Conspiracy Storyline - KEEP IT ALL IN HERE!

[The Idiot]

This is the beginning of Vince McMahon's "WWF" stable to take back his company. Member #1: Kevin Nash. Who better to go after than the person that pretty much got Vince fired in the first place, CM Punk.

I'm just talkin out of my ass.

 

[nyte_ryder]

With the Christian/Edge angle I knew Edge wasn't going to sit in Christians corner and I had a feeling Randy Orton was going to take back the title. I'll tell you it was a good match, especially the final RKO.

With the final match, that was unpredictable. I never expected Nash to come out at all, but it was a good match as well. Alot of your guy's prediction's make sense, but we will have to see what happens. i'll be waiting!

 

[[cL]]

I'm thoroughly disappointed with the way this ended. Firstly, no one is saying anything about the finish which i'm surprised about. No one cares that Cena's foot was on the rope and the 3 was counted making Cena look good losing? Punk can't win clean against Cena? Why? He won due to outside interefence in Chicago, and now wins due to HHH not seeing Cena's foot on the rope. How come Cena just can't LOSE???
Then, Kevin Nash?
REALLY?
He's got worse legs than the Undertaker, but HE gets the run in?
Someone PLEASE help me understand how this helps the storyline.

The finish sucked, anti climatic, theres a senior citizen run in (i don't care how much color he puts in his hair everybody knows he's in his 50's) and a predictable cash in. So now we have ANOTHER mediocre champion. Seriously. WHO CARES about Del Rio? He had a lot of hype and buzz in the beginning but the more he talked the less interesting he became, and to insert him into the title picture? NOW??? at the height of the some of the best TV WWE has produced? So NOW the WWE title becomes less important because its coming in second to what was the hottest storyline in WWE in recent history. Who cares what happens to your Undisputed Championship now? NOBODY. Everybody wants to know what happens to PUNK.....and how Cena's going to handle not losing clean. Now we throw Del Rio into THAT mix? Stupid. Just plain dumb.

 

[Ohellyea]

BTW I hate people who criticize and call people "Marks" for enjoying the product. It's people like you who can never be pleased because life has handed you nothing but disappointments. If you don't enjoy whats going on then PLEASE STOP watching so we don't have to hear your BITCHING and complaining. It makes me sick.

 

[radec]

ITs to refresh the main event becuase we all know if nothing changes then the cena/punk fued would get stale for next PPV. Del rio will refesh it and give punk and cena more things to do, maybe a triple threat. I see del rio as the sole guy of a new theme here. He will do something with nash. maybe for the short or long run but i see a confrontation soon

 

[RicoLen]

This PPV became predictable when Cena lost by Triple H's mistake which was built up the ENTIRE 3 weeks. WWE plugged it more than the PPV itself.

Fix your grammar, that doesn't even make sense. What are you attempting to say?

I've been the only guy not from this section saying how interesting the product on RAW has become. MITB was the best PPV in the last 5 years but you are a straight up mark if you believe this was a good PPV.

You're actually very right there. I mean don't get me wrong, I'm a Kevin Nash mark, and I LOVED seeing him injected back into the storylines after having been gone since the Royal Rumble. And I can't wait to see more from Kevin Nash & HHH and possibly Stephanie too. But 1 main event doesn't make a whole pay-per-view. The Orton vs Christian feud wasn't bad, but the rest of this card basically sucked from a storytelling standpoint.

While we're on the subject, where is the Young talent WWE keeps pushing? Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler weren't even on the damn card. I forgot the Tag Titles exist.

You're absolutely right about this. I'm sorry but I just don't like a PPV, especially one as supposedly prestigious as Summerslam not having the tag titles, IC title & US title defended. I mean, I saw it coming a mile away, and after they set it up the way they did it certainly didn't make sense to have those titles defended but the whole idea that the IC title is traded 3 nights earlier is just bad.

Whatever though, in the end, it's not that big of a deal, at least not yet. WWE has a LOT of things they need to fix, and PPV's is going to be one of the last of them.

IMO WWE needs to drop some of their PPV's, give people a week off here and their and develop more storylines between PPVs between other characters besides Cena and whoever he's feuding with and one other duo.

