All Future Wrestlemania Discussion (Matches, Gimmicks, Angles.... KEEP IT IN HERE!)

[Wolf Pac]

I ain't sure about WM 29 but maybe Austin vs. Cena? Austin did say his neck is 100%, so he can compete and Cena does follow in the footsteps of Hogan & Austin as the biggest draw of the company. I honestly feel Austin vs. Cena is more of a dream matchup than Rock vs. Cena is but since Rock vs. Cena is next year, they can have Austin vs. Cena the next year. It would be smart booking to book the #2 guy of the Attitude Era the first year against Cena, Cena could overcome him, start bragging about beating him and act like he's better than the Attitude Era guys on that victory alone then the top dog of the Attitude Era comes out and challenges him for next year.

As far as WM 30 goes, that's much harder to predict but I can make a good guess. WM 10 & WM 20 had two Canadian wrestlers go onto win the World Title in the main event, coincidence? I don't know which Canadian wrestler they would pick to win the World Title if WWE decide to continue that trend at WM 30. I wouldn't say Christian seeing as Vince clearly doesn't believe in him to carry the company, I would've said Edge if he were still here but whichever Canadian they pick, I say WM 30 should be held in the Rogers Center in Toronto, Canada instead of Madison Square Garden but that's only if they continue the trend.

 

[GW_Hart86]

ok since its Rock vs John Cena at Wrestlemania 28 what do you think is going to be the selling point for the next 2 Wrestlemania's because WM18 had Rock/Hogan one of the biggest dream matches in history then WM19 was the best WM ever then WM20 had Lesner/Goldberg(it was shit I Know) the return of the Rock and the best Triple Threat match ever and then at WM21 we had the rise of Batista and John Cena and for me a 5 star match between Undertaker/Orton so if history was to repeat itself Wrestlemania 29 should be better then Wrestlemania 28 and Wrestlemania 30 should be off the hook!!

I know Im jumping the gun but what do you think will be the Selling point for the next 2 Wrestlemania's and bear in mind in 2 years time it will be Wrestlemania 30, 30 years of Vince McMahon's greatest Creation?

for me I think Wrestlemania 29's selling point will be 2 matches, here me out here I think its going to be Randy Orton vs John Cena because WWE will keep Orton on Smackdown and build him how they built Batista and have Orton/Cena meet each other at next year's WM because its the 2 biggest babyface's in the WWE.

the second will be Undertaker vs The Rock ok i know it's out their but I think the Rock will proberly want to compete again if the money's right and a Rock/Taker match at WM would be pretty awesome.

ok Wrestlemania 30 the big one, I think it's going to be Undertaker vs John Cena as the big selling point for this Wrestlemania and maybe having Stone Cold Steve Austin involved with the PPV in some way hopefully a match

so what do you guys think.

I don't think you can even guess what the matches will be on either card...it is far too far away, but one thing I think you are very naive and mistaken about is The Undertaker going any further than WM28. It is physically impossible for him and above all else...would make no sense for him. Everyone gotta call it a day somewhere...even the "DEADMAN"...and WM28 would be a great end to a great story.

 

[mral82]

Stone Cold is retire you dopes, he stated yeah he could possible go but he has the same condition as Adam "Edge" Copeland and 1 move could paralyze the Rattlesnake which would suck. WM 29 or 30 will be Taker's 20th victim not next year as he needs a couple of years to re-charge like HBK did so that he came come back better. I think this whole Christian thing is a work and he'll be World champ again if not this year then I think it'll be at Mania against the Rising Cody Rhodes who I think will de-throne Orton. WM 29 if in Canada will be Christian winning the WWE HW or World Championship against whoever the champ is then. As far as Marquee match I think Chris Jericho vs Randy Orton/The Miz. 30 I have no idea.

 

[Pepperami]

I think a better question would be who will be the main players heading into WrestleMania 29 and 30.

Alberto Del Rio has made a great impact so far, and when he eventually makes his face turn, he'll be even bigger. I say Del Rio vs Randy Orton at WM29, Del Rio defending the WHC. Cena could run against whoever has developed during that previous year, much like The Miz.

