*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread

[Nicole13Edge/HardyFan]

I think that the Nexus needs to end in October because I'm tired of seeing them beat up on Cena every week. No not really thats not the reason I want it to end I am a Cena fan but I don't want the Nexus to end just because they are beating up on him.

To me its gotten stale and now that Skip is injured thats one less member. At first they were awesome then they got old just like a lot of things in the WWE. I think that they should do something different with the Nexus.

 

[sTyLnK]

It's a strong rumor so you can be sure that the WWE is well aware of it and hopefully will throw us a curve ball.

 

[merk1]

to tell the truth, the only skill that comes out of the nexus group is Gabriel, Skip, Young, and....ehhh Barret i guess. his match with Jericho wasnt great but maybe he was having an off night. Id say end it because we've already seen what they can do. they should have an implosion in the group, that would be awesome.

 

[realdealasshole]

If Nexus is not dead by at least November I think we will quickly begin to see how bland they can become and all that they have accomplished this summer and in this next month or two would go to waste. Nexus was good because people weren't exactly sure what they were capable of. They were good because we did not know who they were capable of taking out, what matches they were capable of winning, what they would look like in one-on-one matches, etc. After summerslam, all those questions were answered. It was answered that they can't compete with the big boys. They tried to fix that the next night on Raw, but they couldn't. All those wins were were cheap wins and did nothing to make up for the fact that at the pay-per-view, they couldn't get the job done.

From this point on, unless by some INCREDIBLE miracle Wade Barrett wins the title in the fatal four way, Nexus is dead. Since that won't happen, Nexus is dead. But....they had a great run and I enjoyed them all summer.

 

[Gregor_Samsa]

Am I the only person who thinks that Otunga is rubbish on the mic? He's got charisma, sure, but everything he says sounds incredibly forced, like a kid who forgot his lines in a high school production of Annie.

I was thinking this too. I honestly don't understand what some people on the message boards are talking about by saying this guy has great mic skills and can cut a great promo. He sounds feminine. He is the reverse Kaval. He should have a voice like Kaval and Kaval should sound pubescent. I don't think Darren Young was the weakest link of Nexus. It was Otunga.

 

[LigerBomb]

The Nexus angle started June 7th. If it lasts until the end of October/early November that's roughly 5 months. While it doesn't sound like much, 5 months of a stable full of virtual unknowns mixing it up with the upper echelons of WWE's RAW brand is actually quite monumental.
If the October rumors are to be believed I can't say that it's ending too soon at all. If anything on paper these guys shouldn't have posed any real threat to WWE's main-eventers and should have subsequently been squashed in a 1–2 month angle. That this will make it to October—especially in a day and age of minuscule viewer attention spans—is actually nothing to sneeze at.
The more interesting question then, should be: Can WWE continue to carry The Nexus Invasion angle until October in any fashion that doesn't end in The Nexus limping along the finish-line like a pack of lame ducks and then simply fading away? I hope the answer to that is a strong 'yes'.
Too many people feel that Nexus should have won at SS, and instead due to their defeat believe the angle no longer has any legs. I don't agree. With Cena—being the only member of former Champion/WWE HoF and Legend-rich team WWE—barely getting the win, what other wise would have been the whole "war" had Nexus won merely became a smaller "battle". It showed that despite a seemingly enormous mismatch of talent and accomplishment The Nexus could hang with some of WWE's biggest names, and that only via their sheer inexperience were The Nexus able to be temporarily stopped (but I digress).
Anyway, I'd like this angle to end strong and I still believe that's a possibility. What I definitely don't want to see is the group implode or have members simply leave or be kicked-out until we are left with one or two members who simply decided to "go their own way". I'd much prefer a strong, impactful finish rather than a slow, sputtering fade-out that makes the group look impotent and ineffectual. So, to answer the OP, and to return this back to topic, an October end is not too early an end to The Nexus angle. In anything how it ends is much more important than when it ends. I worry more about persevering or reestablishing—depending on how you feel about SS and it's resulting fallout—angle quality, rather than angle duration.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I'd be amazed if they don't last through Survivor Series, why split a ready made team (unless they have Nexus Heels {Barrett, Otunga, Tarver, plus 1} Versus Nexus Faces {DBD, Young, plus 2}).

