Nominate Bands for the WZ Rock Tournament

[Father:_Polley]

outstanding... Van Morrison made the list.

i'd second the proposal to put t-rex on the list as well

 

[Dylanis]

12 nominations to round out the 50's and 60's (they're all very well-known, I think they're all very deserving):

Elvis (I don't listen to him, but you can't deny his impact -17 #1 hits!)
Chuck Berry
James Brown
Johnny Cash
The Band (They have to go in. Greatest American band from this era by far)
Roy Orbison
The Velvet Underground
Ray Charles
Bo Diddley
Little Richard
Marvin Gaye
The Supremes (Not my style, but 12 #1 hits isn't easy.)

BTW - Led Zepplin should be in the 70's bracket, that is where the bulk of their well-known work was. They weren't in the 60's that long (starting in 68 or 69 I believe)

 

[Pickle]

Patti Smith needs to go in the 70's.

 

[strafro]

The Dead Kennedys belong in the 1970s for sure, great sound and some great songs. Not sure if they were left off accidentally or not.

 

[Bentallica]

Well, I'll make some nominations in the 2000's category, mostly because I agree with everyone else on the other decades. Good job guys, especially xfear. Now, on to my list (and I'm using my iPod as a reference):

Queens of the Stone Age
Three Doors Down
Foo Fighters
Shinedown
Alter Bridge
Linkin Park
The White Stripes
The Killers
Buckcherry
System of a Down
Saliva
Green Day (but they could go in the 90's easily)
Daughtry
The Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rise Against
Yellowcard
Seether
My Chemical Romance
HIM
Hinder
The Fray (some of the best mellow rock in a long time, if you ask me)
Weezer
Tenacious D
The All-American Rejects
Maroon 5
Theory of a Deadman

I could go on, but I think I'm done.

 

[Jonny B]

Queens of the Stone Age

Not exactly a massive Band, but if there was space I'd include them.

Three Doors Down

Who? Seriously I think I've heard of them, not exactly one of the biggest bands on the planet.

Foo Fighters

The Foo's are a 90's Band without a doubt.

Shinedown
Alter Bridge

Urgh, seriously do we have to have this sort of stuff in there, it's such generic crap.

Linkin Park

As much as I personally dislike them I have to agree, they have to be in this thing.

The White Stripes

Definitely thats all I've got to say about them.

The Killers

Again, Agreed.

Buckcherry

Not too sure about this one, they are an okay band but I think there is too much competition to actually have them in it.

System of a Down

Hell Yes

Saliva

Again a good band, but again I think there might be too much competition for them to actually get in.

Green Day (but they could go in the 90's easily)

Yeah they have to go in the 90's.

The Red Hot Chili Peppers

See Green Day and The Foo's.

Rise Against

As much as I love this band, they wouldn't get anywhere and probably aren't big enough.

The rest except for MCR I'd probably say no to, even MCR are a bit of a reach.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Ben, you've brought up some great choices (and I agree with you and Jonny that many of them will be 90's instead) but some of the rookie bands like Daughtry and T.O.A.D. (yes, it is funny) don't belong in a tournament to crown the greatest rock band of all time. I am not against letting them in for a discussion peice, knowing full well that they will be decimated by the likes of System of a Down (shoe-in), Tool, Foo Fighters, etc.

BTW, Creed would get in before Alter Bridge. It is sad, because Alter Bridge is the superior band, but Creed had more mainstream hits, and I am going for mainstream here - not obscurity.

I love Saliva. I have seen them 4 times and they have 4 legitimately strong albums out. They will be a "bubble team." As much as I love Breaking Benjamins, I don't see how strong their chances are. Same with Seether.

On a personal note, I despite the White Stripes, but my personal music tastes don't mean any more than any of yours, and they will certainly make it. 3 Doors Down will be in, because they've had strong albums and mega-hits, even if they are annoying. Same with Nickleback and Matchbox 20.

Where does everyone fall on Sugar Ray and Eve 6?

 

[Dylanis]

Ben, you've brought up some great choices (and I agree with you and Jonny that many of them will be 90's instead) but some of the rookie bands like Daughtry and T.O.A.D. (yes, it is funny) don't belong in a tournament to crown the greatest rock band of all time. I am not against letting them in for a discussion peice, knowing full well that they will be decimated by the likes of System of a Down (shoe-in), Tool, Foo Fighters, etc.

BTW, Creed would get in before Alter Bridge. It is sad, because Alter Bridge is the superior band, but Creed had more mainstream hits, and I am going for mainstream here - not obscurity.

I love Saliva. I have seen them 4 times and they have 4 legitimately strong albums out. They will be a "bubble team." As much as I love Breaking Benjamins, I don't see how strong their chances are. Same with Seether.

