WWE Summerslam: Team Cena vs. Team Nexus

Who will be the traitor?

  • Khali

  • Morrison

  • Truth

  • Y2J

  • Edge

  • Bret Hart

  • Cena

  • None

  • Someone from outside the match


Results are only viewable after voting.
And R-Truth and Morrison are fitted to be in the main event? Yep, got it.

John Morrison is a young guy starting to enter his prime and although I think he is highly overrated, the WWE is still trying to push him and he is one of the top faces on the brand. R Truth was just recently US champion and next to Cena and Orton is easily the most over face on the entire RAW roster. They both certainly deserve to be on the team over the guys you have mentioned.


I don't mind the setup, I've already noted that. But it doesn't explain how come (Which is the first thing you quoted me on) Evan Bourne, Golddust and Mark Henry doesn't benefit more from being on team WWE, we've already covered that Nexus would earn more from beating Jericho and Edge than Bourne, Golddust or Henry, but in the end, wouldn't they benefit more from actually tasting main event time compared to Edge and Jericho, who really gets zero out of being in the main event, compared to the other guys?

I'm going to try and explain this to you one more time. Whether you want to believe it or not, Goldust and Mark Henry are no longer looked at as main event guys or even potential main event guys. They are veteran jobbers. Nothing more and nothing less. Putting them in the main event would make absolutely zero sense beyond the fact that they are faces but like I said this isn't faces vs heels, it's RAW vs Nexus. Maybe we should try putting Yoshi Tatsu, Santino, and Kozlov in their as well, because Goldust and Mark Henry are only one step above those guys on the RAW totem pole.

Mark Henry and Goldust have absolutely NO place in the main event of Summerslam. I guess a case can be made for Evan Bourne but I'd take R Truth and even Morrison over him any day when it comes to this angle.
 
John Morrison is a young guy starting to enter his prime and although I think he is highly overrated, the WWE is still trying to push him and he is one of the top faces on the brand. R Truth was just recently US champion and next to Cena and Orton is easily the most over face on the entire RAW roster. They both certainly deserve to be on the team over the guys you have mentioned.

You said it yourself, John Morrison is overrated. And quite frankly I find R-Truth almost more overrated. However I realize this explains nothing to how they're not warranted on the team, however John and R-Truth seems to be potentially stuck in the mid-card. John to say the least had many chances at getting over and into the main event, he had the perfect opportunity on Smackdown last year, but never capitalized, and quite frankly isn't worth capitalizing on. R-Truth is the same.

At least Evan Bourne has potential in the future, he may not become a main event talent (Or maybe he is, I don't know, not counting on it), but he is nowhere near the level he could, he could easily be a mid-card champion contender. But he isn't, this match could help it.


I'm going to try and explain this to you one more time. Whether you want to believe it or not, Goldust and Mark Henry are no longer looked at as main event guys or even potential main event guys. They are veteran jobbers. Nothing more and nothing less. Putting them in the main event would make absolutely zero sense beyond the fact that they are faces but like I said this isn't faces vs heels, it's RAW vs Nexus. Maybe we should try putting Yoshi Tatsu, Santino, and Kozlov in their as well, because Goldust and Mark Henry are only one step above those guys on the RAW totem pole.

I got that from the first time. However I just don't see why we can't put someone in there that actually serves a purpose of putting over talent? John Morrison and R-Truth could very well do the same, Edge and Jericho as well. But do you honestly think they wouldn't gain more credibility from beating them in a singles competition like The Nexus (or Wade Barrett primarily) seems to slowly get sucked into?

Mark Henry and Goldust have absolutely NO place in the main event of Summerslam. I guess a case can be made for Evan Bourne but I'd take R Truth and even Morrison over him any day when it comes to this angle.

Well we do have a final spot in there. Which I'm very much counting on to be Evan Bourne. At least I can only hope, for one it will kill any potential of the Bryan Danielson return (By god I'm starting to hate that one), and Bourne is most likely the most deserving one to be in there of anyone left on the roster.
 
You said it yourself, John Morrison is overrated. And quite frankly I find R-Truth almost more overrated. However I realize this explains nothing to how they're not warranted on the team, however John and R-Truth seems to be potentially stuck in the mid-card. John to say the least had many chances at getting over and into the main event, he had the perfect opportunity on Smackdown last year, but never capitalized, and quite frankly isn't worth capitalizing on. R-Truth is the same.