How long they'll last after that will probably be contingent on two factors - 1) Should Barrett win the WWe Title, they'll sick together as enforcers and possibly take the Tag and US Belts as well. This would give their stable legendary status. 2) Merchandise - should there be a sudden drop in interest in Nexus-wear, I can see their push getting dropped quicker than a Zack Ryder title match.

 

[Bill Lesnar]

Bill Lesnar belives the Nexus angle fell apart at Summerslam. Bill Lesnar feels that by having the nexus lose, it made them look weak and took the heat off them. Bill Lesnar knows that had the nexus won at Summerslam, they would have looked much stronger for beating Raws best. Team wwe should have won at survivor series in Bill Lesnars opionion as that ppv should end the fued due to its prestige. Bill Lesnar knows that without skip they are even weaker as Skip was the intense tough guy of the group

 

[Bill Lesnar]

Bill Lesnar is sorry to hear this news. Bill Lesnar feels the Nexus will disband as Skip was the brutal inforcer with a believable role, now that he is gone outside of Barret the rest of the nexus is not intense enough to cover his role. Bill Lesnar knows that their cannot be a replacemnt as nxt season 2 members are all differnt in styles to skip. Titus Oniell has the best chance as he is the most physically imposing.

Bill Lesnar wishes Skip all the best for the future

 

[LongLiveTheStreak]

Bill Lesnar belives the Nexus angle fell apart at Summerslam. Bill Lesnar feels that by having the nexus lose, it made them look weak and took the heat off them. Bill Lesnar knows that had the nexus won at Summerslam, they would have looked much stronger for beating Raws best. Team wwe should have won at survivor series in Bill Lesnars opionion as that ppv should end the fued due to its prestige. Bill Lesnar knows that without skip they are even weaker as Skip was the intense tough guy of the group

Bill Lesnar is both right and wrong.

He is wrong because had Nexus won at SummerSlam and went on to lose to Team WWE at Survivor Series, that would have been pretty much copying the "WCW/ECW Invasion" Algle. Remember, The Alliance beat The WWF at WWF Invasion and went on to lose the "Winner take All" for control of WWF at Survivor Series. That would have made The Nexus look to similar to The Alliance.

Bill Lesnar is right because seeing as how Nexus is losing members and so far not replacing them, they are getting weaker. How could they possibly replace Skip Sheffield? And what if another one gets injured? That would destroy them.

But if these rumors are true it would be too soon to break up the Nexus. However I do believe the article on this site stated that the Nexus may still be together beyond October just not in its current form.

 

[Ferbian]

There's really only so far you can go with this faction before it will run out of material to work with. They have fought and decimated the majority of the RAW roster, and they're most likely not gonna be going to Smackdown to do any kind of feuding or smashing. So really what left is there to do for them? There's only singles competition you could really introduce to this faction by now. And it's gonna be hard to make them all work singles competition as a whole faction. So really I wouldn't say it's ending it too soon.

The Nexus is a great thing and all that, and I sure would love to see them continue for a decent amount of while. But we really need to realize that good things must come to an end. The Nexus will eventually need to break up, and considering how quickly they've practically run out of opponents, it would be more than fair to split them up sooner or later, and October seems like a decent moment to do it.

 

[Remix]

Absolutely not. From week 1 I've said Nexus is a way to get Barrett into the main event, and keep the rest of the rookies in the spotlight. Right now Barrett's in with an excellent chance of winning the WWE title at NoC and Nexus have been running Raw of late. Once Barrett's WWE champion it'll be mission accomplished. No sence in letting the angle run on too long. Just ask the nWo what happens when you let a good angle go on too long.

