Conspiracy Storyline - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!

[MinistryofDeath89]

I would love to see a Cm Punk vs Kilq storyline in the coming few weeks. For those who don't know who the Kilq are it's ( HHH, Nash, X Pac, Scott Hall , HBK) But I thought the WWE would bring Scott hall back he's too messed up. But I think that would pretty EPIC and have on top of that the WWE superstars of Raw turn on Kilq and have Cm Punk as the Leader of Raw.

What do you think?

 

[mancpenguin]

Maybe this could be the first feud to fully embrace the use of Twitter between the superstars. Shame it wasn't HBK doing the run in and the sweet chin music on Punk would have been a much more shocking ending.

Of course I understand HBK will never wrestle again - though how many people are queuing up to see Nash wrestle again ?

 

[MattyB]

I would love to see a Cm Punk vs Kilq storyline in the coming few weeks. For those who don't know who the Kilq are it's ( HHH, Nash, X Pac, Scott Hall , HBK) But I thought the WWE would bring Scott hall back he's too messed up. But I think that would pretty EPIC and have on top of that the WWE superstars of Raw turn on Kilq and have Cm Punk as the Leader of Raw.

What do u think ????

It be nice but who would Punk have to back him up I could see if in the next few weeks HHH screws people over or Nash interferes in some peoples matches then this would be a great story plot but I dont think that they would settle their diffrences till after Night of Champions which sets up a semi long feud. Also I dont think HBK would come back to the Kliq and maybe come back to team up with punk which would be a pretty good set up.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Let's not forget that the Vengeance PPV is in San Antonio this year. There's no way WWE is going to have a PPV in San Antonio without HBK somehow making an appearance. This is the perfect storyline to tie him into.

If Trips and Nash are in cahoots and they're going heel (with Punk going further towards being a tweener or even face), then as some have suggested, I could see HBK siding with CM Punk.

 

[BloodworkKP]

Does anybody besides me find it funny that not too long ago on this very wrestlezone site that they reported that Kevin Nash told CM Punk on twitter that he would have his back then this happens, anyway the "stick the winner" while it doesn't imply that it was a "hit" on Punk, I'm under the impression based on some comments on monday from "Johnny Ace" it wouldn't suprise me considering he has access to Hunter's phone plus who's to really say that hunter didn't have Johnny send the text for plausible denyablity

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I think that Nash's text supposedly said "stick the winner" and not "stick the winner if it's Punk" means that it was just to make sure ADR had the belt. Not that it was ADR, but whoever wanted it didn't want the title to be on either Cena or Punk because of their whole story. They wanted it for "the interest of good business".

Like the guy above me, I think we'll find out that it was sent from HHH's phone, but that HHH didn't actually send it. I don't think it will be from anyone we've thought of so far because they're all too obvious. Although this could be a sort of "ITS ME AUSTIN" type of thing.

 

[OwenHart100%legend]

Well as we have seen on TV over the last month or so and as rumored on the WZ site, it seems apparent, that at some point down the line CM Punk will be squaring off against HHH in what has all the makings of a classic!

So I was wondering what peoples opinions are as regards how this is all going to play out? Will the match take place? If it does then when will it be? And if it does what will happen?

As it seems to be the case that no one at WWE has a clue what the plans are long term, I see nothing wrong with a bit of random speculating so here's what I think will take place.

I think we will see Punk v HHH but not @ SS as suggested, I think it will happen @ HIAC and this will be followed by a rematch @ Vengence @ which point we will see the return of the Deadman to set up a SS match between HHH and the Undertaker, maybe even involving Punk in a triple threat.

What does everyone else think?

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

I'm going to attempt to analyse this situation in its entirity using the clues that have been given thusfar:

- The Tickets:

Nash was permitted entry to the building by His friend and COO Triple H, Nash then proceeded to act alone in attacking the winner by which he premits was done in aid of his friend Triple H who sent him the message earlier on.

- The History

Nash and Triple H have a history, both were apart of the clique and both men were on apposing sides when the Monday Night wars were at full strength, Hunter leading DX and Kev leading the NWO, but the information given fails to establish who used who, did Hunter use Kev to aid his own aspirations of taking the title from Punk or did Kev use Hunters position in the company to get back in the ring?.

- The text message

If the message was sent via Hunters phone there are only two people who would have had acess to it, Stephanie Mcmahon or John Laurinitis, now think for a second John Laurinitis has constant acess to the COO being head of talent relations and has become a reaccuring character on WWE television, he is also a long term friend of Vince who was recently demotted from day to day operations by his son in law triple H due to the actions of CM Punk, if anyone has a score to settle it would be John.

but saying that the same excuse could be made by Stephanie, her father lost his position within the company, her husband has siezed control, there is also the added bonus of making Punk look stupid due to what he has said about the million dollar princess no person would let those remarks slide.