At least Evan Bourne has potential in the future, he may not become a main event talent (Or maybe he is, I don't know, not counting on it), but he is nowhere near the level he could, he could easily be a mid-card champion contender. But he isn't, this match could help it.

Evan Bourne is never going to go beyond the mid card. They gave him that little push a couple months back and it ended before it had really begun. Truth had to be on the team as the third most over face on the roster and Morrison still has some potential to be in the main event if he could just find some personality on the mic. Morrison and Truth are simply better suited for the match then Bourne.

I got that from the first time. However I just don't see why we can't put someone in there that actually serves a purpose of putting over talent? John Morrison and R-Truth could very well do the same, Edge and Jericho as well. But do you honestly think they wouldn't gain more credibility from beating them in a singles competition like The Nexus (or Wade Barrett primarily) seems to slowly get sucked into?

Just because the guys are in this 7 on 7 match doesn't mean they will never have single feuds with the Nexus. In fact I think it's better that they are in the match because some of those feuds could start at Summerslam. All of that aside, names like Edge and Jericho HAD to be in the main event. Names like Goldust and Henry DON'T BELONG in the main event.

Well we do have a final spot in there. Which I'm very much counting on to be Evan Bourne. At least I can only hope, for one it will kill any potential of the Bryan Danielson return (By god I'm starting to hate that one), and Bourne is most likely the most deserving one to be in there of anyone left on the roster.

I highly doubt the WWE would waste a surprise entry on Evan Bourne. If they do then more power to them but it would be a letdown in most peoples eyes.
 
Evan Bourne is never going to go beyond the mid card. They gave him that little push a couple months back and it ended before it had really begun. Truth had to be on the team as the third most over face on the roster and Morrison still has some potential to be in the main event if he could just find some personality on the mic. Morrison and Truth are simply better suited for the match then Bourne.

I never said he was gonna become more than a mid-card champion. However he has yet to reach that exact level, R-Truth and John Morrison have, and most likely won't ever become main event talent. They're over and all that, but John is inconsistent and boring as fuck, Truth is probably the better chance of the two, and he has yet to impress me in any way.

Just because the guys are in this 7 on 7 match doesn't mean they will never have single feuds with the Nexus. In fact I think it's better that they are in the match because some of those feuds could start at Summerslam. All of that aside, names like Edge and Jericho HAD to be in the main event. Names like Goldust and Henry DON'T BELONG in the main event.

Edge and Jericho would never get a singles feud with The Nexus, but they could very well put over the faction as a whole in a single aspect. Wade has already faced Edge, he has yet to face Jericho. But do you honestly think they cannot put over talent on a singles basic, compared to Evan Bourne, Mark Henry and Golddust who they're most likely already surpassed, or equal to.

Dominating lower card people makes you look good no matter what, at least if you ask me. Sheamus looked good against Golddust last week (I think it was last week?). Why have them fight a team they'll most likely struggle, and loose members to via elimination? Sure we can't have a 7-0 ending, but 3 main event talent on 1 team will most definitely make half The Nexus stand out like the lower / mid-card wrestlers they are.

I highly doubt the WWE would waste a surprise entry on Evan Bourne. If they do then more power to them but it would be a letdown in most peoples eyes.

And who is available for the surprise entrance? And please don't tell me Bryan Danielson. Triple H is out with an injury, Evan Bourne right now is the most potential surprise entry besides The Miz, and that's no surprise anymore now is it?
 
Edge and Jericho would never get a singles feud with The Nexus, but they could very well put over the faction as a whole in a single aspect. Wade has already faced Edge, he has yet to face Jericho. But do you honestly think they cannot put over talent on a singles basic, compared to Evan Bourne, Mark Henry and Golddust who they're most likely already surpassed, or equal to.

Dominating lower card people makes you look good no matter what, at least if you ask me. Sheamus looked good against Golddust last week (I think it was last week?). Why have them fight a team they'll most likely struggle, and loose members to via elimination? Sure we can't have a 7-0 ending, but 3 main event talent on 1 team will most definitely make half The Nexus stand out like the lower / mid-card wrestlers they are.

