All Future Wrestlemania Discussion (Matches, Gimmicks, Angles.... KEEP IT IN HERE!)

[Iversen]

I agree with Punk, you dont have to hvae Del Rio break the streak, but if Taker is healthy enough let him have a losing streak against Del Rio going into WM starting from or after the Rumble so people will think hey Del Rio has owned the Undertaker maybe the Undertaker is too old and cant go anymore. Make Undertaker look old and weak in those matches so the fans themselves have some doubt. This way the match at WM can go either way depending how it builds.

Right now people are saying you have to have an established guy break the streak now I ask you where is the shock value in that, there is no payoff.If it was Cena to break the streak all hell would break loose from the IWC. If anyone should break the streak it should be someone fresh. A fresh Heel who will use breaking the streak as something he will use to gain heat and put down the others who couldnt do it. ADR already walks with his nose up at people so it would go perfect with his character.
Imagine ADR breaks the streak and HHH comes to congratulate him or talk to him in anyway and ADR just blows him off saying he did what HHH couldn't do what Shawn Michaels couldn't do. you think he wouldnt get reactions then or be placed in superstar status.
I dont think they will ever break it but if they do it should be with a new up and coming star.
The person who compared Morrison to ADR is foolish, Morrison sucks, yes he has in ring talent but the guy cant draw ( and he has the perfect HBK 2.0 look ) but he is so bland once he opens his mouth. Take away Melina and MNM would be in TNA right now. Morrison is Marty Jeanetty to the Miz's HBK. The IWC needs to stop asking for Morrison look at all his matches they are only good because the person he is facing builds it up so good. Sorry to bring up my anti Morrison stuff on this thread but come on people the guy is more bland than white bread

How do you know Morrison can't draw? Has he been given a chance to prove he can draw? Has Del Rio proven he can? Take out the fact he's Mexican, and he's even being out done there by Sin Cara, and no there's nothing to say he can or can't. Such a bullshit reason to claim someone won't make it. The very fact you say he has a great look and is good in the ring and yet go on to say that makes it even more baffling.

I wouldn't give the streak to Del Rio it's too big for any one person to break now I think. Where would they go next? No what I'd do is let him face Taker at Mania lose but have it be Takers final appearance. Retiring Taker even if you don't beat him is a rub and a half.

 

[ray kidman]

i really dont care how it ends but it been going for far to long just think of all the ppl he faced at the mania and only a few have came close i think randy orton should have ended it back at w.m 21

 

[dcarson108]

You act like The Streak is something other than a wrestling angle. How exactly is the WWE supposed to make money on The Streak when The Undertaker is retired? The idea that they should concerned about "blemishing" the Streak is ridiculous when, crowd support or not, anyone with eyes can see Alberto del Rio is a star in the making. He would benefit hugely from the rub, much more than anyone in the company.

Thank you. The streak is something special. I cannot for the life of me understand why so many people are in love with the streak. Many of the opponets have not been great superstars (Snuka (at the time of the match), Goanzales, Mark Henry, A-Train, etc.) and if anything has just hurt the predicitabiity of the matches. Since the ybegan speaking about the streak (I think it was Wrestlemania 19 but correct me if I'm wrong) there have only been two times where I felt there was any chance Taker would lose. At Wrestlemania 21 against Orton and this year against HHH. And against HHH I didn't think there was a chance until HHH hit him with the tombstone.

With that said, it's a good thing people care so much. It means WWE is doing their job. But I feel it would be a waste for it not too end. Wrestling is about putting people over. And beating the Undertaker would certainly put someone over. But on the otherside, I do understand why people believe it should stay. Looking back at Taker's career, this is his biggest accomplishment. His career certainly wouldn't be tarnished if he lossed at Mania, but he would lose what is believed to be his greatest accoplishment.

