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**MERGED** John Cena Thread - Heel Turn, Matches, Etc. (Keep it in here!!)

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If ever there was a chance it was tonight. Hell, if ever there was a chance to do ANYTHING, it was tonight.

But instead we see Miz and Truth beat by AN ELBOW THAT HASN'T BEEN USED FOR SIX YEARS. AND THEN CENA MADE TO LOOK A CHUMP. Why?

Seriously, it makes me so dissatisfied to watch what could be the greatest year of booking go down the toilet. Cena joins Miz and Truth to beat Rock at his time of need and declares instead of Rise Above Hate, I Am The Hate. There you go, a slogan I made up in five seconds that you can shove on t-shirts and sell, with a gimmick that plays on him being Super-Cena and that being why the crowd hates him.

Ok, so instead of turning him heel you could have at least made me interested in seeing who would win in a fight at WM28 between two future HOF guys. For this, you could use the animosity to give Truth and Miz the win, even a cheap win - that pushes them forward instead of continuing to stagnate their growth. And then have a brawl to end the show. Hell you could still have the 'crowd reaction display' thing they did. Just have the balls to pull one of the guys off mid display instead of just looking there, limp.

At least have Cena say 'this is my time'. Instead he wants Rock to get the plaudits. The spotlight. Why should that make me care about Cena? Or WWE in 2011? I won't see The Rock wrestle for another 5 months and then never again - so should I pay attention to the top guy who will be there next show, next PPV? Nah, he thinks the retired guy is all that is worth seeing.

People don't want Cena to turn heel because they are contrarion, 'to be saying the opposite just because it is cool'. It is because he is getting stale. Someone said to me the other day, to paraphrase, 'If people have stopped caring about Cena, then why do WWE still sell as many tickets and get views etc.' - well because they now want to see Ryder, Punk etc. You can have bad heat at the same time as good heat. WCW in 98 had the future generation of guys in their cruiserweights and midcard and people were getting bored of seeing Hogan, Flair, Piper, Savage and co. It was their most successful year in history. Did they see that as a time to develop what came next or go out of business? WM28 will be huge no matter what but then? Same old Super Cena? No more Rock? Make a mistake and fans might forgive you. Get stale and fans will leave one by one, knowing they aren't being entertained, listened to, never will be and that it isn't worth the effort.

If Cena were getting stale, people wouldn't buy his merch, they wouldn't make noise, and his quarter hour ratings (that WWE can analyze better than you and get better information than you) would be low. You are wrong.

Second, "why should I care about Cena?" Because he's a good guy. Rock is a dick. Rock's character is a prick. He's a shit actor (nominated for the goddamned RAZZIE of worst actor) who comes back and says "I love the fans"....via satellite, then acts like a prick at Survivor Series. If you can't see that, then you are blind.

You guys ALWAYS clamour for "realistic characters" well what if this IS John Cena? What if that IS the Rock? It's pretty likely that there are strong similarities. Turning Cena heel would be unnatural and unrealistic.

There is literally not a single, sound, logic driven answer to turn Cena heel. It's always opinion based.

Whether or not you personally think Cena is stale is irrelevant. The facts I stated above are indeed, FACTS. People don't watch what they hate, they don't make a TON of noise for something they think is stale, and they sure as fuck don't dedicate hours of the day to it on the internet. Unless they are dumbasses, in which case....why listen to them?
 
I came away from the main event worried about what they are doing with Cena's character. I mean they've basically made him look a chump and a second rate babyface with this entire Rock feud. They absolutely cannot have Rock go over clean at Wrestlemania, it would destory Cena's character completely. You also cannot turn the Rock heel because no-one will boo him against Cena anyway, so I understand the frustration from some with either not having Cena turn last night or having him go over the Rock to end the show (for the live fans they could always have had the Rock come back and destroy him after all)

That said I think we saw the first seeds of an eventual Cena turn at the end of the show. Kayfabe wise the fact that this guy has given us his all for the past 6 years as the top babyface in the company and still gets that type of treatment must stick in his throat, in reality I imagine it does too. That the Rock sent him running from the ring whilst the fans jeered him could be the straw that break's Cena's back, the thought of the type of heel promo he could cut on the fans would be enough to sell any PPV from now until WM. Hell I'd even think about the suggestion from another forummer in this thread about having him turn at Wrestlemania.

