"There's only one Ricky Hatton" Raw LD

Right. It's a way to get people to watch WWE, as you said. Hatton is a big deal in England, so having him host makes sense. However, wouldn't the point be to have move people keep watching by showing what WWE has? By having a guy with no wrestling experience come in and dominate a major guy.........PIPER IS HOSTING NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!! OH FUCK YES!!!!.....would make the company look weak. Why would you watch a company that looks weak? By making it look like Hatton can beat a guy that everyone beats but not have the confrontation with the big man, it makes you wonder whether or not he can do it. It would make people want to watch so they can see more of these awesome wrestlers, at least in theory.

Yeah, it could do, but it won't. I have just received a text:

Tom said:
You made me watch that shit? Hatton is going to be pillared tomorrow.

Experiment failed.

To people in this country, Hatton is one of the best fighters in the world. Even though he's not, people still believe that, him not knocking out a little cunt like Chavo straight away isn't going to get these people to watch.
 
I'd rather see someone be punched to the floor than be choked out on the floor in a giant man-hug.

A) When did boxing allow you to punch your opponent when he's down?

B) MMA does allow that. So if you'd rather see someone punched to the floor, watch MMA. It happens on every single card.
 
Yeah, a two minute hugging contest on the floor is better than a fist fight. Greta to know your opinion. In THIS country, boxing is bigger. This Raw is in this country. I fail to see your point.

So watching two guys punch each other without the ability to throw a kick, or try to improve their position to win a fight is interesting to you? MMA fights are also more than just "two minute hugging fights on the floor". You're obviously misinformed. And besides, that comment was in response to your comment that Americans don't watch boxing because there hasn't been a major heavyweight in 10 years. I responded that it didn't matter because MMA is more popular nowadays anyway because it's more fast paced and not a snoozefest like Boxing is. Try to keep up.

Original. I've said time and time again, the tour to Britiain is a chance to get new British fans, everyone in this country has heard of Hatton, he got mainstream exposure for the WWE today just for being associated with it, which has been ruined by his segment. Vince obviously only cares about you Yanks, which is fair enough, but not for me.

And this is the first time a lot of fans here have been exposed to Hatton. Your argument is that the WWE should have picked some poor soul to get involved in a boxer/wrestler match and have it do absolutely nothing for his career. Mayweather/Big Show was a huge deal here because Mayweather is the only mainstream boxer left the American public cares about, and his PPV buyrates are usually around the 1 million mark. They picked Chavo, because that's the guy who wouldn't really be hurt as far as getting KO'ed by Hatton goes.

For the most part, the only people who care about Hatton are in England. Nobody gives a shit about him in America, and to have him knock out anyone but Chavo would have been stupid and pointless. Deal with it.
 
Yeah, it could do, but it won't. I have just received a text:



Experiment failed.

To people in this country, Hatton is one of the best fighters in the world. Even though he's not, people still believe that, him not knocking out a little cunt like Chavo straight away isn't going to get these people to watch.

Oh ok ok. I've got it now. Vince should cater to England's 50 million people that he goes live to for about 2 weeks a year because they're more relevant than the 300 million he goes to live about 300 shows a year? I GET IT NOW!
 
Nah it's more fun in here Bill.

This Raw...I mean, it hasn't been bad...it's just been (as KB would put it) "there". Nothing exciting, nothing good, nothing bad. Just bland and boring.
 
Yep. This has been hours of just wrestling. There's been no development, no advancing of stories or angles, and nothing particularly bad. It's been two hours of pure average. Things will be exactly the same next week at this time, but with a more interesting guest host.
 
Ok, good for him. See, the marketing is working. In other words, Hatton could be out here making cookies and your friend would watch. Why would Vince want to make his big names look weak for a guy that's likely never going to be associated with him again? That makes no sense.
He's not going to watch again though. Considering he doesn't take ratings from over here into account, only PPV buys on Sky Box Office, he's not going to see this as a success/

You mean the same shit match that almost every guest host has had for the last 2-3 months, meaning that Hatton is considered just the same as they are, as it should be? Yeah, that's about right.
Personally, I have hardly known any of the other hosts. I don't give a shit about them. I also don't think Jermey Piven or whoever can hold his own in a wrestling ring. I do believe, however, that Hatton could.




So watching two guys punch each other without the ability to throw a kick, or try to improve their position to win a fight is interesting to you?
Yeah, of course. I don't know what it's like where you're from, but if I see a fight in the street, it's punches being thrown, none of the grappling. Yes, I know this is wrestling we're watching, but it's not a sport at all.

MMA fights are also more than just "two minute hugging fights on the floor". You're obviously misinformed. And besides, that comment was in response to your comment that Americans don't watch boxing because there hasn't been a major heavyweight in 10 years. I responded that it didn't matter because MMA is more popular nowadays anyway because it's more fast paced and not a snoozefest like Boxing is. Try to keep up.
And I said, let's see if another heavyweight comes alone from your Land, and THEN see what you all say. If you all say "who cares?" then i'll concede, if people hail it as a success then I'll be right.



