Vote To Legalize Marijuana

[Барбоса]

You didn't really do that good of a job proving me wrong.

Because you weighted the questions in your favour. I made that abundantly clear.

If marijuana were legal their wouldn't be a need for that for from irrelevant

It is completely irrelevant as those cops being heavy-handed has nothing to do with the presence of marijuana. It does not provide any ammunition for you to question the law they were enforcing, which is what you are doing.

By that same logic, when cops are heavy-handed in busting a crack den or a prostitution ring or chasing a murderer, it would provide legitimacy to those illegal activities too. It does not.

Therefore, irrelevant.

The more people who don't smoke pot get into accidents then people who ere under the influence of marijuana. The marijuana still didn't kill them. 150,000 people die from alcohol and that is not including highway deaths. Just smoking marijuana has yet to kill a single person. More deaths from marijuana are from it being illegal.

Are you serious? Of course, there are more people getting into accidents who are not smoking marijuana than are - because there are exponentially more people who are not stupid enough to drive under the influence.

Of course, the marijuana played a part in the deaths of those who drive under the influence. The same way that it does with those drunk drivers.

You may not want to count DUI as a marijuana-caused death but you are in a very tiny minority.

What about other studies that show marijuana increases brain function. That was a pretty. That is a pretty big lie when they say marijuana causes brain damage but it was determined by putting a gas mask on a monkey and they were forced to inhale 63 Columbian strength joints in minutes without any oxygen. What about all the other lies that were told.

You did not ask about other studies. Who is "they?" It was one flawed study and there are plenty of lies/exaggerations told to the benefit of marijuana.

Tell me what other illegal things have the same benefits of marijuana

A good example of you changing the questions to suit your agenda once the original statement has been questioned.

Tobacco also kill more people each year than AIDS,heroin,crack,cocaine,car accidents,fire,and murder combined.

Smoking marijuana could only cause a minor irritation to the large airways of the lung and is discontinued after smoking Also it was been proven that marijuana causes any changes to the small airways of the lungs unlike tobacco that causes long term and permanent damage. Also the difference between the amount of cigarettes a person smokes compared to a heavy marijuana smoker is much smaller.

Tens of millions people smoke pot regularly each year and still no caused case of lung cancer due to marijuana smoking

Tobacco is not the issue here. How many times must you be told that? Just because something else is legal but harmful does not mean that marijuana automatically should be too.

How is it irrelevant?

You're going to make me repeat myself, aren't you? Alright.

"Because heavy-handed law enforcement is not the issue." That they were going after a possessor of marijuana in no way justifies the guilty party having marijuana.

I never said it cures anything but it is a great medicine that helps people live their lives a little easier and doesn't have the side effects that prescription medicine has.What about glaucoma? Marijuana can benefit 90% of he 2.5 million people with glaucoma and is two to three times mor effected than any current medicine for reducing occular pressure. Marijuana can be used to help asthma where taking a hit of marijuana has been known to stop an asthma attack. It could also be used to reduce tumors.

That is a good argument for medicinal marijuana being made available but not for the likes of you to stew your brain.

And of course you have been promoting marijuana as a panacea - "greatest plant ever."

If pot were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison

That is a ridiculous argument. In fact, it is not even an argument. You could substitute "pot" in that sentence for any crime. It suggests that you think that the only people who die in prison are there because of marijuana.

"If fraud were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison"

"If murder were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison"

"If armed robbery were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison"

People still continue to smoke it is easier for a kid to get then tobacco and alcohol. It is wasted money spent by tax payers money. If it were to be made legal it would make over a billion dollars and we be saving money since less people will be in prison.

Marijuana is a win win situation money wise

I do not believe for a second that it is easier to get pot than tobacco/alcohol.

And by the same logic, the war on stronger narcotics is also a failure so we might as well give up on them too.

There are thousands and thousands of benefits from marijuana nd there is a lot to choose from if it were made legal we could do what ever we want with the world's greatest plant

Legalise hemp production then for its physical properties. Not as a narcotic outside of medicine. No need for another disgusting habit to permeate society.

Барбоса, were you expecting a rational, sane answer that had anything to do with what you said?

Not sure what I was thinking.

 

[Natural Selection]

I think I saw Todd in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfkUsJmx1ck

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Because you weighted the questions in your favour. I made that abundantly clear.

It looks like all you do is ignore the truth.
I was laughing the entire time I was reading your responses.

It is completely irrelevant as those cops being heavy-handed has nothing to do with the presence of marijuana. It does not provide any ammunition for you to question the law they were enforcing, which is what you are doing.

By that same logic, when cops are heavy-handed in busting a crack den or a prostitution ring or chasing a murderer, it would provide legitimacy to those illegal activities too. It does not.

Therefore, irrelevant.