 

[I_got_bant_for_idiocy]

I'm thoroughly disappointed with the way this ended. Firstly, no one is saying anything about the finish which i'm surprised about. No one cares that Cena's foot was on the rope and the 3 was counted making Cena look good losing? Punk can't win clean against Cena? Why? He won due to outside interefence in Chicago, and now wins due to HHH not seeing Cena's foot on the rope. How come Cena just can't LOSE???
.

I agree with you 100% about why cant cena fuckin close clean its so annoying same with last years summerslam when he beat nexus 1 year later n we got the same crappy cena who just cant lose and if he does its not clean!!!!! i knew del rio was gonna cash in today but kevin nash showing up didnt c that coming!!! cant wait for tomorrow!!!! steph n nash and hhh all in on it..

 

[itssoeasy123]

Lulz.


It's called overbooking.

This PPV became predictable when Cena lost by Triple H's mistake which was built up the ENTIRE 3 weeks. WWE plugged it more than the PPV itself. That's called being predictable.

1. Cena loses by "controversial" fuck up by Hunter.

2. Kevin Nash buries CM Punk in 3 seconds.

3. Del Rio embarrasses CM Punk in 5 seconds.

It's called overbooking and it's terrible in this regard. Hate to bring another company into this discussion but you allowing WWE to get away with this nonsense is why people don't like it or WWE fans in general. Hypocritical thinking.



Fans that can't admit when WWE does something wrong is exactly why they feed people crap and you never know when to wake up and say no to it.

I've been the only guy not from this section saying how interesting the product on RAW has become. MITB was the best PPV in the last 5 years but you are a straight up mark if you believe this was a good PPV.

While we're on the subject, where is the Young talent WWE keeps pushing? Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler weren't even on the damn card. I forgot the Tag Titles exist.

Is that a new Jim Cornette quote? My favorite is "Fuck This Company"

Actually, the reason why this is so intriguing is becuase these kind of swerves don't happen often in WWE. This was a crazy ending, with a Championship changing hands. The C.O.O. is completely confused at what happened, two people wil want their rematch, and why the fuck was Nash out there? It's a mess, yeah, but it's different. The fans will watch tommorrow night to see what the hell is going to happen.

If this happened in TNA. Well in "Russo World" this kind of stuff happen's every two weeks, it's just boring and overdone. Mostly ever TNA PPV ends will a swerve, or a heel turn.

How in the blue fuck was Punk buried? Why, he got powerbombed by a 7 foot man? I guess Punk can't get beat up now, am I right? He won the initial match, but lost the Championship after being powerbomed by Nash. He wasn't buried, it's what happen's with mostly every MITB winner; a person comes out at the right oppurtunity to win his WWE Championship. CM Punk first MITB cash in was basically the same thing, somebody attacks Champion, MITB winner comes out a wins it.

Oh, and your quote of you are a straight up mark if you believe this was a good PPV. I think this show was very good, so I guess I'm a mark right? The tag match was decent, Barret vs. Bryan was good, Sheamus vs. Henry was awesome, Christian vs. Orton was good, Kelly vs. Beth was entertaining, and the main event was great. It's not being a "mark," it's called "not being bitter over one main event finish."

It's really sad how, if Punk won this PPV would be named the "greatest pay perview of all time!" Punk loses: "shit show!"

 

[itssoeasy123]

I agree with you 100% about why cant cena fuckin close clean its so annoying same with last years summerslam when he beat nexus 1 year later n we got the same crappy cena who just cant lose and if he does its not clean!!!!! i knew del rio was gonna cash in today but kevin nash showing up didnt c that coming!!! cant wait for tomorrow!!!! steph n nash and hhh all in on it..

So Cena didn't lose clean. Oh boo hoo! So I guess it would've made more sense for the top face to lose two straight matches clean to the same guy? Cena getting his foot on the rope only add's more friction to Cena's trust to Triple H, and makes tommorrow night's RAW more interesting.

Am I wrong, or didn't Cena loser clean at MITB? Clean, dirty, unfair, that fact is Cena lost tonight, and Punk was offically the winner.

 

[CarlSinclair]

I think this was what Steph and Hunter were talking about backstage.

I think it will turn out Steph hired Hunter to 'do the right thing for business' because she doesn't see Punk as the 'right thing' where as I think it will turn out Hunter did/does.

