This is why when Nexus is finally dis-banded, most of those guys will probably fade away never to be heard from again. Daniel Bryan and Wade Barrett will most likely be the only 2 left in the near future. Without being a group, most of these guys are nothing. Hell even Barrett is just a rookie in his own right. I sure as hell hope they don't put the WWE title on him this early and if they do, make it a short run something similar to Randy Orton's first World Title run.
*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread
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Really? No I'm sorry, but as much as I hate the idea, I would rather HHH, or Vince be the "man behind it all" then Kane. That would make no sense. Kane works best alone. Teaming him with a bunch of rookies would kill what Kane has left of his dominate monster side.
Penguinf00d
New Member
Um, way to be harsh on people. Let's see you go out there and try to do what they do.
OT : I see Barett obviously staying, and if played right, Sheffield can have a successful career. He has the look, and isn't too bad in the ring. He needs to work on his mic skills and a little bit more on his in-ring abilites. Everytime I see Sheffield come out, I'm always interested in him, especially that clothesline of his.
OT : I see Barett obviously staying, and if played right, Sheffield can have a successful career. He has the look, and isn't too bad in the ring. He needs to work on his mic skills and a little bit more on his in-ring abilites. Everytime I see Sheffield come out, I'm always interested in him, especially that clothesline of his.
Losing at SS really hurt them as a group. I was hoping they would win and be on a high for at least a little longer. They haven't been the same since then and now with Darren Young kicked out and Skip out for months with a broken ankle, it's just honestly not the same. Skip is a big menacing guy. Personally I think him being gone really hurts the group the most. He provides the group with a tough attitude.
Green Bay Wisconsin
Dark Match Winner
I don't think they look weak. I mean when was the last time Cena was pinned clean.Also Orton was pinned clean and the WWE Champion was pinned clean.So that to me doesn't make them look weak. One match on a PPV (SS) doesn't mean 2 months of Nexus meant nothing.
I'm not understanding the hate to be honest. They're rookies. They ARE inexperienced. They ARE weak. How can you fault them for that? It's part of their gimmick. It's why they absolutely need the numbers game to stand any chance.
Basically they are using guerrilla warfare tactics to take down a much more experienced and powerful adversary. They're David vs. Goliath. They're the fledgling US vs. The World Dominating British Empire. The only real difference (depending on your historical p.o.v.) is that they are the heels of the piece and not the heroes. If anything it's amazing that WWE could make them look like threats at all.
On paper they simply aren't strong enough. Individually they aren't strong enough. They only thing they have to capitalize on is their synergism. It's in their very name; Nexus: 1. a binding, joining, or fastening. 2. a means of connection; tie; link 3. a connected series or group. It's like they're Voltron, or since they're heels, Devastator from the Transformers. They only really work well when they work together or have the numbers. Take the numbers away and/or force singles matches and you find their kryptonite of sorts and then they have to resort to even more heel tactics just to stay afloat. And since they are actively exploiting and using their synergy to get the better of the bigger badder—but none the less still very much face—WWE, it's actually a great heel tactic as it apparently creates a great deal of anger and frustration.
Basically they are using guerrilla warfare tactics to take down a much more experienced and powerful adversary. They're David vs. Goliath. They're the fledgling US vs. The World Dominating British Empire. The only real difference (depending on your historical p.o.v.) is that they are the heels of the piece and not the heroes. If anything it's amazing that WWE could make them look like threats at all.
On paper they simply aren't strong enough. Individually they aren't strong enough. They only thing they have to capitalize on is their synergism. It's in their very name; Nexus: 1. a binding, joining, or fastening. 2. a means of connection; tie; link 3. a connected series or group. It's like they're Voltron, or since they're heels, Devastator from the Transformers. They only really work well when they work together or have the numbers. Take the numbers away and/or force singles matches and you find their kryptonite of sorts and then they have to resort to even more heel tactics just to stay afloat. And since they are actively exploiting and using their synergy to get the better of the bigger badder—but none the less still very much face—WWE, it's actually a great heel tactic as it apparently creates a great deal of anger and frustration.
mayankeagle
Pre-Show Stalwart
First of all, while every Tom Dick and Harry in the world had been guessing that Nexus was involved in taking out the Undertaker, it just never made sense. They are on Raw, and that's the show they are trying to dominate, and are already in a feud with Cena, Bret Hart and the rest of Raw. Is that not enough to deal with? Why would they also start feuding with Undertaker on Smackdown?
The Kane story is different from Nexus. They were both developed due to different reasons. Nexus was developed to help bring those guys to the main stage and to increase TV ratings by letting them shine in the absence of guys like HHH. It helped the business that way. Kane's push was done because Undertaker got injured, and so Mysterio had to postpone his vacation, he was made the champ and then Kane won the belt from him when it was time for Mysterio to go for his vacation. This is probably the final showdown between Undertaker and Kane - the final push for Kane and it may even result in his retirement, because in all fairness, who's hands should he retire at if not the Undertaker?