WM30 is a tough one. We'll see new faces and the landscape will be totally different, so even guessing is a long shot. Cody Rhodes is going the right way to becoming something more, so have him win the Rumble and challenge for the WWE title. Miz maybe?
I'd also like to see Cena and Orton square off again. A couple of years would be plenty of time to want to see it again.

 

[kizarny]

I think without a doubt wrestlemania 29 will be headlined by Cena vs. the Undertaker. that is one of their last few "superfight" matches and they are running out of time to do it. while I am not a professional wrestler, I dont think two matches will kill 'taker. they could even book him a feeder at wrestlemania 28 because they already have rock/cena to draw that card, and do not have to risk the Undertakers health. the match would be huge considering if anyone had the star power like HHH or HBK, it is John Cena. and since he's superman, you never know. personally i would like cena to start planting the seeds of a heel turn with his rock feud, culminating in the biggest heel turn of all time by ending the streak, but that's a different argument for a different thread. ( I know I am going to get blasted for that because a lot of ppl on this forum are MARKS for the streak).

as for wrestlemania 30, I can see it a couple ways. IF they had cena face taker at 29, and cena went over, (and taker is still breathing) wwe can milk the biggest rematch ever. undertakers last match against the one man that could beat him at mania. but since that is unlikely, I can see them going to the well with Cena and Orton. it is one of the biggest rivalries of this generation and they could change it up with a face orton/heel cena (i really think by mania 29, or at the latest 30, cena will have begun some sort of heel turn).

 

[WooWooWoo1999]

I would be shocked if Taker makes it through WM28. He's getting very old and his gimmick has (IMO) become stale and boring. I can see another very special WM host but other than that I don't really think anything to special will go down.

 

[therockisback!!!]

I ain't sure about WM 29 but maybe Austin vs. Cena? Austin did say his neck is 100%, so he can compete and Cena does follow in the footsteps of Hogan & Austin as the biggest draw of the company. I honestly feel Austin vs. Cena is more of a dream matchup than Rock vs. Cena is but since Rock vs. Cena is next year, they can have Austin vs. Cena the next year. It would be smart booking to book the #2 guy of the Attitude Era the first year against Cena, Cena could overcome him, start bragging about beating him and act like he's better than the Attitude Era guys on that victory alone then the top dog of the Attitude Era comes out and challenges him for next year.

As far as WM 30 goes, that's much harder to predict but I can make a good guess. WM 10 & WM 20 had two Canadian wrestlers go onto win the World Title in the main event, coincidence? I don't know which Canadian wrestler they would pick to win the World Title if WWE decide to continue that trend at WM 30. I wouldn't say Christian seeing as Vince clearly doesn't believe in him to carry the company, I would've said Edge if he were still here but whichever Canadian they pick, I say WM 30 should be held in the Rogers Center in Toronto, Canada instead of Madison Square Garden but that's only if they continue the trend.

What Will Happen first
1st we all know Wrestlemania is Madison Square Garden and will always have every 10th mania there because of the history and the fact that it all started there 27 years ago and they cant do it any other way.

2nd of all Undertaker will be in the HOF 2013 at Wrestlemania 30. After Losing To Cena at Wrestlemania 29 making it 20-1, thats if he dont lose to Cena next year if Cena vs Rock Dont Happen.

3rd Macho Man HOF Wrestlemania 28 inductee. This is a complete No Brainer too me. But lets face it he would be going in the year after if he didnt die.

4th The Rock will be the second ballot hall of fame to Macho Man next Year. i Just cant see the rock being the headline too one of the true legends in the Wrestling World

5th Edge and Trish will be first ballot the year after next year for the hall of fame if Wrestlemania goes to Toronto that is.

6th We Will not see The Undertaker as an in-ring preformer at Wrestlemania 30 and depending on how the next mania goes im not counting on seeing him at 29 either.

7th R-Truth has made possibly the greatest heel turn since the Hogan one. And i think there could be a championship down the road for him i hope. I cant wait to see how this Cena-Truth Feud plays out. And he might be a future Wrestlemania Headliner.

8th I wanna see Austin vs Cena and it will be a very good match if u add Jericho vs Miz too that i think it might be a great Wrestlemania if it happens. But Austin v Cena would not be bigger then Rock v Cena

9th i really really hope to see this A Riley-Miz Feud plays out till The Next mania because thats a possible show stealer.