- Purpose

Whether or not a third pary was involved the purpose of this storyline is to elevate the Punk vs Triple H match for mainia so with all parties involved no one true heel will be portrayed with this angle it would mean that not one individual was involved if we look back at the fact Triple H counted a pinfall without acknowledging Cenas foot on the ropes down to the fact that Alberto Del Rio cashed in his MITB case after the attack would mean that all four could have colaberated to ensure that Punk was champion prior to Nash sticking it to him it would mean that this feud may have legs for the next couple of months prior to all parties being revealed in this scenario.

But until then i will be watching anxiously awaiting to find out what will happen next in this rather brilliant feud as it progresses through wwe tv

 

[Trill Co$by]

The person who sent the Text Message and the person who used to send emails to Micheal Cole... are the same person, and when we find out who sent them, we'll see who the GM is. And my money, is on Chris Jericho. If you'll hold up, I'll explain why.

1. Chris Jericho's free from Touring and he's not doing anything. If people seriously think that he'll publicly announce his return and spoil such a huge return, then you're kidding yourself. Jericho is a Wrestler's Wrestler. He still finds a way to work the kayfabe even in reality.

2. How did Jericho have access to the phone? Simple... he found it laying around somewhere and saw Nash's number. He then proceeded to text Nash telling him to stick the winner.

3. How does he fit in to this as GM? Again, it's simple. Since Triple H's involvement with the company, the Raw GM has been silenced and that gives the Raw GM motive to do so.

4. How does Jericho fit in as a competitor? Yet another simple answer. Jericho's never been able to beat Triple H or John Cena, and with CM Punk going around claiming to be the Best in the World, it gets him kind of ticked off. Plus, the match was being built for the "Undisputed WWE Championship"... who is the first Undisputed Champion in WWE history? If your answer isn't Jericho, then you're ******ed.

5. What makes me so sure it's Jericho? Honestly, I'm not so sure... but in all honesty, it's a likely candidate due to him needing some form of return sooner or later.

 

[Broski_of_the_week]

The person who sent the Text Message and the person who used to send emails to Micheal Cole... are the same person, and when we find out who sent them, we'll see who the GM is. And my money, is on Chris Jericho. If you'll hold up, I'll explain why.

1. Chris Jericho's free from Touring and he's not doing anything. If people seriously think that he'll publicly announce his return and spoil such a huge return, then you're kidding yourself. Jericho is a Wrestler's Wrestler. He still finds a way to work the kayfabe even in reality.

2. How did Jericho have access to the phone? Simple... he found it laying around somewhere and saw Nash's number. He then proceeded to text Nash telling him to stick the winner.

3. How does he fit in to this as GM? Again, it's simple. Since Triple H's involvement with the company, the Raw GM has been silenced and that gives the Raw GM motive to do so.

4. How does Jericho fit in as a competitor? Yet another simple answer. Jericho's never been able to beat Triple H or John Cena, and with CM Punk going around claiming to be the Best in the World, it gets him kind of ticked off. Plus, the match was being built for the "Undisputed WWE Championship"... who is the first Undisputed Champion in WWE history? If your answer isn't Jericho, then you're ******ed.

5. What makes me so sure it's Jericho? Honestly, I'm not so sure... but in all honesty, it's a likely candidate due to him needing some form of return sooner or later.

Sorry but I'd be willing to bet this isn't gonna happen. Jericho has no relevance or involvement in this storyline whatsoever and with them re-introducing both Nash and Stephanie at Summerslam and wanting to make Laurinitis a on-screen character, theres no way (and no space) to bring yet another character into this already heavily invested in storyline. Just how would Jericho fit in here considering that Punk no doubt will be squaring off against both HHH and Nash in upcoming PPV's. He cant just face all the old guys one after another for the next 6 months, and even if he were going to, surely it would be members of the Kliq, not someone who has no relation to them.

In fact Jericho left WCW for WWE because of people like Nash keeping the cruiserweights down so surely, given that this is the 'reality era', the last person he would text IF he were the Raw GM (which he isn't) would be a guy that wasted years of his career back at WCW?

No... definitely not Jericho. And tbh I'm getting slightly sick of hearing about his return every time there is a possibility of anyone returning. You know, there was a Japanese symbol after one of the matches on NXT last week, and Jericho wrestled for a while in Japan... this MUST mean he's returning to fight TYSON KIDD! you heard it here first folks!

 

[Jack-Hammer]

According to the latest buzz making its way around the net, the plan going forward will be for Kevin Nash to be a regular character on Raw for the forseeable future.

According to PWInsider.com, Nash will work a program with CM Punk that will ultimately culminate inside the ring with Nash being a big name opponent that puts CM Punk over. Nash has reportedly cancelled his independent bookings this weekend in order to undergo all the various medical exams to make sure that everything's ok and that it's safe for Nash to get physical inside the ring.

