WWE RAW LD 2/21/2011 - He's Here!

[FunKay the Inevitable]

So yeah.....I was the only person that loved this show wasn't I?

I commented on your review. It gets about a B from me, but that's possibly due to people annoying me over some of the angles.

 

[klunderbunker]

I loved it. This wasn't about wrestling tonight. We built the following:

Cole vs. Lawler
Rock/Cena
Miz vs. Cena
Sheamus vs. Bryan (maybe)
Bellas vs. Eve
HHH vs. Taker
Punk vs. Orton

That's not bad for two hours. We'll also ignore the two title changes, two returns of former world champions and a great promo by Cena. Pretty good two hours I'd think.

 

[JGlass]

Mediocre show, at best. Can't single out one thing I really enjoyed, and the Taker/HHH segment did absolutely nothing for me.

You didn't really enjoy Cena's promo? That shit was magical, like Lucky Charms mixed with Fruity Pebbles.

 

[Serious Jones]

 

[Y-2-Jay]

But what is set stone for next week? 2 weeks ago we knew about there was a major annoucement about who is the guest host. 1 week ago it was who is 2-21-11. This week we dont know shit which isn't good we need something to look forward too.

 

[JGlass]

So yeah.....I was the only person that loved this show wasn't I?

I thought it was very good, but I wouldn't say I LOVED it. I saw you gave it an A... I'd probably give it an A- or a B+.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

You didn't really enjoy Cena's promo? That shit was magical, like Lucky Charms mixed with Fruity Pebbles.

I enjoyed it much more than I usually enjoy Cena, but I think people are getting a bit carried away with how great it was.

 

[Serious Jones]

Cena's promo was one of the highlights of tonight. I've been enjoying Cena more lately than I have in years.

I think my problem with tonight wasn't so much the angles as much as the execution.

 

[Macca]

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=155215&page=2

This is wonderful. These little people seem to think their teeny tiney input of not watching Mania is going to absolutely ravage this show's chances of drawing. When will the IWC learn that their input on the E's success is nowhere near as great as they say it is?

 

[Stormtrooper]

KB said it right, we practically built the entire RAW Mania Card (and HHH/Taker, which is technically inter-brand), we get Cena out-promoing The Rock, Lawler/Cole (which was excellent, albeit the whole dead mother thing was a bit too much), and a pretty good Main Event (combine the 2 Tag Title Matches, and it was a good story).

People expect every week to be this absolutely amazing, untoppable show. This was a VERY GOOD SHOW. Not the best, but definitely not the worst. EASY B+ or higher.

 

[JGlass]

I enjoyed it much more than I usually enjoy Cena, but I think people are getting a bit carried away with how great it was.

Couldn't disagree with you more, I think that could wind up being one of the best promos we see all year long.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Couldn't disagree with you more, I think that could wind up being one of the best promos we see all year long.

Yeah, until Rock speaks again

 

[LitasRevenge79]

I don't see why some people are saying they are a bit disappointed with the staredown that happened with Trips and Deadman...they say it lacked depth. I, for one think it would make people want to tune in more and get to the bottom of this. Find out WHY?

 

[X]

KB said it right, we practically built the entire RAW Mania Card (and HHH/Taker, which is technically inter-brand), we get Cena out-promoing The Rock, Lawler/Cole (which was excellent, albeit the whole dead mother thing was a bit too much), and a pretty good Main Event (combine the 2 Tag Title Matches, and it was a good story).

Except every single one of those feuds apart from Triple H/Taker (which makes absolutely no sense kayfabe wise) were already being set up for the last month and a half. Nothing was built on this show in those feuds apart from Lawler challenging Cole to a match, all of those feuds were already in motion before tonight.

Main event was shit, and they made both Gabriel/Slater and the tag belts look like utter shit.

And Cena's promo was good, but nowhere near The Rock's from last week, that's just being absurd.


The show really wasn't that good. Decent is as high as I'd go.

 

[Moon Knight]

Maybe now all those Sting sigs can go away. Some still have them, he aint coming to WWE sadly.

 

[Y-2-Jay]

Cena's promo was good. But "Cena>Rock" are you kidding me?

 

[Stormtrooper]

Except every single one of those feuds apart from Triple H/Taker (which makes absolutely no sense kayfabe wise) were already being set up for the last month and a half. Nothing was built on this show in those feuds apart from Lawler challenging Cole to a match, all of those feuds were already in motion before tonight.

Bull fucking shit.

1. Bryan/Sheamus had virtually NOTHING before tonight, and now have something (that will probably lead to them fighting at Mania).
2. Miz/Cena had barely anything. Miz eliminated Cena at the Rumble, Cena cost Miz the match the next week, then nothing. Now they have not just animosity, but Miz looks like a credible threat to Cena (he hasn't before tonight).
3. Punk/Orton had nothing set in stone, now we've got all but confirmation that they'll be fighting at Mania.
4. Bella's/Eve had nothing before tonight, aside from a brawl last week.
5. Cena countered The Rock, which will lead to a retort from the former Great One.

Main event was shit, and they made both Gabriel/Slater and the tag belts look like utter shit.

I commented on your review on your website about that match, it actually WORKED.

