match, but lose to him every time in singles competition? Nexus is really a joke right now and they will be done soon because they can not even win a match by themselves without any count outs, interferences, or DQ's. The only way they will make it another month or two is if they start getting some gold.

 

[sTyLnK]

Nexus was on the verge of being powerful, but the WWE for some odd reason made them lose at Summerslam. They haven't been the same since then and with poor Skip on the shelf for quite a few months they definitely don't seem powerful. (He added to it with his size)

 

[natlee75]

The easy answer is that Nexus is not powerful... They are easily the weakest stable that I have ever seen, and cannot even be taken seriously...

Filthy Animals... Blue World Order... Right To Censor... Truth Commission... Disciples of Apocalypse... Los Boricuas...

And that's just quickly off the top of my head. Nexus is FAR from the weakest stable.

At least groups like the nWo, Four Horseman, and Evolution had an effect on the ratings when they were around...

I'll give you the nWo and the earlier iterations of the Four Horsemen, although with the Four Horsemen, we're talking way back when NWA/WCW wasn't really much in terms of mainstream fanbase... who knows how well that type of group would do these days?

Evolution? Come on now... that was all about Triple H and Ric Flair. Orton and Batista didn't do much for the ratings.

Nexus hasn't changed the ratings for Raw one single bit... They have actually decreased by .1-.2 points, given any average week...

You're starting to sound like Eric Bischoff, LOL.

I'd love to see the data that led you to the conclusion that Nexus decreased RAW's ratings.

Nobody cares about these guys!!! Outside of the WWE faithful, nobody thinks that this is a good storyline either...

"Outside of the WWE faithful" - What does this even mean?

The Nexus storyline is one of the more interesting ones in both WWE and TNA over the past year. Who'd have thunk that we'd actually have people other than Cena, Orton, Edge, Jericho, etc. in the spotlight?

I suppose if by "nobody" you're just talking about yourself, you may actually be right.

This whole story had a good start to it, but it only took a few weeks for it to become a complete joke... The Nexus are not gonna take the WWE back to the promised land...

What goal do you think WWE had with Nexus other than to finally push some younger talent instead of keeping just the veterans in every single main event of every single PPV like everyone has been demanding for God knows how long?

 

[californiachef84]

Filthy Animals... Blue World Order... Right To Censor... Truth Commission... Disciples of Apocalypse... Los Boricuas...

And that's just quickly off the top of my head. Nexus is FAR from the weakest stable.



I'll give you the nWo and the earlier iterations of the Four Horsemen, although with the Four Horsemen, we're talking way back when NWA/WCW wasn't really much in terms of mainstream fanbase... who knows how well that type of group would do these days?

Evolution? Come on now... that was all about Triple H and Ric Flair. Orton and Batista didn't do much for the ratings.



You're starting to sound like Eric Bischoff, LOL.

I'd love to see the data that led you to the conclusion that Nexus decreased RAW's ratings.



"Outside of the WWE faithful" - What does this even mean?

The Nexus storyline is one of the more interesting ones in both WWE and TNA over the past year. Who'd have thunk that we'd actually have people other than Cena, Orton, Edge, Jericho, etc. in the spotlight?

I suppose if by "nobody" you're just talking about yourself, you may actually be right.



What goal do you think WWE had with Nexus other than to finally push some younger talent instead of keeping just the veterans in every single main event of every single PPV like everyone has been demanding for God knows how long?

Just for starters, none of the "stables" that you mentioned were ever really taken seriously... Perhaps I wasn't direct enough with my assertion... The Nexus IS something that we are all suppose to take seriously... However, I do not get that feeling... I do not fear the Nexus! I don't lay awake at night wondering what they might do next! I just have a "blah" feeling whenever I see those guys... A LOT of people on here are acting like Nexus is the greatest thing that they have ever seen... I honestly enjoyed the character of "Eugene" more than Nexus... As far as the ratings are concerned, the ratings have consistently been right around a 3.2 for several weeks... The 900th episode spiked that number a little bit, but nothing that made me cream my pants... Even less than a year ago the Raw rating consistently held around a 3.5 so I don't quite know how you can argue with that... 3.5 is a larger number than 3.2, okay? If we can agree on simple elementary math then we MIGHT be able to get somewhere...

You also seem to suggest that I am one of those people who was complaining about there not being any "new" talent in the main event... I am all for new talent being in the main event, but for GOD'S SAKE I'D LIKE FOR THERE TO ACTUALLY BE SOME GOOD TALENT!!! The Miz, Jack Swagger, R-Truth, Morrison, Nexus, etc... None of these guys are main event players!!! They are all just TOOLS...

 

[AlwaysHasBeen]

Leave it to WWE to use the same formulas over and over again. You're right about Cena, it's annoying.