 

[newc868]

It would be much more difficult for them to survive through to Survivor Series, with a forced Nexus 5, when really they can end it in October after the 'higher purpose' has been revealed. Although to expand on what Ferb said about singles competition I think they'll be given all the titles.

First of you have the Nexus attack everyone in the 6 pack challenge for a Wade Barrett win. Justin Gabriel can win the US Title from Daniel Bryan, probably Miz interference again. Finally, have the tag titles go to the last 3 members under a Freebird type rule. Slater, Otunga and Tarver can get something out of this.

You've got Night of Champions and Hell in a Cell as the PPV's to set it up and then have Bragging Rights to finish it off. They'd go in with the 'we've got everything that WWE has to offer, etc'. then you can have them lose everything.

 

[Dum Dum Dudley]

I have to agree with Ferb on this one; what's next? Where can this thing actually go? Apart from the revelation of who the 'higher power' is, The Nexus doesn't really have anything going for it at this moment in time. Barrett's title shot suggests to me that we will see more of the same from Nexus; hired muscle for Barrett whilst Wade bigs himself up on the mic leading into NOC. I think the next PPV really hinders what you can do with Nexus. With the concept of the PPV being title shots only, are Nexus really gonna get a scheduled match to help regain the momentum they lost at Summerslam? The answer is a big, fat NO.

I think another nail in the coffin is the untimely injury to Skip Sheffield. I absolutely love Big Skip. I think he's got that nice, big look Vince creams his pants over and i think he has shown that on the mic he is a very good heel or face. I always had Skip down as the number 2 guy in Nexus as opposed to Otunga or Gabriel and i think his decimation of R-Truth and Morrison shows how big a part of Nexus he is. With his injury and Young's departure, Nexus is down to 5 and suddenly don't have as big a numbers advantage as previously and i think that hurts them quite a bit.

I would have loved to see the feud make it to SS, but as many have stated, the Bragging Rights PPV just seems to fit into the angle very well and i wouldn't be too disappointed to see the feud end there if it did not infringe on the SD v RAW feud. Overall, i think the days of an NWO style angle running for years and years have gone, even in TNA. I was suprised the Main Event Mafia angle ran as long as it did. As for Nexus, 5 months for a bunch of green wrestlers to be so dominant on Monday Night Raw is remarkable and should be nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

The Nexus will have to end at some point. Stables can only go so far before the logical time to end them is taken. Nexus have had a good run (which could get better, depending on what happens at Night of Champions) and have certainly had plenty of highlights. The WWE seems to have either run out of ideas to give this angle OR it's planning something bigger for one of the members (whether it be making Barrett believe that he's above the cause because he's become WWE Champion or another angle, it won't matter).

There is always a natural end to a storyline, and Nexus' for whatever reason, will be October 2010. The years of ongoing stables is dead; and come October, Nexus will be as well.

 

[Mustang Sally]

There's really only so far you can go with this faction before it will run out of material to work with.

Very true, and it's interesting to read through this thread and see the varying opinions about Nexus. Some folks love 'em and some hate 'em........which is healthy.

In essence, the Nexus angle as it stands now has to have a limited duration because it's a one-trick pony; the group has only one purpose and that's to gang-attack other wrestlers. How long can that be interesting? They have to evolve and it already seems to be happening with the following incidents:

-Wade Barrett is stepping forward and getting involved in things that don't directly concern Nexus. Don't think it was an accident that the rest of them were nowhere to be found when Wade was getting stomped by the veterans

-Instead of strictly gang attacks, Nexus is getting to show their individual wrestling skills in singles matches. That's a big switch from trapping some poor guy in the locker room and overcoming him with numbers.

-They are already getting rid of members and may eventually pick up others, suggesting that the entire makeup of Nexus may change in the coming months.


Face it, the idea of Nexus is flexible and can be taken in so many directions that they can keep the angle going for a very long time.

No, I don't think Nexus will be gone in six months.......they'll still be around, but they won't look like they do now.

 

[The Encore]

If the Nexxus angle is truly slated to end in October then Sheffield is lucky he is injured now. Here me out...

