**MERGED** John Cena Thread - Heel Turn, Matches, Etc. (Keep it in here!!)

[deadelviX]

it's really quite simple and alot of the people who responded already are dead on.
i'm not a fan of Cena...never was... thuganomics or not. don't care for him..

however here is what i think the problem is... everybody roots for the underdog! when can you remember the last time that Cena was booked as the underdog and not the other way around. Cena is ALWAYS booked as the stronger person in every feud. Even with Punk.

Hulk Hogan always had more people behind him because every time he went up against someone.. we thought for sure that this could be the one he loses.

even The Undertaker's wrestlemania streak. the past few years they booked it in a way that we thought... "oh yeah.. they're gonnna give it to (Orton)...or (HBK)...or..hey.. he beat HBK one year and now they'll give it to him this year...or...HHH will win because HBK will interfere..." etc. the point is... we KNOW he's not gonna lose...but somehow they always put a little bit of doubt in our minds and make us think that this will be the one.

look at Hogan's run. there are people on this board that are old enough to remember... Hogan was never booked as the sure thing. he'd show up on Piper's Pit...or the Funeral Parlor...or The Barber Shop...or the Brother Love Show... and get slapped by...Andre the Giant...squashed by The Earthquake... pummeled by Slaughter, Adnan, and Mustafa...

...he may have been the big hereo we always had a small feeling that Hogan might not beat this guy. So we cheered him on. he wasn't necessarily an UNDERDOG per say... but he was booked like one.

Cena shows up on every show.. runs to the ring... clears it of all the bad guys.. and plays the same invincible goodie two shoes character he has for years.

he doesn't necessarily have to turn heel... but if he was booked differently and not made to look so dominant.. we might WANT to see if he can beat his opponent.

to stay on topic... kids don't care.. nor do they matter as far as quality storylines go. they'll watch ANYTHING and like it. adults have seen everything and need to see something more compelling and challenging to entertain us.

 

[mb47]

Cena never ever needs a full heel turn. In fact in my personal opinion it would be a disaster for WWE if they ever make it happen.

Cena has been face for a really long time now, he's always walked out on top against an opponent in the end. Of course he has lost the title and matches but he's never lost the "war" so to speak against anyone in a feud for a long time.

This Kane angle is working very well. As many have said Cena is acting more as a "tweener" and not a full heel. I have no complaints over that and I have no complaints if after this feud he goes back to being a face as he was. My problem right now is that Cena will end up beating Kane and coming out on top...again.

What's really needed is Cena to have a serious feud for several months (hopefully over the summer) against an opponent and Cena NOT coming out on top at the end of it. The feud needs to end with him LOSING it over all.

As said before me this would be refreshing and give off the impression that Cena won't always come out on top, that he can be beaten and that there is other talent that can match him. This not only helps Cena have more formidable opponents but it would be A HUGE push for some of the young guys to come out on top of a feud with Cena.

The more Cena has trouble winning the feuds the more his attitude can change in to being more aggressive and the more fans will root behind him to see him top a heel that MAY actually be seen as having more chance of winning than Cena.

 

[King of the Words]

I think it doesn't really matter whether he's face or heel. A heel turn would be a refreshing change but the problem to me is that there is just too much Cena. Back in the day when Hulkamania was running wild it was a treat to see him. He wasn't there on WWE programing every single week, but Cena is and it gets old in a hurry. I think less is more. The fans need more of a break from cena especially if he is going to stay super face. Give us a chance to miss him. Of course people aren't going to like someone who is pushed down their throats every week and is always the main guy who comes out on top. It's boring and mind numbing, and just bad writing and booking. Give us a break from him and it just might help. People are saying that now in the pg era they can do an r rated segment every now and then and it actually means something, instead of having them every show. But yet they have to overdose us on Super Cena and expect us not to get sick of him. Sound hypicritical to me. If less is more than try it out with cena too!

 

[Azane]

Keeping up with the "embrace the hate" while still fighting to rise above it may very well be the angle he needs to pull this off.

As long as Cena continues to be an anti-heel tweener, the deep voiced audience will start to like him.

Of course, there is a stigma against him that might not be overcomable, he's spent too long being supercena that some fans won't even like him when he does what they "want".

But I have a very good feeling that Embracing the hate will add a whole need dimension to mr. Cena that could very well give the IWC and other smark heel lovers a reason to cheer him.