Imagine Cena cheating the Rock on the grandest stage of them all and then cutting a Hoganesque BatB promo? That could kick start a whole new era
 
If Cena were getting stale, people wouldn't buy his merch, they wouldn't make noise, and his quarter hour ratings (that WWE can analyze better than you and get better information than you) would be low. You are wrong.
Merchandise has dropped 10%, and his quarter hour ratings are low. They've been steadily dropping for the last 4 weeks now.

Second, "why should I care about Cena?" Because he's a good guy. Rock is a dick. Rock's character is a prick. He's a shit actor (nominated for the goddamned RAZZIE of worst actor) who comes back and says "I love the fans"....via satellite, then acts like a prick at Survivor Series. If you can't see that, then you are blind.
Yet Rock is still getting worshiped like some type of God in arenas he's been in. Got a huge ovation after his match despite being a dick. Why is that?

You guys ALWAYS clamour for "realistic characters" well what if this IS John Cena? What if that IS the Rock? It's pretty likely that there are strong similarities. Turning Cena heel would be unnatural and unrealistic. There is literally not a single, sound, logic driven answer to turn Cena heel. It's always opinion based.
So turning a guy who has been literally half-booed out of nearly every building since 2006--including his hometown-- with his same goofy, happy-go-lucky character is unrealistic? More like logical. And you want a logical reason to turn him heel? How about the fact that when he turns he'll be finally be brought back down to everyone's level(or close to it). How about the fact this would open up a spot for a new top babyface that the boys would want to compete for. How about the fact he won't be booked as SuperCena and would be forced to put people over. How about the fact that the turn would get a huge buzz around the wrestling world which could bring back fans who have been alienated back into the product and if done right could help increase attendance and buyrates at a time where both are absolutely stagnant. Anyone who thinks WWE can go into a new and improved era with Cena in his current state is absolutely delusional.
 
Merchandise has dropped 10%, and his quarter hour ratings are low. They've been steadily dropping for the last 4 weeks now.

Yet Rock is still getting worshiped like some type of God in arenas he's been in. Got a huge ovation after his match despite being a dick. Why is that?

So turning a guy who has been literally half-booed out of nearly every building since 2006--including his hometown-- with his same goofy, happy-go-lucky character is unrealistic? More like logical. And you want a logical reason to turn him heel? How about the fact that when he turns he'll be finally be brought back down to everyone's level(or close to it). How about the fact this would open up a spot for a new top babyface that the boys would want to compete for. How about the fact he won't be booked as SuperCena and would be forced to put people over. How about the fact that the turn would get a huge buzz around the wrestling world which could bring back fans who have been alienated back into the product and if done right could help increase attendance and buyrates at a time where both are absolutely stagnant. Anyone who thinks WWE can go into a new and improved era with Cena in his current state is absolutely delusional.
These facts are because of John Cena himself or because other people are finally picking up the pace and selling merch (Ryder and Punk). Also, show me links to the quarter hour ratings and Cena's personal merchandise sales numbers over the last 2 years along with the release dates of his new items and I'll tell you if it's because he's stale or if it's because of outside factors.

So wait, you REALLY think the reason Rock is over is because he acts like a dick and not because....iunno, he's a returning legend?

"open up a spot for a new top babyface" this is dumb logic. Someone else can take over regardless of Cena's face/heel alignment. WWE doesn't go "okay, Cena has this spot but so and so it outselling him...uh....turn him heel" they go "fuck yea 2 guys selling a lot".

