*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread

[The Insano Shiekh]

Well, as we all know, the Nexus are one of the biggest things in WWE right now. The problem with this is, not all of the talents in the Nexus are getting "noticed" such as hitting their finishers or really taunting someone to get heat. My question is, do you think that if the Nexus split up into duos yet still did the attacks together would help the other guys get more over? Duos such as:

Heath Slater and Justin Gabriel

Michael Tarver and David Otunga

Skip Sheffield and Darren Young

and the leader at this time, Wade Barrett, take the rings and go for a singles title. Just a thought that popped into my head, but what do you guys think?

 

[secret titan]

I think they need to do more than they are currently doing now. If they formed into teams, they could go after the tag belts and do so much more. The only problem with this is that other wrestlers would have less showtime than they are already getting.

Good idea though and it would make more sense than trying to fit in everyone during the time allowed.

 

[Dave]

No, I don’t think that splitting up would make them any more successful. In fact, I would go as far as to say that if they split up, they would probably destroy some of the great work that they have been doing recently.

However, I do think that they would be doing the WWE a massive favour right now. It is no secret that the WWE’s tag division is seriously undermanned right now and you have two teams that are feuding over the Championships. By splitting the Nexus up, you immediately give yourself a few more options for what you want to do with the Tag division and it could revitalise the division. However, with great risk, comes a chance that it might not pay off and it really needs a lot of consideration as to whether it is truly worth it or not.

For example, if the Nexus are broken into different pairs for the use of their services in the tag division or otherwise, I think a lot of the pack mentality that makes the Nexus so difficult to manage and so scary is pretty much dead in the water. They have always been united since they first invaded Raw and I would hate to see them lose what makes them dominating and that is their numbers. Of course some people are going to be over-shadowed by the bigger names in the group but I doubt it would be worth the risk, to be honest.

 

[Prax]

Simply put, they need to be in more matches. Barrett can wrestle singles, Sheffield and Otunga too, and put Young and Tarver in one tag team, and Slater and Gabriel in another, or something like that. They don't need to split up though, but I really want to see what they're capable of in proper matches, win or lose.

 

[The People's Peep]

I dont think there is any doubt that they are the biggest heels right now.

They have done several vicious attacks on big faces, legends, and the chairman. That is definitely going to get you some heat. After their attack on Jericho and Edge, the heat was almost deafening as they walked back up the stage. Right now, the only other RAW star that gets even close to the amount of heat they get is The Miz.

Two of the bigger heels right now, Jericho and Edge, are beginning to get pops because of the Nexus. When that happens, you know that you have a really strong heel. No doubt about it, The Nexus are the biggest and strongest heels right now.

 

[simeon63]

I am afraid the WWE is using the same old story line, Kane is responsible for what happen to his brother they go onto feud we have seen this a million times already. I believe the ral leader of Nexus is Sheameus I mean look at the facts they helped him win the title and keep the title. Shameus has not been attacked by Nexus and Sheamus has done no more than swing a steel chair in the ring not hitting any Nexus members. Sure in the cage match one of the members of nexus climb up the cage giving it the appearance he was trying to stop Sheamus though Sheamus hit him once and the guy feel off the cage.

 

[dvayne]

Without a doubt. Jericho & Edge are on Team Cena and will probably get a good pop leading up to Summerslam. Sheamus was the top heel but with the whole Nexus angle and him coming to Cena's aid he could almost be seen as a tweener and the Miz is getting pops like crazy especially since winning the MITB

One of the only clear cut heels on Raw right now besides Nexus is Ted Dibiase. Of course this will only last until the Nexus invasion is over (like the Alliance invasion) Then alot of these tweeners will go back to being heels

 

[mayankeagle]

It wouldn't make sense for Nexus to be behind Undertaker's attack. History has it that Taker always returns for revenge against those who wronged him. If he returns and single-handedly kicks a** of Nexus in the ring, which he can, it would hurt their current push. Its better that Kane be the one behind the attack, which is quite obvious now because he is the champion. So basically he eliminated his brother so that he could become the champion. Its a boring story too, because we have seen it before many times that Kane attacked Taker and then Taker returned for revenge. It would have been better if it was Swagger so that we could have seen a fresh feud and Swagger deserves the push, moreover he can work well in the ring with Taker. I'm sick of seeing Mysterio winning over him.

