**Merged** Walkout, No Confidence & All Conspiracy Discussion (KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!!)

[mral82]

This has got to be 1 of the most intriguing stories in the WWE in quite some time. And to the OP the most storyline in the WWE was the Hardyz feud back in 2009 or the whole KaiEnTai-Val Venis "I Choppee Choppee Your PeePee" 1 back in the Attitude Era. Will there be WWE NXT or Smackdown! this Friday or What? And to the People saying the heels are the only ones acting like *****es wasn't watchin the Face of SD! Randy Orton was they cause he no sold Mark Henry last night then the same w/ Drew McIntyre 2night and Trips should fine, fire, or suspend Orton for his actions. If I was a referee or Announcer and the Superstars put their hands on me I would've did the same thing by joining in on the Walkout. Remember guys and gals "SAFETY 1ST" OVER ANYTHING!!!!!

 

[ellax]

I hope to christ that the OP was trolling...... cuz, if he was it worked, and if not, there are currently about 1,200 people reading this thread thinking about what a huge dumbass he is.

We all know that this is a power struggle story line. So, no offense to TNA/Impact... but I hope Russo and the boys have their pens and paper handy, because WWE has been fucking killing it lately. So, yeh, maybe "match quality" hasn't been what a lot of people would like it to be, but, there has been some damn good matches going on, and WWE has their whole roster involved right now. Almost any gripe that I have read on these forums since I've joined, WWE has been working to answer and entertain, and if you don't see that.... I just don't know what you are looking for.

This should easily win "troll" thread of the year.

Oh, just to make sure I'm on topic... I am digging this story line and think the end segment of tonight's RAW was perfect.

The ending wasn't what I was expecting honest.. no offense.. just my opinion.. I was expecting something similar to what happened when the Immortals took over TNA kinda of scenario.. with a few faces sticking to Triple H..

But.. the ending kinda shocked me.. and the sad part.. the main faces of the companies wasn't even around..

 

[j2early]

no big faces were anywhere near the ring...cena, orton, sheamus, punk, kelly kelly and eve torres, i know, shut up lol)...dibiase, was mason ryan there? i gotta say i was surprised at kofi and bourne though but whatever...its interesting people, just enjoy the show...wrestling has evolved, just like the rest of the world...we are in the "reality era", and stuff like this is gunna happen...i mean i loved old school wrestling, and im really starting to love this also...just let them do what they gotta do and enjoy...thats the problem with the internet, too many opinions lol...just because you feel a certain way dont make it right...

ignorant storyline? you must be an old school fan to feel that strongly about it...but the reality is those times are gone, never to come back...so either evolve with it or move on and watch something else...

 

[PowerHouse]

This is probably one of the best storylines WWE has done in a long time. Cena,Punk,Sheamus and Mason Ryan were not at ringside where we they?? So all the talent and workers at ringside walked out on HHH. Jonny Ace did as well. Everyone knows this all comes back to Laurenitis. Which will bring back Nash,R Truth and Miz and maybe others we dont know about yet. There is nothing ignorant about the storyline and well as fun as it was to watch the NWA back in the 70's it's not the 70's anymore there is no more Crocket memorial cup. There is no more Bill Watts UWF no AWA. This is 2011 and your choice is WWE or TNA. Right now the WWE is blowing TNA out of the water with everything they do.

Think about it. Mark Henry walked...why??? Cause HHH fined him 250,000 dollars for putting Lawler thru a table. Henry has been the most dangerous single talent on the entire roster. Show,Kane,Kalhi and anyone who gets in his way gets decimated. Mark Henry isn't in any kind of danger due to HHH. It is very interesting cause of all the Superstars only Cena,Punk,Del Rio,Kofi and Evan Borne have been attacked by R truth and Miz. There is alot going on behind the scenes with Laurenitis and I am pretty excited to see where it all goes.