If the streak is to end, it shouldn't be simply for putting someone over. It has to be bigger than that. It has to represent something huge. Putting Del Rio over would be good for Del Rio, but how much more would the company gain? It's safe to say Del Rio is going to be a star regardless if he beats Taker at Mania or not. Del Rio going over Taker at Mania hurts Taker's legacy more than it would help Del Rio. Not to get too far off topic, but an example I would use on how Taker could lose at Mania is to have Cena cheat to beat him. That is doing something simply more than putting a young guy over. That would be the start of a huge change in the company. I know a lot of people might initially not like that idea, but what better way to get a guy heat from all types of fans? And this isn't just a turn. This would be one of the biggest turns in the history of the company.

I'm not saying that's how Taker's streak should end. I'm saying if it were to end, it should be along those lines. Not simply putting a young guy over for the sake of putting him over.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Does anyone seriously think that the WWE would pomp and parade Taker's streak just to end it at 20? Right before he is set to retire?

We have these kinda threads a lot so basically I must put it very firmly as to how averse I am to responding again and again. to such a seemingly innocent query or opinion by the OP:
If Jesus came down and eliminated Undertaker from the 2012 Royal Rumble starting a three month main eventesque feud leading upto a match at WrestleMania, our saviour would still job to the Deadman.

There is no other I can say this but : THE UNDERTAKER WILL NEVER EVER LOSE AT WRESTLEMANIA. Some of the posters(usually the ones who are much educated or have spent a vast fortune on tapes) are the ones who bring to light the fact that there is no point in watching a Taker/WM match because Taker will win no doubt. Please don't moan so much because for goodness sake his matches can be defined as a special attraction on the bill and he isn't exactly Hulk Hogan in the ring, the man can do spots and isn't a walking botchfest. So I see no disillusion to his imminent win at the next WM, maybe against Cena, most prolly. I'd love to see The Phenom do the Five Knuckle Shuffle.

 

[iwinulose]

to end takers streak is a spit in the face to taker and the real talent (so basically not del rio) who have tried to end it. del rio isnt the guy who should be allowed to end it. he is poor in-ring and his mic *skills* put me to sleep. plus taker has worker hard to make this streak so ending it would be a spit in the face. so no del rio shouldnt be allowed to break the streak. no one should for that matter

 

[Negrodamus]

To Iversen:

How is it baffling to you that I say a guy has the perfect look and in ring ability but does not draw. Hence the quote of calling him Janetty to Miz's HBK. Janetty had an amazing look was great in the ring but where did that get him, his name only gets brought up if people talk about HBK's past. His promo to steal R-Truths spot was just boring and dry and that does not draw. Miz who has half of what Morrison has in everyway but on the mic and he is the next face of the company. For Morrison to relevant he needs a mouthpiece and they should bring back Melina to help.
Thats just it Morrison has a great entrance puts on good matches but the second his matches are over you have completely forgot he was on the card. te second he opens his mouth just ruins his look. He should be like HBK have that A list attitude they gave him when he first came out, but look what he did with it.
Sorry again for going off topic but had to defend my opinion.
back on subject though if Taker is to lose the streak it should not be from an established star IMO they are already established, why a guy like ADR or another new up and coming star should be the one would be to give him the ultimate rub and it would put him right away on the tip of peoples tounges be it positive or negative. Imagine the heat they get on Raw the next night especially if it was broken by cheating. They could talk about that forever just like Jericho talks about beating the Rock and SCSA on the same night.
The problem with IWC opinions and storylines is that they are good for one off matches or feuds but then thats it nothing after for the character to build on.

 

[Sleep Time]

I personally think that the streak is to big for anyone, even the Undertaker himself. WWE takes a lot of pride in this as they garner many sports attention towards this streak and I think Alberto Del Rio will never take the Undertaker's streak.

 

[billm75]

For anyone to break the streak, they would need to start a story line by Summer Slam and really build it into something special. With their ADHD approach to story lines and feuds, do you really see that happening?

