Steamboat Ricky
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lulz I love how any time anyone debates Sly on anything they are all "ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE DID THIS DAMMIT"
What the fuck is he, the krakken?
He's the McMahon-Helmsley Era of debators.
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lulz I love how any time anyone debates Sly on anything they are all "ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE DID THIS DAMMIT"
What the fuck is he, the krakken?
Then that same person would then have to celebrate the lives of Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, George W Bush, etc. as well.Not if the poster determines that being a person in and of itself is something worth honoring.
Then that same person would then have to celebrate the lives of Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, George W Bush, etc. as well.
So, are you saying this theoretical poster believes that all men should be honored at the time of their death, regardless of the transgressions they made in their life? Furthermore, do YOU believe that?
Then that same person would then have to celebrate the lives of Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, George W Bush, etc. as well.
So, are you saying this theoretical poster believes that all men should be honored at the time of their death, regardless of the transgressions they made in their life? Furthermore, do YOU believe that?
Like how I threw in George W. with those other guys? FTS will have a fit.
God damn. God damn.
Rest in Peace Chris Kanyon. You were one of the only men brave enough to be true about your sexuality and not care about the long-standing homophobia in the industry, you just wanted to be happy and be yourself.
This sucks, and unfortunately it sounds like foulplay will be involved in this in someway. Such a tragic loss. Rest in Peace Christopher Kanyon.
But Hitler did turn into a genocidal, power-hungry, bigot. Are you saying, then, this theoretical poster should honor Adolf Hitler since he is deceased, and should have honored him the moment he passed? Does the fact Hitler is human trump the transgressions he made in life?Celebrated? Not so sure that celebrating the life of Hitler would be appropriate. But then again, I find the words "honor" and "celebrate" to mean different things. I can honor the fact that Hitler probably wasn't always a genocidal, power-hungry, bigot. Somewhere along the line, something surely went wrong and thus, he became what he became. And that...that is what makes it tragic.
I, too, believe that humans are inherently good, but all humans make choices in their life, choices which affect the course their life takes. Not all humans start with the same options, and not all people have the same choices, but they make choices nonetheless, and their life is the consequence (good or bad) of those choices.And as a general rule, I'm not sure exactly what I believe there. I think that being a human being in and of itself is something that is of value. That's why Jack the school janitor gets a little section in the paper when he dies.
I believe that human beings are inherently good, and thus, things have to happen along the way that shape them into being "bad". This is why I tend to be a Chris Benoit sympathizer.
If Kanyon's death wakes up some other retired junky from the business that this might not be the best life plan to walk down, then it's a positive.
Even if he was mentally sick for his entire life, he still made choices. Mental illness doesn't force you to abuse drugs. I can be a contributing factor sure, but in the end those choices were made by him and him alone. Unfortunate that mental illness exists, but I'm not going to mourn over a man who chose to take his life in that direction. My bestfriend contemplated suicide years ago because of his depression. He said that he didn;t go through with it because he realized that he can make his own life what he wants it to be and that you can fight depression. He didn't blame anyone or anything for choices he had made. Man makes his own choices regardless of outside interference.
So even debating an issue of whether you should feel a certain way when someone dies of a drug overdose is absurd. Feelings aren't a debatable issue. You can't change how you feel. Ricky isn't going to convince Sly to change the way he feels, and Sly's not going to change Ricky's mind either. It's best to just reflect on Kanyon's career and accomplishments, which is what the purpose of this thread should be.
It's really sad how intelligent you want people to think you are, and then profess that people have limited or no control over their own actions, that everything, or close to it, which happens to them in life is outside of their control.It's really rather sad that Sly is literally incapable of admitting he is wrong about something.
Hi, Sid.You know, deep down, that I'm right, that Kanyon made the CONSCIOUS choice to abuse drugs and made the decision to kill himself. You know I'm right, even if you won't admit it.