On a personal note, I despite the White Stripes, but my personal music tastes don't mean any more than any of yours, and they will certainly make it. 3 Doors Down will be in, because they've had strong albums and mega-hits, even if they are annoying. Same with Nickleback and Matchbox 20.

Where does everyone fall on Sugar Ray and Eve 6?

I'd only say to put them in if the bracket is 64 - they were never that good. Neither had a top 5 single (even though that song "Fly" was very catchy). I'd put Sugar Ray in over Eve 6.

I'd just like to push a nomination for Ben Folds/Ben Folds Five. He has made a wealth of really amazing music over the last 10 years.

 

[Bentallica]

Ben, you've brought up some great choices (and I agree with you and Jonny that many of them will be 90's instead) but some of the rookie bands like Daughtry and T.O.A.D. (yes, it is funny) don't belong in a tournament to crown the greatest rock band of all time. I am not against letting them in for a discussion peice, knowing full well that they will be decimated by the likes of System of a Down (shoe-in), Tool, Foo Fighters, etc.

BTW, Creed would get in before Alter Bridge. It is sad, because Alter Bridge is the superior band, but Creed had more mainstream hits, and I am going for mainstream here - not obscurity.

I love Saliva. I have seen them 4 times and they have 4 legitimately strong albums out. They will be a "bubble team." As much as I love Breaking Benjamins, I don't see how strong their chances are. Same with Seether.

On a personal note, I despite the White Stripes, but my personal music tastes don't mean any more than any of yours, and they will certainly make it. 3 Doors Down will be in, because they've had strong albums and mega-hits, even if they are annoying. Same with Nickleback and Matchbox 20.

Where does everyone fall on Sugar Ray and Eve 6?

Seems like we're on the same page here. I definately think Saliva should be in there, though. Songs like Superstar, Ladies and Gentleman, and Click Click Boom have been used during main stream events and in film, and they do have a solid fanbase.

I kinda just through some personal favorites in there, like Daughtry, the Stripes, and others. They are more mellow rock, and they really haven't done enough to be involved, I can admit.

I'm a strong believer in Queens of the Stone Age, though. They have a strong following, and are very talented. For them not to be included would be a shame.

To Jonny: How can you think Alter Bridge and Shinedown are "modern crap"? To me, modern crap is stuff like Fall Out Boy, Boys Like Girls, and other "pop rock" bands. Alter Bridge (to me) is the best of Creed (everything but Scott Stapp) and amplifies it. Sure, their new album sounds much different than their first, but thats because the first was all supposed to be Creed songs. Shinedown is just a very good band, plain and simple.

And MCR is just a personal choice, but I wouldn't be let down if their not in. They're good, but might not be good enough.

 

[Dylanis]

Seems like we're on the same page here. I definately think Saliva should be in there, though. Songs like Superstar, Ladies and Gentleman, and Click Click Boom have been used during main stream events and in film, and they do have a solid fanbase.

I kinda just through some personal favorites in there, like Daughtry, the Stripes, and others. They are more mellow rock, and they really haven't done enough to be involved, I can admit.

I'm a strong believer in Queens of the Stone Age, though. They have a strong following, and are very talented. For them not to be included would be a shame.

To Jonny: How can you think Alter Bridge and Shinedown are "modern crap"? To me, modern crap is stuff like Fall Out Boy, Boys Like Girls, and other "pop rock" bands. Alter Bridge (to me) is the best of Creed (everything but Scott Stapp) and amplifies it. Sure, their new album sounds much different than their first, but thats because the first was all supposed to be Creed songs. Shinedown is just a very good band, plain and simple.

And MCR is just a personal choice, but I wouldn't be let down if their not in. They're good, but might not be good enough.

The Stripes are mellow? They're live shows are the opposite - and they are awesome.

 

[Bentallica]

Maybe it's just me, but I think some of their stuff is more "mellow" to other bands I listen. I think I need a long listening session to change my mind...*turns on iPod*

 

[justinsayne]

Ben, you've brought up some great choices (and I agree with you and Jonny that many of them will be 90's instead) but some of the rookie bands like Daughtry and T.O.A.D. (yes, it is funny) don't belong in a tournament to crown the greatest rock band of all time. I am not against letting them in for a discussion peice, knowing full well that they will be decimated by the likes of System of a Down (shoe-in), Tool, Foo Fighters, etc.

BTW, Creed would get in before Alter Bridge. It is sad, because Alter Bridge is the superior band, but Creed had more mainstream hits, and I am going for mainstream here - not obscurity.

I love Saliva. I have seen them 4 times and they have 4 legitimately strong albums out. They will be a "bubble team." As much as I love Breaking Benjamins, I don't see how strong their chances are. Same with Seether.