The whole storyline on Smackdown is about how Undertaker has become weak due to his vegetative state (which doesn't make sense to an extent since he was the dead-man who can't be hurt), and how Kane has now become stronger - therefore he does NOT need the Nexus to help him in taking out the Undertaker. He did it by himself, and that's what the story is all about, and that's how he's gonna get his push and look as the stronger brother in this rivalry. I, for one, never believed that Nexus was ever going to be a part of this story, and it was confirmed at Summerslam that they're not, and I'm surprised that people are still "imagining" them to be involved in this story. That's what it is - just an "imagination", at best a pipe dream. Get over it.
The Kane story is different from Nexus. They were both developed due to different reasons. Nexus was developed to help bring those guys to the main stage and to increase TV ratings by letting them shine in the absence of guys like HHH. It helped the business that way. Kane's push was done because Undertaker got injured, and so Mysterio had to postpone his vacation, he was made the champ and then Kane won the belt from him when it was time for Mysterio to go for his vacation. This is probably the final showdown between Undertaker and Kane - the final push for Kane and it may even result in his retirement, because in all fairness, who's hands should he retire at if not the Undertaker?
The whole storyline on Smackdown is about how Undertaker has become weak due to his vegetative state (which doesn't make sense to an extent since he was the dead-man who can't be hurt), and how Kane has now become stronger - therefore he does NOT need the Nexus to help him in taking out the Undertaker. He did it by himself, and that's what the story is all about, and that's how he's gonna get his push and look as the stronger brother in this rivalry. I, for one, never believed that Nexus was ever going to be a part of this story, and it was confirmed at Summerslam that they're not, and I'm surprised that people are still "imagining" them to be involved in this story. That's what it is - just an "imagination", at best a pipe dream. Get over it.
Gregor_Samsa
Occasional Pre-Show
I understand the sentiment. Seeing the five of them standing there tonight was not nearly as impressive as when it was seven. I really never had a problem with Darren Young. I think it was his hair that elicited such vitriolic hatred from people. And Sheffield is a big wild-eyed badass whose absence really hurts the image of the group. They don't seem as intimidating anymore. Perhaps this is why the WWE let Slater get a clean pin on the WWE Champ, Gabriel get a clean pin on the face of the company and Barrett get a clean pin on the Viper.
They know Nexus doesn't look as strong as they once did so they booked the main event tonight to remind us that these guys are still a legitimate threat.
Sheamus made Heath Slater look like George Hamilton.
They know Nexus doesn't look as strong as they once did so they booked the main event tonight to remind us that these guys are still a legitimate threat.
Sheamus made Heath Slater look like George Hamilton.
ForzaItalia
Layeth The Smackdown!
The Nexus to me now is just boring and they are just taking up other wrestlers' ring time to be honest. They had so many chances to get this faction to be the next big thing:
1. The Invasion- went really well and made this faction a threat
2. Beat Downs- also worked and made this faction hated by many fans
3. Elimination Matches- too many to be exact and makes them look weak
4. Bullshit Matches- most the matches these guys were in they got lucky and stole the win making them look like they can not win a match clean
5. Summer Slam- could have gave them a major boost with a legit win, but they lost and look extremely weak now
To be honest the only way I see the Nexus surviving is if they recruit a new member or two and Barrett wins the WWE title. If neither happens then they are done and I really hope they are done because they were interesting 3 months ago, but now they are annoying and just take up valuable TV time. We all know there is no mastermind behind Nexus and John is never turning heel soon, so just disband the Nexus and continue producing good storylines. If by a chance Nexus does survive then good but it is going to take a lot of time and effort to make them a real threat again.
1. The Invasion- went really well and made this faction a threat
2. Beat Downs- also worked and made this faction hated by many fans
3. Elimination Matches- too many to be exact and makes them look weak
4. Bullshit Matches- most the matches these guys were in they got lucky and stole the win making them look like they can not win a match clean
5. Summer Slam- could have gave them a major boost with a legit win, but they lost and look extremely weak now
To be honest the only way I see the Nexus surviving is if they recruit a new member or two and Barrett wins the WWE title. If neither happens then they are done and I really hope they are done because they were interesting 3 months ago, but now they are annoying and just take up valuable TV time. We all know there is no mastermind behind Nexus and John is never turning heel soon, so just disband the Nexus and continue producing good storylines. If by a chance Nexus does survive then good but it is going to take a lot of time and effort to make them a real threat again.
While I have stated on a few occasions now that I feel the "Higher Power" will have a McMahon name on it, Shane is not one of those. Here is the reason why.
