Again, explain to me exactly how wrestling Three times in one night for someone who has not long returned from an injury that could have ended his career is a good move? One thing that most people agree on is that Triple H is a smart man... and smart men don't politic for things that could be detrimental to their career.
It wasn't smart on a physical level I don't disagree with that. Career wise you ahve to admit it helps him get even more over. It makes him look like an undestrucible superman.
I'm not going to debate how good or bad the No Mercy stuff was, because firstly I haven't seen it. But I can see the logic behind the booking. Randy Orton get awarded the title getting him immense Heat. Triple H beats him for the Title adding another twist to the tale... Orton then wins it back keeping the heat form the earlier title award, and thus giving him something credible to build his title run on. But thats just me, I tend to see the logic in most things.
It makes Randy look like a weak champion.
I don't think it makes Orton credible at all, then to turn around the next night on Raw and not be able to beat HHH with the help of Umaga.
Let's add that HBK comes out and destroys Orton on RAW, he looks like a very weak champion right now.
No Mercy then Raw the following night made it appear that the only way Orton can beat HHH is if he wrestles twice before.
But isn't the argument that Triple H is an egomaniac that wont put anyone over? Sure any other wrestler would have HAD to do that in order to put the storyline over but not Triple H right? If he has half the backstage stroke and the ego that you say he has surely he would have completely buried Umaga regardless of what he "should" have done? Right there you just proved my point completely that Triple H doesnt have a massive ego and he doesn't have as much power backstage as people believe.
What do his backstage polotics have to do with that?
He has to do it in order to keep the fans interested.
If he came out and squashed Umaga every week before teh PPV the fans would lose interest.
Triple H can only work with what he is given, like any other wrestler. I think another poster pointed out that some of his Evolution stuff really shows exactly what he is capable of on the mic. Sure he is no Rock or Austin, but who is? The two of those guys were one in a million (or two
) and there are very few people that have anything on them in terms of mic work... however thats not to say Triple H still isn't one of the best mic workers in the WWE today.
While there may not be guys on par with The Rock or Steve Austin I would say that Edge is just as good on the mic as HHH. (better in my opinion, but I'm an Edge mark) Carlito is a very good mic worker, so is John Cena. (Cena is better than HHH on the mic) JBL is better on the mic. Kennedy is just as good
if not better.
HHH doesn't stand alone when it coems to mic work.
Well it was completely irrelivent and pointless to the topic at hand, even if it was sarcastic.
It wasn't irrelevant, someone stated that HHH is allowed tohave a huge ego because he's a great wrestler.
I'm not blind that it has been reported that Triple H sits in on those meetings. But the keyword there is reported... how exactly do we know, does one of the Wrestlezone reporters sit under the table with his laptop listening in to the meetings to check if he actually is there? I don't think so. But lets assume thats correct and that Triple H is indeed in on the meetings, there for me are some extremely good reasons for this. Firstly Triple H has always struck me in every interview I have seen him in, as a very smart person, and someone that knows the business extremely well, maybe Vince and the writers want to take advantage of that? Secondly we can't hide from the fact that he is married to Stephanie McMahon, and that when Vince decides to retire its been widely reported that she will run the wrestling aspect of the business... wouldn't it be safe to assume that Triple H will play some part also? Is it not possible that he is being groomed for a future position on the booking team once he hangs up his boots?
considering I don't know wrestlezones sources for all I know one of the sources could be sitting in on those meetings. I don't want to specualte so I'll give you this one.
However, if the writers were taking advantage of him knowing the business well, would that not mean he is influencing storylines?
Let me guess... Wrestling Observer? Prowrestling.com? Thats a ridiculous statement and one that has absolutely no basis other than a few internet smarks who happen to be on the writing team of some of the worst wrestling news sites on the Internet and obviously have an Axe to grind with Triple H. Show me some proof that Triple H did indeed get moves banned for his own advancement and I'll believe you, and not before.
I've actually only seen it talked about here. I don't visit those other sites.
Is there or is there not a banned move list? Yes there is. Ask Paul London and RVD
Of HHH moveset how many moves is he no longer able to use?
HHH himself said several years ago that he is nervous when he does the pedigree because it's one of the most dangerous moves in the business. If he lands wrong he could break his opponets neck. Now wouldn't that jsutify banning that move to prevent injury?
Who says Triple H needed those 11 Title reigns? And Undertaker has had plenty of help along the way in terms of being put over by various people and teaming with various people. Don't all wrestlers at some point get put over by someone at some point, they dont become stars on their own, this is the way Mega-stars are built they dont just grow on trees.
I say HHH needed those 11 title reigns. What was he before those reigns? What was he before DX? a nobody. He was a WCW reject that was feuding with a garbage man.
Who did the Undertaker need to team with before he became a main eventer? What big name did he align himself with to propel him into that status?
HHH teaming with HBK and forming DX without question propelled HHH into a main event position.
Yes every wrestler needs someone to get them over. I'm saying HHH needed a lot of help to do it. Some people don't have to struggle so long to get over. examples, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Goldberg. All 3 brought in as top guys in their companies and all 3 were main eventers within a year. Yeh people had to get them over (goldberg and lesnar obviously squashed everyone, angle did it through actually having ability and putting on good matches)
Also the Undertakers gimmick never required him to hold the Title as much as maybe someone else would need to in order to get over. His gimmick was that unique that the gimmick didn't need the belt, in fact it probably would have hurt him more than anything.
please explain this further.
Who's talking about Khali? What I am saying is that Jeff Hardy is a spot monkey with less charisma than Khali on crack (okay thats a bit unfair, but you get my point). Anyway this is besides the point, maybe Jeff would get over with the right push, but in my experience with Jeff everytime he gets close to getting that huge push, he fucks up in some way.
you said maybe jeff didn't do anything to deserve a push, I was giving an example that the wwe doesn't always push deserving talen, they push who they want.
are you saying that the wwe punishes wrestlers for making mistakes?
Did Randy Orton not fuck up? Yet look who the world champion is...a friend of HHH
what's hhh?
he has 3 big moves that he uses in almost every match, spinebuster, knee to the face and a pedigree. Let's not forget his gimmick "sledgehammer" that's a little played out by now and way too predictible
When did Triple H smoke pot, isn't it Jeff that was reportedly fired for his pot addiction? I've never heard of Triple H trashing hotel rooms... must be the Wrestling Observer filling your head with mindless misinformation again.
Maybe if Jeff was half the worker Triple H is, maybe if Jeff had half the passion for the business Triple H does he might get his oh so deserved push. But he isn't and he doesn't so live with it and stay on topic here.
Someone already stated that I was refering to Randy Orton, again showing that the WWE plays favorites and shockingly enough Randy Orton is HHH's little buddy.
Can you confirm that in fact was fired for pot addiction? As far as I know it was pain killers.
and again, I don't go to those sites