Think about it for a minute. This is promoted as THE SINGLE greatest streak in all of wrestling. It's pushed ahead of Championship reigns, it's pushed ahead of championship matches, it's simply the end all, be all of Wrestlemania. Wrestlmania guys, the most watched event of the year. The one that WWE compares to the Superbowl for god's sake.

To end the streak, they need a storyline that will carry throughout the buildup to WM28. It's not going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if HHH is the one who wrestles against Taker in his final WM victory. They might add some kind of stipulation, some kind of gimmick, hell, even bring out a bunch of interference from other wrestlers to try to make it completely over the top. However, Taker will reign supreme, come out victorious and be treated like royalty for about 2 weeks following WM as he does his retirement tour.

It's quite possible that Taker's next match will be his last match, and that will happen at WM 28 where he keeps the streak in tact, a record to be chased but never equaled again. Vince can make plenty of money off of that alone. Let's go with ADR for a minute (for staying on topic a little).

ADR lost his first WM match, and he's a young guy. He manages to get over with the crowd soon and becomes a much revered or hated performer. He begins winning every WM match from 28 forward...as he approaches 10 wins, they drag out the Undertaker to do a promo or two and start breathing down his neck as he tries to equal Taker's accomplishment....bam! Instant money from the streak. It's easy.

 

[Seanjburkey]

I have to agree with you sleep time. There is nobody who I can see beating Taker at Mania and it being acceptable. I think the WWE's last chance at ending Taker's streak in an acceptable way was against Shawn. 20-0 seems inevitable.

 

[FSWWE]

Undertaker streak shouldn't be ended, but if they want to do it Alberto Del Rio is the right choice for me.
How good it could be to ADR if he faces off Undertaker in his last match?
I really hope that Alberto del Rio vs Undertaker happens!!

Or - Drew McIntyre vs Undertaker - Please DO IT!!! Drew McIntyre should be a upper mid card right now!!

 

[reddevil69]

You act like The Streak is something other than a wrestling angle. How exactly is the WWE supposed to make money on The Streak when The Undertaker is retired? The idea that they should concerned about "blemishing" the Streak is ridiculous when, crowd support or not, anyone with eyes can see Alberto del Rio is a star in the making. He would benefit hugely from the rub, much more than anyone in the company, other than a retired Mark Calloway, benefits from him not putting over a new talent on his way out.

how do you know that Taker won't come out of retirement for "one more match" at Mania a few years after he retires, (if he does retire after next year's Mania)?

it is not unlikely that he couldn't work one match at a big event if Vince wanted him to. Once the streak is ended, that's it, you have nowhere left to go.

From a business standpoint I think you leave that option open. Rock came back this year and is set for a big match next year, Hogan came back for a big Mania payday and Bret Hart did as well.

If Taker was to come back, you want him to be the guy that nobody ever defeated at Wrestlemania.

Business wise it makes absolute sense. Respect wise and for his tenure in the company and loyalty to WWF/E, I don't see Taker ever losing at WM....if 28 is his final tolling of the bell, he's going out on top, down on one knee, classic pose, eyes rolled back, tongue hanging out amidst a shower of fireworks, 20-0

He went out on his back this year, that is not the last memory that will be left of him when he decides to call it a career. Vince has too much respect for the character and for the man who portrays it.

 

[ringjobber1]

Everybody knows this is most likely Undertakers last match which means its the most important, so I believe the person who face taker will be a legend hear are the legends I could see facing undertaker

HHH:- its been said that triple h was challenging him to a round2 so who knows maybe this time it could be shawn michaels as the ref

Stone Cold Steve Austin: this guy has been teasing a last match for some time now and this match can steal the show for sure two legends bigger then wrestlemania itself.

Kane: technically they have unfinished buisness kane beat undertaker in a burried alive match surprisingly because undertaker losing that match made him look week especialy because kane went from that much glory to teaming with Big Show and jobbing to wade barrett. if they push Kane to the sky again I can see this being possible

 

[GarethThyer]

All this talk about retiring are just rumours. I do believe we'll see him before the year is out.