Please stop talking about Goldust and Mark Henry being in the main event. It makes ZERO sense and no one with a logical brain would put Goldust or Mark Henry at this point in their careers in the main event at Summerslam. I repeat, THIS IS SUMMERSLAM. The second biggest ppv of the year. The main event is for hot angles and the best superstars possible to make that angle reach it's full potential. Goldust and Henry do not belong.

And who is available for the surprise entrance? And please don't tell me Bryan Danielson. Triple H is out with an injury, Evan Bourne right now is the most potential surprise entry besides The Miz, and that's no surprise anymore now is it?

That's what makes it a surprise. The fact that no one really knows who it's going to be. Even if it does just end up being the Miz that would still be a lot better then Evan Bourne being the 7th guy.
 
Please stop talking about Goldust and Mark Henry being in the main event. It makes ZERO sense and no one with a logical brain would put Goldust or Mark Henry at this point in their careers in the main event at Summerslam. I repeat, THIS IS SUMMERSLAM. The second biggest ppv of the year. The main event is for hot angles and the best superstars possible to make that angle reach it's full potential. Goldust and Henry do not belong.

Say what you want Big Sexy, but I could both accept, as well as make sense in both of the two being featured at Summerslam.

That's what makes it a surprise. The fact that no one really knows who it's going to be. Even if it does just end up being the Miz that would still be a lot better then Evan Bourne being the 7th guy.

Yet you talk about Evan Bourne being a letdown if he is the final entrant to the team. But it makes perfect sense if it's simply a surprise? I don't get it. There's absolutely nobody with the amount of face reaction like Evan Bourne, or the amount of heel reaction like The Miz available on RAW right now. So what then? We draft Christian? Hardy?
 
Yet you talk about Evan Bourne being a letdown if he is the final entrant to the team. But it makes perfect sense if it's simply a surprise? I don't get it. There's absolutely nobody with the amount of face reaction like Evan Bourne, or the amount of heel reaction like The Miz available on RAW right now. So what then? We draft Christian? Hardy?

I'll say this. Outside of the Miz or a surprise entrant of someone returning, Evan Bourne is the best option. But I'd much rather see a surprise or the Miz because Bourne hasn't really done shit since his win over Jericho. He hasn't been put in many big match situations and the reaction from the crowd has seemed to fade somewhat as well.
 
I'll say this. Outside of the Miz or a surprise entrant of someone returning, Evan Bourne is the best option. But I'd much rather see a surprise or the Miz because Bourne hasn't really done shit since his win over Jericho. He hasn't been put in many big match situations and the reaction from the crowd has seemed to fade somewhat as well.

True that. I wouldn't mind watching Miz or a return in there. However from a surprise aspect, Evan Bourne would be a bigger surprise than Miz, because we already know Miz has been "offered" a spot, and is pondering it over. And there's really no returns that would either make sense, or are actually available to an extend that they can wrestle (Triple H).

Evan Bourne would to me, really be the best choice if we're to make it a better surprise, and Miz might be featured earlier in the night if he either tries, or actually cashes on Randy or Sheamus. And I don't see the world champion being booked into this match, much less when I believe Nexus will come out the winners. At least that they need to come out the winners.
 
I say the outcome to this match depends entirely on who wins the WWE title.

What I mean is, Nexus is going to win. At least they will if we want Nexus to look in any way decent after the first major challenge to their superiority.

The only real question, from what I see, is who is going to turn on Team WWE for Nexus to pull the win. It would make more sense for Nexus to win this by getting someone to turn as opposed to them completely manhandling their way through. Undermine Team Cena, and you undermine RAW. That's their whole point, is it not?

If Sheamus wins the title, then he has enough people to feud with. You can have Miz cash in and start a mini-feud over that until Cena can pull away from teh Nexus feud and install Orton as the new leader of Raw's resistance. You can also feed Bourne to him as your first real test of Bourne's ability to carry a feud. When the card is going to live off of Nexus/Raw, you can afford to throw out shit main events.