 

[svsuperfly]

I'm a deep voice and I can not stand Cena. It's not because of his lack of wrestling moves. It's plain and simple for me, he's a do gooder boy scout that just makes me nauseous. The Ned Flanders of wrestling. Someone who is always the victim and then saves the day. It's stale and it's getting boring.

The ONLY way for me to change into a Cena supporter at this point, is if he does something epic like a total image change. He has to have a epic Hollywood Hogan heel turn, bottom-line. Doesn't necessarily have to be the same Hollywood type character, but something as jaw dropping and charismatic. If not, his matches will always be boring to me. He either overcomes adversity to win again or someone screws him out of the match.


Old School Wrassstlin 4-Life

 

[robinkom]

First of all, I hate Cena, and nothing will change that. I've always hated him, even during his "Doctor of Thuganomics" gimmick. McMahon really doesn't need to concern himself with the adult males like me that hate him, winning us over is pretty much impossible and a waste of resources. We have CM Punk built up for us, we don't need Cena.

The best thing he could do is work over Cena's loyal fans even more and for as long as he can because that's what needs to be done to make a meaningful heel turn in the future.

Like many others, I make the comparison to Hulk Hogan and his mid-90s heel turn. THAT is the reaction Cena needs to make a heel turn REALLY matter and, to do this, they must continue to cater to the women and children that love him. It might take a few more years though; There needs to be that passage of time to instil the notion that Cena is THE good guy of good guys. His fans need to age a little bit and grow disillusioned in him as he gets stale to them. They will immediately feel that betrayal even through their boredom with him, much like with Hogan.

As for the adult men that hate him as a babyface, we'll still hate him as a heel for just being a whiny bitch and McMahon can use that to eventually quell our resistance to him. It'll be a unanimous response of booing and "Cena Sucks" chants and once he goes to turn face again, we'll all be expected to like him by that point.

 

[nxtgeneration]

one thing i dont understand, is that why people think that a heel turn would work. They say that is the only way to win ovewr the older audience, however if he does turn heel, he will get booed by the younger children/women, and cheered by the men, pretty much having the same reaction as he had before, except the men wouldnt buy the merchandise, the children are the big sell point. so turn heel = same reaction - lose money, doesnt make sense to me

 

[robinkom]

one thing i dont understand, is that why people think that a heel turn would work. They say that is the only way to win ovewr the older audience, however if he does turn heel, he will get booed by the younger children/women, and cheered by the men, pretty much having the same reaction as he had before, except the men wouldnt buy the merchandise, the children are the big sell point. so turn heel = same reaction - lose money, doesnt make sense to me

Honestly, I don't think a heel turn would work for the reasons everyone wants it to work. Cena doesn't NEED to turn heel but, as I outlined in my post above, if they did it, it's something that would need to be handled with care. There's a great opportunity in the idea of a heel turn but that's not to say there are not other ways to expand and evolve his character.

You are quite right about who really buys the merchandise and they've no reason to upset his fans... yet. I think a Cena heel turn should only be a central point from where many other drastic changes to the product would need to occur; something to mark a new attitude (no pun intended) for where they would hypothetically be going. It's what happened with Hogan and the Outsiders after all; soon all you saw every week was the NWO running roughshod over the company. I'm not saying he needs his own heel stable to terrorize the WWE, but characters in other storylines and roles on the show could be making similar shifts in direction that would affect the overall presentation.

Again though, a heel turn for Cena is not mandatory, it's just one possible avenue they could tread in the future.

 

[bigbootydaddyV]

John Cena doens't need to go Heel to win over the male audience and to be honest John Cena could win over the male audience any time he wants. I know he had me ready to boo the rock that night in Fresno and THAT john cena would have the male audience behind him any day of the week, heel or face. That flow was hilarious, full of vitriol, and all Cena needs to do to not be looked at as such a tool by the male audience. He was still a face when he delivered that and even throughout the end of his hip hop persona he was a face. In fact, he was SUCH a face that they turned him heel. Cena just needs to be less super cena and more FU cena and the fans will go back to him, maybe not all, but it wouldnt be as polarizing as it is.