I'm not exactly all that wild about seeing Nash wrestle again, but I do believe that Punk will be able to carry him and bring out some solid stuff. If the idea really is for Punk to go over the legendary Attitude Era star and 6 time World Champion, then I'm all for it. I've often criticized TNA for its use of older stars because, in most instances, TNA has used the younger guys on the roster to put over and keep the older guys in the spotlight instead of the other way around. Nash still has star power and he can still deliver on the mic, so using his star power to actually put over a young guy that can be a major player in the WWE is something I can get behind.

 

[itssoeasy123]

I really don't want to see Nash wrestle again, atleast Punk will be able to carry Nash to a good match. Nash as an on screen character is'nt that bad, Nash in the ring I really don't want to see, the guy really can't go anymore.

 

[WZ ArabicKid]

wwe plan 2 make punk vs HHH
and now nash said that he got a taxt from hhh will HHH Said that he not taxt nash
so now we want to know who taxt nash and the option is
1- hhh
2- del rio
3- steph
4- vince

but what if was punk who did taxt nash
that goona be huge shock
i mean punk will let hhh & nash get angry and fight ( not in match ) after they fight nash gose and punk get his rematch aginst del rio in NOC
IN THAT match punk win with dq after HBK Interfere
the next night in raw HBK said What nash said that he got a taxt from hhh and hhh said that he did not taxt HBK so HHH & hbk get fight and HHH lose Hes 2nd frind
the next week punk says that he who taxt nash and hbk and HHH get angry and we have

PUNK VS HHH in Survivor Series‏
I hope u understand my xD

 

[CorporationRyan]

My theory is that Nash was texted by HHH...I think the Kliq is going to reunit..HHH wants to turn bad and why not bring in Nash,X pac or 6 Pac...lol HBK and I know this is a longggggggg.....SHOT but Scott Hall!! Then at Mania, Undertaker Vs HHH part 2 will be classic...cause this time Undertaker has to deal with the KLIQ and he will destroy them.

 

[TheAwesome_RedX]

I love this CM Punk/Nash confrontation two of the most controversial guys in wrestling, both are aces on the mike as we have seen before. I loved the end of Summerslam with Nash and the sneak attack Jackknife powerbomb. The only thing about this feud that I worry about is if they had a match how would CM Punk beat Nash?I doubt if cm punk has the inner cena power to pick up kevin nash for a gts and i dont think big kevin arms can be locked in an andaconda vice. I belive that Punk could beat Nash in a believable way but at a glance CM Punk, I love the guy but he looked immensely undersized.

What's a strategy that Punk could use to pin or submit Big Sexy Kevin Nash??

Or do you think this feud will not lead to a actual match??

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Roundhouse Kick.

CM Punk has developed his Roundhouse Kick as a manuever to be feared with. They played it up as a move which knocked out the Big Show, he used it to defeat Rey Mysterio, he used it to fend off Alberto Del Rio and he has began threatening to "Kick your teeth down your throat!" So the obvious one would be for him to hit Nash with the Roundhouse Kick. Nash is pretty tall though, so I'd imagine Punk hitting him with it while Nash is on his knees.

Other than that, Punk has dropped Kane before with the GTS. I'm also certain he planted Big Show with it also, Nash is big in size and height but he isn't the biggest man. And the Anaconda Vice would actually be more affective if Nash's arms are bigger, because the move involves using ones arm to choke them out, as long as Punk could lock it, it's another way to go about it.

And all reports point towards the match happening, so you can all but guarentee they'll meet.

 

[mykeymayhem]

@TheAwesome_RedX
Finger poke of doom, seriously that about all it would take to beat Nash, who wants to see his slow, old, half dead ass in a ring anyway.
There are other much more relevant people who can put punk over such as Jericho, SCSA, HHH, hell even the rock. Why dose it have to be Nash ohh why ohh why vince or should I say tripps if i'm going on the story line.
A paper bag would put Punk over more than Kevin Nash.
If you want to argue with my logic ask all the kiddys who turned to dady last monday when Nash came out and said Daddy who is that and where is John Cena.

 

[xBxJxPx]

In my personal opinion, I completely think it was Stephanie that sent the text to Nash. Why? There have been some backstage stuff going on between Stephanie and Punk/Cena. I know, that's all the evidence I got, but that's what I think.

Should we expect the answer this upcoming RAW?

By the way, first post. Hey, everyone.

 

[bEEjX]

If this has already been mentioned then my bad. But If Punk and HHH were ever to have a match then a cool way for it to end would be Punk hitting his old finisher, Pepsi Plunge (top rope pedigree). It could just be a one time deal, a lot of guys weren't able to take a regular Pedigree without bending their bodies or bringing their knees up to their chest to break the fall.