But murders,prostitution ring,and crack dens actually cause harm unlike medical marijuana dispensaries that provide medicine for sick people. You can’t compare a crack den to cops busting into families house killing their dog over a little bit of marijuana. What about the mayor in Maryland? His dogs got killed because SWAT raided the wrong house which was because of marijuana. It provides a lot of ammunition it seems like every time you say it’s irrelevant is you ignoring the truth. If marijuana were legal there would be no need for these cops and their heavy hands. Just because it’s their job doesn’t make it right. You say it’s ok because they were doing their job. Is it alright for me to pay someone to kill a person? According to your logic it is because they were doing a job.

Are you serious? Of course, there are more people getting into accidents who are not smoking marijuana than are - because there are exponentially more people who are not stupid enough to drive under the influence.

Of course, the marijuana played a part in the deaths of those who drive under the influence. The same way that it does with those drunk drivers.

You may not want to count DUI as a marijuana-caused death but you are in a very tiny minority.

Then that would mean that pot smokers are to smart to drive under the influence since the people who do is such a tiny minority. Still a tiny minority. Marijuana won’t do anything close to what the impairment of legal alcohol will cause behind the wheel.

Still no good reason at all to keep something with so many benefits illegal.

You did not ask about other studies. Who is "they?" It was one flawed study and there are plenty of lies/exaggerations told to the benefit of marijuana.

It’s hard to call it a lie to benefit when marijuana when it is a proven fact.

A good example of you changing the questions to suit your agenda once the original statement has been questioned.

Hey you told me their was illegal things with benefits. I want to know if they have all the same benefits of marijuana. How is that changing questions to suit my agenda? Is that your way of saying I can’t give you a answer?

Tobacco is not the issue here. How many times must you be told that? Just because something else is legal but harmful does not mean that marijuana automatically should be too.

You brought it up first. I was just comparing the damage that tobacco does compared to marijuana. It is a pretty damn good reason to make marijuana legal when smoking it won’t kill you and 450,000 people die a year because of tobacco. It makes no sense at all to keep marijuana illegal. Rayne supports the death of 450,000 people a year and said it’s OK to keep tobacco legal since it is a billion dollar company. So is marijuana and like I said before we would be saving money due to less people in prison. Win Win situation! Remember?

You're going to make me repeat myself, aren't you? Alright.

"Because heavy-handed law enforcement is not the issue." That they were going after a possessor of marijuana in no way justifies the guilty party having marijuana.

And your going to make me repeat myself again too. If marijuana were legal there wold be no need for any of this heavy handed law enforcement in the first place.

That is a good argument for medicinal marijuana being made available but not for the likes of you to stew your brain.

And of course you have been promoting marijuana as a panacea - "greatest plant ever."

Marijuana can also be used to prevent illnesses. Smoking marijuana regularly is like a guy who drinks a glass of orange juice a day or eats a lot of fruits and vegetables to stay healthy. It’s a plus if your smoking weed too. Marijuana has been shown to increase brain function. Also show me a plant that has the same benefits of marijuana and we will declare that the worlds greatest plant. What is the greatest plant in the world then? Is it the ficus?

That is a ridiculous argument. In fact, it is not even an argument. You could substitute "pot" in that sentence for any crime. It suggests that you think that the only people who die in prison are there because of marijuana.

"If fraud were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison"

"If murder were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison"

"If armed robbery were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison"

Your claims are just as dumb. Pot isn’t a crime, prohibition is a crime. Your making me repeat myself again. If marijuana were legal these people wouldn’t be in prison for their so called crime. These people wouldn’t have died. The police need to going after more murders,robbers,and people who commit fraud than bust people for smoking pot. If marijuana were legal medical marijuana users like Richard Flor wouldn’t have died on the way to prison. You can’t compare a murder to any one that died in prison because of a pot charge. Police arrest medical marijuana users and they die because they are left without their medicine. You can’t compare a robber to a sick person. You can’t compare those type of terrible to people who are even alive in prison for marijuana like Marc Emery and Eddy Lepp.

I do not believe for a second that it is easier to get pot than tobacco/alcohol.

And by the same logic, the war on stronger narcotics is also a failure so we might as well give up on them too.

I said kids. It is easier for a kid to get illegal marijuana than legal tobacco and alcohol. Their are even plenty of kids in high school selling pot. Shows how good marijuana prohibition is working that even high school kids are getting away with selling marijuana. The whole drug war is a failure and a waste of money. Also those other drugs will kill you and way worse than marijuana and don’t have any of the benefits that marijuana does.

Legalise hemp production then for its physical properties. Not as a narcotic outside of medicine. No need for another disgusting habit to permeate society.

First off you spelled legalized wrong I think that should be a year sentence in prison.