In this case, no one has to turn and betray Team WWE. Nexus will win, and Cena can continue the crusade against them. Cena could turn here, but why? For a heel/heel title feud against Sheamus? That would be shit, and we all know it. Cena would be getting pops over Sheamus and completely ruin the turn. If you absolutely have to have a betrayer, go with Khali or another of the miscellaneous mid-carders. John Morrison, with that shiny new beard, could go nicely. Sure, why the hell not?


If Orton wins....then we have a perfect foil to have Cena turn against. We really do. A tweener Orton against a newly heel, traitor Cena? Fuck yes. Perfect.

An Orton win also gives birth to new title feuds with Edge, Jericho, or a returning heel Triple H. If Triple H were to ever turn heel, he'd need to do it over the title and against Orton or Cena. Preferably both, if you can somehow get that working.

Honestly though. Look for the winner of the WWE title match, and that should give us a perfect view of who is going to turn in the Team Cena/Nexus match, if anyone at all. My money is on a basic Team Nexus victory, and Nexus turning on Sheamus. Thereby forcing Sheamus to work with Team Cena. Orton as champion can feud with Miz for all I care.
 
Imagine if Morrison turned on them... Honestly. That would be a nice push.
ESPECIALLY if he attacked Brett.

Match ends with Morrison standing over Hart?
Then that sets up a Morrison vs Cena fued again.
Morrison is pretty solid on the Microphone as a Heel.
And it could be a good chance to get him into the limelight again.


The match would be like, Nexus some how cheat Cena over with a roll up or something.
Then he gets banned from ringside, Hart & R Truth & Morrison left over, Team WWE elimnates a couple members from Nexus leaving Barret left. Barret rids of Truth.

Morrison kicks Brett in the stomach and hits that new move ( the C-4 ) or w.e and hit the SSP.

Thats just my wet dream though. Not the biggest Heel turn, But you wouldn't expect it.
 
According to WWE creative meetings. There are currently 3 possible scenarios to what will finish the main event for Team nexus vs Team Cena. These are my three predictions.

1. Cena going heel and turning on team WWE. It's been discussed a lot and this is probably the best one to go with.

2. Bret hart turning on team WWE. This can be brets chance to lead a young group and get his revenge from the montreal screwjob and run Monday Nights.

3. Triple H appearing during the end of the match. About to help team WWE but he turns his back and joins Nexus. I know Triple H isn't scheduled to start wrestling again until the end of this year but that doesn't mean he can't come and do heel like things with the Nexus. Sort of what CM punk is currently doing with the SES. This would be a major turn right next to Cenas heel turn.
 
as much as we all want to boo Cena, they wont turn him because he is every kids hero, requested to be a wish for make a wish, i mean turning him to the bad guy are just going to lose money there. Bret hart, who knows when his new wife gets sick of him being on the road so much pulls another stunt like she did before so if he turns they have to play this out for atleast 2 more months. That leaves us to the mystery man.....it wont be the rock he hasn't been in a ring for sometime and yea he bring a lot of excitement but he loving the movie biz so he not doing anything long term. If the Miz does come in the match he could make a "Pact" that if Randy Orton wins the WWE Title Nexus attacks him and he cashes in MITB and making him have the truce and making him untouchable by Sheamus.
 
As for Cena, I don't think this Nexus angle will turn him heel. If Cena turns heel it'll be about how everyone cheers Randy Orton more than they cheer for him and he's sick of the lack of respect he gets for what he does for the company. Maybe a Wrestlemania match between Randy vs Cena for the WWE Championship? Anyhow, I think the last man is The Miz and he will turn on Team "WWE" Raw either way if he's the last man or not. I wouldn't be surprised if he was associated with Nexus because I can't recall him running out and helping Team Raw or stop Nexus like everyone from the roster (I'm not sure). And Daniel Bryan was kicked out of Nexus maybe because of The Miz. Then they could have Miz vs Barrett for the Championship making Miz face after he cashes in at Summerslam. I don't know just a possibility. I have a feeling that Miz will interfere if he's associated or not with Nexus and screw Team "WWE" anyways. Shows how the WWE Creative has so many directions for this story! Guess we'll wait for Summerslam. Anyways, I'm pretty sure Nexus will win this match though.
 
Does there really have to be a traitor?

It's a question that seems stupid but it's my opinion that it would be far too predictable.