Wrestlemania 28 his last match? Simple answer... NO.... why?

CENA VS. ROCK thats why

WWE are going to build WM28 around Cena/Rock, so that would overshadow 'Takers retirement. Thats not going to happen. Whenever Mark does retire, then the WWE are going to make a big deal about it, trust me. They'll be teasing it for a long time.

So basically it would be a bad idea for 'Taker to "retire" next year at Mania because of Cena/Rock. I'm not being big headed or anything, of course 'Takers health is the main concern. When 'Taker does retire then the WWE will make that the highlight of the night, not being overshadowed by a match.

Agreed?

 

[rickfoxoclock]

i just saw the promo for the Wrestlemania Dvd and i started wondering about what if the WWE doesn't want to end the streak but let someone take the Undertaker to the brink, and have a draw. A double countout where Undertaker and his opponent can't keep going. I think that allows Taker to keep his undefeated streak but it also allows him help put over someone. Make it a hell in the cell match or a buried alive match where both competitors get buried. i just think it's more interesting that way. with the schedule that Taker is working nowadays it also allows the other competitor to build off of that without interference from Taker but then it also allows for Taker to have one last mind games storyline before he retires. thoughts?

 

[mykeymayhem]

On the current roster who would you like to see beat taker at wrestlemania?
I know no one will so don't flood this with no one replies.

My choice is Cody Rhodes. He has a pretty dark gimmick going right now maybe taker can even take him under his wing for a while before mania and than he can turn on taker leading to the match. It would have to be a casket or buried alive match as symbolism that it's the last match for taker and to add excitement factor.

 

[reed214]

this thread has been done, and i thought everyone agreed that there wont be anyone on this current roster to beat him at Mania. sorry but i think you will get a lot of "no one" replies.

to say cody rhodes will beat a Legend and his most important achievement in wrestling is laughable. he is not even main event talent (maybe one day) and there is no connection with the Taker. the only person that would have the shot at ending the streak is Kane. for something *huge* like that to happen, you need someone with a lot of history and i think he's been beaten twice by the undertaker, so a third match would be rediculous,even if there was a third match with HBK. no point.

but i will play along and say i would like to see Randy do it if anybody, but not this Randy. i want the crazy heel Randy to stalk the Taker for months leading up to a rematch between the two. but it will never happen...and should never happen

 

[xoxo French Kiss xoxo]

Anyone on the roster who is younger, quicker, and stronger than the Undertaker. Thats 90% of the active wrestlers. His time has past, and its time for him to retire.

If he's getting taken out by a younger talent it needs to be someone that can use the push to go to the moon. Needs to be a mega heel, Del Rio, Ziggler, Rhodes, maybe Ryder?

 

[CelticCorey]

I want to see an upper midcard heel get the nod to elevate them. Not someone just out of the blue but also someone who is established and has credibility. I would prefer if C.M. Punk, Sheamus or Wade Barrett ended the streak. Any of those three would be bad ass in doing so. I think it would've been epic if C.M. Punk or Wade Barrett did it but the way WWE booked the Nexus and the Corre, that's a huge problem sadly.

 

[Carpathian Florist]

I still think it should be Kane who defeats Undertaker at Wrestlemania, as a proper blow off to their entire storyline, it should be Kane's crowning moment and his retirement from wrestling as well. I would like to see it be a buried alive match and as Kane stands victorious over the grave of Undertaker, his hand shoots up through the dirt and drags Kane down there with him and once he's disappeared the entire grave becomes engulfed in fire as Paul Bearer approaches and leaves the urn to melt in the flames, then extinguishes it with implied holy water to end both characters in WWE once and for all.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

No one.

This roster doesn't have anyone who could/should defeat Taker at Mania. I don't think there's a roster in the history of professional wrestling with someone who could/should defeat Taker at Mania.

