It wasn't smart on a physical level I don't disagree with that. Career wise you ahve to admit it helps him get even more over. It makes him look like an undestrucible superman.
Even if it did make him look good, I am 100% sure that someone with the intelligence of Triple H wouldn't politic to get something that could possibly hurt his long term career.
It makes Randy look like a weak champion. I don't think it makes Orton credible at all, then to turn around the next night on Raw and not be able to beat HHH with the help of Umaga.
Let's add that HBK comes out and destroys Orton on RAW, he looks like a very weak champion right now.
No Mercy then Raw the following night made it appear that the only way Orton can beat HHH is if he wrestles twice before.
The HBK part cant be attributed to Triple H... he was a returning wrestler he had to look strong, and considering Orton was the one that put HBK out in the first place it made sense.
Okay then you think it made Orton look weak, thats your opinion and I respect that. But lets think about this for a second shall we, isn't the way Triple H is currently being booked the way Cena has been booked for lord knows how long? So there is some continuity in the booking there, how could Triple H be blamed for the booking team doing this? It's not like he is the only person going over everyone like a superman.. it seems to be how the WWE want to book their top faces at the moment, and Triple H just so happens to be the top Face on RAW at this time so it would make sense that he would get this type of push. We dont like it sure, but Triple H can hardly be blamed for the way he is booked.
What do his backstage polotics have to do with that? He has to do it in order to keep the fans interested. If he came out and squashed Umaga every week before teh PPV the fans would lose interest.
The point I was making is that if Triple H were to be that bad of a politicker and have Vince in his back pocket he could do what he wanted. You seem to think he is and so him putting Umaga over in that way shows that if he indeed does have all the power backstage he does do things to put people over when he is needed to do it. If he had THAT much power he could have burried Umaga completely, but he didn't which leads me to believe that he doesn't have Vince in his back pocket as alot of people think.
While there may not be guys on par with The Rock or Steve Austin I would say that Edge is just as good on the mic as HHH. (better in my opinion, but I'm an Edge mark) Carlito is a very good mic worker, so is John Cena. (Cena is better than HHH on the mic) JBL is better on the mic. Kennedy is just as good
if not better. HHH doesn't stand alone when it coems to mic work.
I dont recall saying Triple H stands alone in terms of Mic Work.
However, if the writers were taking advantage of him knowing the business well, would that not mean he is influencing storylines?
Not nessesarily, not his own anyway. Who's to say he doesn't just sit in on the meetings and not say a word, to get a feel for what is going on behind the scenes when he does eventually take a position backstage. The point I am making is that none of us actually knows exactly what goes on behind the scenes so its unfair to try and judge anyone on what they do backstage because we simply dont know anything about it.
I've actually only seen it talked about here. I don't visit those other sites.
Is there or is there not a banned move list? Yes there is. Ask Paul London and RVD
Of HHH moveset how many moves is he no longer able to use?
HHH himself said several years ago that he is nervous when he does the pedigree because it's one of the most dangerous moves in the business. If he lands wrong he could break his opponets neck. Now wouldn't that jsutify banning that move to prevent injury?
Thats a ridiculous statement, the same could be said of any wrestling move "if someone lands wrong they could be hurt". Are you truely saying that Triple H has somehow influenced Vince into not banning a move that could potentially end someone's career? If so its a stupid comment that has no basis. The Tombstone is just as if not more dangerous than the Pedigree but you dont see that being banning, did the Undertaker get in Vince's ear about that too?
Think before you speak (or type).
I say HHH needed those 11 title reigns. What was he before those reigns? What was he before DX? a nobody. He was a WCW reject that was feuding with a garbage man.
What was Steve Austin before "Austin 3:16"? What was the Undertaker before the Phenom Gimmick? What was Mick Foley before "Cactus Jack, Dude Love and Mankind"? Nothing... every wrestler needs something or someone to get over DX and Michaels was the way they got Triple H over.
Who did the Undertaker need to team with before he became a main eventer? What big name did he align himself with to propel him into that status?
Maybe Undertaker didn't have that over Wrestler to get him over, but he had one of the most unique gimmicks in the history of the business given to him. He didn't need it. But he did need wrestlers to put him over, just like Triple H and just like everyone else.
HHH teaming with HBK and forming DX without question propelled HHH into a main event position.
Well Duh.
Yes every wrestler needs someone to get them over. I'm saying HHH needed a lot of help to do it. Some people don't have to struggle so long to get over. examples, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Goldberg. All 3 brought in as top guys in their companies and all 3 were main eventers within a year. Yeh people had to get them over (goldberg and lesnar obviously squashed everyone, angle did it through actually having ability and putting on good matches)
All three of those guys were given absolute monster pushes from the get go. Look at people like Austin, Foley, Benoit etc... and see how long it took them to get there. Does it mean they were bad at what they did? No. It just means they were not given the push immediately when they entered the company (or WCW in Goldberg's case). Anyone can get over if they go over the entire roster in the manner Goldberg did.
Also if you'd recall Triple H was held back for quite a while because of the Curtain Call incident in which he took most of the wrap for. So to say he was always the golden boy that needed everything the company could hand to him to get over is another ridiculous comment.
you said maybe jeff didn't do anything to deserve a push, I was giving an example that the wwe doesn't always push deserving talen, they push who they want.
I was saying I didn't think Jeff deserved to be World Champion, nothing more.
are you saying that the wwe punishes wrestlers for making mistakes?
Take a long look at the list of people fired over the years... yes, they do punish people for their mistakes.
Did Randy Orton not fuck up? Yet look who the world champion is...a friend of HHH.
Randy Orton and Triple H Good friends? Source please.
what's hhh?
he has 3 big moves that he uses in almost every match, spinebuster, knee to the face and a pedigree. Let's not forget his gimmick "sledgehammer" that's a little played out by now and way too predictible.
I fucking knew this would happen, the fans aren't happy with pissing all over Cena for only using three moves not a couple of weeks after he is gone, they turn their attention to someone else. Triple H wrestles how he is told to wrestle, go back and watch his ring work from 99-2000 and you'll get an idea of what Triple H can do.
I'm sick to death of people laying the blame on the wrestlers for how they are booked. Triple H is TOLD to use the sledgehammer, he has been told to tone down his Wrestling Style... not only by the bookers I'd imagine its probably good for his Quads not to be jumping around the ring like a madman every night. I'd rather see Triple H toned down, than Triple H in a wheel chair.
Someone already stated that I was refering to Randy Orton, again showing that the WWE plays favorites and shockingly enough Randy Orton is HHH's little buddy.
Again... source?
Can you confirm that in fact was fired for pot addiction? As far as I know it was pain killers.
and again, I don't go to those sites
I always thought it was pot related, Pain Killers or Pot it doesn't really make a difference to me. And its besides to argument here anyway.
) indicate this is another HHH powertrip and he's burying the Brawler.
Thanks. I almost died laughing when I first heard that.