*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread

[Tha Wolfpac]

Hey Yo!

Attacking the guest hosts and ending them no sorry dude i dont think so, they've attacked the face of the WWE John Cena, beat down our beloved legends and then pummeled the fucking Chairman of WWE Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

So if they were to attack the guest hosts their is not point they're aren't really making an impact because the guest hosts have no credibility or anything like the previous they've attacked. So no not a good idea. Wolfpac OUT.

 

[Tha Wolfpac]

Hey Yo!

Now i ve been thinking, whilst being entertained by the Nexus angle which i think has played out excellently so far, so good.

But following the history of wrestling all good things must come to an end, one way or another. Especially with stables or tag teams. So it's almost imminent that will be an eventual IMPLOSION in the group we call Nexus.

So this brings me to my questions;

- When will the eventual disbanding of the group happen?
- How will the eventual IMPLOSION happen?

Personally i think, the disbanding of the group will occur once assuming Wade Barrett will become the WWE Champion, the other fellow members will become jealous and will form their own little factions or just become independent and rebel against each other. So that's my input what do you guys think be creative. Have Fun.

.Tha Wolfpac.

 

[Tha Wolfpac]

Hey Yo!

There's been a lot of rumours and mystery surrounding who is the main figurehead behind all the attacks, but let's look at the bgger picture does there really need to be a mastermind. Because if there is a mastermind this is the message or view i have on this matter.

The Nexus group wasn't smart or brave enough without carrying out these attacks without the influence of someone else, or somebody instructing them to do these actions. Now it will draw them heat blah blah, but in the long run it will hurt the groups crediblity, because they will always be the guys that needed the mystery mastermind to encourage them to be what they are today. So really does there to need to be a mastermind, can't we just accept the fact that these guys are intelligent and ruthless enough to carry out these assaults.

To sum up answer these questions, it will cure any current diseases you have serously; Kidding;

- Do you or do you not agree with my argument?
- Do they really need a mastermind?

That is all. Thankyou.

 

[sTyLnK]

Well, honestly they have taken everyone out. So, taking out guest hosts would not be surprising. I have a feeling they might take out a guest host down the road, but week after week? That would be pointless. The only guy they are taking out week after week is Cena because he's the top dog so to speak. So, they have a legit reason.

On an off note, being called Nexus is kind of funny to me. I play WoW and that is the name of a dungeon. Yeah, silly I know, but it's what I think of.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

The night after the Survivor Series. Might as well call it.

That is, assuming Barrett has long since returned before then and this storyline with them against the Company has run its course fully to an Elimination match where the loser likely walks.

The Nexus (what kind of name is that, by the way) was a very cleaver and smart move on the part of the Company to bond together all of the new, green/raw talent, and help them to grow as a group - instead of as individuals. Because the truth is, beyond Barrett and maybe David Otunga, none of them have true qualities that'll make them stand-out or be cared about for a future in this Company.

The Group will stick together until, either little by little, or all at once - the Company believes "this individual works, this one doesn't" and they split them off into their own ways. Cutting out the ones who haven't grown all together.

As for storyline purposes, I strongly believe it'll be similar to the EC-WCW storyline, in which a Survivor Series match will be had and if the Nexus lose, they must disband.

If thats not the case, then the only other logical thinking I could come up with is John Cena, or someone else equally big will simply take them out one-by-one (ala DDP and the n.W.o.) at which point when each individual returns from an injury, they'll return fresh with a new direction - and, if anything, angry at everyone else from the group for not protecting them before.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I honestly like this idea and agree they should do it. I've seen a couple negative posts about how it would be a step backwards but I don't see how. To be honest, in the span of 3 weeks they've done almost all they can do - without repeating the process any further and looping backwards.

Destroying (and thus ending) the Guest Hosts storylines would be the next logical step in their evolution. Not because its a step above taking out the Heavyweight Champion, Legends, or Chairman.. but because its yet another statement. They aren't just targeting Wrestlers, and WWE related employees.. they're targeting anyone that opposes them. (ie. the media)

All they'd have to do is take out one, and then the story could flow in that no other Celebrities would want to risk being hurt at their hands.