 

[The Deadly Viper]

Um this is Smackdown's biggest storyline at the moment (well in my opinion). So tell me why would they put raw talent promoting smackdown storylines. It just wouldn't work. However if they are behind the attack they have just ruined a good storyline.

 

[The Ram]

Well at first I did think they were related but I think they should remain as two seperate storylines. because the undertaker attacker storyline is great and the nexus angle is great so were having to great storylines at once so it should remain seperate.

I really think triple h is the leader of nexus because sheamus hasn't really been hurt by nexus and triple h might want sheamus to be ready for a beat down and he doesn't want sheamus to be injured so triple h can have him for his self. Then they might want sheamus to have the WWE championship so triple h can take it from sheamus. Just a thought.

 

[Judah's Lion]

i'm gonna go a bit against the flow here...

first off, i agree that the Nexus behind the Taker Attack is a terrible idea. it promotes the wrong guys on the wrong show. and part of what does make Nexus so awesome is that we have to wait to see them every week. we're not seeing them 3 times a week and dominating every show, a la NWO, but we're seeing them just once a week and, while dominating, still getting beat up once in a while which lends to the credibility and realism of the angle. Nexus doesn't need the Taker story to be over. they're already over. so leave it alone and presume that it's a Smackdown star responsible for Taker.

that said, an obvious choice could go to Kane. it's a proven story that works, the two work okay together in the ring and the story writes itself with Kane wanting the title that his brother was also in contention for. but i think that there are a lot of other possibilities here also...

Teddy Long: his way of getting back at McMahon? take out McMahon's top draw on the show. this could start a heel turn for Long and the start of a new stable.
CM Punk: he has history with Taker including some title switches. so Punk is out for revenge. this might be okay, if written well and executed well.
Rey: this is super risky, but this could start a heel turn for Rey. it's not been done, to my knowledge, ever, and Rey is super over with all the merchendise and kids, but still, maybe his gimmick could use a bit of a freshen up. have him say that he took Taker out so that he could get his shot at the title. don't just make him the Ultimate Underdog. make him the guy that will do sneak attacks to win and to stack the deck more in his favor. if WWE is considering turning Cena heel, they might also consider a heel Rey.
Big Show: only room for one monster kind of deal. only problem here is that Show and Taker has been done as much as Kane and Taker. so this is not such a good option.
Swagger: felt that Taker was the biggest threat to his title. so Swagger regains the title in time for a Taker return and these two can then feud.
Christian, Kofi, Drew, Matt, Ziggler, etc: any mid-card guy that felt this was the best shot to "make a name" for themselves and get a shot at the title. take out the big threat and enter MITB with hopes to win. this would take lots of good writing and execution but could do wonders for one of these guys if this was the case. maybe a heel turn for Christian or Koki and good feud with Taker would ultimately propel them to eternal main event status.

those are some of my thoughts, or at least, some of my hopes for how this plays out.

 

[billm75]

Well maybe not split up entirely, but into pairings so they can wrestle rather than crap all over other people's matches the way they have been. They could still intimidate backstage and during matches like always, but we'd actually get to see some of them wrestle once in a while too. Could be the best thing for them in my mind. I had mentioned this some time ago, actually.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

You can't split them up yet. The only one who's shown he can at least compete on that level is Barrett. Other than that the best they've done is beat Cena in a 6 on 1 match. Plus it's obvious they still have to work on their in ring abilities. Every time I have to watch Otunga's finisher I cringe.