 

[trips22]

Kizzani, I don't think realoldsk00lfan is talking about a gimmick storyline as which you are referring to but a rather a show story line which I agree is pretty bad. I agree with realoldskoolfan making the statement about new wrestling fans being force fed this crap and supporting it. I too wonder where in the world did wrestling go? I used to love professional wrestling but this product is a far cry from the 80's and 90's of wrestling and it's just getting worse. When it comes to television shows wrestling is a dinosaur and if they don't start making some changes like perhaps going to the tried and true method of actual wrestling and making a story out of that it too may go the way of the dinosaur. I looked at the ratings for Hell in A Cell and was shocked that so many people rated it 3 stars and above! I don't like that kind of ppv story telling I like that match that some wrestlers can make that has match of the year written all over it and for it to be remembered that way not by two dudes that got fired getting locked in the cell beating down the top 3 contenders for the belt.
That actually leads me to the other problem with this crappy product and that is why in the world is the belt meaningless these days? At this point the belt could actually be given to anyone and it wouldn't matter one bit as it doesn't stand for much at the moment. We all know it's fake and all but dang give us a good plot line to follow. I for one can't get behind this crap at all. I think the WWE will reap a huge FAIL out of this one. My only other question is I wonder how the wrestlers get behind this stuff? If I have a hard time buying into it how in the world can they buy in and give their all? Boring, unrealistic, and just plain terrible. Now that I write it kind of reminds me of a WWE movie.

 

[PrinceMarvel]

What if having Jerry walk out was part of a bigger plan set up by HHH to draw out whoever has been undermining HHH? With no one seemingly feeling confident in HHH, it would be the right time for him to reveal himself, then HHH and Jerry can both come out and reveal their plan.
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Also, I also like this story

 

[JeffroBroski]

thats the way they are using the storyline everybody is "scared for their safety" like its no control backstage and everything is running wild without order they are trying to make it seem more than a storyline but a true problem thats going on with the WWE and i like every second of it as of now

 

[Razakel]

it's a horrible storyline, the OP is 100 % correct on this.
The ENTIRE roster is made to look like a bunch of idiots and everybody gets booed but guess who looks like a million bucks at the end of the show?

yeah you guessed it...good ol' Hunter gets the cheers and respect of the crowd. What started out as a hot angle with CM punk being the voice of the voiceless has turned into the entire WWE roster focusing on triple H's job as a COO. and this half ass WWE outsiders gimmic with the Miz and R Truth attacking people with baseball bats....that's also terrible.
I'm done with this crap I'll go watch my "spot monkeys" and bland "can't cut a promo to save their lives" vanilla midgets with their crap production values over at ROH.
at least when i watch their show i don't feel ashamed every 5 minutes like with the WWE's show...

I'm done with giving WWE endless chances to fix what starts out as good storylines and ends up turning to pure garbage...this is like the Nexus angle all over again.

 

[Yesiamaduck]

I'm really not sure ignorant is the right word to explain it, the only ignorant part was beths promo on behalf of the divas (we're just girls) that shattered the promo for a bit in a true facepalm moment.

This is just 'The Union' on a bigger scale, and I see nothing wrong with it, I thought the ending was unexpected and has once again left the show on a huge cliffhanger.

Smackdown will continue as normal as they made clear it's not that HHH is COO that's the problem it's that he's running Raw.

Also, this is and has been up to date a brilliant build of Survivor Series (which it is), I know it was a shit hot angle with Punk but that angle was loosing a lot of steam fast and I am glad they've evolved it beyond CM Punk. I like these stories where everyone's involved and it's taking a few interesting turns all the way so I really don't see the problem with it. I think if this involved Vince and didn't start off as the Punk angle a lot more people will be singing it's praises but I just get the feeling that some smarks get too attached to certain ideas of who SHOULD be pushed and who shouldn't be and blah blah Cena 5 moves of doom and Orton to actually sit back and just absorb whats going on. Stop analysing the product so much, and you aren't always right, yes if you don't enjoy the angle/tv then fine but a lot of people seem to be analysing it as opposed to watching it so they can just out Smark each other.

 

[Azane]

When smarks ignore kayfabe being used in kayfabe storyline, it doesn't make sense.

When you just relax and watch it without judging, it's interesting.

Stop trying to make wrestling make sense, it just ends up in headaches or hurt ego.

 

[mrhexum]

The ending wasn't what I was expecting honest.. no offense.. just my opinion.. I was expecting something similar to what happened when the Immortals took over TNA kinda of scenario.. with a few faces sticking to Triple H..

But.. the ending kinda shocked me.. and the sad part.. the main faces of the companies wasn't even around..

This, ok, so we had HHH out there, but no Cena, no Punk, and no Orton. I get that you were kinda expecting to see some faces stick around, honestly, I did too. I was waiting and waiting for that "big" moment where we got one of those 3 or a surprise return, and when it didn't happen, confusion turned into kudos for me.