If done right, Barrett can simply state that Skip couldn't hack it, got himself injured and is no longer part of Nexxus. That way he is off tv and its explained.

So when he returns in 2011 (I'm projecting a longer recovery for this case), he can easily be placed on SD! He can ask T.Long for an oppurtunity to prove himself, and be humble about it. Long can address his history on RAW but then give the 'playa' a second chance, maybe against another former Nexxus guy on SD!

BAM! He's on a roster, with maybe the cornfed gimmick or something else, no harm...yada yada.

Or the quicker way is for him to be a surprise entrant in next year's Royal Rumble, attack Barrett or another former teamate, eliminate them, start mini-midcard feud. Insta-face 101.

That is exactly what I was thinking. And if Sheffield comes back as a Face oh lord. Would they have him be the second coming of Dave Ba"jesus"tista?
Because a fued with them would take both men to a higher level.
Wade Barrett being the former leader of nexus with him being the former second in command.
While Sheffield is out and recovering and gaining his edge back in the ring.
if he got a bit more agile and learned some tricks, got better on the stick I
could see this big man being a future main eventer. But do we keep the Sheffield name?

 

[CodeBreakingLegend13]

I think the Nexus angle will go much longer than October because like if Barrett is the leader or not, there is someone behind all of this. And i truly believe this bigger purpose is too make the group be carrying all the gold that they could grab. the leader if its the miz or hhh or cena (which is pretty much impossible now) can hold the wwe gold, barrett can hold the wh title on smackdown to involve smackdown is this storyline and make the nexus truly take over the wwe, not raw. Gabriel can hold the us title and otunga and tarver can hold tag team gold and slater grabs the ic belt. this may be unlikely but the pieces could fit for this to happen.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

Okay, there is a thread running about the Nexus and how long they'll last and concensus is Survivor Series (if that). My question is - If Nexus folds who stays/ who goes and what do you do with the backgound Nexusers that ain't future endeavoured? As a follow up, what future do you see for members you feel are surplus to requirements (FCW, TNA, RoH, indies, MMA, day job etc)?

 

[The Encore]

The only people I feel who will remain after this neXus angle is finished. Would simply be,

Justin Gabriel - He has an awesome moveset and a good look, he needs to be better on the microphone if he wants to have an amazing career as a WWE Mid-Carder/High Carder in the future.

Skip Sheffield - His size says it all, he has that certain factor about him that just screams monster heel. He could do big things in the WWE with some work, both in ring and on the microphone.

Michael Tarver - He is the wildcard of the group, if he worked on his in ring ability I could see him being a future big player in the WWE.

 

[CyDeez]

I don't think they are something that should go for years, have different factions within the group itself, like NWO did. But, I thought it would solidify at least a FEW guys in Nexus if they went till Wrestlemania and ended it with some other huge angle.

Nexus has brought some excitement to be honest. The guys in the group are not over as individuals at all. But as a group they have more of an edge to them. The slow surrounding of an opponent starts to take place and they pounce. Since it has been pretty popular, known or really over guys they have jumped. It gives those victims a few moments to react and act a little to put the moments over.

In this process a few guys within Nexus has shined IMO. Barret has continued to grow and looks pretty damn good. Soon he will be ready for the main event.

Skip Sheffield has been looking like a beast. I thought creative and whoever has a say so, has really done a good job of putting him over.

A few more months as a group could really benefit them as they continue to get better. Even Tarver looked iight!

I think Mania is where it should end somehow. Or the events of Mania carries over and they split on Raw, the next night, in some huge storyline or something that goes somewhere other than they just have matches with each other and it is over.

 

[The Best At What I Do]

How so. THe angle's been a com[plete success so far.

Oooohh yay a debate. Now only if it was against someone who could spell. I kid I kid... but seriously be more careful. I respectfully disagree that this angle has been a complete success. I find it quite stale and repetitive already.