 

[Judah's Lion]

they should not be split up. the risk far outweighs the potential reward. keeping in mind, it is a guaranteed risk and only a possible reward, so that's the problem there.

what makes the Nexus so dominating and so scary and so unpredictable is that they are one. it's a pack of wolves. separate them and you immediately take away their edge and advantage and their intimidation.

however, you could have some matches with them. something maybe along these lines:

tag match: have them win the Tag Team Titles and defend them a la the Freebird Rules. let any 2 of 5 members defend the titles at any time.

6 or 8-man tag match: have 3 or 4 of the guys not named Wade Barrett get in the ring and duke it out with 3 or 4 of the Cena Brigade, or anyone else for that matter. get them some ring time to work out any rust and for us to see what they really are capable of. the benefit here too; if they start to lose, they've got some allies on the outside that can run-in, interfere or in any other way help Nexus still come out on top so that they don't lose all of their first matches.

singles matches: put Barrett, Otunga and maybe even Sheffield in the ring with someone and let them go. i'm not suggesting a fight with the Miz for the US Title. if Miz were to lose the belt or even just a match with one of these guys, it could really hurt his credibility as a MITB winner and World Title Contender. but put them in the ring with Evan Bourne, Goldust, Regal, R-Truth, etc. there has to be somebody on the roster that would help these guys look good by giving them the nod in the ring.

but don't break them up. not yet. whenever any kind of match is booked, book it so that all of Nexus is at ringside. maybe do some Lumberjack style matches. but if you split them up, you immediately take their legs out from under them. just give them time before the split or they will be lost in the roster.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Splitting up is the last thing they should do right now. Certain members of The Nexus are overall much stronger than some others. For instance, Wade Barrett has shown me that he'd be a star with or without The Nexus. David Otunga showed during NXT that he's probably got what it takes. He's good on the mic and solid in the ring, although I think he needs a new finisher as his spinebuster looks weak. Michael Tarver has shown some real compotence on the mic. Skip Sheffield, the few times he's spoken, has also been solid and he's definitely got an intimidating look about him. Heath Slater, Darren Young and Justin Gabriel are all pretty good inside the ring but are definitely the weakest in terms of either overall look and promo ability. Just being part of The Nexus, however, is helping the weaker guys to get over with the crowd. I do feel that their role will be expanded to some degree as things move along and they become a bit more seasoned. So no, splitting them into duos isn't really going to be of much help in my view.

 

[Gary87]

I still don't understand why everybody thinks Nexus needs a leader. That's what Wade Barrett is. It doesn't make sense to have a stable of Rookies doing whatever it takes to be noticed, being led by a proven veteran.

And the idea of them being behind the Undertaker storyline is also a terrible one. Why would you cross each brand's top draw right now?

 

[mr_dna]

No nexus just wouldnt work yeah they will get heat for it but has taker ever returned from a beat down and not mopped the floor with those who caused it Nope so if they are it will just mean taker will make them all jobbers lol.

 

[Daniel]

You can't split the Nexus up. The whole point of them is that all seven of them are united. They are one. They have a pact mentality, when they're cutting a promo or beating the hell out of someone. That is the great thing about them, I can't recall a stable of seven young, dominant heels like the Nexus.

Even if it was for occasional matches, I wouldn't agree having them in fixed pairings. If it was done on an ad hoc basis it would probably be better. That is something I can get on board with.

 

[newc868]

They're a pack, they should attack like one. However, this 7 on 7 thing that's been announced for SummerSlam is actually quite useful because now it's a legimate reason for them to have some 1 on 1 or tag matches with the people involved in the match.

Obviously take Bret Hart and Cena out of the equation and the Nexus still have that numbers game.

 

[RT]

I dont see the Nexus being the attackers of the Undertaker. Again, why would you have a RAW talent on a smackdown storyline to me it just dosent make sense for the Nexus to be the attackers of the Undertaker. I mean the thought of Teddy Long being the leader makes a little sense but still is a long shot.

