*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread

[Morpheus101]

that would be ingenious but also not make sense at the same time, cena sacrificing his championship and getting his ass beat so badly he's taken out on a stretcher, getting beat up week in, week out. i dunno i just dont see cena joining nexus.

Cena has taken a beating at the hands of Nexus, but that may well count for nothing. There have already been a few subtle clues leading up to what could be a possible Cena heel turn / alignment with Nexus:

1) Jericho's paranoia (I do not believe for one second that this is just paranoia)

2) The fact that Nexus haven't touched Cena physically for the past 2 weeks now

3) The fact that Cena has assembled a strong team of top stars, but stars that cannot co-exist

4) Cena has put Bret Hart in the team so that Nexus can destroy Bret Hart

5) Cena has also dropped a few subtle hints in his promos over the last couple of weeks....that this is all or nothing, etc, etc.

So I'm probably wrong, but I get the feeling that a huge heel turn is coming. It'd be WWE's answer to Hogan joining the nWo in WCW. Nexus are powerful right now, but imagine how powerful they'd be with Cena's star power...and he doesn't even have to be leader, because Wade Barrett is doing such a good job of that. However, to be as great as the nWo, Nexus need some semblance of star power, whether it be Cena, Orton or HHH....one of those guys has to turn to the dark side

There's a chance that this may happen, but there's also a chance that it won't and that WWE will be predictable.

 

[albertg123]

Cena turning heel with this storyline will do the WWE wonders in ratings and BUZZ. The perfectway to turn him heel is at the end of the match, have bret and cena versus wade and cena tags in bret, and bret puts the sharpshooter on wade, then cena gets in the ring, and gives BRET an atitude adjustment with wade pinning him barely contious. NEXUS rushes in the ring and Celibrate with cena and then Monday raw he can explain why!

 

[Morpheus101]

Cena turning heel with this storyline will do the WWE wonders in ratings and BUZZ. The perfectway to turn him heel is at the end of the match, have bret and cena versus wade and cena tags in bret, and bret puts the sharpshooter on wade, then cena gets in the ring, and gives BRET an atitude adjustment with wade pinning him barely contious. NEXUS rushes in the ring and Celibrate with cena and then Monday raw he can explain why!

I'm liking that Albert. I see the writing on the wall here....I doubted it before, but now I really think that FINALLY we're going to see heel Cena again. Think about it...he has assembled a team of *top* Raw superstars who do not get along, who may well destroy one another anyway, leaving Nexus to pick off the remains. If Nexus want to dominate Raw, they will certainly achieve this by having the likes of Jericho, Edge and Morrison out of the picture.

 

[KnowYoRole]

Cena has taken a beating at the hands of Nexus, but that may well count for nothing. There have already been a few subtle clues leading up to what could be a possible Cena heel turn / alignment with Nexus:

1) Jericho's paranoia (I do not believe for one second that this is just paranoia)

2) The fact that Nexus haven't touched Cena physically for the past 2 weeks now

3) The fact that Cena has assembled a strong team of top stars, but stars that cannot co-exist

4) Cena has put Bret Hart in the team so that Nexus can destroy Bret Hart

5) Cena has also dropped a few subtle hints in his promos over the last couple of weeks....that this is all or nothing, etc, etc.

So I'm probably wrong, but I get the feeling that a huge heel turn is coming. It'd be WWE's answer to Hogan joining the nWo in WCW. Nexus are powerful right now, but imagine how powerful they'd be with Cena's star power...and he doesn't even have to be leader, because Wade Barrett is doing such a good job of that. However, to be as great as the nWo, Nexus need some semblance of star power, whether it be Cena, Orton or HHH....one of those guys has to turn to the dark side

There's a chance that this may happen, but there's also a chance that it won't and that WWE will be predictable.

1) Why not? Jericho is a heel...that's his character.
2) beating him up too much would be overkill. they've already done a lot to him. they're probably gonna save up a special beating at summerslam.
3) He assembled a bunch of stars that were attacked or affected in some way by nexus, tht would want revenge...well except the great khali.
4) Why would he want nexus to destroy hart?
5) The only hints he dropped were taking a nexus armband and that promo he did last week.

 

[albertg123]

I'm liking that Albert. I see the writing on the wall here....I doubted it before, but now I really think that FINALLY we're going to see heel Cena again. Think about it...he has assembled a team of *top* Raw superstars who do not get along, who may well destroy one another anyway, leaving Nexus to pick off the remains. If Nexus want to dominate Raw, they will certainly achieve this by having the likes of Jericho, Edge and Morrison out of the picture.

yes cena has been the nexus "target" mosely since they became a team, yet somehow on tonights episode they did nothing to him at all, with cena and is team falling apart, cena can prevail and fool us all with this nexus thing. imagine the shock to it all. people think its dumb, but reLLY...ITS perfect!