It was done to build Miz as a capable threat to Cena. Miz beat the fuck out of Gabriel, hit him with his finisher, and practically DARED Slater to break up the Pin, and Slater said fuck that shit, I'm not getting in the ring with him, I'd rather lose the Tag Belts. Miz needed something to look CREDIBLE when he fights Cena at Mania. Now he has it.

And Cena's promo was good, but nowhere near The Rock's from last week, that's just being absurd.

again, bullshit. Rocks promo was great, but Cena's was better. If Rock hadn't been gone fore 7 years, we wouldn't be practically fapping over what he did last week.

The show really wasn't that good. Decent is as high as I'd go.

And you'd be wrong as all hell. It's an EASY B (or 6-7).

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Bull fucking shit.

Oh, Christ.

2. Miz/Cena had barely anything. Miz eliminated Cena at the Rumble, Cena cost Miz the match the next week, then nothing. Now they have not just animosity, but Miz looks like a credible threat to Cena (he hasn't before tonight).

So by nothing, you actually mean they have had problems recently? Not to mention the long, long history of absolutely hating each other.

3. Punk/Orton had nothing set in stone, now we've got all but confirmation that they'll be fighting at Mania.

Minus Orton punting a Nexus member back to FCW, and the intense hatred shown for one another at EC.

4. Bella's/Eve had nothing before tonight, aside from a brawl last week.

No. One. Cares.

Wow, you were wrong about..everything.

 

[Stormtrooper]

So by nothing, you actually mean they have had problems recently? Not to mention the long, long history of absolutely hating each other.

No, I mean both of them went on to other things after their beef was settled. They both got the better end on each other, then BOTH went on to feud with other people (Miz with Lawler, Cena with the Chamber opponents). And what LONG history? A 2 month feud (if that) in 2009 in which Cena didn't give a fuck about The Miz and disposed of him rather easily? Yeah, I'd say that wasn't much of a "long" history of "absolutely hating each other".

Minus Orton punting a Nexus member back to FCW, and the intense hatred shown for one another at EC.

and CM Punk CLEANLY pinning Orton RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING RING. Yeah, I'd say that tonight added a shit-ton to that feud. Yes, it isn't a brand spanking new, these guys have never touched each other before feud, but to all but officially say they are going to Mania adds a ton to the feud.

No. One. Cares.

Actually, while it may not be a big feud, to say no one cares is pretty wrong. fans of the Divas division care. fans of Eve/the Bellas would care.

And you calling me wrong, then not once even TRYING to PROVE me wrong just proves one thing, that YOU are wrong.

Wow, you were wrong about..everything.

no, I wasn't. Actually, you replied to 3 of my 5 things I listed, and were wrong about 2 of them, and basically admitted I was right in the 3rd.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news Nicky Boy, but actually, YOU were wrong about..everything.

 

[X]

My response to your comment on my blog Stormtrooper:

"And KB said it best, this entire show was about building the card for Mania (which it had to be about). What did we get? HHH/Taker, Sheamus/Bryan, Cole/Lawler, Punk/Orton, and Miz/Cena."

The only one of those that actually set up anything meaningful was Cole and Lawler. Taker/HHH just stared at each other, which sets up nothing. Sheamus and Bryan exchanged dirty looks backstage, that's it, I'd hardly call that setting up anything. Punk and Orton have already been feuding for weeks and nothing was set up tonight there either. You're reading way too much into it, we got minor foreshadowing, nothing was "set up".

"And while it looks and sounds stupid, Miz going over like he did really works for me. He showed dominance, which is something he needs to do every once in a while to maintain credibility as a Main Eventer. He beat the hell out of Gabriel, then hit his finisher, and looked at Slater during the pin (daring him to enter the ring) and Slater said fuck that shit, I'm not getting near him. It honestly made Miz look like a credible threat to be able to legit win matches against Main Eventers. "

Sorry, but what part about Miz getting the shit beat out of him for the entire second match and then getting the hot tag to Cena showed dominance? Yeah he pinned Heath Slater earlier. Heath fucking Slater. Hardly something to brag about. He showed no dominance whatsoever, he showed he can get the shit beat out of him for nearly 10 minutes, tag his partner in, and then betray that partner.

I'm not just being critical to be critical. I've given the last 3 or 4 WWE shows, including TV, rave reviews. Tonight's show was nothing special though. At all. Little wrestling, and an underwhelming conclusion to the 2-21-11 "mystery". Some of you are getting way too caught up in Wrestlemania fever and are seeing everything through rose-tinted glasses methinks.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I think Miz looked very credible. For once, he wasn't the one throwing elbows or going for cheap shots to get control of the match. He was showing how far these men were beneath them by doing something as simple as controlling them just by leveraging their arm. When the momentum shifted, it was because of dirty tactics on The Corre's part and it was continual dirty tactics that kept the momentum shifted their way. Arguably, he even restored some pride after hitting Cena with the SCF.

Also, I like his jackets.

 

[Uncle Sam]

On another note, I found this and it made chuckle somewhat:

 

[.]

Ok, Last night's RAW sucked. Other than Cena's promo and HHH/'Taker nothing was any good. Also when the hell will WWE learn that title changes like what happened last night DON'T FUCKING WORK!

 

[gd]

Michael Cole made me chuckle last night.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

This show didn't need to be about wrestling. It was all about setting up or advancing storylines for WM matches.