Other Ideas would be perhaps mid card stars such as Matt, Christian, Kofi, Drew- these guys could make sense again in a make a name for themselves role. In my mind these are my ideas for now so we will see what happens in the future. Because what is the point of having RAW stars attack superstars on Smackdown.

 

[Unsold Bacon]

So anyways this jsut popped in my head a while ago. What if the Mystery Raw GM was behind the Nexus.

We have heard a lot of people be the secret Nexus leader from Bret Hart to John Cena to Triple.As far as I know the GM angle still doesn't have an actual GM for when it gets revealed. I think it would be perfect storyline. All you need is a good heel character and they must be established( No; Colin Delaneys people). Just one night on Raw maybe the GM will be revealed and Nexus come out and announce him or her. And a swerve happens when this person come out and the Nexus circle them and put of nowhere they stop and the GM raise their hands and their music plays. This way we can get a good heel GM and maybe no guest host(we can dream).Maybe it can end with Vince returning and giving the GM the pink slip and they just join Nexus. My mystery GM would be William Regal to be behind the attacks as he is established,needs a push and as we saw can play position of authority well.


Do you like this idea and does it make sense?

If so, who would you want as GM?

Optional Question

How would the angle end?

Go ahead and merge this with the Nexus discussion thread if needed.

 

[Gansher]

I'd go with Regal too in this case! But always remember that Regal blew his push back when he won KOTR! WWE seems to be afraid to push the guys who get suspended, unless the guy is Jeff Hardy -.- But still, Regal needs a push. He basically turned into Hornswoggle but is losing to Santino

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

It doesn't make sense...yet.

But, expanding this feud onto Smackdown would both take it in a fresh direction AND get Kane off the hook as far as his brother's attacker, which would be awesome. However, I really don't like the idea of Teddy Long being behind the attacks. I am really against anybody being the guy behind all the attacks. The Nexus need to remain a legitimate heel force that is feared by everyone. If Nexus is going to be the Undertaker's attacker, let it be them. I like the idea of John Cena joining forces with Nexus at SummerSlam and turning on the WWE. It's great. Nobody on Raw has been able to defeat Nexus, and if John Cena joins them, they'll be even more unstoppable. So have the Undertaker return when he's healthy, and have him shock the world by showing up in the ring and taking out somebody from the Nexus revealing them to be the attacker. Then you could have Nexus come to Smackdown and start destroying guys like Big Show and Rey Mysterio to get revenge. And then you not only have the top guys from Raw trying to take out Nexus, but you've got Smackdown as well. They could even hold it out to Survivor Series and have a classic match with the WWE vs. Nexus. We haven't seen Smackdown and Raw really come together against one force before, and if Cena was leading that force (or Triple H, or both!) it would be one hell of a feud. And you could still have Orton, Miz, Sheamus, Mysterio, Swagger, and CM Punk to fight over the World and WWE titles, and the mid card talent feuds, and it would still be a jam-packed PPV. Maybe even see Wade Barrett break free and start a singles push?

 

[RKOreBourne]

I'd go with Regal too in this case! But always remember that Regal blew his push back when he won KOTR! WWE seems to be afraid to push the guys who get suspended, unless the guy is Jeff Hardy -.- But still, Regal needs a push. He basically turned into Hornswoggle but is losing to Santino

I love that little guy haha
Regal would be a good plug if they went along with that tho. Otherwise i can still see Hunter coming back as a mad heel

 

[NYJETMET]

Though you make a valid point, I can't buy Regal.

I also do not feel the mystery GM should be NXT. I think that as long as they keep him a "tweener" ala Steve Austin, the mystery GM can remain a mystery and survive that way at least until the Royal Rumble on thier own.

I think the two; NXT and GM need to remain seperate. Because think of this, at one point you can have the leader of NXT be unvailed, get the heat he and the group would relish......................only to have the mystery GM be revealed to go against NXT as an equalizer with his own little stable of sorts.

Of course, I've been know to be wrong.