 

[kor420]

I want to see an upper midcard heel get the nod to elevate them. Not someone just out of the blue but also someone who is established and has credibility. I would prefer if C.M. Punk, Sheamus or Wade Barrett ended the streak. Any of those three would be bad ass in doing so. I think it would've been epic if C.M. Punk or Wade Barrett did it but the way WWE booked the Nexus and the Corre, that's a huge problem sadly.

^^this^^
Taker will loose at WM. Why in the hell would VKM let someone with so much star power such as the undertaker walk out undefeated at WM and not pass the torch to another upcoming star to replace the undertaker. The person that defeats the undertaker, career will get shot to the moon. It should be a upper midcard heel get the nod and shouldn't be kane, cena or big show. The only people i see worthy of getting this type of push that is currently C.M. Punk(if he would stay) or Sheamus.

If undertaker retires undefeated at WM, then i call the undertaker selfish.

 

[Poop Master Flex]

Taker has stated he doesn't care if the streak continues or not, calling Taker selfish is BS as the guy has help put over and mold some of the big superstars today (look at Randy Orton as an example).

The problem here is there is no reason having him lose the streak to someone who cannot capitalize on the momentum. For example, Sheamus is nowhere NEAR the level most people think he is, he has never put 1 butt in any seat in any arena, because he doesn't DRAW (key word there) he shouldn't be the one given the nod to end the streak., same with Wade Barrett. Also there is no reason having him lose the streak to someone like Cena or Orton because in the long run it wouldn't do anything for them, if Cena broke the streak it would cause a major backlash.

There is an extreme lack of young drawing power in the WWE and the few young guys that can draw don't need a victory to help solidify their status as a top guy AND a draw.

I'm all for taker losing but honestly I don't see anyone on the roster currently that deserves such a privilege. If you got a big star that NEEDS the victory to make him a top star (note said person has to have AT LEAST some drawing power) and solidify his status then by all means do it.

You only pass the torch to the truly worthy and at this point no one is.

 

[Good Golly It's Ollie]

Anyone on the roster who is younger, quicker, and stronger than the Undertaker. Thats 90% of the active wrestlers. His time has past, and its time for him to retire.

If he's getting taken out by a younger talent it needs to be someone that can use the push to go to the moon. Needs to be a mega heel, Del Rio, Ziggler, Rhodes, maybe Ryder?

1) "It's time for him to retire".
Yes, I agree, but I don't want him to. This guy started wrestling before I was born. I've been watching Undertaker since I was 7. He is a legend but I worry for his sake and his health more than anything else.

2) On the issue of "younger talent"
Well, everyone on the roster is younger than UT ... I believe he's one of the few guys who should be allowed to retire on a win. I'm still not 100% sure but I think I'd like Undertaker's streak to remain intact. I know that means no-one's going over him, but I'm just a massive mark at this stage.

3)Those guys a.k.a the current favourites
I don't think Undertaker should lose, but if he were to do so I say only someone like Austin or some ridiculous shit like that should be beating him. Not Jericho, not Triple H. Hell, Shawn Michaels didn't go over him, and as much as I love Jericho and Helmsley, why the hell should they if HBK didn't?

Now as for these young ones, del Rio, Rhodes, Ziggler and Ryder. They're all good, each in different ways, but at this stage in their careers I don't think any of them deserve even a place in that match given how much elevation it's been given over the past few years.

 

[THEpapachamp]

RANDY ORTON!

ok.. ok.. ok.. I know, I hate the man too and he's the number #1 reason Christian isn't World Heavywieght Champion and why SmackDown will forever be show #2 but Randy Orton SHOULD be the man to end the Undertaker's streak and career. Let me explain why..

Randy Orton in the eyes of Vince Mcmahon is his #2 go to guy, his Macho Man of this PG era. But yet the fans see him as a VERY low #2 compared to Cena. If anything can make Randy Orton a top #2 or even battle Cena as #1 it would be ending Undertaker's streak and having Undertaker pass the torch over to Orton.

If the WWE wants to continue with Orton as a serious top face of the company it should happen on a business point of view. Nothing else can be done, not even Orton beating Cena one on one.

I know it's been done before with Orton losing but Orton was nowhere near a top main event tier when they first met at Wrestlemania and I believe Orton could carry Undertaker thru a very intense matchup as HHH did last year.