Not a tragedy. In the long run it didn't harm the Nexus. Bryan wasn't neccesary. They didn't need a great wrestler in the group, which for all intents and purposes is a vehicle for Wade Barrett. Always was.

No it was not a tragedy. But losing the man who was undoubtedly the best in ring performer in the group, looked the most aggressive in the beatdown, and was the most over at a time was a hell of a blow. It not only cost them some steam but also credibility since most of the other members are largely shit workers.

Um, so? They got their contracts a week later and with it a new GM. not evidence of devine intervention.

I know they got their contracts but clearly the fight wasn't meant to be so easy. That is proved by the fact that the pay-per-view was almost an hour short and reports claiming that The Nexus/Bret Hart feud was supposed to play a large part that night. They didn't get to play the big role they were supposed to and it was definitely meant to help get them more heel heat. But you're wrong, we do not have a new GM. We have the Dell GM3000 flickering lights and sending e-mails faster than the speed of light.

In the mean time they eliminated people who combined have 21 world titles between them and only lost because they made rookie errors. How does that make them look bad exactly?

By and large the internet wrestling community agreed that Nexus needed to win at SummerSlam. Even good ol' JR said it and the man knows his wrestling. They lost their first actual match as a team after weeks upon weeks of talking about their unity and strength in numbers. Instead of them proving why they deserve this huge angle, we have them defeated by a man who was DDT'ed onto concrete. How did that help anyone except John Cena? I understand why he won. The WWE had a new purple shirt to move on shopzone. However it came at the cost of any credibility The Nexus had going into the ppv.

Young was shit, and wouldn't have benefitted from the Nexus rub because of it. No great loss there.

Young was shit. I can't argue with that. But saying he wouldn't benefit from the huge rub of a complete locker room takeover storyline is just ridiculous. Slater is shit and Otunga is shittier (if I may) but if you don't think they're not benefitting from all this screen time then you're just crazy my friend.

OMG A WRESTLER IS INJURED! CATASTRPHIE! Skip will be back, and he and the Nexus will be just fine.

Skip most likely will be back. According to the reports, not for another 6 months however, just in time for WrestleMania where he's sure to be prominently featured (look at my eyes... now roll em!) The Nexus storyline will be a done deal by then. It has 2 months worth of steam left maximum. I'm willing to bet cash money on that one.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

I don't think October is too early. In fact, I'm hoping it gets over sooner. This whole angle has been stuck on repeat like a broken record from week 3. Nexus comes out, attacks someone (usually Cena), claims there's a bigger plan (but the writers are clearly stalling until they can figure it out), and then they leave. Next week, they do the same. The week after, they do the same. The week after, they do the same. The week after, they do the same, though, this time, Cena fights back. Then they follow it up by attacking him and claiming there's a bigger plan....lol.

Plus, the phrase "better than the sum of your parts" doesn't really apply in my mind. I originally was a supporter of Otunga, but he's downgraded since the beginning of NXT and doesn't look to be getting any better. Slater seems so forced and going nowhere. Young is crap. Tarver's decent on the mic but nothing special and crap in the ring. Sheffield has some potential, but is injured. Gabriel's good in the ring but has no character and is crap on the mic. Then you have Barrett, who is clearly the diamond in the rough, and has a lot of potential. Once you take Wade out of the group, you take out the lynch pin and you're left with a bunch of guys that wouldn't have been able to make it on the normal roster without being a part of a stable where they mask their faults. Remember how many people were in the NWO and stuck around for quite a while, but when left to their own volition, couldn't prove their worth?

They already had a 7-on-7 match, the Nexus is beaten, there doesn't seem to be a plot to it, and they're already separating members. October's giving them a mercy extra month in my mind.

 

[Remix]

Oooohh yay a debate. Now only if it was against someone who could spell.

I kid I kid... but seriously be more careful. I respectfully disagree that this angle has been a complete success. I find it quite stale and repetitive already.

The fact that you find it stale doesn't change the fact that it's been a complete success.