Marijuana isn’t a disgusting habit at all. If any thing marijuana will only create a better society. Smoking marijuana is a much safer and healthier habit than tobacco and alcohol. Their are plenty of successful people who smoke pot. People with a family and a well paid job that live in a nice house. It is more healthier to come after a day of a work take a few bong hits than drinking a bunch of beer. Or even a guy who drinks a glass of wine. If he drinks too much wine it could kill him, if he smokes too much weed he may miss the ending to the movie he was watching because he fell asleep. If anything making marijuana legal would create a much safer and healthier habit for society.

Not sure what I was thinking.

I don’t know what you are thinking either.

 

[Natural Selection]

Todd:There are thousands and thousands of benefits from marijuana nd there is a lot to choose from if it were made legal we could do what ever we want with the world's greatest plant

List one thousand benefits

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Big Daddy Awesome

Do you think I'm Earl Sinclair? I do like to wear flannels.

Is this apart of your defense that marijuana being illegal isn't a failure?

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

There are over 1000 things alone that can be made from hemp. Then you have marijuana with so many benefits. Even if I were to name 1000 benefits you would still ignore me just like how you have failed to prove me wrong.

 

[Danger Burger]

Is this apart of your defense that marijuana being illegal isn't a failure?

We got cops killing scumbags everyday, with good reason, how is that not a success?

 

[Natural Selection]

There are over 1000 things alone that can be made from hemp. Then you have marijuana with so many benefits. Even if I were to name 1000 benefits you would still ignore me just like how you have failed to prove me wrong.

You said thousands and thousands, now list 1,000.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Scum bags are not in the same category as pot smokers

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Prove me wrong and then I will list 1000 benefits

 

[Danger Burger]

Scum bags are not in the same category as pot smokers

They are if they break the law!

 

[Natural Selection]

The burden of proof is not on me, it is on you. Much like how the defendant doesn't have to prove he's innocent, the prosecutor has to prove him guilty. You are the prosecutor.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

They are if they break the law!

One of the definitions of a narrow mind. Are you saying that Michael Vick,rapist,and child molesters are bigger scum bags than Marc Emery,Eddy Lepp,or Richard Flor. Because that what the law says. You turd burglars are more backwards and crazier than me with that kind of logic.

 

[Danger Burger]

I'm sure you meant to say the complete opposite to what you said, (though i'm sure you'll deny that too) but i'll let you off light in the hopes that a cop beats your ass for being a scumbag drug addict.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

The burden of proof is not on me, it is on you. Much like how the defendant doesn't have to prove he's innocent, the prosecutor has to prove him guilty. You are the prosecutor.

I'm the innocent person defending marijuana. You are insulting my claims with no reason. If you are going to insult me in a bullying matter you can at least give me a reason. I know you can't give a reason because you are too dumb to so I'm going to just try and ignore you. Odds are your will have will out do yourself with a even dumber response than your last and I will have no other choice but to respond to your dumb response.

 

[Natural Selection]

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

I'm sure you meant to say the complete opposite to what you said, (though i'm sure you'll deny that too) but i'll let you off light in the hopes that a cop beats your ass for being a scumbag drug addict.

You never answerd my question. Are you saying that Michael Vick,rapist,and child molesters are bigger scum bags than Marc Emery,Eddy Lepp,or Richard Flor? Because that what the law says.

One more thing to my list of things I want you to prove to me.

Prove that I'm a scum bag drug addict.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

Big Daddy Awesome

How cute you posted a little animation that represents how you can't prove me wrong.

 

[Danger Burger]

Are you saying that Michael Vick,rapist,and child molesters are bigger scum bags than Marc Emery,Eddy Lepp,or Richard Flor? Because that what the law says.

You are still asking the question backwards to what you are trying to prove. The law and cases you are referring to declare micheal vick a LESSER evil than the drug activists, not a bigger. this is what you would like me to agree with. What you are saying above is the reverse of what you are trying to say.

One more thing to my list of things I want you to prove to me.

Prove that I'm a scum bag drug addict.

You know what, this is silly, I was just trying to rile you up. I apologise. Sincerely. I have no proof that you are a scumbag drug addict. Infact, those are terms I brought up just to annoy you, because a lot of what you write causes annoyance to me. I dont even hope that you get beaten by a cop.

Though on point, if you are not addicted, I dare you to try and stop. I bet you cannot. I will have no way of proving whether you did or not, but you will know that you cannot. If you try that is.

Funny thing about Micheal Vick. He was connected to the animal abuse through a drugs bust. Good thing weed is illegal, or he would have never been caught.

 

[Natural Selection]

Big Daddy Awesome

How cute you posted a little animation that represents how you can't prove me wrong.

You already know what I think you should do, see the "Hey Todd" thread.