The Pro's for the traitor are simple. As good a leader Wade Barrett has been, adding someone who has a far bigger star would add another level of importance and shock to the whole storyline. Someone who is outstanding on the Mic like Cena or Jericho would give them a little bit of added threat and could stretch the storyline on for another few months to Survivor Series.

The con is that it would really put the Nexus rookies further in the background. Guys like Slater and Young who very rarely get anything to do will just completely fade into the shadows. Front men like Otunga, Sheffield and Barrett will have to take a step backward out of the Pro's spotlight. Gabriel may be the only one who won't be affected because his splash will be used as an exclaimation point throughout this storyline whatever happens, Sheffield may be able to boast the same about his clothesline but his mouth won't be as utilised. That all could make the difference in who actually remains on the roster after nexus and who is wished luck in future endeavours.

I get all that.

My point rests in history. For 7 year olds, that doesn't matter but the WWE, I can only hope, isn's naive to completely forget about the rest of us. Hell, Bret Hart is part of this match which is totally for the older viewers because the Bret Hart we're seeing right now isn't gaining much ground with the younger fans.

Lets start with the later half of 1998. DX became cool after Shawn Michaels left the group at Wrestlemania. X-Pac regrouped with his old friend Triple H, who now was the leader of DX, and Chyna and, later, The New Age Outlaws became one of the biggest face groups the company had seen since the Hart Foundation.
The Rock won his first WWE title, joining Vince McMahon's stable, The Corperation. He turned his back on the people and everything from the eyebrow to the elbow became Corporate... courtesy of the Corporate Champion.
Parallel to that storyline was the Undertaker returning from being Buried Alive as The Lord of Darkness, he began recruiting members such as Phineas Godwin and Mabel, changing them into dark minions named Mideon and Viscera and the Ministry of Darkness began to exist.

I liked doing that.

Anyway, long story short all three groups eventually started merging or, in The Corporation and DX's case, swapping members. The major shock horror moment was when Vince McMahon was revealed as the 'Higher Power' of the ministry merging the two stables as the Corporate Ministry.

This happened throughout the next 3 years. The McMahon Helmesly era kicked off when Stephanie revealed herself as traitor to her father, joining up with Triple H. Later, Vince made another traitorous turn by reuniting with them. Then we had the Invasion. There was first the Shane betrays his father and buys WCW. Then Stephanie and Paul Heyman's ECW revelation and then the shock that they were joining as part of the WCW invasion. There was Austin turning at the Inaugural Brawl. It just kept happening more and more. The final act of the Invasion was Angle's double agent role. Clever at the time. Very clever.

Betrayal has been part of every faction since then. NWO came and soon enough Hogan turned on them. Shawn Michaels returned and He and Triple H reformed DX... moments before he drilled him with a Pedigree. Evolution arrived and before you know it, Orton was being dropped from Batista's shoulders. Less than a year later, Batista turned on Triple H. Legacy was the latest band of brothers to implode as Rhodes and DiBiase got a little two big for their boots and was promptly booted out by Orton. And now we have Nexus. And in a storyline not seen since the Invasion, are we really going to see the same thing happen again less than 10 years since it last happened?

I want something else. There is always a traitor. I want something better than that. Wade Barrett has been talking for months now about a higher purpose that none of us understand. Can that please grow into something more than one of the egomaniacs at the top of the food chain wanting all the power? Only for that power to eventually be nothing more than the time between Vince needing a holiday and Vince coming back to 'Shockingly' side with them. As much as I really enjoyed the days of factions, particularly the McMahon Helmsley era, I don't really want it to happen again. There is always the chance it'll be done badly and this storyline has so much potential.