Steph? Maybe, but doubtful. And you can count Linda out (Duh) but never underestimate how far Vince Mcmahon will go. Remember the Corporate Ministry? What was his title? "The Higher Power"
mrbrownstone
Fucking Hostile
No, about a million times no. This was simply a case of storylines intertwining, it was a way to progress the Taker/Kane fued and it was also a way to make the Nexus look strong by beating down the legendarty dedman, nothing more and nothing less.
Tha Wolfpac
Hey Yo...
Nexus is losing it's lustre week by week. Slowly but surely people are starting to lose interest because they are becoming a little predictable, i blame it on how Summerslam went down. So much hype, interest and creative writing and thinking was felt going into that Pay-Per-View but it was utterly disappointing. Skip Sheffield was an integral part of the group because he just always looked dangerous and ready to attack, which boosted their look as a group but now they have lost that, and honestly the group is going downhill due to lack of effort and creativity from WWE management. What started off so well and excellently has become a stale and repetitive process.
FunKay the Inevitable
People Like Me, We Don't Play
I thought last night made Nexus look strong. Not only did they win in the main event, they also took out the Undertaker. While they did have some help from Kane, it was Wade Barrett's moment as he took down the Undertaker and stood tall over the 'Deadman'. Barrett, Slater & Gabriel all looked strong coming off of the elimination match with Gabriel pinning Cena, Slater pinning Sheamus & Barrett pinning Orton. Barrett & Nexus looked very good last night after taking down four superstars.
Chardee Macdennis
Getting Noticed By Management
Ok, so this was beaten TO DEATH when the Nexus first hit the scene, and I for one was not a fan of the theory. But, after last night, and the dead end direction Nexus seems to be headed. I was wondering if creative in fact intends to write them into the Kane/Undertaker storyline. It would make sense, but I still don't know if I'm crazy about the idea. Does anyone care to tell me if they think this would work, or if it would be shit?
Cactus~Clothesline
The Last Gunslinger
I think Nexus should stay away from Kane and Undertaker at this point and just establish themselves as upper mid-card guys. It seem like they are going nowhere fast though.
A move to Smackdown might not be so bad though. Fresh blood.
A move to Smackdown might not be so bad though. Fresh blood.
16mikeytot
DAMN My Ex-Gf just got implants!!!
I agree with you that Nexus should stay away from The Undertaker and Kane feud. Come on though what are you talking about? How are Nexus going no where fast? Do you watch raw? I know that some members futures are brighter than others but you say their just upper midcarders when last time I checked Wade Barrett is in the main event at Night Of Champions.
Cactus~Clothesline
The Last Gunslinger
They were really hot and while they are still doing well and I enjoy watching them, they have cooled off quite a bit. My comments of going no where fast were mainly because of the Wade Barrett talk of a bigger picture. Well what is that big picture? It hasn't be mentioned unless I missed something.
Wade Barrett is only in the main event because he won a rookie competition. They are all rookies still and aren't close to being main event players. Wade is at best Upper card while the rest are middle card.
Wade Barrett is only in the main event because he won a rookie competition. They are all rookies still and aren't close to being main event players. Wade is at best Upper card while the rest are middle card.
Can you say Bragging Rights 2010? Last year Smackdown won by having BS defect. Nexus N was in the poster. How else would they show up there? For Raw? That would go against everything they have done until now.
ckoneagain
Pre-Show Stalwart
I watched Raw last night...watching Jericho and Edge leave made me think...what if they were bought? Yes im suggesting The Junior Million Dollar Man is the leader of Nexus...he's achieving nothing on his own at the moment but he was supposed to be a major talent...just saying...
showstoppaa
Dark Match Jobber
I don't know if this is in the right place, It's about nexus so I put it in the Raw section but if it should be under NXT feel free to move it.
After Kaval's NXT season 2 win, We saw the rest of the eliminated Rookie's jump him, And pretty much destroy him, this was in a way similar to what the nexus did to John Cena in their debut on Raw. So this got me thinking, What if this was some sort of initiation into the Nexus. Nexus are down to 5, so it would make sense for them to add new members, so maybe this could be a way to get their attention, or maybe it was even Wade Barret that put them up to it. They could pick out the rookies who impressed the most, and add them to nexus, getting back to the original 8, or possibly even add all of them to it, and get real strength in numbers.
Do you think this is a possible storyline, and would you like it if this is the way it went? I do like the idea of them joining the nexus, although I also think it could get a bit samey, with the season 2 rookies going the same way as season 1.