 

[Morpheus101]

1) Why not? Jericho is a heel...that's his character.
2) beating him up too much would be overkill. they've already done a lot to him. they're probably gonna save up a special beating at summerslam.
3) He assembled a bunch of stars that were attacked or affected in some way by nexus, tht would want revenge...well except the great khali.
4) Why would he want nexus to destroy hart?
5) The only hints he dropped were taking a nexus armband and that promo he did last week.

Yes, that's Jericho's character, but it'd be too obvious to believe that it's just paranoia this time around. I truly think there's more to it. Besides, a Jericho face turn has been teased for a few weeks now and the guy gets enormous pops.

Your post does make sense, but I still feel there's more to it than meets the eye. Cena did assemble a bunch of stars affected by Nexus, but he could also be throwing them to the proverbial lions, thus eliminating much of Raw's talent (from a Nexus perspective, it's easier to destroy guys who don't get along than a cohesive team).

Look, it's probably not going to happen, but it's an exciting prospect (Cena turning heel and defecting to Nexus). It would be a stroke of genius on the part of WWE, emulating what WCW did when Hogan joined nWo (who thought that would ever have happened?). If Jericho were to turn face, Raw would still have enough top faces in the company (Orton, Jericho and Morrisson). You'd still have Edge and Sheamus as non-Nexus heels and HHH to come back eventually.

 

[Ferbian]

The Nexus looked good last night actually. I liked how they were booked in an elimination match. At least it helps the way to book them instead of giving them a match where because one is weak, the rest of the team is fucked.

The Nexus is looking dominant as ever with this, WWE has struck gold with this storyline, and it's slowly showing that all of these people, while some might not get where some of the others will, all of them will have a decent career on their hands after The Nexus ends.

Skip Sheffield was looking great last night eliminating both Tyson Kidd and Mark Henry with vicious clotheslines, I've always thought the finisher he has was awful, perhaps make the triumphant return of the Clothesline From Hell? Would fit him incredibly well.

And even though they came off looking strong all of them, I would say Sheffield and Slater were obviously the working spirit of the team last night, eliminating 3 of them and Sheffield of course setting up for a 4th elimination between the two of them.

 

[Dave]

I didn’t like the way that The Nexus were booked last night. It all started with them allowing Khali to leave the ring without any harm inflicted upon him. For me, I have little to no clue what that was about. I mean, they have been going through superstars like nothing else recently but as soon as it is a big, powerful guy, they suddenly decide that it is not worth their time anymore? That makes no sense to me. In fact, I think it would have made the Nexus look better if they had attacked Khali. There is no doubt that he is a dominating force when he wants to be and it would have gotten them some good heat. However, they just let him leave the ring and nothing more came of it. To me, that looked pretty weak but maybe it was because they were saving their strength for the elimination match.

Either way, the elimination match was far too predictable. I mean, the Raw superstars were pretty good talents and the Nexus went through them like a hot knife through butter. Now, don’t get me wrong, this showed that the Nexus are strong enough as a unit to go on to Summerslam and face Cena’s team but having them win in a clean sweep was just a little too much, I thought. I mean some of the guys who were in the Raw team are having good runs at the moment and whilst I know that showing any weakness in the Nexus would be a bad thing, did they have to win by 7-0 and extinguishing the good runs of people like the Hart’s and Evan Bourne?

No matter, it is what it is and they march on again.

 

[StopIt]

Well this past Raw after Khali beat Edge, Nexus surrounded Khali, but didn't attack him and just left. And I read a spoiler for the next Raw and Nexus said that they didn't attack Khali because they respected him. And since Khali is pretty much done with his Guest Host crap, do you think the WWE is building Khali as a monster heel to join Nexus? Since the team is right now kinda breaking up?

 

[DecayNYFX]

What about that "winds of change" remark Barret made a while back? Maybe it was a reference to Cena turning heel? Could be another clue for things to come or could just be nothing. For Cena to align himself with Nexus, yeah, VERY cool, having him turn on all the little kids & tween girls would DEFINITELY grab WWE some notice. I hope Vince realizes that & actually does it. But I'm not gonna get my hopes up...

 

[The People's Peep]

Yeah, I really want to know what happened between the Nexus and The Great Khali.

You would think they would demolish him. He's the biggest member of Team Cena and the guy that the announcers will say is the most dangerous and powerful member of team Cena. Why wouldnt they just do like they did to Cena, VKM, Steamboat, and Bourne? Why did they let him go? It was a little weird.