I don't give a shit that Cena is half booed, fact is, they smile when they boo and 100% of the audience is making noise.

"If done right" well there's an IWC term I've never heard before. Explain "if done right" because I'd like to know of an idea you wouldn't shit on.

"Forced to put people over" you mean like how he gets a TON of guys over as it is? I mean, sure CM Punk would have gotten as over if his program were against Orton....o wait, that's not true is it?

"Won't be booked as Super Cena" you mean to say "wouldn't be booked the exact same as every other face of the company has been booked"?

"fact that it would create a buzz and bring back alienated fans" would it? Is that a fact? Or is that some bullshit you just made up? Coz it COULD also alienate a lot of the fans he has now and since the alienated fans aren't ever pleased by anything, would be a bad decision in the long run. That could happen too. Neither is "fact".

"new and improved era". Cena gets loud reactions, sells a lot of merch, and anyone he's against is instantly more over. That's what I know.

If you turn Cena heel there is nothing unique about him and he's just like every other character out there. Cena as the "rise above hate" "Hustle, loyalty, respect" guy is iconic and his reactions are unique. It's not his fault he doesn't usually have good foils to counter-balance what he has going. Luckily Rock and Punk are perfect foils.
 
I was thinking about the whole turning Cena heel thing and surely it doesn't make any sense to do it in front of a crowd like the one in The Garden last night. That crowd would have popped for Cena turning heel and that's not really what you want when the face of the company decides to turn.

I realise pro Cena crowds are getting rarer and rarer but if they do decide to turn Cena heel they need to do it in a place where Cena isn't getting booed out of the arena.
 
Cena always said that he loves how honest the fans are to him. But I believe those boos are really affecting him deep down. I mean, he for the longest time is cheered by everybody, and how fans idolized him and now the wwe universe was cut in half cheering for him and booing for him. It even got worse when The Rock came in the picture. When I look at Cena now, he seems to be pissed as hell and wants to beat the crap out of everyone out. I think it is much better if they turn him heel to be 'true' to himself.
 
Interested to see where Cena goes now. I thought he might take on Awesome Truth at TLC, but now it looks like they are breaking up. So what's there for Cena to do besides state each week he'll be facing the Rock at Wrestlemania?
 
I DVR RAW every week so I can FF through the commercials.
Based on the end of SS last night I basically FF through most of RAW (except for Punk, because lets face it, he's gold) just to get to the cena promo. To say that I was utterly disappointed would be a colossal understatement. I know Cena fans will probably be like whine whine piss and moan...but seriously, even for the Cena fan, how could you not want your boy to come out PISSED off at what happened? I don't understand. I was looking for a little fire...something directed at the Rock. But he pretty much just praised the Rock for not having lost it, and "ended up on the business end of a Rock Bottom". Its gonna make WM everything its supposed to be.
Then Awesome Truth come out and say everything most of us were thinking. But instead of addressing what was said, he basically sets up a program to break them up and pit them against each other.
What the heck happened tonight? No explanation of what was said (he wanted to keep that between them) It was a perfect set up for a heel turn and maybe they didnt' want to do it tonight and maybe it is just a fairy tale but I couldn't help watching with the hope that it would happen tonight.
It was just another missed opportunity.
You know, I knowing that they probably would never turn him, was even just waiting to at least get some kind of anger or "i'm sick of the Rock, blah blah blah..." Something. Anything!
It just didn't happen. Instead he puts into motion the break up of Awesome Truth. Real talk, I didn't care about them anyway, as they were pretty much getting wasted weekly. But as Cena said, nobody cares about them...SO WHY END THE SHOW WITH THEM???
Why not turn Cena heel and end the show that way...
Why not have Cena go CRAZY beating up MIZ and TRUTH to show how affected he actually could have been about what happened the night before....
OR Why not have him beat them up because he's mad that they told the truth about what happened and he's realizing it and is upset....I mean if you don't turn him, at least let him start showing that he's bothered (and i'm assuming here) about how the fans play him every week...
I dont know....man I'm just waiting for something to spark off. It was a great chance to further the story from Cena's perspective and nothing happened. It to me was a waste of time and wasted opportunity.
Everyone can disagree if they'd like...but i'm just saying...there were so many ways this could have played out and it seemed they again, took the safe route.
 