 

[AndThat'sTheBottomLine]

I don't know why in the fuck you are still trying to convince people that you're right. Oh wait I know why. You're an attention ****e. A troll in its truest form. You know I was talking to a guy I work with tonight. He's a pot smoker and you know what he said? He said that pot should NOT be legalized because then people would over do it. The reason why alcohol and tobacco cause so many deaths is BECAUSE they are legal. Do you know why marijuana doesn't cause as many deaths? Because it is NOT legal. If it was legal, almost everyone would be smoking it. Then you would have more deaths caused by it. It's simple logic that you seem to have a hard time grasping. Also, you say it is not a gateway drug. I challenge you to try and quit. You seem to smoke a lot of pot so I challenge you to stop. I know you won't because it's too addictive. It is after all, a narcotic.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

You are still asking the question backwards to what you are trying to prove. The law and cases you are referring to declare micheal vick a LESSER evil than the drug activists, not a bigger. this is what you would like me to agree with. What you are saying above is the reverse of what you are trying to say.



You know what, this is silly, I was just trying to rile you up. I apologise. Sincerely. I have no proof that you are a scumbag drug addict. Infact, those are terms I brought up just to annoy you, because a lot of what you write causes annoyance to me. I dont even hope that you get beaten by a cop.

Though on point, if you are not addicted, I dare you to try and stop. I bet you cannot. I will have no way of proving whether you did or not, but you will know that you cannot. If you try that is.

Funny thing about Micheal Vick. He was connected to the animal abuse through a drugs bust. Good thing weed is illegal, or he would have never been caught.

You still never answered my question if you think Michael Vick rapist and child molesters are a lesser evil than Marc Emery,Eddy Lepp,or Richard Flor because that is what the law says.

It's funny when you can’t prove me wrong you get all apologetic. You and a lot of other people annoy me with their bull shit about weed shouldn't be legal when no one can give a real reason to why. So don’t tell me that I annoy. After discussing this topic with you and everyone else on here I can now under stand why wrestling fans get the bad stereotype of being a bunch of inbred idiots You can't give any excuse for what Michael Vick did. He deserved to be drowned or electrocuted so he could get a feel of the torture that he put those dogs though. People like Michael Vick, rapist, child molesters. They get off easier than Marc Emery and Eddy Lepp. Marc Emery sold seeds and Eddy Lepp got 10 years because he smokes medical marijuana. Eddy Lepp is already an older man who is also sick he will only be another death caused by marijuana being illegal if we don't make it legal soon. Don’t brush my questions. I answer all your dumb questions. People haven’t even proved me wrong yet.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

You said thousands and thousands, now list 1,000.

Watch out for duplicate armbars.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

You already know what I think you should do, see the "Hey Todd" thread.

That was made out of a direct result of you not being able to prove me wrong. Im still waiting on your good marijuana argument also waiting to hear your opinion of why marijuana being illegal isn't a failure. So your way of admitting that your wrong and I'm right is by telling me to kill myself.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

I don't know why in the fuck you are still trying to convince people that you're right. Oh wait I know why. You're an attention ****e. A troll in its truest form. You know I was talking to a guy I work with tonight. He's a pot smoker and you know what he said? He said that pot should NOT be legalized because then people would over do it. The reason why alcohol and tobacco cause so many deaths is BECAUSE they are legal. Do you know why marijuana doesn't cause as many deaths? Because it is NOT legal. If it was legal, almost everyone would be smoking it. Then you would have more deaths caused by it. It's simple logic that you seem to have a hard time grasping. Also, you say it is not a gateway drug. I challenge you to try and quit. You seem to smoke a lot of pot so I challenge you to stop. I know you won't because it's too addictive. It is after all, a narcotic.

I'm also trying to convince people that I'm right because I am and no one has yet to prove me wrong. Is the guy you work with the decider if marijuana should stay illegal? People would not over do it. Look at countries like Portugal or Amsterdam people don't abuse it there. According to your logic marijuana were made legal then people would start to die from it. Tens of millions of people have still been smoking pot since it was made illegal in 1937 and not a single person hasn't died. I guess we have to make it legal for people to legal. That makes sense if your dumb like yourself. I guess according to your logic Colorado and Washington will now have a death massacre since marijuana is legal there too. Marijuana doesn't cause as many deaths it doesn't call any deaths at all. Marijuana doesn’t kill prohibition kills. If marijuana were legal Richard Flor would have never died. Same with the rest of the victims of prohibition. What does marijuana being a gateway drug has to do with me quitting for a week? People who use the word troll on web forums don't have any credibility so it wouldn't prove anything if I were to stop smoking. Are you going to send me a camera that I'll attach to myself and you can monitor me at all times? I smoke for medical purposes and recreational reasons and to not smoke for some stupid turd on a web forum. If you can prove all my claims to be false then I will never smoke again and be against marijuana being legal.