On a personal note, I despite the White Stripes, but my personal music tastes don't mean any more than any of yours, and they will certainly make it. 3 Doors Down will be in, because they've had strong albums and mega-hits, even if they are annoying. Same with Nickleback and Matchbox 20.

Where does everyone fall on Sugar Ray and Eve 6?

Aren't Breaking Benjamin and Seether bot in the KROQ bracket battle?, I thought all the bands in the bracket battle were going to automatically be in this thing unless I was mistaken

as for Sugar Ray and Eve 6, I dislike both bands personally, Sugar Ray I could see maybe getting in cause they've had their share of mainstream hits, but I've always thought of Eve 6 as a one hit wonder, of course that may also be due to the fact that my local station doesn't play anything but one song by them, of course I also haven't listen to the radio in roughly 5 years either

 

[Dylanis]

Maybe it's just me, but I think some of their stuff is more "mellow" to other bands I listen. I think I need a long listening session to change my mind...*turns on iPod*

There are portions of albums (e.g. 3rd quarter of Elephant) and some albums (Get Behind Me Satan) that are pretty mellow. The live shows are great though. Doesn't hold a candle to the intensity of a Slipknot-type show though. That's not really me deal though, so yeah. On the large scheme of things they're not really on either side. They're no Jack Johnson/Shins, but they're no Slipknot.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

Aren't Breaking Benjamin and Seether bot in the KROQ bracket battle?, I thought all the bands in the bracket battle were going to automatically be in this thing unless I was mistaken

Seether is, Breaking Banjamins is not. I was shocked Seether made their tournament, but remember, the 2000's got their own bracket in the K-Rock version, ours combines the 90's and 00's.

 

[X]

Forgive me if they have already been mentioned, but the 70s/80s era would not be complete without The Specials. The godfathers of all modern ska, they were f'n HUGE in England when they first came out. One of the best bands of all time, and if you're British you probably already knew that. You brits love The Specials.

So yeah, the Specials should be in this ASAP. I'd say put 'em in the 80s bracket.

Oh and the English Beat of course too! Another huge band in the 80s, and another one of the godfathers of ska.

 

[Bentallica]

There are portions of albums (e.g. 3rd quarter of Elephant) and some albums (Get Behind Me Satan) that are pretty mellow. The live shows are great though. Doesn't hold a candle to the intensity of a Slipknot-type show though. That's not really me deal though, so yeah. On the large scheme of things they're not really on either side. They're no Jack Johnson/Shins, but they're no Slipknot.

I would love to see the Stripes live. They do seem like a great live band though. I saw them play Denial Twist and I believe Blue Orchid live on The Daily Show once, and it was quite a sight.

There are a few bands I would love to see live, which would include: Shinedown, 3 Doors Down, the aformentioned Stripes, Saliva, Alter Bridge, LP, and MCR. They all seem like great live bands, but you can never be too sure.

I've played live in front of a thousand or so people, and I've got to tell you, it's quite the adrenaline rush. You've got to keep your nerves, or you'll never last. But when you get rid of the butterflies, it's actually a boat load of fun.

 

[strafro]

I would love to see the Stripes live. They do seem like a great live band though. I saw them play Denial Twist and I believe Blue Orchid live on The Daily Show once, and it was quite a sight.

There are a few bands I would love to see live, which would include: Shinedown, 3 Doors Down, the aformentioned Stripes, Saliva, Alter Bridge, LP, and MCR. They all seem like great live bands, but you can never be too sure.

I've played live in front of a thousand or so people, and I've got to tell you, it's quite the adrenaline rush. You've got to keep your nerves, or you'll never last. But when you get rid of the butterflies, it's actually a boat load of fun.

I have seen 3 Doors Down live twice, they are pretty good, I'd also love to see Saliva live, they seem like they'd be pretty sweet. But the best band I have seen live in my life is definitely the Foo Fighters concert I went to about a month ago. Dave Grohl is an awesome performer, he has an incredible voice and I believe he really understands what truly quality music is about. I will be pulling very hard for the Foo Fighters making a deep run in the tournament. And for whoever said the Foo would be 90s, the 2 regions are combined, but they definitely have had a lot more mainstream success in the 2000s, but were formed in 1995.

 

[Dylanis]

I have seen 3 Doors Down live twice, they are pretty good, I'd also love to see Saliva live, they seem like they'd be pretty sweet. But the best band I have seen live in my life is definitely the Foo Fighters concert I went to about a month ago. Dave Grohl is an awesome performer, he has an incredible voice and I believe he really understands what truly quality music is about. I will be pulling very hard for the Foo Fighters making a deep run in the tournament. And for whoever said the Foo would be 90s, the 2 regions are combined, but they definitely have had a lot more mainstream success in the 2000s, but were formed in 1995.