I haven't posted on this topic in a pretty good while as I've pretty much been trying to just ignore Cena. I've only been watching Raw for Punk and to see what Zack Ryder gets to do each week. I enjoy Ziggler somewhat but other than these guys, watching the show is like watching paint dry. Everything cL said about Cena is , as far as I'm concerned, fact. It's a fact sort of like knowing the existence of gravity is fact. You can't see gravity, but you know it's there. Cena has been making zero sense lately. The things he says are stupid and lame, even more than usual.

Cena is the epitome of phoniness, in my opinion, and he's being exposed more and more with each passing week. Cena turning heel at Survivor Series made perfect sense, but it didn't happen. Now I'm not talking about Cena turning heel so people like me can cheer him. I'm talking about telling the audience that he's sick of all the shit he gets from them and tells them all to kiss his ass. Yes, I'm talking about the ENTIRE audience. Christian didn't get to be selective about which fans he alienated during his heel turn, so Cena shouldn't either.

He just needs to get pissed or something. It makes ZERO sense. I'll never like Cena no matter what he does, but his character is stale horseshit right now. Hell, the CeNation isn't even showing up that much at arenas anymore, based on crowd reactions. His own fans seem to be tired of him. Heck, alot of the kids are now on CM Punk's bandwagon. I've seen a lot of kids lately wearing Punk shirts in the crowds. I even saw a mother and son wearing Punk shirts a while back.

I know certain people will disagree, but Cena is not that talented. Cena is a guy with big muscles, and who is decent looking, so Vince decided to try and market him as Hulk Hogan 2.0 and pushed him to the moon. Yes Cena got over pretty good doing the Thuganomics crap, but at the time he was edgy. Even then though, he was stuck in a crappy gimmick. He never was just "John Cena." He was a guy with a rapping gimmick wearing jean shorts who just happened to get to use his real name.

Any good looking muscular guy who stayed out of trouble could've been pushed like Cena and been in the same place Cena's at now. The reason Cena gets the hate he does is due to his lack of technical wrestling skill and his lame, corny, Barney the Dinosaur esque persona. I personally HIGHLY doubt Cena is being himself, but if he is, he may just be the biggest douche on the planet. Well, it would be pretty close between Cena and Cole.
 
I'm really disappointed in John Cena as of right now, last night on Raw I really thought he was gonna come out & hit us w/a great promo, but instead w/get the same oh trash. He got out performed, out cheered, & Rock just plan disrespected & embarrassed him at the ppv, but what does he do or say about it, NOTHING!!!!! This is the very reason why I'm not a fan of John Cena the character anymore, he takes way to much shit off of ppl for me to take him serious. No other superstar would have let Rock upstage them like the way Cena has, if that was Stonecold, HHH, Y2J, hell even The Hurricane wouldn't have just lay down for The Rock to walk on. All hell would have broke loose if any other superstar would have tagged w/Rock at the view.

I'm tired of him acting as if everything is hunky dory, it's not damn it, no man should be okay w/getting there ass Rock Bottomed & disrespected. If he keeps up w/this attitude it's gonna be a hard sell that he can defeat The Great One at Wrestlemania. Personally I hope Rock lays the smackdown on him cause puss cakes shouldn't get victories over legends, & John is acting like a bona fide puss cake.
 
Yeah, Cena needs to get more aggressive for this feud to be as good as it can be in the coming months. But I think there's a fine line between being more aggressive and going through a complete character change, the latter of which seeming to be what most people want. All he has to do is cut a promo at some point saying that he's better than The Rock and that he knows he can beat him. That's it. It should have happened last night, but they decided they wanted to focus on the Awesome Truth breakup for some reason.
 