 

[#hamler]

Finger poke of doom, seriously that about all it would take to beat Nash,

That's just silly. Why would ther WWE take an angle that's been shitted on for the better part of the last two decades and repeat it. Besides, kayfabe wise, Nash is one of the toughest men in the business. It will take a lot to beat him.

who wants to see his slow, old, half dead ass in a ring anyway.

Me. Mostly because I'm a huge mark for Nash. I'm sure once Nash gets over with the current generation they'll want to see this too.

There are other much more relevant people who can put punk over such as Jericho,

Couldn't be anymore irrelevant right now.

SCSA,

That's just silly. Steve Austin vs. Punk needs to be saved for a huge event like Wrestlemania or Summerslam.

HHH,

Not right now. This will happen but what would one more name under Punk's belt hurt?

hell even the rock.

Shouldn't be in the storyline.

Why dose it have to be Nash ohh why ohh why vince or should I say tripps if i'm going on the story line.

Maybe because he's one of Triple H's best friends.

A paper bag would put Punk over more than Kevin Nash.

That's just stupid. Do you honestly believe a paper bag would put over Punk better then a former WCW/WWF Champion would? Seriously?

If you want to argue with my logic ask all the kiddys who turned to dady last monday when Nash came out and said Daddy who is that and where is John Cena.

Guess that's why Nash had gotten big reactions at both Money in the Bank and Royal Rumble. Yes, Nash needs to get over with the current generation but for fuck's sake, that can't be done in one night with a less than 15 minute promo.

 

[Nada]

What i think they will do is a heel Stephanie allied with Nash vs Punk, they can get some mileage out of that story.

Triple H will be neutral until ofc the moment that Punk is finally about to win against Nash or whoever and then turn, setting up a HHH vs Punk match.

They will drag the Cena, ADR feud, where ADR barely escapes defeat through cheating, then Miz is added and odds are stacked against Cena, which he ofcourse overcomes despite ADR and Miz forming an "alliance".

Both of these stories end just before the slow build to WM

 

[rickfoxoclock]

I could very well be jumping the gun here, considering we are only 25 minutes into Raw, but I can't remember a time when a WWE Champion was so disrespected as what we saw in tonight's opening segment. No matter what circumstances a performer has won the belt, he's always been given some time to speak his mind. Del Rio didn't get it last week and he didn't even get started this week.

I can understand the argument that Cena deserves a shot at the Title because of the refereeing error at Summerslam but if HHH and WWE are going to say it was a mistake and get over it, then logically his claiming of having a "rematch clause" would be moot right? Am I missing something there?

Punk does have a legitimate beef but it would seem to me that he has bigger fish to fry with the whole HHH/Corporate "Text" incident. It would seem that regaining the title wouldn't be first thing on his mind. What's the point of getting the title shot if you know that people in control are likely going to screw you out of winning it?

It seems to me that WWE has a perfect recipe going here to try and showcase some other superstars in Title matches. We've always seen WWE Champions face random opponents on Raw to just give them victories and credibility. It seems to me after last week's Raw, that's exactly what Del Rio needs. Cena called out his credibility last week and considering how much pull he has with the WWE Universe, you can bet that most people don't buy Del Rio as Champion. It seems like a perfect case to return to a tried and true formula that resulted in creating very credible main event talent, while giving mid-carders that chance at showcasing what they'd be capable of if moved up to the main event level.

I guess I'm just having trouble understanding the logic behind some of the decision making that going on here with the WWE Title picture situation. Am I overreacting or do I make any sense at all? Help me WZ Universe.

 

[Tattooed Jesus]

Del Rio is nothing but a 3rd wheel and after thought in this feud. The fans want to Cena vs Punk for the belt, and no one cares one way or the other about the Mexican JBL. He is going to go down as one of the forgotten Champions aka Jack Swagger. Del Rio didn't need to win the title right now the timing for him getting the title is horrible storyline wise even if it is good business wise (for the upcoming tour of Mexico, the only reason he is champion right now). Del Rio is great in the ring don't get me wrong but his character has already gotten old and stale to me and he got pushed to the title to soon. He has only been in WWE for a year and never held any other titles, he should have at least had a long IC title reign before jumping right up to the World and WWE titles.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Cena was champion/co-champion therefore he think he deserves a chance to get the belt back. It is not technically a re-match since he did not lose to Del Rio but he still feels he deserves another shot.

As far as Punk goes we don't know what direction he is heading in to. But if he fully ignores his re-match shot at the title, it is an insult to the belt. I don't think he will end up with the title program but they can't have him forget it entirely.

 

[warriorforever83]

the nash HHH involvement makes it interesting, it seems though lately storylines are just all over the place, if the clique reforms things could get VERY good fast tho