It could lead anywhere, and I am just going to enjoy it. It was a nice twist to an awesome storyline.

I am going to love it if at the end it turns out Truth has been on to this conspircy the whole time and isn't a looney toon after all.

Classic PPV and go ending.

 

[PUNKforPresident]

I'm calling it: Mr. H's wasn't responsible for this; Stephanie was. My money is on Stephanie masterminding Punk's downfall, asking Nash (who would obviously be acquainted with her, given his friendship with Hunter) to teach Punk a lesson, and encouraging Del Rio to take advantage of the opportunity. This will set up an interesting angle between HHH, Stephanie, and Nash, with the latter two claiming that they acted in Hunter's best interest. We may just see Del Rio as Stephanie's handpicked golden boy champion (similar to how Vince tried to groom The Rock back in the day). With Vince out of the picture and her husband running things, Stephanie will once again make her presence known in the WWE, bringing along Nash as an enforcer and expecting Hunter to back her up. She might also be revealed as the anonymous RAW GM. That's my prediction, at least. Either way, this is definitely looking interesting.

This is what I'm thinking as well. Punk has been bringing up Stephanies name throughout this entire angle a lot. I mean a shitload. Their was a reason she was on camera tonight and I think you pretty much just summed it up with your prediction. Nash was brought back by Steph.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

i really dont get why nash laid out punk my guess is hes gonna be part of management or hes gonna be a leader of the group to help vince get his power back (i read someone theres gonna be a group of ppl wanting triple h to keep power and another group wanting nash to have the power) so maybe nash leads it? punk should have left summerslam with the wwe title though the fact hes the best thing going in the business right now and they took the title off him makes no sense....anyway im calling it right now the night of champions main event is gonna be John Cena vs CM Punk vs Alberto Del Rio for the WWE Title and let me tell you all now this match is gonna suck punk could make either guy look good but he cant make both look good in the same night

 

[HBK_EDGE]

The IWC at it again. People are calling this predictable really? If you told me a 7 foot plus guy was going to come out and cost Punk the title I would of guessed Andre the Giant before Kevin Nash.

This was a solid 6 match card that delivered with 3 great matches (P/C, H/S, O/C) A great cameo by Edge coming down out of nowhere and an all time great swerve. WWE keeps having you look for the fastball then throws the curve. If you told me coming into tonight Punk would get cashed in on by ADR and lose the title I would say yea predictable. But it is all about the way it happened. People are too results oriented in pro wrestling. It isn't always about what happens it is about the way it happens. The way things are happening in the WWE right now is as good as it has been in a long time.

Buries Punk? We complain about how Super-Cena can never lose but then when Punk drops the title to a MITB winner (like everyone else has) he is buried. He just went over the face of the company twice in PPV main events and he is being buried?

No showcase of young talent Daniel Bryan vs Wade Barrett two future main eventers right there put on a terrific match.

MITB and SS back to back have probably been the best two consecutive PPVs in at least 5 years I find it hard to complain. Sure there are subtle complaints like Booker GTFO the microphone as soon as possible. Miz, Truth, Del Rio (so we thought) only being used in a 6 man tag throw away match.

But why I never post on here is because you can't please the IWC and tonight shows that. It seems like people on here watch not wanting to like the show looking for things to complain about. It started after Raw when people we're all trying to bury the card for only having 5 matches. As Miz would say Really Really? Is it that big of a deal not to have 2 more throwaway midcard matches that noone will even remember two weeks from now?

Have to give WWE creative a lot of credit for being inventive and going to crazy places with their story lines and keeping everyone on their toes. Regardless of if you like it or not credit has to be given because there is beauty in the attempt. Not every story gets over but you have to be willing to take chances and risk and that is what they are doing.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

1. This wasn't predictable. If you're saying you "predicted" what would happen, you're an idiot. No chance in hell you predicted Punk would win with Cena's foot on the rope, HHH would count the 3, Nash would powerbomb the SHIT out of Punk, and Del Rio would win. You DIDN'T KNOW what was going to happen, so please, shut up about it.

2. I love the idea of Nash being involved. I think this is leading to a "Corporation" style screwjob. Who's getting screwed? Cena, Punk, whoever. And NO, this will not lead to a Cena heel turn, so calm down. I'm digging where this is (seemingly) headed.