However, I could be looking into this way too much. They probably were just coming out for their match. Yes, it was during the Khali/Edge match, but I'm pretty sure that they have done this before.

As for how their match was, it was predictable but I dont think they could have booked it any other way. They are obviously booking Team Cena as a massive underdog. They are disfunctional while the Nexus is united and strong. Having no one eliminated last night was the best way to display the massive difference between the two teams.

 

[martymcfly]

I thought it was ridiculous for the nexus to have a clean sweep. Yeah, they are supposed to be this solid united front. But come on, they are a bunch of rookies too. Back in NXT, outside of slater vs. jericho, they all were squashed--especially barrett--anytime they faced off against a "pro".

Now we're supposed to believe that their overall ability spiked just because they are part of a group and they can very easily squash 7 pros in a row? That's just too much of a leap for me.

 

[Digging4Plunder]

I believe Nexus is doing a little Tom Foolery as far the Khali situation goes. He's freaking huge so Nexus is trying to make him think they won't hurt him so he'll "go easy" on them or maybe not even fight them at all. Just simple psychology that's been used in tons of matches with a huge guy or someone deemed "dangerous". Don't look too far into it.

 

[patriotjay]

why didnt Nexus look this good on NXT season 1 when they looked like jobbers with the exception of Wade Barret and Heath Slaters win over Jericho in most of theyre matches against the main roster.It was a little over the top for a clean sweep on Raw last nite but they need the build up going into SS and it looked believable.im just hoping this leads to an eventual War Games match that would be fn awesome.

 

[KnowYoRole]

why didnt Nexus look this good on NXT season 1 when they looked like jobbers with the exception of Wade Barret and Heath Slaters win over Jericho in most of theyre matches against the main roster.It was a little over the top for a clean sweep on Raw last nite but they need the build up going into SS and it looked believable.im just hoping this leads to an eventual War Games match that would be fn awesome.

I think this whole Nexus storyline has done wonders for the season 1 rookies. I guess being a part of the biggest angle in wrestling in recent history must instill a whole lot of confidence inside you. They all seem very comfortable in their roles and that's great.

 

[Ultra Awesome]

Sorry if I am not up-to-date with the current NEXUS "coversation" but i am bearly putting in my "2 cents".

I personally like what has been happening with the NEXUS as of late. It has been a good while since WWE has gotten me off my feet (interested) for one of their storylines. They make Nexus look unstoppable (just look at how they won on the 7 on 7 elimination match yesterday).

And then last week when John Cena was about to give up hope, he creates another team of 7 to take them on. But the group can't seem to work together. That is pure gold. Though i absolutely hate the fact the Great Khali is on the team (and then Nexus lets him go!...what's up with that?!).

Overall, the NEXUS storyline reminds me of a Justice League episode where the League cannot seem to work together to take on a group of villians. But this is beside the point.

Nevertheless, kudos to WWE, because of their recent work, for the first time in 4 years, I will purchase the Summer Slam ppv.

 

[patriotjay]

I think this whole Nexus storyline has done wonders for the season 1 rookies. I guess being a part of the biggest angle in wrestling in recent history must instill a whole lot of confidence inside you. They all seem very comfortable in their roles and that's great.

what does confidence have to do with NXT season 1s booking?this is WWE not the NFL its not like the outcome of matches isnt predetermened so I dont get that point.But as far as the Nexus angle goes its great and I hope that WWE lets it go on for a while and doesnt make some veteran the "mastermind".Nexus got a lot of talent and WWE definetley could use the instant superstar format Nexus seems to be.Im just sayin most of those guys were getting there asses handed to them on NXT now theyre taking out Raw's mid-card guys like its easy.I just think the booking on Raw is a little crazy but overall I like the angle and the 7-0 sweep on Raw is a good thing as far as making instant superstars.

 

[Undying777]

Now I think Wade is doing a good job as the leader of Nexus. I also don't think that they really need a secret master mind behind Nexus. However, I was just thinking what if the Miz is going to be revealed as the master mind/ leader as Nexus?

It really dos make a lot of sense to me. If I remember correctly the Miz has never gotten jumped by Nexus. I also read on the news feed that Vince respects the Miz as much as he dos Cena. I could see creative place this whole storyline on the Miz.

 

[patriotjay]

I think if they keep Barret as the leader its gonna do wonders for him in the long haul dude is definetley a future main even talent and a top heel.I think if you put someone else at the helm of Nexus he loses some of that credibility,And I also think Daniel Bryan will play a major hand in this thing befor its over Im not sure how theyre gonna do it but its damn near certain.I just dontsee how throwing an established star in Nexus helps them as a whole.They seem to take care of themselves just fine under Barret and like I posted befor it makes all the members of Nexus at superstar/main roster level by taking on the Raw stars without any established help on theyre side which will be good for all members once this Nexus thing is over.