Originally Posted by The Champ Yeah, Cena needs to get more aggressive for this feud to be as good as it can be in the coming months.

Yeah that's what I'm saying he needs to stop w/the puss cake attitude it makes this feud seem so one sided. The Rock is all intense & ready to attack & lay the smackdown at any moment & John is just acting like he is star struck or something.

But I think there's a fine line between being more aggressive and going through a complete character change, the latter of which seeming to be what most people want.

See I personally don't want that, Cena can stay a face he just needs to stop acting like he is the top superstar of a pbs kid's show. He is the face of the wwe, & rightfully so, there's no reason for him to be okay w/just letting The Rock walk all over him.

All he has to do is cut a promo at some point saying that he's better than The Rock and that he knows he can beat him. That's it. It should have happened last night, but they decided they wanted to focus on the Awesome Truth breakup for some reason.

Yeah that's what I wanted him to do, but was disappointed once again by his easy going attitude. Any other wrestler would have came out pissed & talking like they wasn't waiting on Mania. It would have been cool if he came out & said he was gonna pay Rock a visit in Hollywood or something.
 
Just wanted to point out that the same was done with Hulk Hogan for even longer.

It is stupid to give Cena credit for being electrifying? Before you jump down my throat and rip it out, it is not to the extent as The Rock is. Some guys do not even get a reaction at all like Mason Ryan. Why is it a problem if Cena evokes a large reaction. I know that the Miz is heel and he gets cheered by a portion of the crows, does that means he sucks? No it is just that there is always going to be different ways people feel about you no matter what. CM Punk even got a few boos in early in his current run. The reason he is shoved down our throats is because while it is annoying to you it is a show of heroism to a majority of the WWE universe (albeit not as much as a majority as in previous years). Like I said before recognizing that he is jeered by a part of the crowd is part of his current character and gets him even bigger reactions from the "Cenation".

You said that WWE needs a variety of top stars? Here is the thing, you NEED one top selller! You need there to be a biggest guy so you always have a backup in the other guys. WWE should rely on someone who is willing to work hard in every aspect of professional wrestling like Cena does, I have no doubt that one day Punk will replace as the top face, though it will not be anytime soon. Cena is the central point of Raw because the kids look up to him as the biggest good guy, it would not have the same effect if 5 other guy were equally over at the same, the fans would not know which one they should cheer fir the most. One more thing, the product is too predictable? 2011 has been the most unpredictable year in WWE since about 2005. You had Punk, the Rock, Awesome Truth, COO/HHH/Laurinits/Nash, and even John Cena has shown some unpredictability in 2011.

He didn't get boo's for being electrifying he got and still gets boo'd because he has been stale and overused for too long that people genuinely got sick of him. This isn't my personal feelings but the feelings of the many that boo. You're still not ackowleding why the boo's started and saying he deserves credit for it is just wrong. If Mason Ryan was pushed as the top guy for that long he would get boo'd too but that would be by the whole audience because he is absolutely horrible. Cena has actually been decent this year but that's only when his feuding with CM Punk or Rock. Yeah this year has been unpredictable for a bit but that also finished and the excitement that was felt around Money In the Bank has now totally gone and it seems like the same old boring product again apart. They dropped the ball big time on the massive momentum that they had created and it just shows the completely incompetence of the people in charge.
 
The Miz? I was kind of hoping Miz & Truth would feud with Cena mixed in- maybe a 3-way at TLC, but now it's looking just like another Cena-Miz feud. Does this seem right to you?
 
It's kinda weird, isn't it? I can't remember the last time when Cena was without a clear direction to go.

He feuded with The Miz recently, so I don't know, really. I'd like to say Christian, but they aren't even on the same brand and have no backstory so far, so this would be just wishful thinking.
 