And this is the first time a lot of fans here have been exposed to Hatton. Your argument is that the WWE should have picked some poor soul to get involved in a boxer/wrestler match and have it do absolutely nothing for his career. Mayweather/Big Show was a huge deal here because Mayweather is the only mainstream boxer left the American public cares about, and his PPV buyrates are usually around the 1 million mark. They picked Chavo, because that's the guy who wouldn't really be hurt as far as getting KO'ed by Hatton goes.

For the most part, the only people who care about Hatton are in England. Nobody gives a shit about him in America, and to have him knock out anyone but Chavo would have been stupid and pointless. Deal with it.[/QUOTE]
 
Oh ok ok. I've got it now. Vince should cater to England's 50 million people that he goes live to for about 2 weeks a year because they're more relevant than the 300 million he goes to live about 300 shows a year? I GET IT NOW!

People who will PAY to see WrestleMania if they're given a reason to watch. How hard is that to understand? He failed BIG time tonight. No new fans will continue to watch after this shit. He could have boosted PPV sales around the world tonight, which he didn't.
 
And I said, let's see if another heavyweight comes alone from your Land, and THEN see what you all say. If you all say "who cares?" then i'll concede, if people hail it as a success then I'll be right.

That would be the most likely response. Boxing is as culturally relevant as Members Only jackets at this point.
 
Yep. This has been hours of just wrestling. There's been no development, no advancing of stories or angles, and nothing particularly bad. It's been two hours of pure average. Things will be exactly the same next week at this time, but with a more interesting guest host.

Its Piper. It will def be more exciting. No need to develop more storylines, SS just continues them, not ends them, so thats no biggie to me. I thought it was funnier how earlier Cole was saying how kofi put his team together. Yep, he went to Smackdown or speed dialed R-Truth and said, "Whats up" and Truth was like, I'm in. Then Kofi says, lets put a random white dude on my team, goes to ECW and recruits Christian. Yep, I'm sure thats how he did it.
 
Christ you'd think Ricky Hatton was the second coming of Jesus the way you talk about him. I highly doubt if he had knocked out Big Show that would have brought in a ton of new fans. Frankly that's just a fucking ridiculous notion. People would watch Hatton, and then not give a shit once the show is over. Just like they're doing now. Ricky Hatton knocking out the Big Show isn't going to make someone a wrestling fan. They aren't even fucking wrestling.
 
He's not going to watch again though. Considering he doesn't take ratings from over here into account, only PPV buys on Sky Box Office, he's not going to see this as a success/

STOP THE PRESSES!!! WE LOST ONE FAN!!! WE HAVE TO REWRITE SURVIVOR SERIES AS REGAL VS. BURCHILL STAT!!!!!

We'll ignore the fact that catering to mostly English fans would alienate most of Vince's market and cause ratings to plummet. Screw that meaningless bullshit. Your friend didn't like the show. That's the important thing.


Personally, I have hardly known any of the other hosts. I don't give a shit about them. I also don't think Jermey Piven or whoever can hold his own in a wrestling ring. I do believe, however, that Hatton could.

You mean, you, an Englishman, hasn't known a lot of American entertainers and personalities, on an American based television show, on the USA network, produced by an American based company, promoted by an American businessman and marketed to a primarily American audience?

I'm not here anymore. I'm over there. You blew me away from here.
 
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My knees are chafed from the slapping I've given them after reading that post KB.

Can I join you "over there"?

Wow, Raw is over already? Not a very good show.
 
People who will PAY to see WrestleMania if they're given a reason to watch. How hard is that to understand? He failed BIG time tonight. No new fans will continue to watch after this shit. He could have boosted PPV sales around the world tonight, which he didn't.

Boosted PPV sales? You mean by getting people like your friend to watch by promoting a guy like Hatton and then having the focus of the show be on the build to the PPV, just like he did?
 
Christ you'd think Ricky Hatton was the second coming of Jesus the way you talk about him.
Sports people who put their heart and soul on the line for fans are always popular over here. We value committment more than talent. An heroic failure is better than an arrogant winner. I do apologise.

[quote[I highly doubt if he had knocked out Big Show that would have brought in a ton of new fans. Frankly that's just a fucking ridiculous notion. People would watch Hatton, and then not give a shit once the show is over. Just like they're doing now. Ricky Hatton knocking out the Big Show isn't going to make someone a wrestling fan. They aren't even fucking wrestling.[/QUOTE]
The boxing fans who watched will have seen what happened in his fight and turned off the channel. If they enjoyed the Hatton bit they would have watched more and maybe enjoyed the Main Event and watched next week.

Fuckin' boss of a Main Event next week. Shame no new fans are still watching to enjoy the announcement.
 
Gotta love the kayfabe universe where John Cena and a demon from hell (who's a good guy) are apparently friends and he can just call him up to wrestle anytime he feels like it, even though he's not on that show.
 
Some of you are a little harsh on boxing.

But I'm really not a fan of Ricky Hatton. To me he's just an unexciting version of Micky Ward.
 
By the way, in most cases, the GM of the night would announce the match for next week if he made it.

The WWE was so afraid of Hatton mumbling his way through the announcement that they had Justin Roberts make it.
 

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