 

[Mr. 619]

Im hoping that soon the Nexus will start winning some gold, to truely showcase their dominance. I think that they should win the tag titles off of the hart dynasty so they could extend their reach over to smackdown as well. They could defend the titles freebird style.

 

[ForzaItalia]

Now it seems the Nexus will be a stable for long time. With that being said I was thinking that this could happen at the Rumble. Wade Barrett and the Nexus dominate most of the superstars in the rumble until 14 guys remain. The Nexus are able to pull through 6 of the guys with Barrett being the last man in the ring. Triple H is revealed as the last entrant to the rumble. HHH is eventually eliminated and Wade earns a title shot at Wrestlemania. Undertaker is the World Heavyweight champion at the time and Barrett has his eye set on the Championship and of course the streak. Wrestlemania finally comes and it's Barrett vs. Taker. This would be one of the most important WM wins in history where Wade is able to defeat the Undertaker by himself (no Nexus). Thus, ending the streak and giving Barrett the title and one hell of a career ahead of him. The chances of Barrett winning against Undertaker at WM are very slim, but if Barrett was to win the match what the hell would happen next?

 

[patriotjay]

In response to the last post.Barret is gonna be good but not that good.To have someone beat The Undertaker at Mania would be a high risk high reward deal and if someones gonna do it (which I think will never happen,if HBK cant do it then who the f can)it better be a guy WWE knows for a fact is a future number 1 in the company.I dont want to see the streak end but if its gonna happen its got to be cleverly done.Id say you can go with the Undertaker vs Barret match at Mania build it as Barret being the biggest heel in the WWE vs the WWE's all time best in Taker.Have it be real close,near falls Barret actually seems like he has a chance and let Taker win by the skin of his teeth via small package somthing like that.Streak intact,title in hand,and beatin within inches of his life let The Miz cash in mitb skull crushing finale Miz wins the belt..Taker wins his scheduled WM match but loses afterward.To me thats the way to do it technically Taker's streak is intact by winning his match with Barret but he did get pinned at Mania in an improptu beat down after a brutal 25 minute match against Barret.Miz is gonna be huge and may be worth the investment it sets up a 3-4 month program with the Miz and Taker,Taker beats the hell out of Miz maybe even winning the belt back but eventually 3 months down the road on ppv Miz gets a clean win over Taker winning the title and proving he belongs in the same company as the biggest star of all time in Taker.That catopults Miz' status for years to come...just a thought

 

[KnowYoRole]

Can Justin Gabriel be a major player after the nexus disbands? I mean, look at him and how he's being built. He's got a great look, is an awesome wrestler and his finisher is sick and is always being put over by announcers as a really destructive move. He's one of the most important members of the nexus. I think he'll stay in the company upper mid-card after the storyline ends.

 

[patriotjay]

give a guy like Justin Gabriel the U.S or IC belt when this things over I think he can have great matches with Kofi,Bourne,Ziggler guys like that.May be able to bring some noteriety back to a midcard title

 

[Dave]

give a guy like Justin Gabriel the U.S or IC belt when this things over I think he can have great matches with Kofi,Bourne,Ziggler guys like that.May be able to bring some noteriety back to a midcard title

I actually cannot see the logic in this at all.

Of all the guys (outside of Barrett), I doubt that Gabriel is in the best position to capture a mid-card Championship and giving it to him would only serve to reinforce the view that the mid-card Championships are for the people who lack the size or fortune to get into the main event – for the most part anyway.

I mean, let us look at some of the last mid-card Champions and see how their careers have went for them, shall we?

R-Truth – The less that is said about his reign, the better. It was tiny and he was eventually brushed aside by The Miz after being handed the US Championship. He is now feuding with people like Ted DiBiase and he has gone nowhere.

Drew McIntyre – You can say all you want about his Visa issues but at the end of the day, he only has himself to blame for being so pathetically boring that no one wants to see him perform.

MVP – Again, he showed some promise but is still feuding with the mid-card after being with the WWE for long enough to typically merit a place in the main event scene on a show. I wouldn’t say he has been bad at anything and his mid-card reign was pretty damn good. Yet, look where he is now.

The fact of the matter, is that outside of The Miz, the mid-card talent just don’t really have what it takes to make that jump and that is not how I see Gabriel. I think once all of this is said and done, you will see Gabriel pushing for a spot in the main event and a mid-card Championship would basically tear that opportunity away from him.