It's kinda weird, isn't it? I can't remember the last time when Cena was without a clear direction to go.

You're right. Maybe they'll have no choice but a heel turn.

It is very weird that they don't appear to have a good feud or direction for him although he's probably going to feud with Miz again, short term. Long term, we know he's feuding with Rock but there's too much time before that match happens.
 
re-ignite the feud with CM Punk or maybe give Dolph a big push. His match with CM Punk on Raw was freaking awesome. A few matches against Cena could give Dolph a helping hand as well as giving Cena some extra fans for some how shutting Vicky Guerrero up!
 
Yeah, Cena needs to get more aggressive for this feud to be as good as it can be in the coming months. But I think there's a fine line between being more aggressive and going through a complete character change, the latter of which seeming to be what most people want. All he has to do is cut a promo at some point saying that he's better than The Rock and that he knows he can beat him. That's it. It should have happened last night, but they decided they wanted to focus on the Awesome Truth breakup for some reason.

Yup. This is exactly what I mean. When WWE brings people who hate Cena and people who like Cena to a common agreement ABOUT Cena, then a problem has been created and a solution HAS to happen....:)

Seriously though, I totally agree with this point. I am a not clamoring for a Cena heel turn. Do I think it would freshen up his character a bit? Sure. But maybe he doesn't need the turn, and maybe he just really needs some ruthless aggression. And I'm not talking Del Rio last man standing match aggression. I'm talking a good mixture of Bret Hart Montreal Screw job, Stone Cold/McMahon, Triple H/Undertaker Mania, Abdullah the Butcher, Brian Pillman and some UFC Ultimate Fighter pissed at the world AGGRESSION. He needs to show that he got a sack and will not be pissed on by the Rock OR the fans. I mean he doesn't have to turn heel, but at some point he's going to have to demand some respect from EVERYBODY. Seriously, enough with this sesame street, rise above hate, I'm too good to get upset so i'll congratulate the man who made a fool of me garbage. I respect his character and morality but even Superman gets angry. He can afford to go nuts at least once.
This is worse than the program going into wrestlemania with Batista...can i beat him? i don't think i can beat him......blah blah blah...Ridiculous.
This is an Icon vs Icon match. Its supposed to be billed as one of the biggest matches of all time. Again I'm not a Cena supporter, but going into this match I really wanna see him elevate his game. It's only going to be as good as the build up. And right now, it is SORELY lacking.
 
I'm thinking it has to be Ziggler. With the Punk/Del Rio match set for next week, it's clear they want Punk in something new going into December's PPV. The Miz is the natural opponent for him with the Awesome Truth breakup. They have never feuded, and the mic work alone would be worth watching.

That leaves Cena essentially without an opponent. Enter Ziggler. It's clear with the match against Punk, the matches he's had with Orton, that they think he is the next big star, and he certainly puts on the matches to justify it. He's gone about as far as the US title can take him, and with Ryder as over as he is, now is the time to pull the trigger and give Ryder the belt and allow Dolph to move up. I'm convinced Ziggler wins the Rumble and headlines Mania with Punk, so a brief feud with Cena from now til the Rumble solidifes him as a main eventer, and gives Cena a filler feud to kill time til the real buildup with the Rock begins post Rumble.
 
Now that ADR is getting his rematch on Raw rather than TLC, I'm guessing they'll need a new #1 contender for the PPV, and with Truth suspended, I feel like that's gotta be Miz. I just don't see who else could feel that slot. So where does that leave Cena? Maybe a renewed feud with ADR?

They really just have to fill Cena's dance card for TLC, and then he can be in the Rumble, and one of 6 guys in the Elimination Chamber, so he wouldn't need a singles contender necessarily. It is definitely an uncertain time, though. We'll have to wait and see what's next...
 
This is why I believe Cena SHOULD turn heel. It would open the flood gates up to MANY possible feuds without the title.