I expect there to be a traitor come Sunday. I'm hoping that if it has to be anyone it will be The Miz. There are all the pieces there. But I will have my fingers crossed for no traitor. Let something else happen for once instead!
 
anyone want to venture a guess on who will take khalis place? anyway,this has been wwe best story in awhile,i say it's a hell of alot better than the invasion angle years ago,and nexus seems like a more cohesive group than the nwo could ever dream of.i want to see nexus take out team cena,but i don't want them to stop there,i think after they beat raw,they need to show their dominance and run all over smackdown with their new leader........whoever that will be
 
I have to go with Cena turning on Team WWE. Cena is in need of a change. Costing Team WWE so Nexus can win would be a huge upset and not everyone will see it coming. Triple H is a close second reality, but I don't see him returning for another few months. Edge and Chris Jericho I see walking out in the match and get themselves counted out to eliminate themselves. R-Truth and Morrison get eliminated. Khali will be ganged up and eliminated or Khali is attacked before the match and Miz replaced him, but gets counted out/DQed. I see Bret and Cena being the last on Team WWE, but Cena turning on Hart in the end. That's my opinion anyway.
 
i dont think its anyone we expect i think they had the rock be nexus leader think of it that is perfect either that or he is the gm i mean they havent use his catch phrases or anything he could be the last partner of team wwe and reveal that he is the gm or they could put the undertaker as nexus leader
 
danielson returns and goes on team wwe [replacing khali]. blah blah blah. Down to bret, dragon, and wade barret. bret is taged in and is ambushed by dragon and puts bret in the cattle mutilation. He gets diqualified for being in the ring without taging. Then wade finishes bret and nexus wins.
 
I have to go with Cena turning on Team WWE. Cena is in need of a change. Costing Team WWE so Nexus can win would be a huge upset and not everyone will see it coming. Triple H is a close second reality, but I don't see him returning for another few months. Edge and Chris Jericho I see walking out in the match and get themselves counted out to eliminate themselves. R-Truth and Morrison get eliminated. Khali will be ganged up and eliminated or Khali is attacked before the match and Miz replaced him, but gets counted out/DQed. I see Bret and Cena being the last on Team WWE, but Cena turning on Hart in the end. That's my opinion anyway.
Not everyone would see it coming...yet 80 percent of posters here are convinced he'll turn heel. And I think Khali won't be able to wrestle following the attack by nexus.
 
am i the only one that thinks that big zeke will return to fill in for khail. he should be making his return sometime soon and being in this match will get some of the momentum back that he lost when he went down with his injury.
 
As sad as it is to say, I think the Miz will turn on team Raw, and then get his ass handed to him for his efforts when it's all said and done. I don't believe we'll find out who the "leader" of Nexus is tonight. This storyline has too much riding on it to just give it up on their first real competitive action. We may get some good hints, some misdirection, but I'd say that's about it.

You may even see them reveal the GM before they reveal the Leader, if they aren't the same person.
 
I'm really afraid they are booked into a corner here. If Nexus loses, they lose a ton of momentum and I really don't know where they go from here. If team Raw loses, without sabotage from within that is, the Nexus is too unstoppable and some of the top guys on Raw lost to a bunch of rookies. I say that even though this is one of the biggest pay-per-views of the year and I'm usually against this in big PPV main events, there needs to be some kind of shenanigans here. A clean win either way screws the other team badly from a booking perspective. Some kind of interference or someone turning on their team will lead to a win, most likely for the Nexus.
 
This match probably won't be all that good, but that's not what's on everyone's mind here. All of us want to know who the traitor is going to be. With the way things are going I would have to say it's going to be The Miz. He'll probably join the team, and stab them all in the back at some point. If this does happen, then it means The Miz will be on his way to elite status, because he has yet to cash in his MITB briefcase.

I see a lot of posts on this forum about how John Cena will turn heel tonight, but I just can't see it happening. I know everyone is foaming at the mouth for a Cena heel turn, but it just doesn't seem right to me. I know we would all love to see Cena come out on Raw tomorrow night, and cut a promo where he talks about being mistreated by the fans, how he's carried Raw, and how he wanted to take the show over. A Cena heel turn could happen some where down the line, but I just can't see it happening tonight.
 
It's obvious to me and everyone else that there will not be a clean victory tonight. However, i think it's odd that John Cena recently wrote on his Twitter about how this is going to be one of the biggest nights of his career!? Some how I think that's hinting towards something don't you!? Perhaps a change.?! I don't know. But I can't see Cena being baby face Cena anymore.
 
I'm really markin out right now, peeps. Daniel Bryan is back in the 'E this freakin quick? A lot of people on here and around the IWC had a feeling that he'd return, but I thought maybe Trips or Miz getting the shot. Wow, good job for team WWE, but the turn still remains...
 

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