It was an intriguing segment without the 3 biggest superstars. It was a nice, subtle move to leave them out. Not only do I want to see what happens next week regardless, but, now, I want to see what those 3 have to say. Bottom line, WWE is making me wanna watch every week to see what's gonna happen. Isn't that the fucking goal?

Allow me to be the forums broken record when I say... For the love of fuck, let the story line play out before you shit all over it.

 

[a7xfan93]

with the ending of raw, i got to thinking about the very near future. next week, what happens? do we get the intro, followed by pyros, and then magically we have the camera crew and commentators saying "welcome to monday night raw supershow"? or do we start with triple h in the ring with one camera focused on him. i think this is the beginning of the return of VKM. what are your thoughts?

 

[WWEIsLife2]

You know some Fans today just make me sick with the whining & bitching that goes on. You want everything now and don't even want to wait to see how something plays out. Wow you watched some Matches from the 70's and think your an all knowing Fan,big deal you want a medal or something? You really want your intelligence insulted? Go watch TNA for a few weeks.

This Storyline has been played out brilliantly and its going somewhere obviously. WWE has been on fire once again since this all started and I am loving it.

 

[The Duke]

When smarks ignore kayfabe being used in kayfabe storyline, it doesn't make sense.

When you just relax and watch it without judging, it's interesting.

Holy shit someone said something intelligent! Don't be a smark. It's a storyline. Ignorant? No. Learn what ignorant means. Did it kill it's momentum tonight? Yes, yes it did. The show should have ended with Vincent Kennedy McMahons music hitting and him strutting out onto the stage. The basis is that it's an unsafe working environment. That's why they walked out tonight. Ignorant? No. Ironic? Yes. As HHH said the Nexus made that shit SO much more hostile than Miz and R Truth. Is this smart, no. Is it interesting, yes. So just enjoy it and DON'T OVER ANALYZE IT!!

 

[keehlnate]

I have absolutely no idea on how they will continue on this storyline. I mean, the show is all messed up. The whole locker room has walked out on Triple H. But I think Johnny Ace would step up and take control on the show for a while. I don't see Vince McMahon and Stephanie McMahon returning soon. I really don't know. Well at least I'm happy that WWE is not that predictable anymore.

 

[The Duke]

Well...this is weird because the C.O.O. is in charge of the WWE, not just Raw. So that being said, what happens on SmackDown? Are we business as usual and the WWE just pretends that HHH is the Raw GM? I think everyone will be there but someone will address the situation (Johnny Ace) and then we'll go from there. But yeah, it's the return of VKM obvs.

 

[whatjusthappened]

it's a horrible storyline, the OP is 100 % correct on this.
The ENTIRE roster is made to look like a bunch of idiots and everybody gets booed but guess who looks like a million bucks at the end of the show?

yeah you guessed it...good ol' Hunter gets the cheers and respect of the crowd. What started out as a hot angle with CM punk being the voice of the voiceless has turned into the entire WWE roster focusing on triple H's job as a COO. and this half ass WWE outsiders gimmic with the Miz and R Truth attacking people with baseball bats....that's also terrible.
I'm done with this crap I'll go watch my "spot monkeys" and bland "can't cut a promo to save their lives" vanilla midgets with their crap production values over at ROH.
at least when i watch their show i don't feel ashamed every 5 minutes like with the WWE's show...

I'm done with giving WWE endless chances to fix what starts out as good storylines and ends up turning to pure garbage...this is like the Nexus angle all over again.

Endless chances my ass...I bet that's the same thing you said about (insert storyline you enjoyed in the beginning, but cried midway through because it wasn't turning out the way you wanted it to here)

Benjamins say you'll tune in next week, and the week after that, and after that to see changes and updates on said storyline... and if not, you'll be back to watching WWE programming in less than a year's time.

You and all the other pansies complaining, for f**k sakes just watch and enjoy the damn show for what it is because we all know even if you complain you're just going to end up watching it to see what happens anyways.

YOU ARE INTRIGUED and HOOKED. That's how much the storylines and on a bigger aspect, the WWE has captured your life.

 

[ellax]

This, ok, so we had HHH out there, but no Cena, no Punk, and no Orton. I get that you were kinda expecting to see some faces stick around, honestly, I did too. I was waiting and waiting for that "big" moment where we got one of those 3 or a surprise return, and when it didn't happen, confusion turned into kudos for me.