Just imagine the RKO that ends the Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak?.. that only would make Randy Orton a household name.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Cracka Jack]

Well, no. I'm of the opinion that the streak should never, EVER be broken, simply because there isn't a single person that deserves it. It's become something greater than any number of title reigns and would basically be impossible to live up to. It would be a massive burden more than anything else.

Orton doesn't need to break the streak. In case you haven't noticed, he's insanely over on Smackdown, and playing second fiddle to THE MAN in the WWE, John Cena, seems like a pretty sweet gig to me. Smackdown is the number two show, and always will be, and no amount of streak-breakage is ever going to change that. And as long as Cena stays face (see: a long-ass time), Orton will have no chance of overtaking him. Besides, Vince letting Orton basically carry the B-Show on his own shows how much faith he has in him. Orton's fine, Smackdown's alright. This won't change that.

 

[avi01]

Na I disagree, we have come to a point where the streak should simply not be broken by anyone..20-0 and then probably retirement. Undertaker will be remembered by this, so many tried and failed..this is much part of the undertaker now and people would really reject the idea of anybody ending the streak. Orton is an established start that does not need this to be credible or be a household name. I`ll be seriously surprise if the streak is broken.

 

[yur_momma]

well lets see, HHH got two chances (lost both), HBK got two chances (lost both) and now you want Orton to have a second chance? no thanks. orton will gain nothing from ending taker's streak, hes already about as over as he is going to get. the record is going to look like shit if everyone just keeps getting rematches at WM. and by the way the first orton/taker fued was not fun to watch, i dont want to see it again.

 

[Disaster Master]

Why does someone have to beat it!? Im getting sick of always hearing, who should end the streak? It doesnt have to end! Its become a part of The Undertakers legacy and it will always be something remembered by him. The Roster is so weak right now it wouldnt make no sense for anyone to just come up and end the streak. Orton and Cena won't do it because it would do nothing for them.Simply put the streak doesn't need to end.

 

[Da Big Champ]

Really? another streak thread? The undertaker should never lose at Wrestlmania. I dont like the undertaker but even i dont want him to lose at wrestlemania. Maybe if he was 10-0 then yes but its one of the most recognisable streaks in wrestling.

 

[crazymike0907]

I agree with disastermaster..why does everyone have to think the streak needs to be broken? The undefeated wrestlemania streak is very unique and leaves a certain special aura around Taker and Wrestlemania. Taker already has plenty of accomplishments, but the WM streak is something special that should be included in his WWE history when he retires and joins the HOF. I agree that Taker should (and will) go to 20-0 and he will retire. And as for Orton getting a 3rd shot, I think it should be someone that hasn't faced Taker yet, such as Del Rio, Punk, Cena or Miz (Jericho would be awesome tho!). I have a feeling its gonna be Mark Henry tho if his dominance continues until then. But yeah, taker should retire 20-0 at WM. Its a special, unique thing, why end it? (Side note: I wonder when wwe decided, "hey, so far taker is undefeated at WM, let's keep going at that each year, haha)

 

[Andy 2 Randy]

No-one should, if HHH or HBK couldn't end it having 2 pops, then its a giant stamp in the crotch for all 'the lost souls' before them. It's one of the top matches at Wrestlemania so keeping the streak alive not only gives Undertaker a legacy...But Business wise, More money is rolled in.
But in fairness, Ryder should end the streak...LOL...I'm Just Sayin...

 

[Mustang Sally]

I want The Deadman to go 20 - 0 & then retire.

I agree. What's the purpose of building up this streak all these years just to end it on his last night as an in-ring performer? (I would use the term "active" performer but 'Taker certainly hasn't been that for a few years).

But the topic of this thread asks us to name which wrestler could end the streak...... and as WWE is made up today, no one but John Cena could do it without a fan backlash.

Considering Randy Orton as the man who turns the trick reminds me of Ric Flair's final match against Shawn Michaels. To be the guy who retired Flair, his opponent had to be an accomplished wrestler and an admired man who is over with the fanbase. HBK fit the bill on all counts and the fans were willing to accept the outcome. But can you imagine if Flair were beaten to a pulp by a heel like Big Show or Kane (when they were heels)? The fans would have hated it and it would have been a terrible way to send Flair into retirement. From HBK, they could appreciate it and even embrace it.

