Shattered Dreams

you just don't get it do you?

TNA does shit wrong constently. It's your inability to acknowledge this that people don't like. You defend the stupid shit even other die hard TNA fans think is ******ed.
 
Ever wonder how we are both storngly in favor of TNA and defend it all day long, but yet people like me and dislike you? You're going wrong somewhere. That's what you need to fix. Not your pro-TNA attitude.

My goal has never been to be liked by those that push misguided notions as fact about TNA. Is it me taking it "too far" or others not taking it far enough? For me it is not all about making friends over the internet. It is a nice byproduct when it happens but why would I want dirtyjose to like me?
 
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Ever wonder how we are both storngly in favor of TNA and defend it all day long, but yet people like me and dislike you? You're going wrong somewhere. That's what you need to fix. Not your pro-TNA attitude.

This says it all right here. It's not the pro-TNA opinion that can sometimes be the problem, it's the manner in which it is expressed, especially when on occasion it is mind-numbingly blind.
 
He sticks to his guns. He's got my respect for that at least.

Even though you're wrong sometimes :)

Aren't we all? I like the respect angle. It is how I feel about some people. Habs would be a good example. Considering how my opinion is so different from many on here mutual respect is about the best to hope for I think.

You defend the stupid shit even other die hard TNA fans think is ******ed.

Care to give some examples? I think I am a victim of the vague description of a blind mark maybe more than anyone. It is never specifics and when they provide one I usually can debunk it easily.
 
I'm on my phone but I'll look for them tommorrow.

Damn, and I was starting to think I was important or something.

It is an open challenge if anyone else is interested. Where do I defend something that no one else does in the TNA?

Habs, I am hardly the only person on here that talks down to people in discussions, hell, many of those that do are respected posters and/or mods. Do you really think the people that come in to trash TNA in the TNA section "express it in a manner" so different than I do?
 
Habs, I am hardly the only person on here that talks down to people in discussions, hell, many of those that do are respected posters and/or mods.

Who said anything about talking down to people? Not my words. Shit man, if anything I've been trying to defend you somewhat, at least as much as I am able to. I would just respectfully suggest that your opinions are often well-expressed (even though usually wrong :) )but they do tend to be somewhat blindly positive toward anything TNA, and by default, blindly negative toward WWE. But I never suggested you talk down to anyone in discussions here, although there are plenty of other guys on here who do so.
 
Fair enough, I thought that is what people were getting at with what you described as the manner expressed. If you just mean I take some jabs at the dumb shit I think WWE does then guilty as charged. You've never done that towards tna ;). Like I said earlier, I respect you habs, we just have an inescapable difference of opinion. I do not think that makes either of us blind though.

I do truly believe I am more reasonable than I get credit for though. At least I go to length to explain my opinions instead of just saying them and expecting everyone to obviously agree like many idiots do on here.
 
It didn't take you ten months. You forgot the thread I made about you calling me a nazi.
 
My goal has never been to be liked by those that push misguided notions as fact about TNA. Is it me taking it "too far" or others not taking it far enough? For me it is not all about making friends over the internet. It is a nice byproduct when it happens but why would I want dirtyjose to like me?
He's dirty. That should be reason enough. But seriously, I don't see why you have to be such an antagonist when addressing the pro-TNA/anti-WWE topic. You speak in a derogatory manner when addresing pro-WWE posters and the stuff that goes on there. It makes you no better than the very posters you debate with. Makes you worse and hypocritical actually.

I do truly believe I am more reasonable than I get credit for though. At least I go to length to explain my opinions instead of just saying them and expecting everyone to obviously agree like many idiots do on here.
Yes. I get that you explain yourself, but like I said, some times you act no better than the "TNA sux and should just fold" guys. I like you. Probably the only guy who does, but you really should fix that. Look at Joe's. He's very well liked around here. He's nice. He doesn't point fingers in defense. I'm blunt. I call it from a broad point of view, cool calm and collected and try to keep it clean. You can do it too.
 
Sometimes I just shrug my shoulders and re-assure myself he is trolling the forums, because the points he makes sometimes aren't... well... let's not beat around the bush, sometimes he hasn't got a point and inserts filler sentences to confuse people. Definitely showing shades of proper internet trolls.

Although, I'd like to see how he would fair if he joined WZCW as an RPer.
 
It didn't take you ten months. You forgot the thread I made about you calling me a nazi.