What annoyed me more about RAW was the way WWE makes their heels look. Shamus never seems to win matches (clean, at least) and tonight he was whining at the announcers desk about how he has very little chance to win at the NOC PPV, how it's unfair to him??? First off, Shamus is supposed to be a CELTIC WARRIOR, no? TOP HEEL, no? CHAMPION, no? Why is he complaining?! To make matters worse, John Cena ALSO has a headset on and he's offering sarcastic remarks to Shamus, which Shamus makes no effort to respond or defend himself to. WTF? lol.

I remember when it was the smart thing to do to keep opponents away from eachother to build up tension and animosity before the big match at the PPV. But, hey, WWE figures, why not just sit them next to eachother around a commentator's desk comfortably with all of their merchandise on and have them speak in monotonous tones about random shit.

Then, Randy Orton RKOs everybody. Shamus (the CHAMPION) is just like everyone else running into the ring to get RKO'ed and knocked out. Oh, yeah, and DARREN YOUNG? He makes an unexpected return, and just when you think WWE might be doing some interesting angle with Young and Barrett or something...nope. They cut Darren Young's momentum short by having him stupidly walk into the ring at Orton's beckoning finger just to get Diamond Cuttered as well. WTF.

Then, the two top faces stare at eachother in the ring and Michael Cole orgasms to the idea of these two facing eachother next week. Two guys who I thought vowed never to face eachother again for the title. Or at least maybe that's just what I wanted to hear. lol.

 

[californiachef84]

Leave it to WWE to use the same formulas over and over again. You're right about Cena, it's annoying.

What annoyed me more about RAW was the way WWE makes their heels look. Shamus never seems to win matches (clean, at least) and tonight he was whining at the announcers desk about how he has very little chance to win at the NOC PPV, how it's unfair to him??? First off, Shamus is supposed to be a CELTIC WARRIOR, no? TOP HEEL, no? CHAMPION, no? Why is he complaining?! To make matters worse, John Cena ALSO has a headset on and he's offering sarcastic remarks to Shamus, which Shamus makes no effort to respond or defend himself to. WTF? lol.

I remember when it was the smart thing to do to keep opponents away from eachother to build up tension and animosity before the big match at the PPV. But, hey, WWE figures, why not just sit them next to eachother around a commentator's desk comfortably with all of their merchandise on and have them speak in monotonous tones about random shit.

Then, Randy Orton RKOs everybody. Shamus (the CHAMPION) is just like everyone else running into the ring to get RKO'ed and knocked out. Oh, yeah, and DARREN YOUNG? He makes an unexpected return, and just when you think WWE might be doing some interesting angle with Young and Barrett or something...nope. They cut Darren Young's momentum short by having him stupidly walk into the ring at Orton's beckoning finger just to get Diamond Cuttered as well. WTF.

Then, the two top faces stare at eachother in the ring and Michael Cole orgasms to the idea of these two facing eachother next week. Two guys who I thought vowed never to face eachother again for the title. Or at least maybe that's just what I wanted to hear. lol.

I couldn't agree with your post more...

What pisses me off the most is that ALL of us already know that the Orton vs Cena match next week will not have a clear cut winner... Someone is gonna come out and get involved in this match, because GOD FORBID Cena or Orton lose cleanly... The formula is sooooooooooooooo outdated and soooooooooooooooo predictable... Yet the WWE Universe still tunes in every week and has the nerve to be angry at people like us for not buying into this garbage...

 

[VinnieSunshine]

Leave it to WWE to use the same formulas over and over again. You're right about Cena, it's annoying.

What annoyed me more about RAW was the way WWE makes their heels look. Shamus never seems to win matches (clean, at least) and tonight he was whining at the announcers desk about how he has very little chance to win at the NOC PPV, how it's unfair to him??? First off, Shamus is supposed to be a CELTIC WARRIOR, no? TOP HEEL, no? CHAMPION, no? Why is he complaining?! To make matters worse, John Cena ALSO has a headset on and he's offering sarcastic remarks to Shamus, which Shamus makes no effort to respond or defend himself to. WTF? lol.

First off thats how Sheamus is being built. Go back a few weeks ago where he "hand picked" Zach Ryder to defend his title, beats him clean in about 2 seconds then says he's taking 30 days off. almost EVERY heel champion complains about a GM placing then in a match where the odds are stacked against them.

I remember when it was the smart thing to do to keep opponents away from eachother to build up tension and animosity before the big match at the PPV. But, hey, WWE figures, why not just sit them next to eachother around a commentator's desk comfortably with all of their merchandise on and have them speak in monotonous tones about random shit.