Oh, and just so we're clear, one last time - SHUT UP about you PREDICTIONS! No one gives a shit.....

 

[Big Sexy]

I've been the only guy not from this section saying how interesting the product on RAW has become. MITB was the best PPV in the last 5 years but you are a straight up mark if you believe this was a good PPV.

Let's see: A fast paced opening 6 man tag, a solid Sheamus/Henry match, a Diva's match that was actually passable, a very good DB/Barrett match, and then two great main events. Sounds like a good ppv to me.

While we're on the subject, where is the Young talent WWE keeps pushing? Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler weren't even on the damn card. I forgot the Tag Titles exist.

Not every young talent can be on every card. With the two main events going so long there was only so much that could fit on the show. The Ziggler/Riley and Rhodes/Zeke matches will likely take place at NOC where they can get more time. I also expect to see the Usos cahllenge for the tag titles at NOC. There just wasn't enough room on the Summerslam card. They still got a lot of younger/newer talent on the show in DB, Barrett, Kofi, ADR, Miz, and Morrison.

 

[HBK_EDGE]

i really dont get why nash laid out punk my guess is hes gonna be part of management or hes gonna be a leader of the group to help vince get his power back (i read someone theres gonna be a group of ppl wanting triple h to keep power and another group wanting nash to have the power) so maybe nash leads it? punk should have left summerslam with the wwe title though the fact hes the best thing going in the business right now and they took the title off him makes no sense....anyway im calling it right now the night of champions main event is gonna be John Cena vs CM Punk vs Alberto Del Rio for the WWE Title and let me tell you all now this match is gonna suck punk could make either guy look good but he cant make both look good in the same night

You have to take the CM Punk colored glasses off. Yes Punk is the best thing going in the business which is why you can take the title off him right now.Putting the title on ADR gives you so many ways you can go creative. If he doesn't have the title it is almost impossible to put anyone else in the Main Event other than Punk and Cena with the state of the roster.

Punk doesn't need the title he is over af right now without the title. ADR needs it to be relevant right now. I believe there is a reason they had Punk go over clean on ADR Monday night on Raw last week and that will to play in the story line. Believe it or not this loss puts Punk over even more. If Punk walked out clean tonight where do they go with the story?

 

[ahoyhoy]

Del Rio as Steph's champ, Nash as their bodyguard, maybe throw in Otunga/Hennig to make it a stable. Allows HHH, Cena AND Punk to be babyfaces, opens up the story (look at Smackdown to see how dragging out a 1v1 situation can dull the senses), gives them more going into a Mexico tour when Rey is injured...

But whoever said "4 title changes in a month, Booker T allowed to speak on tv and a Nash run in = welcome back dying days of WCW" is on the money. I was so excited about where they were heading but now I just have my fingers crossed this works out.

#iwantwrestling
#bookertistheinsanedustycommentaryof2011
#bookertgotabicycle

 

[Shark'Od]

I am loving this storyline and adding Kevin Nash to the mix just makes it better. Will be better if Nash says nothing for a couple of weeks but continue to make appearances .I do think that he is allied with HHH and HHH did not want punk or cena as champion so he told Nash to attack who ever won, so that covers the the finish of the match. I also think giving the title to Del Rio is good because the thing between hhh , punk, cena now you can add Nash and even stephine into the mix, all this does not need the WWE title it is getting bigger then that it started out about the title but now it's more and it's awesome I'm hooked on every match and twist about the story at the moment

 

[TM Punk]

R truth doesn't sound so crazy now does he? I think it had to have been stephanie hiring nash because she felt it was the right thing. Or maybe it was vince trying throw a wrench in HHH's operation. Whatever it is, it makes for some compelling tv tomorrow night!!! I had no expectations for this summerslam other than the main even, and I feel like it delivered. That's all we can really ask right? What a night!!!

 

[blkshp]

1st, SummerSlam wasn't as good as MiTB, but it wasn't a bad show. Let me say this though: Dizzy, you're a TNA mark. That's fine because I can watch TNA as well as WWE, but I see you and Zion going on and on and on...and on about "correcting" WWE marks, pumping up almost every TNA angle and claiming TNA has the best talent, yada, yada, yada. You point out everything people say bad about TNA and tell them they're wrong, yet you troll on WWE boards doing the exact same thing. Kinda hypocritical don't you think?

