Vote To Legalize Marijuana

How have I proved myself wrong?

Every "article" you have site is from a pro-marijuana site of some sort and isn't based on any actual facts, other than the stoned ramblings of some hippie loser who runs whatever site.
 
What I post re facts and for every site has sources of where they got their facts from. Those a sites started by people trying to make a difference since no one else is. Read the book The Emperor Wears No Clothes. I posted videos of doctors saying marijuana causes no lung damage posted videos of the police breaking into someone’s house killing a guys dog over a little bit of weed. What about the video I posted how SWAT team killed the mayor in Maryland's dog in a false drug study. What about the Heath Tulane? What about Marc Emery or Eddy Lepp? What about all the medical benefits of marijuana? What about how no one dies from marijuana? You are only not accepting the truth. There is nothing that anyone can say that is a good enough reason on why marijuana should be illegal.
 
It's hard to point out negative effects of marijuana when there a such a small amount. There isn't really that many negative effects to talk about. It's a crime that it is illegal when you have one plant that has so many benefits. Cannasbis is the greatest plant ever. So why keep it ilegal? Show me a plant that can do everything that marijuana can provide.
 
Then prove every single fact wrong.

Prove that those raid videos were just paid actors
Prove the deaths from marijuana
Prove that The Heath Tulane Study was false
Prove that marijuana has no benefits at all
Prove what Dr.Donald Tashkin said was false
Prove that the state of Montana didn't take away a kid's medicine or that the cannabis oil wasn't working
Prove that marijuana has no medical benefits
Prove that more people died from smoking marijuana than people who died while in prison for a marijuana offense
Prove that marijuana being illegal isn't a failure
Prove that marijuana isn't the greatest plant ever
And I will shut up
 
You're too fucking stupid to realize that most of the people posting in this thread are also pro decriminalization, but we're not fucking idiots about it.

People like you are the EXACT reason marijuana stays illegal. You fit every fucking bad stereotype of marijuana user that's every been created. You love for "the cause" is actually holding the cause back.

Now please, go the fuck away. Forever. Nobody likes you.
 
Decriminalization doesn't solve much. It could maybe be considered the next step to making it legal. Marijuana should be legalized.

What bad stereotypes of a marijuana user do I fit?


That also wasn't proving any of those facts wrong.
 
Decriminalization doesn't solve much. It could maybe be considered the next step to making it legal. Marijuana should be legalized.

What bad stereotypes of a marijuana user do I fit?


That also wasn't proving any of those facts wrong.

When in a debate, it is not up to the individual (or parties as a whole) representing the "negative" to prove the "positive" wrong. You must prove to us what you are saying is, indeed, fact. Just tossing around the word doesn't make it so, either.

Just thought I'd share that with ya. Now, prove to me, Rayne, Awesome, Bacon, et al, that you are right.....
 
If you have been reading anything that I posted in the 37 pages it shows that I already have.

Now debunk every single fact that I posted.

You haven't posted a single fact. Nothing to debunk. Every single link you posted is an opinion.
 
Is that your good argument that you claim to have? That doesn't explain how marijuana being illegal is not a failure.

That wasn't debunking everything. If you can prove that all of that is made up then marijuana should stay illegal.
 
Is that your good argument that you claim to have? That doesn't explain how marijuana being illegal is not a failure.

That wasn't debunking everything. If you can prove that all of that is made up then marijuana should stay illegal.

How about you prove to me that any of those articles were made by an actual doctor?
 
A textbook and extremely transparent case of someone setting their own rules/questions to suit their agenda. I will entertain you somewhat by going through this like I was marking an essay, highlighting any tangental/specious reasoning and in particular the irrelevancies of many of your points.

Prove that those raid videos were just paid actors

Irrelevant as it has nothing to do with the subject at hand except the law being enforced on guilty individuals, however heavy-handed.

Prove the deaths from marijuana

I suppose someone walking out into traffic or crashing their car when high as a kite is not a marijuana death in your opinion. The alcohol industry will be happy to hear that.

Prove that The Heath Tulane Study was false

It was a study that did take place so it is impossible to prove otherwise. It's claimed results were incorrect although that does not prove anything except that that one study was wrong.

Prove that marijuana has no benefits at all

Irrelevant. Plenty of other illegal things have benefits too.

Prove what Dr.Donald Tashkin said was false

We'll just gloss over the fact that he said that marijuana can be up to 15 times more harmful to a part of the lung than tobacco. Sounds completely harmless...

Also I can use Google to find several articles that suggest that marijuana can be anywhere between 6 and 20 times more carcinogenic than tobacco, which is more than the "cancer-fighting" can prevent. I am not going to present them though as they are no more "facts" than your presented studies.

What does this prove? That opinion remains divided and more research is required.

Prove that the state of Montana didn't take away a kid's medicine or that the cannabis oil wasn't working

First part is irrelevant again as heavy-handed law enforcement is not the issue.

Prove that marijuana has no medical benefits

Did anyone say it does not? However, it is not a panacea. Marijuana does not cure anything. It is therapeutic and can alleviate pain/symptoms. However, it can also heighten already detrimental mental conditions.