This would also, if nothing else, make the Nexus even more of a threat - because by a logical point of view - its them attacking the sponsors that bring in money, for the Company. So, yes. I like the idea - I think it has great potential and could very well happen.

 

[The Duke]

Hey Yo!

Attacking the guest hosts and ending them no sorry dude i dont think so, they've attacked the face of the WWE John Cena, beat down our beloved legends and then pummeled the fucking Chairman of WWE Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

So if they were to attack the guest hosts their is not point they're aren't really making an impact because the guest hosts have no credibility or anything like the previous they've attacked. So no not a good idea. Wolfpac OUT.

A) one of the dumbest posts i've ever read. Sorry. Learn SOME english.

B) This is actually a great idea. I understand that they get some Blist talent, blah blah blah. But think about it. GREAT way to explain the death of the Guest host. Have them destroy a few B list guests, maybe even an A lister or another legend, whatever. But like Muttley said, call it an insurance risk or say no one will accept to come. It's brilliant. Nexus can scare it off and FINALLY kill it. There have been FAR more horrid guest host's than entertaining ones and this cycle MUST end! Rob Zombie did NOTHING this week and who knows what the future holds. I say let Nexus kill it once and for all and let the wrestling happen. Maybe in a matter of time Vince will realize the PG rating is dumb and that'll die along with the guest host thing. It could be fantastic! A great way to end a flash in the pan idea.

 

[The Duke]

I don't know, nor really care what happens with Nexus. It's a great idea that I don't think will last til Survivor Series, especially if Barrett is out that long not being allowed to work in the states. I do however want to post real quick on the wonderment of what is it even called Nexus. A Nexus is a means of a connection, a tie. It means a connected group or series therefore is perfect for these guys. They have a connection as wanting to have a contract and ultimately receiving that and then making their mark in the company.

i think it'll die sooner than everyone thinks and I blame the guy with the crazy hair!

 

[JETER123]

I think the implosion will start soon. I honestly think the Nexus angle will be done by August. One by one, each member will either leave, or get kicked out.

I'm suprised nobody is talking about how Justin Gabriel hesitated doing the 450 on Steamboat, and then looked back with a guilty face when the Nexus was walking up the ramp. It's completely obvious that he is the first guy to go.

 

[blair4107]

Do they need one? No, not really. Will they have one? I do figure the secret GM is the leader and it's most likely Cole. WWE has actually never truly alluded to there being a mastermind behind Nexus past Wade Barrett but it just seems like it's where they will naturally go with it.

Reasons I think Cole is the secret GM/mastermind of Nexus:
- He has effectively avoided contact with Nexus.
- He's the "voice" of the GM and getting major heat when those dings or whatever chime in.
- It easily jives with the Daniel Bryan firing storyline (true or not [obviously true] they did bring it into the story as soon as he was let go).
- It gives a chance for him to hopefully not be as boring as he is and give RAW a more heel/face dynamic in the announce team.
-Nexus always seems to come out ahead with the "rules."

"I just recieved an e-mail from the anonymous general manager and he has a major announcement as to his identity. Aaaaand the anonymous general manager isss.......ME! VINTAGE BABY!"

 

[Rulk25]

Makes sense he was the most ill fit after all he is a high flyer and people have a hard time booing them. Kick Him out and stick him with Bourne Give us a tag team that people will mark for maybe even give them a shirt to sell and put them against Nexus


Now back to the main question when will Nexus implode. We have 1-2 scenarios.
1) Wade Barret clears up his Visa and gets his butt back in the ring and boom the angle lasts for months
2) Wade Barret is sidelined bc of the issue and bam the Nexus implodes NEXT WEEK. GM dont like their explanation and boom all gone Otunga heads to Smackdown and wheels and eels his way into a job though Vicky and maybe Skip gets hired by Ted Dibiase to be his new "Virgil" and the rest either head back to FCW (Heath, Gabriel) or get FE'd (Young and Tarver)

I think the implosion will start soon. I honestly think the Nexus angle will be done by August. One by one, each member will either leave, or get kicked out.