It was an intriguing segment without the 3 biggest superstars. It was a nice, subtle move to leave them out. Not only do I want to see what happens next week regardless, but, now, I want to see what those 3 have to say. Bottom line, WWE is making me wanna watch every week to see what's gonna happen. Isn't that the fucking goal?

Allow me to be the forums broken record when I say... For the love of fuck, let the story line play out before you shit all over it.

I guess my mind was really thinking about the Immortal scene in TNA when I was watching that.. which I gotta to admit.. it was way too similar.. and of course.. the old NWO part..

 

[PowerHouse]

I dont see anything that would make this storyline not smart... The storyline is great WWE has been its best the last 3 or 4 months. I am intrigued to see where this whole thing goes.

 

[Dynamitekid2012]

I agree with the original post. It defeats the entire purpose of wrestling in general. This would be fine if this was ROH and there was a code of honor still, as then it would make sense why so many guys have a complaint about interference, but in the WWE where we have seen these things almost weekly, it just seems ridiculous to me. However, I do think HHH did a goodjob of trying to dismiss it and I liked the ending of Raw actually. My issue is that I'm just having a hard time suspending my disbelief for the entire concept of the storyline.

 

[VinnieSunshine]

When smarks ignore kayfabe being used in kayfabe storyline, it doesn't make sense.

When you just relax and watch it without judging, it's interesting.

Stop trying to make wrestling make sense, it just ends up in headaches or hurt ego.

THANK YOU! Ive been saying this for awhile now. Hell Ive said it like this...
wrestling should be like a movie, we want to believe it could happen, but in reality it really cant. In an action movie, the hero never gets hit by the hundreds of flying bullets that come his way, yet he somehow finds a way to take time and shoot the bad guys that dont matter.

Last night at HITC when Miz and Truth were attacking...WHY DIDN"T THE ROSTER THAT WAS OUT THERE JUST LIFT THE SIDE OF THE CELL INSTEAD OF SHAKING IT LIKE COMPLETE MONKEYS FROM WIZARD OF OZ (credit Mike Killam for that)

Suspend your imagination for 2 hours, sit back, and enjoy the product. If you dont like it there is always Monday Night Football or TONS of dramas and comedies on OTHER networks!

 

[Yesiamaduck]

When smarks ignore kayfabe being used in kayfabe storyline, it doesn't make sense.

When you just relax and watch it without judging, it's interesting.

Stop trying to make wrestling make sense, it just ends up in headaches or hurt ego.

I remember when people were complaining that the WWE was too predictable, I mean my God up until around June this year (with the exception of Kane beating Undertaker in a feud) it was very predictable.

Then THAT promo happened and ever since then the WWE has been for the most part been unpredictable, but not just for the sake of it.

Think of the story arch here people it's totally logical but not straight forward and by no means has it been predictable it's been a ride with many turns and detours and sub stories all within one main story.

 

[Axel-Stryder1211]

Am I the only one who is intrigued by this i mean what more can you ask for you wanted an interesting storyline that wasnt predictable and has already been used to say this is ignorant is ignorant in itself the attitude era is over and so is old school wrestling showing the politics backstage.. is very compelling imo this is the first time in a long time where im actually watering at the mouth for next weeks episode

Like Really im with you Also,People here complain about Creatives and how they barely give good storylines,and when they do we have a Guy here Calling it Ignorant,Like Really? x6 (miz Voice)

 

[King of the Words]

I think this story line still needs more time to develop properly. More than likely, John Laurinitis will take over now as C.O.O., with Vince pulling his strings. By time Survivor Series
I think we will have a full out battle between Vince and Triple H. over who is in control. A giant Survivor Series Elimination style match with Game supporters Vs. Vince supporters. Basically Top good guys againts top bad guys, with Control over the WWE on the line in the 25th annual Survivor Series, at M.S.G. I think this story line will turn out pretty good!

 

[Razordude1717]

Yeah I agree with the previous two posts. There is absolutely no problem with the current storyline, and whatever predictions can be made regarding the directions will be totally speculative without any base.

I only have one problem related to what happened at RAW. People who were all for HHH throughout and had no problem whatsoever with whatever is happening suddenly gave up on him? I mean c'mon! Lawler? JR? Ryder?!!! I mean what is the point of emphasizing it so much, we get it!