Prove that more people died from smoking marijuana than people who died while in prison for a marijuana offense

Again, irrelevant as the state of American prisons has nothing to do with the issue and again does not take into account DUI.

Prove that marijuana being illegal isn't a failure

Because people continue to break the laws regarding the growing, transporting, selling and usage of marijuana makes it a failure? If that conclusion were applied across the board then law and order would collapse.

Prove that marijuana isn't the greatest plant ever

It certainly is versatile but you are kidding yourself if you think that most people want it legalised to build houses, make rope or eat. They want it legalised so they can get high from the species of the cannabis plant that provides for it.
 
Барбоса;4210499 said:
A textbook and extremely transparent case of someone setting their own rules/questions to suit their agenda. I will entertain you somewhat by going through this like I was marking an essay, highlighting any tangental/specious reasoning and in particular the irrelevancies of many of your points.

You didn't really do that good of a job proving me wrong.



Барбоса;4210499 said:
Irrelevant as it has nothing to do with the subject at hand except the law being enforced on guilty individuals, however heavy-handed.

If marijuana were legal their wouldn't be a need for that for from irrelevant



Барбоса;4210499 said:
I suppose someone walking out into traffic or crashing their car when high as a kite is not a marijuana death in your opinion. The alcohol industry will be happy to hear that.

The more people who don't smoke pot get into accidents then people who ere under the influence of marijuana. The marijuana still didn't kill them. 150,000 people die from alcohol and that is not including highway deaths. Just smoking marijuana has yet to kill a single person. More deaths from marijuana are from it being illegal.

Барбоса;4210499 said:
It was a study that did take place so it is impossible to prove otherwise. It's claimed results were incorrect although that does not prove anything except that that one study was wrong.

What about other studies that show marijuana increases brain function. That was a pretty. That is a pretty big lie when they say marijuana causes brain damage but it was determined by putting a gas mask on a monkey and they were forced to inhale 63 Columbian strength joints in minutes without any oxygen. What about all the other lies that were told.


Барбоса;4210499 said:
Irrelevant. Plenty of other illegal things have benefits too.

Tell me what other illegal things have the same benefits of marijuana



Барбоса;4210499 said:
We'll just gloss over the fact that he said that marijuana can be up to 15 times more harmful to a part of the lung than tobacco. Sounds completely harmless...

Also I can use Google to find several articles that suggest that marijuana can be anywhere between 6 and 20 times more carcinogenic than tobacco, which is more than the "cancer-fighting" can prevent. I am not going to present them though as they are no more "facts" than your presented studies.

What does this prove? That opinion remains divided and more research is required.

Tobacco also kill more people each year than AIDS,heroin,crack,cocaine,car accidents,fire,and murder combined.

Smoking marijuana could only cause a minor irritation to the large airways of the lung and is discontinued after smoking Also it was been proven that marijuana causes any changes to the small airways of the lungs unlike tobacco that causes long term and permanent damage. Also the difference between the amount of cigarettes a person smokes compared to a heavy marijuana smoker is much smaller.
Tens of millions people smoke pot regularly each year and still no caused case of lung cancer due to marijuana smoking


Барбоса;4210499 said:
First part is irrelevant again as heavy-handed law enforcement is not the issue.

How is it irrelevant?


Барбоса;4210499 said:
Did anyone say it does not? However, it is not a panacea. Marijuana does not cure anything. It is therapeutic and can alleviate pain/symptoms. However, it can also heighten already detrimental mental conditions.

I never said it cures anything but it is a great medicine that helps people live their lives a little easier and doesn't have the side effects that prescription medicine has.What about glaucoma? Marijuana can benefit 90% of he 2.5 million people with glaucoma and is two to three times mor effected than any current medicine for reducing occular pressure. Marijuana can be used to help asthma where taking a hit of marijuana has been known to stop an asthma attack. It could also be used to reduce tumors.


Барбоса;4210499 said:
Again, irrelevant as the state of American prisons has nothing to do with the issue and again does not take into account DUI.

If pot were legal they would have never got arrested and died while in prison

Барбоса;4210499 said:
Because people continue to break the laws regarding the growing, transporting, selling and usage of marijuana makes it a failure? If that conclusion were applied across the board then law and order would collapse.

People still continue to smoke it is easier for a kid to get then tobacco and alcohol. It is wasted money spent by tax payers money. If it were to be made legal it would make over a billion dollars and we be saving money since less people will be in prison.

Marijuana is a win win situation money wise



Барбоса;4210499 said:
It certainly is versatile but you are kidding yourself if you think that most people want it legalised to build houses, make rope or eat. They want it legalised so they can get high from the species of the cannabis plant that provides for it.

There are thousands and thousands of benefits from marijuana nd there is a lot to choose from if it were made legal we could do what ever we want with the world's greatest plant
 
Барбоса, were you expecting a rational, sane answer that had anything to do with what you said?

Todd, you are part of the reason marijuana is still illegal. People who vote see you talk and it scares the shit out of them.
 

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