I'm suprised nobody is talking about how Justin Gabriel hesitated doing the 450 on Steamboat, and then looked back with a guilty face when the Nexus was walking up the ramp. It's completely obvious that he is the first guy to go.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don't think a mastermind is needed, but look at it from The Nexus' POV, they are rookies, are they really THAT clever to have pulled off the attacks on their own??

Do you or do you not agree with my argument?
I kinda do agree with your argument...

Do they really need a mastermind?
We don't, but i think it will add the extra spice into the angle IF there is one...

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

- When will the eventual disbanding of the group happen?
Im guessing after Survivor Series, they have obviously thought again about dropping the ppv, and it may just be due to this angle...it will come to an end at this event hopefully..I would also like it if it was a involving both brands...

- How will the eventual IMPLOSION happen?
I think it wil lcome down to a 5-5 elimination match at Survivor Series...I do think Wade Barrett may have a title run maybe for a month!, but that won't make jelousy, we may have someone leave..but who knows...after they lose the match, some will go back to FCW, some will re-debut under new gimmicks and some will just stick to a brand...

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don't think it will do them any good, attacking guest hosts every week..how will that end them, a fresh guest host comes every week...

Also TBH, VKM can just phase the guest hosts out and we wouldn't have even noticed...

And also like some others have said, guest hosts are nothing, if Nexus are going to attack weak guest hosts every week, it's not gonna make them look strong, but like weak shits making no impact because they are jumping those who can't even do anything...

 

[Барбоса]

At the moment I think there is no plan for there to be a mastermind behind Nexus as Creative are happy for it to be an invasion/vehicle for Barrett.

However, I do think that the writers have been clever to leave numerous hints at who could possibly be such a mastermind, whether it is Michael Cole or Sheamus never being caught up in a beatdown, Jericho's mentioning of Barrett's success, the anonymous GM who has yet to punish Nexus (in fact he rewarded them) or even the rumours of HHH's eventual return.

A Nexus Mastermind is a back-up storyline at the moment but could easily be slingshotted into the main picture

 

[Big Jer]

The greatest finish to the Nexus angle would have been/could be.... after they beat up Steamboat and all, or some others in the future; when they got near the top of the ramp acting all cocky and everything, would have been to hear the infamous sound of the glass breaking and Steve Austin appearing with some other legends and laying some 'Whoop Ass' down on Nexus. The crown would raise the roof if that would have happened....

 

[legendkiller2332]

It is too soon for Nexus to break up. Barrett is being reported back in the country by now and back on RAW monday. As for Justin Gabrel hesitating hitting the 450 on Steamboat...I think that was more for pause because typically moves like a 450 are fan favorites and quite difficult to pull off. By waiting then just hitting it makes people hate when he goes up. The group will break up its just a matter of when I say Bragging Rights it happens

 

[M-Eklipse]

I pretty much with the general consensus that it will happen sometime around SummerSlam. They can only drag this whole gang beat-down thing on for so long, eventually it's gonna seem old an no one is gonna care as much as they do now. However, there is still the matter of this 'mysterious leader' thing that they could always pull out of their hat.

Anyways, when I think of the eventual 'implosion' of Nexus, my mind can't help but to go to Justin Gabriel. I know it's been mentioned that he stalls on the top rope, but it's more then that. Every time he does his 450 Splash, they always take time to zoom in on his face, and you can see a feeling of potential regret there. If you go all they way back from John Cena, to Mr. McMahon, to more recently Steamboat, it seems as if he is getting more and more doubtful every time he goes to the top rope. I don't know if anyone would agree, but in my opinion that's what I've seen thus far. There's also the fact that Bryan Danielson's 90 clause will be up a few days before SummerSlam goes down, so he may just pop up again as a last minute x-factor to join some sort of alliance that has formed against Nexus, if that ever happens of course.

 

[Ferbian]

I'm not certain when the implosion would happen, but I think Will said the most possible scenario of when: Survivor Series, because they will most likely be thrown in there like a team to fight some of the other roster members, only to argue and disband.