No it was not a tragedy. But losing the man who was undoubtedly the best in ring performer in the group, looked the most aggressive in the beatdown, and was the most over at a time was a hell of a blow. It not only cost them some steam but also credibility since most of the other members are largely shit workers.

Yeah, that arguement didn't work when he was first released, and it still doesn't. Nexus never needed a great ring worker, and all of the members bar Barrett were disposible. Bryan Danielson would never have changed anything for the Nexus. They still would have ran when John Cena and co hit the ring the week after.

As much as Season 1 was a Daniel Bryan Vehicle, Nexus is a Wade Barrett vehicle.

I know they got their contracts but clearly the fight wasn't meant to be so easy. That is proved by the fact that the pay-per-view was almost an hour short and reports claiming that The Nexus/Bret Hart feud was supposed to play a large part that night.]They didn't get to play the big role they were supposed to and it was definitely meant to help get them more heel heat.

I don't remember reading that there was supposed to be a great deal of time spent on Nexus and Hart, but then I don't follow the dirtsheets too much. And I've made my feelings on dirtsheets abundantly clear search the bryan danielson release threads for "pinch of salt and a shot of tequila". And when were they ever struggling to get heat? Pretty sure they had that since week 1.

But you're wrong, we do not have a new GM. We have the Dell GM3000 flickering lights and sending e-mails faster than the speed of light.

That's who I'm referring to. On the grounds that he's referred to as "The General Manager" and makes matches and stuff.

By and large the internet wrestling community agreed that Nexus needed to win at SummerSlam. Even good ol' JR said it and the man knows his wrestling. They lost their first actual match as a team after weeks upon weeks of talking about their unity and strength in numbers. Instead of them proving why they deserve this huge angle, we have them defeated by a man who was DDT'ed onto concrete. How did that help anyone except John Cena? I understand why he won. The WWE had a new purple shirt to move on shopzone. However it came at the cost of any credibility The Nexus had going into the ppv.

Dude, the IWC are idiots. The Nexus beat people who have 21 world champions between them and lost because they messed up, and in spite of their loss they took John Cena to his limit, and would have won if they hadn't made a rookie mistake. Nexus didn't need the win as much as we thought they did.

They also got a booster in the form of going 6-1 against team WWE.

Young was shit. I can't argue with that. But saying he wouldn't benefit from the huge rub of a complete locker room takeover storyline is just ridiculous. Slater is shit and Otunga is shittier (if I may) but if you don't think they're not benefitting from all this screen time then you're just crazy my friend.

He wouldn't have benefitted from it because he'd never amount to anything. Ever. Why waste the spotlight on someone who won't benefit from it? After Nexus he'd have fucked off to FCW and been released.

Otunga will be a star when he's had a few more years in the buisness and could be used on TV effectively while he learns.

Slater is shit, but he's a lot better than Young. At the very least he's got a personality, and with a bit of work could get the crowd to react to him (i.e. chant Wendy at him). WWE obviously sees more in him than Young because he didn't get eliminated within the first thirty seconds of their Summerslam match.

Skip most likely will be back. According to the reports, not for another 6 months however, just in time for WrestleMania where he's sure to be prominently featured (look at my eyes... now roll em!) The Nexus storyline will be a done deal by then. It has 2 months worth of steam left maximum. I'm willing to bet cash money on that one.

Yeah, he'll be back after 'Mania. But note how I didn't say "He'd be back in the same place" I said he'd be fine. Which he will be, because he's big, good and will easily bludgeon his way into the upper midcard of Raw or Smackdown.

Nexus will be fine without him however long it lasts because it has been a complete success. Sure there have been a few setbacks, but it has worked. Wade Barrett is my pick to win the 6-Pack Challenge, the rookies are very over; even the one that people were crying over a couple of months ago.

Complete success, like I say.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think October is too quick, but November is when it should end..It's not like WWE can run out off ideas for what Nexus can do...We still have to see Nexus defeat someone as a team..and then it can come to an end at Survivor Series..It makes sense to end feuds like this at Survivor Series...It just does..and no one will disagree with me ryt?