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I would like to see Orton win the title, but look at this...
Wrestlemania 23 = ALOT of people though Michaels was going to win his final title here, and they though it was going to be the end of the Cena run. They were wrong.
Judgement Day = The Great Kahli had been beating the crap outta Cena for weks, and some people actually though they'd give him a short title run just to get it off Cena for a while. They were wrong.
ECW June 26th = The First ECW since Morrison won the ECW title, and they feed him to Cena ASAP. Most people would have at least though Cena could have jobbed to give the new champ a bit of well needed credibility. They were wrong.
The Great American Bash = The best example. Vince had been building Lashley up for a while now, gave him the ECW title way to early, had him plow throiugh everyone he could, he even shaved Vinces head! And at the Bash, people though Lashley was finally going to unseat Cena because Vince would want it, and vince had been quoted as saying "Cena didn't need the title anymore to get over."... THEY were also wrong.
What am I getting at? Vince is making things seem like Orton ill win the title with HHH wanting him to do it. Face the facts, with Ortons problems lately, there is no way he will win the title. Vince has the whole IWC thinking Orton will win this, but in the end, Cena will counter the RKO into an FU and "F" what we all want to see. Lets hope I'm wrong.
Originally posted by Edge418
i personaly think orton will win it and loose it at unforgiven to tripple h,i hope this is the case as john cena has been champion for to long
Look at orton, he has hurt many of the legends that made wwe. Dusty Rodes, HBK ect
No actually i think he'll hold until the rumble or maybe even wrestlemania! No chance in hell that orton will be transition champ again! HHH is going to have to wait.
You are correct. I don't know how dumb you'd have to be to think Orton's gonna beat Cena for the title and turn around and lose it to HHH right away. First of all, it makes no sense to end the Cena/Orton fued that quickly. Second, it makes even less sense (which seems impossible) to blow Triple H vs. Orton at fucking Unforgiven. That's a huge dream match. That's a WrestleMania match that you might blow at Survivor Series, but not at Unforgiven.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Orton loses at SummerSlam before beating Cena to win the title at Unforgiven.
The scenario I see playing out has Orton beating Cena for the title and finishing him off around Cyber Sunday, Triple H disposing of King Booka at Summerslam and maybe one more match at Unforgiven, fueding with somebody else (Kennedy or Carlito?) in October, and then having the big collision with Orton at Survivor Series. He wins the title, that fued lasts until Royal Rumble. Then, of course, Cena wins the Royal Rumble to set up the dream match of Triple H vs. John Cena.
i believe they will go with this idea. take the title off cena and put it on randy orton. why? because whether you like to think of him as a total a-hole or not, he really does deserve it ya know? hes busted his ass since he lost the WHC and to think someone like triple h, the guy who thought the championship was practically the other love of his life if there was one, is pushing for orton to do this, then it should happen. Randy Orton deserves the WWE Championship. not taking anything away from John Cena, hes a great athlete in my book, i dont care what you people think cause obviously you cannot see greatness but seriously...Cena has held that title for toooo long. i honestly believe they should just send him to SD! and throw him in the WHC title run. hes better than batista. all batista is, is a huge rock with arms and legs and goes RAWR! like a dumbass. so yeah, thats why i think orton should win it. hes talented, young, an amazing athlete and in my opinion, could carry RAW. and i also think they should turn orton babyface so that he could feud with Mr. Kennedy. seeing as how kennedy is now the big heel and everything ya know?
Kennedy is not a "big heel". The guys gets pops everytime he is out in the ring. Orton is the bigger heel of the two. Orton is expected to be the top heel for the next 3-4 months. The whole illigitimate child storyline, from what i have read on the main board, will make Mr. Kennedy into a top heel, perhaps THE top heel of the company. As far as Cena goes, I dont hate the guy but you using "greatness" and Cena in the same sentence is pretty damn funny. You kinda lost creditbility in my book with that statement. His charecter and title run is stale and has been since WM. IMO, Cena should turn heel. It would freshen up his charecter and would generate interest again...just a thought.
Brian
i believe they will go with this idea. take the title off cena and put it on randy orton. why? because whether you like to think of him as a total a-hole or not, he really does deserve it ya know? hes busted his ass since he lost the WHC and to think someone like triple h, the guy who thought the championship was practically the other love of his life if there was one, is pushing for orton to do this, then it should happen. Randy Orton deserves the WWE Championship. not taking anything away from John Cena, hes a great athlete in my book, i dont care what you people think cause obviously you cannot see greatness but seriously...Cena has held that title for toooo long. i honestly believe they should just send him to SD! and throw him in the WHC title run. hes better than batista. all batista is, is a huge rock with arms and legs and goes RAWR! like a dumbass. so yeah, thats why i think orton should win it. hes talented, young, an amazing athlete and in my opinion, could carry RAW. and i also think they should turn orton babyface so that he could feud with Mr. Kennedy. seeing as how kennedy is now the big heel and everything ya know?