Im gonna do some fantasy booking here...

~Have him start with...oh, lets say Kofi. Just a small short feud. We know Kofi can hold his own and they do have history. OR go against Ryder. It would help elevate Ryder more and bring more heat on Cena.

~From there put him against Sheamus. Same feud just the other way around. This one is a little longer, maybe just outside WM, enough time for Rock to start making his appearance again.

~In between feuding with Rock again, Cena can go back against Punk. Again, same feud different dynamic. This is where Rock makes his comeback and screws Cena leading into their WM match. Hell add someone else in there for Punk to setup a match for him.

After WM is all said and done, Cena can change gears again IF NEEDED. But he should be heel leading into his WM match.


We have seen that Punk can get the cheers, Ryder too. Ziggler is do for a face push as soon as he breaks away from Vickie. So there are 2...possibly 3 guys that can take the face reigns for awhile.
 
I think that's coz' the wwe wants to keep cena free for the feud with the rock...as in if he gets in a feud and it gets hot,they wouldn't want to kill a story right in the middle of it.well,at least that's the best i Can come up with:shrug:
 
Here is the thing, Cena COULD fued with The Rock mainly until WM, but ONLY if the rock would show up more often than once every 3 months. I think a 5 months feud would be nice to see.
But since we all know thats 0% likely to happen.
I think the anger we saw out of Cena last night was pretty good, just the way he went "Shut up!" raised my eyebrow cuz i wasnt expecting that. I think he could slowly build up his anger week by week by people mocking him and bugging him about being shown up by the rock, and with the fans chanting "boots to asses, lady parts, cena sucks, ect.." he could slowly flip the switch and turn heel possibily?
 
~Have him start with...oh, lets say Kofi. Just a small short feud. We know Kofi can hold his own and they do have history. OR go against Ryder. It would help elevate Ryder more and bring more heat on Cena.

~From there put him against Sheamus. Same feud just the other way around. This one is a little longer, maybe just outside WM, enough time for Rock to start making his appearance again.

~In between feuding with Rock again, Cena can go back against Punk. Again, same feud different dynamic. This is where Rock makes his comeback and screws Cena leading into their WM match. Hell add someone else in there for Punk to setup a match for him.

After WM is all said and done, Cena can change gears again IF NEEDED. But he should be heel leading into his WM match.


We have seen that Punk can get the cheers, Ryder too. Ziggler is do for a face push as soon as he breaks away from Vickie. So there are 2...possibly 3 guys that can take the face reigns for awhile.

Wait....i just read this first stanza in this and if you're a fantasy booker, i'm thinking if Cena was to turn heel, having him feud with Ryder would be brilliant in order to help push him to the moon until a little before the Rock match. I mean, Rock has already said he is a fan of Ryder. It would be awesome of Cena went heel and Ryder came out and confronted him about it and Cena attacked him. They have a series of matches where Cena beats the CRAP out of Ryder but Ryder keeps coming back, becoming a strong face and not just the woo woo guy. Closer to the elimination chamber they have a ppv match and Cena tries to end Ryders career and the Rock comes out and makes the save.
I think that could be INSANE....
I really think that would be crazy...
 
His next feud should be with Dolph Ziggler. I look at Ziggler and I see a very bright future. He's a pretty solid wrestler who could quite possibly be a great contender for the WWE Championship one day, perhaps very soon. All Dolph needs is a solid feud with a main eventer that could get him over enough to be considered a legitimate threat to a top title; John Cena could do just that. The Rock is busy doing whatever he does best and John Cena is left doing nothing. Awesome Truth seems to have ended, Punk is tied off with Del Rio, the only logical choice is Dolph Ziggler. Anyone remember their matches from earlier in the year where Ziggler/Cena put on one hell of a match on Raw then an even better one the next night on Smackdown? They have chemistry together. All of Dolph Ziggeler's problems could be fixed with John Cena as his opponent.
 

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