 

[MDR2k10]

Im 19 and a huge Cena fan lol. that being said i think he can be a face and still win over fans with that "rutheless aggression" he had back in his early days. wat he did to swagger on monday was a little glimpse of it. he just needs to be a face that wont shy away from insults or ppl calling him out of being stale. i think if he isnt the happy go luck cena and one thats bad ass it would be hard to seriously hate cena

 

[SmarkySmark84]

There is ALWAYS a way to make a face turn heel, and still be wildly popular and lucrative. Honestly I think a re-tooled Hollywood gimmick would make sense with Cena if done properly. After he gets booed to oblivion at WrestleMania (which he will be) it could give Cena a reason to question why The Rock is so much more beloved than he is despite not being around anymore. The difference? Hollywood. Watching Cena become obsessed with seizing the same kind of adoration and universal respect The Rock has and "selling out" would be entertaining as hell. Don't call him "Hollywood" John Cena though, that's too much like Hogan. Give him six months off to heal (he very seriously needs this anyway) and film a movie or two while he's gone. He comes back "changed by the Big Screen" and becomes John "The King of Cinema" Cena, or something similar.

Would it make me like him more, though? Nope.

 

[Khalifa]

No it will not win over the male audience because simply they just wish they could be in his shoes. Kind of like teenage boys with Justin Bieber, they will always hate him. John Cena is good in the ring, kind of like the Sting of WWE and can put on some fucking awesome matches. So there definately is no reason to hate him. Just because he wins titles doesn't mean someone should hate him. Look at Edge, HHH and Hulk Hogan, they were all fan favourites even after they retired despite the amount of titles they one.

So no, the male audience will always hate on him.

 

[Suibon]

John Cena might win over those who hate only his current gimmick for whatever reason if he turns heel, but definitely not those who think his wrestling ability is below-average.

Never mind the impossibility of turning Cena heel - the fact of the matter is you can't please everyone (and here I doubt if they ever want pleasing), so it's best to spend one's energies on those who do think Cena appeals to them as well as those who make noise while hating him and/or everything he stands for.

If haters gonna hate, then let them.
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[Honkey_Kong]

Did anybody else notice the parallels between Return of The Jedi and this current Cena angle? What really made me think it was a total knockoff was when Cena was about to cave Swagger's head in with that steel step and Kane starts applauding him for "embracing the hate." Really made me think the next logical step is that Cena comes in and beats down Kane at the Rumble and when he's about to finish him, Paul Bearer comes out and tells him to finish off Kane and take his place.

 

[Paralyzer Z]

There is ALWAYS a way to make a face turn heel, and still be wildly popular and lucrative.

I agree with you on that, it just depends on how they do it.

Honestly I think a re-tooled Hollywood gimmick would make sense with Cena if done properly. After he gets booed to oblivion at WrestleMania (which he will be) it could give Cena a reason to question why The Rock is so much more beloved than he is despite not being around anymore.

Storyline wise why would Cena get mad? He has time and time again stated that they fans can feel however they want about him. He said last summer that he expects to walk to be booed at Wrestlemania.

The difference? Hollywood. Watching Cena become obsessed with seizing the same kind of adoration and universal respect The Rock has and "selling out" would be entertaining as hell.

Whether it's entertaining or not is up to you, but it still doesn't make sense. Cena has tons of supporters out there, and his gimmick is based on "rising above the hate" he ignores the haters and loves his fan-base. He has no need to feel jealous of the Rock.

Don't call him "Hollywood" John Cena though, that's too much like Hogan.

Obviously.

Give him six months off to heal (he very seriously needs this anyway) and film a movie or two while he's gone. He comes back "changed by the Big Screen" and becomes John "The King of Cinema" Cena, or something similar

That's just silly. Then again Brodus Clay went from being as Super Hero destroyer on NXT to a Earnest "the cat" Miller parady.

Would it make me like him more, though? Nope.

Exactly, the haters will hate Cena no matter what. If he turns heel they will give him the opposite reaction to his character. Then again all that matters is that he gets a big reaction period.

 

[juggalotus]

Cena was the whole reason I ended up getting into wrestling about seven years ago...that being said, after about three years of him doing the same things over and over and over again...it just got boring.

 

[Khalifa]

Cena was the whole reason I ended up getting into wrestling about seven years ago...that being said, after about three years of him doing the same things over and over and over again...it just got boring.

But what exactly is he doing over and over again? His signature moves that every single superstar does? Or the fact that he actually follows his gimmick and never gives up in the ring? Your points are stupid if you think he does the same thing over and over again.