Why should someone beat Taker at Mania? For the rub? A rub is a rub, and they can get the same result by beating him at Summerslam, or Survivor Series. If Taker were to lose at Mania, The Streak wouldn't mean as much as it does right now. As a result of that, the win wouldn't mean all that much either, in the long run, of course. In the short term, it would be a big deal, no question. However, is a short-term rub worth ending The Streak? The answer is a resounding no.

 

[quink987]

ok since its Rock vs John Cena at Wrestlemania 28 what do you think is going to be the selling point for the next 2 Wrestlemania's because WM18 had Rock/Hogan one of the biggest dream matches in history then WM19 was the best WM ever then WM20 had Lesner/Goldberg(it was shit I Know) the return of the Rock and the best Triple Threat match ever and then at WM21 we had the rise of Batista and John Cena and for me a 5 star match between Undertaker/Orton so if history was to repeat itself Wrestlemania 29 should be better then Wrestlemania 28 and Wrestlemania 30 should be off the hook!!

I know Im jumping the gun but what do you think will be the Selling point for the next 2 Wrestlemania's and bear in mind in 2 years time it will be Wrestlemania 30, 30 years of Vince McMahon's greatest Creation?

for me I think Wrestlemania 29's selling point will be 2 matches, here me out here I think its going to be Randy Orton vs John Cena because WWE will keep Orton on Smackdown and build him how they built Batista and have Orton/Cena meet each other at next year's WM because its the 2 biggest babyface's in the WWE.

the second will be Undertaker vs The Rock ok i know it's out their but I think the Rock will proberly want to compete again if the money's right and a Rock/Taker match at WM would be pretty awesome.

ok Wrestlemania 30 the big one, I think it's going to be Undertaker vs John Cena as the big selling point for this Wrestlemania and maybe having Stone Cold Steve Austin involved with the PPV in some way hopefully a match

so what do you guys think.

WE HAVE A WrestleMania 28 FORUM. However, if you want to talk WrestleMania outside of that forum, this is the only thread where you can do so. Thanks.

-Staff

 

[nebyelkao]

Undertaker barely made it through wrestlemania 27 and as it said in one of the columns, most people backstage in the WWE believe Undertaker is retired. That doesnt mean he wont wrestle again because he will, but make the most of the chances we get to see him because the most likely thing is that we probably wont see him until near Wrestlemania 28 which will see him go 20 - 0 and retire, which will lead to him being inducted into the HOF at either WM29 or WM30

 

[The Chosen One of WZ]

Its oviously way too soon to make guesses because we don't know what the roster will look like in a year let alone two years but I'll play along.

WM 28 will be Undertakers last match without a doubt so he wont be involved.

WM 29 I'd go with Cena vs. Orton and WM 30 is impossible to make a guess on cause so many things can change in two and a half years time.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Unless you're Mystic Meg you're unable to predict the future, therefore nobody knows. Within the time span between now and Wrestlemania 30, Vince McMahon could pass, someone within WWE could pass, a new face could be established and the whole product could change.

 

[MMK]

Here are my safe predictions for Wrestlemania 29 and 30: Watch John Cena overcome the odds again for your hard earned money. Every Wrestlemania, only on PPV!

(I better not get an "infraction" for posting a reply that doesnt meet Wrestlezones high standards. Honestly, the rod up some of these moderators asses must have a rod up its ass.)

And yeah, I know the popular thing to do is to always rip on Cena, but the fact is it's just such a lame character I can't avoid it. The reason The Rock's ripping into Cena was so damn funny, was because it was true. His character is soooo played. Cena VS Rock will be good only because of Rock's involvement, although frankly I'd rather see Rock lock up one more time with Austin, Jericho, or Taker. Or even Orton. Two third generation stars who were constantly in the shadow of someone else (austin/cena). The stipulation could be "Loser gets his horrible tattoos removed".