Foo Fighters are a great live band. Their tour with Weezer was basically a dream tour for me because they're two of my favorite bands. Did anybody catch them on their acoustic run? That was great.

Both bands deserve to make deep runs in the tournament, but I think Nirvana ends up taking the entire region.

 

[strafro]

Foo Fighters > Nirvana IMO I was never a big Nirvana fan and just always think that they are overrated due to Kurt Cobain's death. Cobain was a great writer, but I think that Dave Grohl is a better performer/artist. Plus, Grohl was in Nirvana, some don't remember that, I will be sticking with this the whole time!!! I am officially creating the OFFICIAL FOO FIGHTERS FAN HEADQUARTERS!!!

 

[justinsayne]

Foo Fighters > Nirvana IMO I was never a big Nirvana fan and just always think that they are overrated due to Kurt Cobain's death. Cobain was a great writer, but I think that Dave Grohl is a better performer/artist. Plus, Grohl was in Nirvana, some don't remember that, I will be sticking with this the whole time!!! I am officially creating the OFFICIAL FOO FIGHTERS FAN HEADQUARTERS!!!

You should go the the Music Asylum, Foo Fighters are this weeks band, they were voted in, and took me a good amount of time to put it together, especially when it came to putting together all the videos (youtube didn't work for shit yesterday)

BTW I agree Nirvana is highly overrated, people need to realize that they wern't the only band to come out when they did, Pearl Jam, AIC, & Soundgarden were all around then too, Nirvana was just in the right spot at the right time, had it not been them, it would have been one of the other four...probably Pearl Jam, they were the most talented of the four overall IMO

 

[Dylanis]

Foo Fighters > Nirvana IMO I was never a big Nirvana fan and just always think that they are overrated due to Kurt Cobain's death. Cobain was a great writer, but I think that Dave Grohl is a better performer/artist. Plus, Grohl was in Nirvana, some don't remember that, I will be sticking with this the whole time!!! I am officially creating the OFFICIAL FOO FIGHTERS FAN HEADQUARTERS!!!

I'm personally more of a Foo fan, but lemme just go through this. Answering to the Grohl part:

1) Grohl joined the band mid-way into their history and his impact on the band was not much. Although at one short time he did live with Cobain (Grohl's whole song Friend of a Friend on IYH disc 2) - he did not have much of an effect on the actual songwriting or on Cobain entirely. Kurt didn't even like him that much according to Dave - Kurt only gave him to "proverbial thumbs up" ever -- once after his audition, and once after unplugged.

2) Just because Dave was in that band doesn't mean that Nirvana is worse than his own band. That sort of just makes Nirvana a better band, because he wasn't even the front man. It just makes Nirvana seem more like a supergroup

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Why vote for Nirvana to take the 90's?

1) They changed the course of music
Vernon Reid states "Cobain changed the course of where the music went. There are certain people where you can see the axis of musical history twisting on them: Hendrix was pivotal, Prince was pivotal, Cobain was pivotal." They basically created a new genre and changed rock music entirely. Anything music in the 90's had a whiff of Nirvana whenever you'd smell it.

2) Their music was really really good.
It was. Can't be denied. Cobain's voice could tell a story. Sift through all old demos and whatnot - it's all good.

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I'm really going to be rooting for Weezer - but Foo and Nirvana should kick ass.

 

[Bentallica]

I love the Foo's, probably the best modern rock group of today, and definately high on the all-time list, IMO. But since they need some support, I'm going to officialy endorse Saliva and Queens of the Stone Age in the tourny.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

50's and 60's First Round Matches

The Beatles vs T-Rex
The Beach Boys vs Janis Joplin
Van Morrison vs Chuck Berry
Chubby Checker vs Creedence Clearwater Revival

The Doors vs The Mama's and the Papa's
Elvis Presley vs The Rascals
Cream vs The Grateful Dead
The Who vs Roy Orbison

Led Zeppelin vs Joe Cocker
The Yardbirds vs James Brown
Simon & Garfunkel vs Buddy Holly
The Kinks vs The Monkees

Bob Dylan vs Marvin Gaye
Ray Charles vs The Moody Blues
Sly & The Family Stone vs The Animals
The Rolling Stones vs Jefferson Airplane

Bubble bands who missed- The Everly Brothers, The Commodores​

 

[Pickle]

I'm not looking forward to Beatles vs Beach Boys in round 2. That will tear my heart in two and voting for one over the other could potentially kill me.

 

[Shadowmancer]

I still think it should be based on when the most success came not in What decade they started. If going on that that would mean Fleetwood Mac would be in this section. This means that The Moody Blues and Zepplin should be in the 70's.