What do you exactly want him to do differently? He is the face of the company like Hogan was many years back and no one complained about him at the time. He puts on some really good matches and his best matches come when they matter most. He can sell any superstar over easy but still look like a legitimate threat for the title and has fantastic mic skills for him to do promos.

 

[Marv95]

What do you exactly want him to do differently? He is the face of the company like Hogan was many years back and no one complained about him at the time.

Besides turn heel, I dunno, maybe be more aggressive? Show a backbone? Stop pandering to the crowd and his best friend Ryder? Stop telling lame jokes? Take his opponents a bit more seriously? Walk to that ring like he doesn't give a damn like he did in the Thuganomics days? The Cena we saw last Monday, we need more of that.

Hogan helped revolutionize wrestling at the time and he wasn't just adored by women and children so it's kinda hard to compare the two. And even then he started getting booed in 93 and in WCW.

 

[Paralyzer Z]

Besides turn heel, I dunno, maybe be more aggressive? Show a backbone? Stop pandering to the crowd and his best friend Ryder? Stop telling lame jokes?

Isn't everything that you listed what got him over in the first place? He has his supportive fan base and they far outnumber the haters worldwide . He is the face of the company he does his job by pandering to the crowd, allying himself with Ryder, and telling "lame" jokes.

Take his opponents a bit more seriously? Walk to that ring like he doesn't give a damn like he did in the Thuganomics days? The Cena we saw last Monday, we need more of that.

Where is the fun in that? Aggression is for heels and pissed off faces, Cena doesn't need to be either of those (well only pissed of on seldom occasions) full time. Last Monday he was selling his emotion of anger at Kane and Swagger for what they did to his friend, he needed to be pissed off. You can't have that 24 because it doesn't fit his character that he has based so much of his success on.

Hogan helped revolutionize wrestling at the time and he wasn't just adored by women and children so it's kinda hard to compare the two. And even then he started getting booed in 93 and in WCW.

Precisely but still take into account that even he was one of wrestling's biggest stars at the time, similar to how Cena is now. He got big money, and large reactions similar to Cena. In the end that is really what counts when judging him.

 

[Marv95]

Isn't everything that you listed what got him over in the first place? He has his supportive fan base and they far outnumber the haters worldwide . He is the face of the company he does his job by pandering to the crowd, allying himself with Ryder, and telling "lame" jokes.

Yes it got him over and if the WWE doesn't their "top babyface" to be booed then they need to let him go back to the character that got him over and everyone got behind or turn him heel. And don't give me the crap that "Word Life won't work today". Spin it however you want, the face of the company doesn't get booed or despised every week, and if he does he'll soon undergo a character change. Hogan, Rock, HBK, all did it. He's not special.

Where is the fun in that? Aggression is for heels and pissed off faces, Cena doesn't need to be either of those (well only pissed of on seldom occasions) full time. Last Monday he was selling his emotion of anger at Kane and Swagger for what they did to his friend, he needed to be pissed off. You can't have that 24 because it doesn't fit his character that he has based so much of his success on.

Actually Swagger didn't do anything to piss him off to that extent, he just beat Ryder in the middle of the ring and won the title. He didn't do a post match beatdown or beat Cena's dad like Edge did. Nearly ending Swagger's career was unwarranted. Did it show a crack in the armor? Who knows. I do know Cena has incentive to be more pissed off and aggressive on his road to Wrestlemania with a showdown with the Rock. Kane's just "aiding" him to unleash it.

 

[Arsenal]

But what exactly is he doing over and over again? His signature moves that every single superstar does? Or the fact that he actually follows his gimmick and never gives up in the ring? Your points are stupid if you think he does the same thing over and over again.

What do you exactly want him to do differently? He is the face of the company like Hogan was many years back and no one complained about him at the time. He puts on some really good matches and his best matches come when they matter most. He can sell any superstar over easy but still look like a legitimate threat for the title and has fantastic mic skills for him to do promos.

John Cena is a cheap knock-off of Hulk Hogan. Hogan did a similar shtick, but he did it WAY better, plus he wasn't overexposed getting shoved down our throat every single week for years and years. His tv appearances and matches were very rare, which helped him stay mega-over for years. Plus, his face persona is what got him over in the 1st place, unlike Cena who got over with his "Thuganomics" gimmick, then switched to this goody two-shoes marine when the WWE wanted to try to make him into a modern-day Hogan. If John Cena was this bland face persona from the start, he never would have become this big, because his charisma and personality can't compare to Hogan's.