Was that its own thread? Might have missed that one, I resisted the infinite time waster that is the cage for a long time because I only have so much time to waste usually. The only thing I remember was you saying in a couple different places that you wished I would die or something like that. Which, call me crazy, is a little worse than a nazi reference. I always wondered why exactly you said that out of the blue because I am pretty sure that happened before hitlergate.

He's dirty. That should be reason enough. But seriously, I don't see why you have to be such an antagonist when addressing the pro-TNA/anti-WWE topic. You speak in a derogatory manner when addresing pro-WWE posters and the stuff that goes on there. It makes you no better than the very posters you debate with. Makes you worse and hypocritical actually.

I do not think I am "derogatory." Name calling etc. is something I try not to waste my time on except in jest while dirtyjose devotes his entire being to it. Antagonistic at times sure but rarely derogatory. Sometimes the so called antagonizing is going to appear to be there no matter what. We have people butting heads with obviously strong feelings on opposite sides of an issue. If they want to present it in an antagonizing way I think they deserve to have it thrown back at them in such a way when they are "wrong." I rarely "antagonize" someone presenting their argument in a fair way. I do not see anything hypocritical in this approach.

Yes. I get that you explain yourself, but like I said, some times you act no better than the "TNA sux and should just fold" guys. I like you. Probably the only guy who does, but you really should fix that. Look at Joe's. He's very well liked around here. He's nice. He doesn't point fingers in defense. I'm blunt. I call it from a broad point of view, cool calm and collected and try to keep it clean. You can do it too.

I highly dispute I ever portray myself anything like the TNA sux people. When is it I am not keeping it clean since you bring it up several times here? You think it is a coincidence that the people they like more are coincidentally less likely to call them on their bs and more accepting of WWE. I do not. For my tastes sometimes nice doesn't get the job done. You cannot ride the fence when D-man posts his monthly thread about TNA. It will get you nowhere.

To me, appeasing these people by pretending I like more about wwe than I do or less about TNA than I legitimately do would be the hypocritical thing. Most of the time when I bring up WWE it is a simple comparison to show the hypocrisy in saying something is a TNA only problem. When the definition of reasonable is their own personal opinions I am glad they consider me unreasonable because I do not share the majority of them.
 
Was that its own thread? Might have missed that one, I resisted the infinite time waster that is the cage for a long time because I only have so much time to waste usually. The only thing I remember was you saying in a couple different places that you wished I would die or something like that. Which, call me crazy, is a little worse than a nazi reference. I always wondered why exactly you said that out of the blue because I am pretty sure that happened before hitlergate.

Typical shattered dreams: prove him wrong about one thing and he goes off on a tangent about how it's anyone else's fault but his. Suck it up kid; you really were dumb enough to call people nazis over wrestling fans. Sounds just like that idiot with the recent "mods are ******s" thread who tried telling me that "mod elitism" around here was comparable to slavery and institutional racism.

I do not think I am "derogatory." Name calling etc. is something I try not to waste my time on except in jest while dirtyjose devotes his entire being to it.

You say that as I'm planning out my WZCW RP for the week. Raise your hand if you're planning on trying to out RP TY Burna and out debate Dave in the same week. Yeah, that's what I thought. Just because I may enjoy stepping out of my way to piss on you any chance I get doesn't mean it's all I do around here. But go ahead and whip up a paragraph or two and try and blame your misconception on anything but your own willful ignorance; that seems to be your thing.
 
You know who needs a life more than people who bash other people in the cage?

The people who can't stop defending things in a non-spam setting. Those people will never win.
 
Actually jose the thing that annoys me the most about you is that you often play to the lowest common denominator in spite of clearly being capable of better. Have I been denying the nazi thing could have been presented better? No, it was unoriginal and pointless hyperbole among other things. That being said it was one comment and it is idiotic to claim it is indicative of everything I do. I also find it more than a little bit confusing that you think the way you regularly post is above the nazi reference standards.

Coco, if I see a conversation or debate that interests me then I will usually go with it wherever it may be. Personal preference I guess.
 
Wow seriously I did not relies that half of you are Jews.

I think Shattered Dreams is a really good poster on these forums. He stands up for TNA and bashes WWE because that's the way he feels about each product. I also think Shattered Dreams is like TNA for example people bash him but I think he is really good and better than most posters.
 
Wow seriously I did not relies that half of you are Jews.

I think Shattered Dreams is a really good poster on these forums. He stands up for TNA and bashes WWE because that's the way he feels about each product. I also think Shattered Dreams is like TNA for example people bash him but I think he is really good and better than most posters.

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