I can't really see any other way they would do it if they want it to have a proper impact, unless they disband slowly one by one because of jealousy towards Wade Barrett (that is if he becomes champion of some sort) and turn on him one by one like Evolution kind of did.

There's a lot of different scenario's that could have this working, and working with an impact, but I think the two above mentioned are those I find most possible, as well as those I would most likely prefer to watch, they need to make some kind of impacting breakup out of it.

 

[OutsiderDX]

I think the most beneficial way is to have half the group lean face and the others stay heel. (much much later) But 'ike LK said, you can see the slight remorse in Justin. Then eventually the split can happen, which leads to natural fueds with each other, that the young guys can be involved in.

Then after that it's dog-eat-dog- so who survivors and has a job after the initial run is finished.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

The only person I want to see as the Nexus mastermind if it isn't Wade Barrett is Chris Jericho... and that's only because of the relationship between him and Wade Barrett. Those two had the closest Pro/Rookie relationship out of both NXT seasons, and it even appeared that Jericho wanted Wade to do well. They can spin it as Jericho wanting to make sure Wade succeeded, so together, they came up with the plan. Anyone else would either be a letdown, anticlimactic, or feel shoehorned in. Anyone else would also undermine Wade Barrett's credibility. Everything we've seen regarding Wade Barrett is that he's extremely smart, and he's a great talker. Why would there be a need for a mastermind when Barrett is pretty much a very believable guy to be in that role to begin with?

Also, VERY good news about Wade.

The new issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter briefly touched on the immigration status of Wade Barrett and Drew McIntyre. While Dave Meltzer did not have anything new to add about McIntyre, he made it clear that Barrett's situation "The situation with Barrett was neither unexpected nor as serious as it’s been made out" as he and the company were preparing for it for the last several weeks. He's should be back in the United States tomorrow and working Raw this coming Monday, so thankfully the Nexus vs Raw angle is not dead in the water.

Thank god. This angle would not have been able to survive without Wade Barrett, because the other six aren't nearly as good on the mic, or a true leader. To me, Wade Barrett just has that "IT" factor. He's extremely good on the mic, showed that he can cut a damn good promo on the fly (on Otunga), and he's only going to get better in the ring. He's a future star, and he's easily buyable as the leader of the Nexus. I can't wait to see what the Nexus does next... I just really hope that the attacks this time around are different than what we've seen. Yes, the way they picked the legends off one by one was very cool and indeed, it was different, but it ended the same. A new formula is needed.

 

[Money Inc.]

Hopefully the WWE continues this at least until the Survivor Series.

I would like to see a team NXT vs Team WWE in a War Games (we most likely won't get a war games, but hopefully atleast we get a no DQ elimination)

Not to mention Survivor Series is November 22nd which is a good 3 weeks after Linda McMahon's campaign is over so hopefully Danielson is back in time to join team WWE and make the storyline that much better!

 

[waylonmercy]

I hope the group remains strong and keeps viewers interested. If that is the case I'd be happy if at the Royal Rumble the chips start falling into place for their demise. Wade Barrett will eliminate the SECOND strongest member portrayed in the group and cause hostility. The following night they will have a confrontation and it will be forgiven but not forgotten. In the following weeks another episode will happen and this time accidental. Same deal, forgive but not forgotten then Wade Barrett will turn on that member OR the group will turn on him and all will go solo due to the chaos.

 

[The Doctor]

Here's a crazy idea, one that may or may not work.

What if there isn't an implosion? What if they quietly drift away from each other, though sometimes show up to help each other out, in tag matches or by interference? Not all stables need to have a dramatic falling out, with people becoming Jannetys and HBKs. They don't need to be the actual Nexus stable, but the connection between them could still be there. Kind of like HBK and Triple H. They were always shown as friends, even when DX wasn't around, so why can't that happen with Nexus?

 

[mikeyboy]

i think it will probably happen around or right after summerslam and im sure it will be because of members being jealous of the attention others are getting . what i think would be cool is Danielson comes back and there is some issues of who should take the leadership role and part of the group sides with him and the others side with Barrett thus creating two seperate factions.