 

[vincent_kennedy_mcmahon]

His tv appearances and matches were very rare, which helped him stay mega-over for years.

He was everywhere much more present than Cena. Espacially in non wrestling capacities. And rare matches ... I'm not sure about that since I was just a little kid in his height during the 80's, but I would be surprised if he hadn't been in every show that he was available for. Maybe not everytime in a match but in some shape of form...

 

[Khalifa]

Besides turn heel, I dunno, maybe be more aggressive? Show a backbone?.

Have you not seen any of his feuds ever? Cena and JBL? Cena and Edge? Cena and Nexus? Cena and wanting the title after 10 long months at Extreme Rules last year? He only needs to be aggressive if thats what the feud involves. Why should be be aggressive when he has to face guys like Khali and Kane when they are the monster heels! The ones that should be more aggressive and what not. If Cena was more aggressive in these types of feuds then he would take away everything the monster heels and other heels have.

Stop pandering to the crowd and his best friend Ryder? Stop telling lame jokes?

HE IS A FACE! For him to not give the fans what they want would make him a heel. I don't know if you watch wrestling or whatever but it's usually good if the face gives the fans what they want and the heels do the opposite. It wouldn't make sense for Cena (THE FACE OF THE COMPANY) to not give them what they want.

Telling lame jokes as well is one of the most stupidiest arguements I have ever seen. Like every single person in the WWE roster don't same lame shit on the mic is what you are saying. Why don't you go back and look at some promo's from even the attitude era and see how lame some of their words were. Also if you didn't notice the jokes Cena tells still gets a buzz.

Take his opponents a bit more seriously? Walk to that ring like he doesn't give a damn like he did in the Thuganomics days? The Cena we saw last Monday, we need more of that.

Again another Cena person that wants to see a heel turn. Yet I still don't understand why? The points I provided before suggest he should stay face. I will say them again if you really want me to.

Also "take his opponents more seriously"? Really, man? Jesus christ if Cena isn't one of the most serious wrestlers when it comes to wrestling other matches I don't know who is.

Hogan helped revolutionize wrestling at the time and he wasn't just adored by women and children so it's kinda hard to compare the two. And even then he started getting booed in 93 and in WCW.

In WCW he was heel and in 93 he was winning every single match. It is understandable that he was getting booed. Cena wins more matches than he loses but not by much. It wouldn't make sense for him to lose more matches than he wins. As for Hogan it jsut got boring because he would literally lose 1 match after winning 20. Not the same for Cena.

John Cena is a cheap knock-off of Hulk Hogan. Hogan did a similar shtick, but he did it WAY better, plus he wasn't overexposed getting shoved down our throat every single week for years and years. His tv appearances and matches were very rare, which helped him stay mega-over for years. Plus, his face persona is what got him over in the 1st place, unlike Cena who got over with his "Thuganomics" gimmick, then switched to this goody two-shoes marine when the WWE wanted to try to make him into a modern-day Hogan. If John Cena was this bland face persona from the start, he never would have become this big, because his charisma and personality can't compare to Hogan's.

1) Hogan wrestled in the 80's and 90's where wrestling on tv was rare and you wouldn't see anything apart from the PPV's for majority of the time.

2) If Hogan wasn't shoved down our throats how is Cena? Hogan was the face of every single wrestling thing in America. He also held the title for 4 years! 4 years Hulk Hogan had the title for. How is that not being shoved down our throats. He headlined or feautered in the main event of every single mania, something John Cena does not.

3) So you are basically having a go at Cena because of his previous gimmick got him so over now? Unfair?

 

[George Steele's Barber]

I've really enjoyed Cena's current storyline and his descension from perfect boy scout to damaged teenager. I am not looking to discuss in this thread the climax of this story or aftermath, I am only looking to discuss what should happen at the Rumble.

Cena vs. Kane

Basically I am not ready for a payoff at this point and I don't want this match to have a definitive winner. But more than that I definitely do not want to see get any level of revenge for Kane's actions via this match. I don't care if we get a double countout or Kane gets DQ'd for hitting Cena across the ribs with a lead pipe, i am enjoying this story enough that I don't want it to end.