After Kaval's NXT season 2 win, We saw the rest of the eliminated Rookie's jump him, And pretty much destroy him, this was in a way similar to what the nexus did to John Cena in their debut on Raw. So this got me thinking, What if this was some sort of initiation into the Nexus. Nexus are down to 5, so it would make sense for them to add new members, so maybe this could be a way to get their attention, or maybe it was even Wade Barret that put them up to it. They could pick out the rookies who impressed the most, and add them to nexus, getting back to the original 8, or possibly even add all of them to it, and get real strength in numbers.
Do you think this is a possible storyline, and would you like it if this is the way it went? I do like the idea of them joining the nexus, although I also think it could get a bit samey, with the season 2 rookies going the same way as season 1.
I'm doubting this will be more additions to The Nexus, especially considering there's rumors that WWE plans on ending that one in the coming months, around October.
The attack last night is most likely gonna be all about the season 2 rookies, and only them. I don't believe they will have any association with The Nexus, nor that there will really come any feud out of it either. I'm convinced mostly that it's either gonna be a one night happening, for the sake of creating some buzz like The Nexus did, or it's gonna spark a new faction, which in itself will be a clusterfuck I'm sure. And if it becomes another faction, it'll fail because it's nowhere near the potential of The Nexus, which is definitely a red hot faction right now, compared to what the season 2 rookies could accomplish. Because let's face it, the season 2 rookies attacked.. Kaval.. The Nexus attacked John fucking Cena.
The attack last night is most likely gonna be all about the season 2 rookies, and only them. I don't believe they will have any association with The Nexus, nor that there will really come any feud out of it either. I'm convinced mostly that it's either gonna be a one night happening, for the sake of creating some buzz like The Nexus did, or it's gonna spark a new faction, which in itself will be a clusterfuck I'm sure. And if it becomes another faction, it'll fail because it's nowhere near the potential of The Nexus, which is definitely a red hot faction right now, compared to what the season 2 rookies could accomplish. Because let's face it, the season 2 rookies attacked.. Kaval.. The Nexus attacked John fucking Cena.
Ultra Awesome
Im standing in Brooklyn/
Agree with Ferbian. I don't believe the NEXUS faction will get any bigger than it is currently and like how the rumors say, NEXUS probably won't last much longer.
Besides, most of the NXT Season 2 competitors don't really strike me as having the right "image" to belong to NEXUS or any similar faction. Simply, the way they look or the way they act gets in the way. Percy Watson, for example, is a hyper-active, easy-going, always happy character. If he were to attack someone like John Cena or any other Raw top superstar (while in NEXUS), it wouldn't make much sense, as people (such as myself) wouldn't "buy" it. Another example, Lucky Cannon, looks too much like a "pretty boy". NEXUS already has Justin Gabriel for that. The heel promo that he gave while speaking on who should win was almost laughable.
The only one of the NXT season 2 I could picture being in NEXUS is Husky Harris. Why? Becuase he has the right attitude, the right look, and is basically another monster, just as Skip Sheffield was. Having Husky Harris could definately make up for the loss of Skip Sheffield. But in reality, I don't see it happening as NEXUS will most likely come to an end soon enough.
Besides, most of the NXT Season 2 competitors don't really strike me as having the right "image" to belong to NEXUS or any similar faction. Simply, the way they look or the way they act gets in the way. Percy Watson, for example, is a hyper-active, easy-going, always happy character. If he were to attack someone like John Cena or any other Raw top superstar (while in NEXUS), it wouldn't make much sense, as people (such as myself) wouldn't "buy" it. Another example, Lucky Cannon, looks too much like a "pretty boy". NEXUS already has Justin Gabriel for that. The heel promo that he gave while speaking on who should win was almost laughable.
The only one of the NXT season 2 I could picture being in NEXUS is Husky Harris. Why? Becuase he has the right attitude, the right look, and is basically another monster, just as Skip Sheffield was. Having Husky Harris could definately make up for the loss of Skip Sheffield. But in reality, I don't see it happening as NEXUS will most likely come to an end soon enough.
Ok so I'm watching Raw because im an idiot and I saw Cena once again win. Seriously when is the last time he lost a match? Anyway since Nexus debuted all we have heard from WWE is that they are so powerful and unstoppable. Then why can't one of them manage to defeat Cena? Even in the Summerslam match, they can't defeat Cena. So how is it that WWE plans on having Nexus as the most dominate force in the company or on Raw at least like they keep insinuating every single week?
I understand Cena is a top guy but its not like if he loses a few matches to prove Nexus is a true threat that his momentum will be dead. Anyone else find this as messed up as I do? Just wondering how much longer WWE is gonna keep treating the fans like idiots.
I understand Cena is a top guy but its not like if he loses a few matches to prove Nexus is a true threat that his momentum will be dead. Anyone else find this as messed up as I do? Just wondering how much longer WWE is gonna keep treating the fans like idiots.
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