Its used to build the match at NOC. What were they supposed to do, have Sheamus and Edge run down after the match then have Cena run down and save the day? Its all for the fans at home and it adds something else to the match. I was actually laughing at some of the things Cena says, but most times I tune out all commentary period.

Then, Randy Orton RKOs everybody. Shamus (the CHAMPION) is just like everyone else running into the ring to get RKO'ed and knocked out. Oh, yeah, and DARREN YOUNG? He makes an unexpected return, and just when you think WWE might be doing some interesting angle with Young and Barrett or something...nope. They cut Darren Young's momentum short by having him stupidly walk into the ring at Orton's beckoning finger just to get Diamond Cuttered as well. WTF.

Young was there for a distraction and it also setup something for next week with him and Nexus. Orton's character is like the modern day Stone Cold. How many times have we seen Austin offer a beer to someone and be friendly, only to get a stunner and a middle finger? Its also supposed to make Orton look dominate going into NOC, next week it will be someone else standing there. They do it for every big ME for a PPV.

Then, the two top faces stare at eachother in the ring and Michael Cole orgasms to the idea of these two facing eachother next week. Two guys who I thought vowed never to face eachother again for the title. Or at least maybe that's just what I wanted to hear. lol.

Here's a thought...if you are not happy with the product and are going to come on these boards and complain, turn the TV off or switch to another channel. I personally am content with what WWE is doing with Nexus and the product. Yes they have made some mistakes and some WTF moments, but what is WWE here for? Its called ENTERTAINMENT!!!

 

[Ferbian]

The Nexus looked good last night. They didn't win any of their matches, but they still looked good. They got the chance to start the show with a strong promo playing off their big victorious accomplishments last week, as well as they got the chance to be put into matches that actually matters to watch.

Justin Gabriel looked amazing against John Cena last night. He got to dominate, as well as to pull off some great moves. He looked like he could've actually won it, but obviously he didn't. That didn't hurt him however, because he got to look great against John, and that's what matters in the end. Not necessarily winning, but looking great.

Wade got to look great as well, I felt that he needed that victory. But the fact that we get to see John Cena vs Randy Orton is definitely better than seeing John Cena vs Wade Barrett again. So it made sense to have Wade loose.

Besides, he got to look good against Randy, like the guys at ring-side mentioned numerous times "He's showing something, he's showing that he belongs, and that he can hang with Randy Orton". That's definitely verbally pushing the guy, while he proves it in the ring.

Shame Heath Slater didn't get to go up against Sheamus though. Could've been an interesting match actually.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

Wade got to look great as well, I felt that he needed that victory. But the fact that we get to see John Cena vs Randy Orton is definitely better than seeing John Cena vs Wade Barrett again. So it made sense to have Wade loose.

I disagree. I really think they are saving Barrett vs Cena for a PPV. Which means I am buying because I REALLY wanted to see that match when it was listed on the dirt sheet sites.


I thought Nexus looked great on Raw too.. And by "Nexus" I mean "Barrett" and "Gabriel".

I know people aren't big on Gabriel's mic skills, but I think his "douche-y" smile and his constant cold stares between every other couple of words really add to what he said. His match with Cena last night sort of exposed him as a pseudo spot-monkey, but the guy has incredible charisma. Much more than the Morrisons, Teddy Jrs, McIntyres, etc. He managed to get his 450 splash over as something bad. You know when he goes to the top, the crowd is going to boo him because the guy getting it is going to get hurt.

If he turns on Wade, that is gonna be a great moment. Especially since Wade has done something that has been really hard for a lot of guys.. He is getting booed like nobody's business. Wade has such an aura and presence about him that you really can't explain. Kinda like how Maryse, despite not doing stuff that the IWC looks for in Divas, is just a bazillion times much more interesting than the rest of the divas.

I ranted about Orton enough, so I ain't gonna talk about that match.

 

[Ferbian]

I disagree. I really think they are saving Barrett vs Cena for a PPV. Which means I am buying because I REALLY wanted to see that match when it was listed on the dirt sheet sites.

Oh you mean like the numerous encounters both promo, beat-down and match wise they've been saving?

Wade and John have had more in-ring encounters than anybody in the WWE roster have had encounters with anybody in the last 3 months time period. Wade have been a part of beating down John, cutting promos towards him, as well as having had matches with him two or three times (One as the replacement for Jericho against John in the beat the clock I believe it was as well as Summerslam, I'm in doubt about a 3rd encounter).

However, Randy Orton and John Cena have barely been in touching distance ever since Randy turned tweener. The last time these two had a match where they actually were against each other were at Elimination Chamber. That's definitely enough to warrant them meeting now, considering the new alignment of Randy.

Wade and John is definitely gonna face more though. But I doubt the fact that they're "saving it" is the reason to Randy vs John Cena. Especially considering the saving it, was pretty much lost months ago.