Problem - is it fair to promote this match and not give it the proper time and payoff?

Justification - I think part of the appeal of the Rumble is that it gives the WWE the ability to have some throw away matches. Between the two title matches and the Rumble itself we are going to get plenty of quality and entertaining wrestling.

Aftermath - Cena leaves the match clearly frustrated and angry about missing out on his chance to get his revenge on Kane.

Cena Confronts Johnny Ace

Prior to or during the Rumble Cena should confront Johnny Ace in his office demanding to get his hands on Kane. Johnny mentions that Kane is in the Rumble but Cena is not (since he already has a match booked for WM) therefore Cena will have to wait to get his hands on Kane. Cena demands to be put in the Rumble. Ace tells Cena that the match is booked and there are no open spots available. Cena sees Otunga warming up for the Rumble in the background and destroys Otunga. Cena announces that there is now one spot open and wants to know what number Otunga had - Ace tells him he had #27.

Aftermath - Cena walks off angry but somewhat satisfied.

#27

The announce team spends much of the Rumble rehashing Cena's story and the significance of the #27 and the success that it brings.

Purpose - This is just a red herring to get people to start thinking that Cena is likely to win the Rumble.

Cena Enters the Rumble

Cena enters the Rumble at 27 and flies in to the ring with a look of anger with his sights set on Kane. When he gets to the ring he is met by a few heels to brawl through. While he is battling the heels, Kane abandons the Rumble and makes his way up the ramp smiling as he gets to the top as he stares at a frustrated Cena.

Cena's Rumble

While staring at Kane walking out of the arena Cena is shockingly eliminated by Mick Foley.

Cena's Reaction

Cena loses it. He goes in the ring and beats down Foley, ultimately eliminating Foley with an AA out of the ring and on to the floor.

Purpose - I think this adds fuel to Cena's fire without crossing the line of full heel turn. It shows Cena's hate winning out but in a semi-competitive environment that can be somewhat justified. It spoils good old Mick's dream of headlining another WM. It also adds another layer to the Rock-Cena feud since Foley and Rock have so much supposed history. It could lead to the return of the three faces of Foley. It could start to make Cena and the fans start to guess if it is possible that this is the Attitude Era guys having some kind of conspiracy against Cena.

Aftermath

Cena calms down slightly, even spends half a second to check on Foley after his big bump but ultimately runs to the back to try and chase down Kane. He finds nothing and breaks down.

Focus shifts back to the Rumble.

My discussion questions are as follows:

1) What direction should Cena's descent in to hate story take at the Rumble:
- stall (save the story for free TV)
- regress (keep the story going but lighten up on Cena's hate)
- end (this story has gone on long enough, let Cena get the payoff at the Rumble and solely move on to Cena vs. The Rock)
- progress (have Cena's madness and frustration continue and grow)
- climax (full on definitive heel turn at the Rumble)

2) What do you think of my idea? What tweaks would you add? Do you have another idea for the Rumble that you think could work?

3) Can the descent in to hate story mesh with WM Rock-Cena story or do they need to be exclusive of one another?

Thanks,
George Steele's Barber (Vote Coco!)

 

[metalbass]

They have to progress it towards Wrestlemania in part to hype up the story more as it has gone stale from being booked a year in advance and also to give John Cena a facelift because he's been stale for some time now. I don't think he'll turn full heel any time soon (contrary to what I thought a few months ago) but he'll show more fire and anger in his character which may help make him watchable again.

2. I wouldn't have anything like that in the Royal Rumble match (especially late in the match as you suggested). I can see Kane and Cena in the match around the middle teens and would just rather it go like this:

Kane is in (lets say 14). He dominates a few lower-mid carders and maybe even gets 6 or 7 eliminations. The next entrant should be Cena who lost the match earlier in the night. He should be focussed and glaring a hole through Kane, run to the ring, beat the holy hell of of Kane, throw him over the top rope, jump over the top to the outside and continue beating on Kane, and eventually AA him off the stage. This could set up the feud longer for Elimination Chamber which they both will almost certainly be a part of.

3. It will definitely mesh in to the Rock/Cena match and should be an intense battle as of it. Maybe Cena could even bring a box of Fruity Pebbles in the ring and throw them at the Rock (lol!). Since this seems to be an evolution in Cena's character he could carry it for a long time.