"i believe they will go with this idea. take the title off cena and put it on randy orton. why? because whether you like to think of him as a total a-hole or not, he really does deserve it ya know? hes busted his ass since he lost the WHC and to think someone like triple h, the guy who thought the championship was practically the other love of his life if there was one, is pushing for orton to do this, then it should happen."
With all due respect Jawn87... are you smoking crack or taking mushrooms? While most of your post made a degree of sense, I couldn't help but question your sanity with the line reagrding Orton winning the title "he really does deserve it, you know?" Besides doing his job since losing the WHC, what has Orton done to deserve the strap? His promos are monotone, arrogant diatrabes without any convincing emotion. I'll say this again and again, if Orton expects to be a real superstar in the industry, he's got to take his acting level beyond that of a high school drama club. And while you might say Batista, Khali, and Lashley don't have any mic skills, in the case of Lashley, you've got a powerhouse who has a good degree of mobility in the ring. While he probably shouldn't have been given a world title so soon, Lashley has the skills in the ring, or at least potential to be a dominant force in the next few years. While Khali's ring skills and promo skills are laughable, the fact is he is a huge man, and over sized giants have always been a novelty to the industry. As for Batista, we all know Vince's history and love affair with muscle bound steroid monsters.
And please don't contend that Randy has developed the ring skills to carry the company. Beyond his drop kick, side neck breaker, and RKO (which while far from being as versatile as DDP's diamond cutter, is developing), his matches
are snooze fests containing way too many restholds. Frankly, he should probably quit smoking so he can carry himself in the ring at a high pace for longer than several minutes before resorting to a headlock.
So, what has Randy Orton to deserve this opportunity? I could easily throw his issues in the locker room and hotel destruction into the equation, but that's too easy. The fact is, he's nothing more than an arrogant, good looking guy with 3 moves that are passable on television. Say what you want about Cena, but he at least gets a crowd into his matches. While he might not be a technician, his promos deliver. In that aspect, he reminds of Hulk Hogan in the 1980's. I'm sure if it were 1989-1991, these posts would be tearing Hogan's reign apart. But, the fact is, Hulk Hogan brought wrestling to new audiences and a surge in popularity. If he hadn't been around, chances are a fair amount of us reading and writing these posts would have never come around to wrestling. Wrestling needs men Cena and Hogan to reach the masses, as opposed to the hard core wrestling audience. Orton's promo skills and matches will never let him get close to this level.
As for HHH endorsing Orton's reign, you think he's pushing it because he legitmately feels Randy Orton is a top tier wrestler and superstar? Of course not! He wants a heel he can take the title off of. Considering the WWE's lack of depth in decent wrestlers (nevermind main eventers), they have little choice but to put it on someone who, quite frankly, has half the skills of the champions of yesteryear. Personally, if HHH desperately wants to stroke his ego with a face run as champion, it wouldn't be a bad idea to turn Cena heel. Or just to keep the belt on Cena till they're ready to give it to Kennedy.
Face it, if Orton wins the title, he'll hold it for several months tops, and a year or so from now, his reign will be as forgettable as his first one. He'll feel justified in his arrogance and continue to coast through his career. I say make him really work for it. Send him to a few acting classes to develop his promo skills, have him wrestle in OVW in his off time to develop a better pace and ring psychology, and give him the time to develop into real champion, as opposed to someone keeping the strap warm while HHH waits to wear it.
As for deserving the title, here's a list of wrestlers... Ted Dibiase, Ricky Steamboat, Junkyard Dog, British Bulldog, Andre The Giant, Scott Hall, Curt Henning, Owen Hart, Greg Valentine, Jimmy Snuka, Jake The Snake (before his issues crippled him)... those are men who deserved a world title. Not Randy Orton !!!
Dude i think Cena needs to stay champ.Cena and Kennedy will make a intresting fued. Cena makes a great Champ but look at other wrestlers at TNA,ECW and Smackdown.I would pay money defenatly to see Cena and Brock Lesnar Rip it especiouly now that Cena has improved with his wrestling skills last time Lesnar and Cena faced off was at Backlash 2003. whow Cena did not even make his Wrestlemania Debute then Cena defenatly sucked then i wished it was Lesnar Vs Chris Benoit.
But i would like to see a drafting soon i know that we had one like 2 months ago but i would love to see Kennedy vs Cena at Unforgiven or Cena vs HHH at survivor series or Batista vs Cena at wrestlemania.
There are many random matches that would be intresting.Hell ill even like to watch Lesnar vs Cena at wrestlemania 24.