Anyway, the WWE rarely has all of their titles on the line at the same time (the one time they do is Night of Champions), so if they do that at every ppv, then wouldn't in make NOC irrelevant? Now as for the actual ppv, I actually like less matches on the card because every match gets more time. The 6 man tag was added at the last minute and was ok, nothing groundbreaking. Sheamus vs. Henry did its job, which is to get Henry over as an unstoppable monster. I'm sure Sheamus will get his revenge on SD! I was surprised to see Kelly Kelly retain, but its a Divas match so, it is what it is. Wade Barrett needed and got a win over DB.

Now I want to say something about the WHC match and the whole Christian/Orton rivalry, I think its been a pretty good one. The sad thing is, I don't think enough fans appreciate what these 2 have done because of all the Orton hatred, but these guys have busted their asses to tell their story, and I hope fans will appreciate that at some point. As for the WWE title match, it was solid. As for the ending which is getting all the attention: Cena did not lose "clean" enough for some people, now really...WHO GIVES A SHIT?

A loss is a loss is a loss, and CM Punk is 2-0 vs Cena in title matches. Just like Miz is 1-0 vs. Cena at WM. Cena is the top guy and they want to keep him at the top and strong leading up to his match with the Rock. I was just happy to see Punk win...now the Nash attack was unexpected, the Del Rio cash in wasn't (to me anyway) after the Nash beatdown. Now to get to the point of "overbooking"(I'm looking at you again Dizzy) I wouldn't call this overbooking IF all of these situations are eventually cashed in.

People say TNA (specifically Russo) overbook because they run constant swerve after swerve that often times don't make much sense and sometimes never go anywhere. Does that happen in WWE? Absolutely, just not as much. If anything the WWE tends to underbook and rely on the status quo too often, maybe that's starting to change, we'll see. But yeah, ill be watching Raw to see why Nash did what he did, if Triple H, Steph or Johnny Ace set this up, and what Cena and Punk's next moves are.

Even Del Rio holding the belt under these circumstances instantly elevates his stock, despite the out of left field hating on him (he can wrestle, he's decent on the mic, he has a good gimmick, he does a good job of being a despicable heel, what's the problem?) There's potential for unpredictability and in the end isn't that what people have been begging the WWE for anyway? Just can't please people I guess.

 

[AngryCenaFan]

Im happy seeing Nash back, I think ADR with his "money" paid him off to be his bodyguard.
But Cena/CM Punk have brought value back to the WWE title, and for neither to walk out with it, is a travesty

 

[911 JP]

Bare with me on this but this may just be the perfect way to reveal Kevin Nash as the Mystery GM. Have him not be happy about Punk winning the title so he took matters into his own hands and blew his cover, therefore he will more than likely reveal himself tomorrow. Just a thought.

But I believe that there is something bigger than any of us understand at the moment, just good to see him back now!

 

[WTK]

I was shocked to see Kevin Nash tonight.. He had been MIA since The Royal Rumble, so it was a huge shocker for me. I cant wait to see what happens with Nash and Punk, should be great promos from the 2 face to face, as both are really good on the mic. Idk about you guys, but wasn't that the best damn Jackknife Powerbomb from Nash in years?.. Cant wait for RAW tomorrow night.

 

[streicher187]

would like to think Nash was the GM (hired by vince before he was fired) but maybe he is just hired by ADR as a bodyguard like he was with Shawn Micheals. I think bodyguard would be a great way to keep Nash on tv and could even lead to a Nash/ADR vs Punk/Cena tag match.

 

[bradtech519]

Just wanted to stop by and say this is awesome.. I haven't really enjoyed WWE in a long long time. Ever since Punk did what he did I've been hooked. I have watched TNA mainly because they had guys like Nash, Sting, and then grew to enjoy the younger talent.. The last thing I ever expected tonight was to see Kevin Nash (my fav guy from the 90s) run down, and do what he did.. Something has changed with WWE booking/storyline telling.. The whole Cena Superman thing sucked so bad for the longest time.. WWE has no eclipsed TNA big time for me.. I know many of you may always thought TNA was crap but this was the deal breaker.. I can't for WWE Raw tomorrow.