For the opposite reasons, having Orton end 'Taker's streak would be bad. Orton is an accomplished performer, but he's hardly beloved. With his 'tweener ways and bad boy image, he wouldn't inspire admiration from the fans for ending 'Taker's streak. Quite the contrary, they might turn on him. Yes, if the company wants to turn Orton instantly heel, that would be a great way to do it, but it would leave the fans with a bad taste in their mouths whenever they thought of Undertaker's last match.

The only current performer who is accomplished, admired and over enough to do the job is Cena. The show of sportsmanship he would display after the match would soothe hurt feelings and send Mark Calloway into retirement with good feelings all around.

I still don't think it will ever happen, though......and when 'Taker has his last match, I hope they don't sacrifice Cena just to indulge 'Taker.

 

[sabataged]

The way I look at is like this. If this is truly the Undertakers last WrestleMania then he needs to lose. What good is it going to do for the Undertaker to stay undefeated at Wrestlemania when he is gone? But think about the automatic credibility it would give someone like Sheamus or Wade Barret if they were to do what all the greats like HHH and HBK couldn't do? They could make a career out of that.

 

[FSWWE]

Streaks were made to be broken, he will always be known has the guy that had 19 wins in a row in a WrestleMania, he doesn't need to get out undefeated.
I think that he needs to go to 20-0, but return at the next Mania, and yes lose to Randy Orton, he is actually one of the few that should end The Undertaker streak at WrestleMania XXIX.

C'mon nobody will forget The Undertaker and his matches against HBK, HHH, Batista and a lot more. And having 20 victories in a row is fucking incredible and nobody will ever accomplish that.
If he loses, he will be the ramp to turn Orton or ADR or another one to a guy that can reach John Cena's level and WWE is actually in need of something like that.
Well, I don't think that the WWE will do this, but I think that they should do it, it's not that a big of a deal to "The Undertaker" and I always thought that he should retire in a defeat and "vanish" in his style "forever".

 

[mpunk2333]

The streak should never be broken. The Undertaker's 21+ years of TRUE hustle, loyalty, & respect should be rewarded with an undefeated streak at the grandaddy of 'em all, the showcase of the immortals--WrestleMania.

Let the Ortons of the WWE make it on their own, not at the expense of the Undertaker's legacy.

 

[Loves2Spoon]

Well I as well agree to what others here have said. I dont think it should be broken. But his last match can't be a grind to 20-0. We already know they dont intend to break it but why not actually make it seem that way. If and when undertaker retires who will be their supernatural superstar? The undertaker has to pass some form of a torch. Why not have him screwed by the ministry and give rise to someone new? Perhaps a superstar needing a gimmick? Kane will not matter after undertaker retires. Simple if taker retires wrestling turns serious. Without all the tricks and such its just wrestling.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Yeah, I'm going with consensus here and vehemently disagree. As has already been said, Randy Orton doesn't "need" The Streak. If The Streak is ever going to be ended, and I hope that it doesn't happen personally, then it needs to be ended by someone that can legitimately benefit from it. There can, potentially, only be one person that can say "I'm the one who ended The Streak" and that'd elevate someone to a whole other level.

IF it ever happens, I think CM Punk is the guy that could not only benefit from it but I think that it would truly cement his place as one of the top guys in the WWE for years to come. We all know Punk is white hot right now and virtually all of us are hoping that he's not leaving WWE. If WWE can maintain the momentum they've built with him, a match between himself & Taker could be huge. Even if Punk doesn't win, an epic 30+ minute match with The Dead Man at the biggest show of the year could still do a lot for Punk. Punk has recently only broken through to another level in his career and Taker himself has said that when The Streak "dies", so does he. If Punk retired arguably the most respected legend in wrestling right now, it'd be a massive feather in Punk's hat.

But yeah, if The Streak ever does end, then let someone end it that's ultimately going to benefit the most from it rather than have it be another notch on the belt of guys like Cena and Orton.

 

[Pedigree1]

This argument is getting old!!! No one should end takers streak 20-0 is a nice way to go out!! Retire right then and there!! Undertaker only really wrestles at WM anyway so protect the streak and just retire!! Have him actually maybe be a writer hire him in a high office position to help out the younger guys!!!