Raw's 02/21/11 Announcement

[ashe draven]

HHH vs taker at mania has already been done. great match btw. and yes that match this yr would be totally different. just dont c it, though it is entirely plausible. the scenario involving evil/not right/demonic taker is intriguing, but cmon dude, its pg wwe, NOT goin to happen. but i like ur idea, would b cool 4 sure. back 2 why its sting, 3rd time round this thread. the deal is ultra close to the vest. vince hates HATES spoilers. vince wants a million buys at WM. what current scenarios/matches in the current wwe realm is gonna get that? other than cena/taker confrontation imo, none. sting involved w/ taker in any compacity certainly might. and definately would b historic no doubt. again, still cant wait 4 part 3 of the vignette series. notes- if beiber is WM host please please riot. and 2, can anyone remember when a vignette series was THIS HOT?!?! not i.

 

[wwefan101x]

Wow...now everything is a huge mess. I think it's Undertaker but someone else not necessarily Sting will come with him. If it is Sting. Undertaker and Sting could team up to face Barrett and Kane. That's what I think. Also my previous post about the 5 on 3 handicapped match, I strongly believe it's 5 on 3 for a reason. I from the beginning thought Undertaker 90% and Sting 10%. Someone else is coming with Undertaker on the 21st. The promos just feel different. I for one won't be disappointed if Undertaker shows up with no Sting.


I think everyone would cheer/ sorta mark out if Taker returned with no hype/promo anyway. The people saying that the WWE are clearing Sting being the possible mystery person so we all don't get disappointed is just ridiculous and I'll tell you why. Now they've made everyone think that 2 people are coming on the 21st (including myself). In the 2nd promo it looks like someone opened the door for another person though. See! My point. So the 3rd promo should either kill the Sting rumours completely, make it 100% it's Taker or just confuse us even more. So according to a PWI article... Taker will return to RAW and Smackdown? He gets like two returns? What's the point in that? The thing also I don't understand it why hasn't Sting or anyone close to him or the WWE have just said no Sting is not with WWE if this has received so much hype. It's like there's a missing link, just saying.

What happens if this happened. There will be NexSES vs Corre, Undertaker comes and destroys both groups, then maybe Kane comes out attacks Undertaker, then if Sting signed with WWE he comes to the aide of Taker making Kane flee. Then on SD, it's Edge (c), Rey, Big Show, Taker and Sting vs ADR and Corre (Gabriel, Slater, Jackson, Barrett). The match gets started the Kane comes out to "watch". He gets payback on Sting setting up Barrett/Kane vs Sting/Taker. That's how I would do it if both Taker and Sting came out on the 21st.

Why is everyone ducking the Sting rumor? Bischoff says he is not aware of whether Sting is with TNA or not. He's not involved in talent acquisitions or discussions/negotiations, so he's not in the front line of it. Bischoff doesn't think Sting would go to WWE, but if it was, it would be for a short time, maybe merchandise/licensing. Bischoff says anyone that expects Sting to show up in WWE as a full-time wrestler will be disappointed.An opinion of WWE's product. Bischoff says he hasn't been watching. He respects Shane, Vince, Stephanie. He says the company has taken this business to a new level: a television juggernaut. Bischoff says the youth movement is good. Bischoff says WWE's business is down and finds it ironic? Bischoff says WWE goes back to the older talent to bring business back up (Nash, Booker T, Sting, Jerry Lawler going for the title). This is from Eric Bischoff's interview.


I think this weeks promo clears up one thing. The mystery person is not Kong!


But my money is on Taker, always has been. If it's just Taker on the 21st I will NOT be disappointed. Was not expectin Sting. If Sting is there which I highly doubt, I will MTFO

 

[NotoriousMEAT]

Based off WZ's recent report of big plans for Taker and the possible involvement, I'm gonna have to say my guess is that on 2.21.11, ol' HBK will return in some capacity. Obviously not to wrestle, but there's a couple of clues that I've been wondering about, that really click when you insert HBK into the situation.

1. The person in the promo just didn't look big enough to be Taker. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't see that as a 6'10, 300 lbs frame.

2. Whoever it was, was wearing black COWBOY boots. Now when I first thought Sting, then started accepting it was Taker.. that was the one thing that had be scratching my head. Why in the hell cowboys boots? When the feud got creative last year between HBK and Taker, Shawn went as far as to dress as Taker, except in white, use the smoke, do the entrance, all that jazz. Now maybe he show's up in black, as a sort of "back from the dead" of his own.

3. This week they again used "Ain't No Grave" by Johnny Cash, which a lot of people remember being used in the promo last year for the Taker/HBK Mania match. While that led a lot people to say it was definitely Taker, let's not forget... HBK was part of that promo too.

4. The date. By now we've all figured out that 2.21.11 is the Monday Night RAW after Elimination Chamber, and I cannot for the life of me figure out any reason for Taker to be on RAW. Out of his talked about opponents... Wade Barrett is on Smackdown, Triple H has yet to return, and Sting hasn't even apparently talked to the WWE. The last person he feuded with, Kane, is also on Smackdown. I just don't see the point of him on RAW.

5. Complete Predictability. One reason I didn't wanna believe it was Taker, was the sheer obviousness of it. Would they really spend time on these promo's, that looked like Taker, sounded like Taker, and was mysterious like Taker? We're on the Road to Wrestlemania, and the night after EC we'll literally be smack dab in the middle of Wrestlemania season. This is the time where they usually try to throw in swerves and get us excited.

I think the timing is perfect with Shawn on the verge on induction into the HOF. And really, unless they plan on getting Sting or maybe even Goldberg to face Taker at Mania, there isn't really anyone else on the roster to put up against him that's gonna be a big time match. So they bring back the now HOF HBK who spent the better part of the previous 2 years feuding with Taker and putting on 2 classic matches, then ultimately lost his career because of him. How he's involved in the feud or match for Mania.. I have no idea. But I'm very interested to find out.

 

[Stephen11]

I don't think there's any possible way it could anyone except the Undertaker. I don't think WWE expected so much talk about the promo because they didn't realize that it would be mistaken for Sting possibly coming to WWE.

 

[coolo]

Takers last hurrah ?
What better way to promote one of the greats in the WWE with one final run all the way to Wrestlemania and of course he would be not only on Smackdown but on Raw, the A show to mark the occasion.
Nobody predicted HBK retiring at WM 26 at this time before the Chamber even tho every1 knew the match would be set at the grandest stage of them all.
Wade Barrett plans dropped opens up a UT-John Cena match because of the previous storyline with the old Nexus
The opponent for Miz however goes up in the air.

My theory is ut vs or tagging with sting at wm
or taker vs cena in the final match of UT illustrious career.

Both have that big fight feel. However it hurts the WWE Championship match with the Miz.

 

[VCUpkunk11]

Ok there's been several different assumptions of who it could be.

1. Some people think it's Sting because of the rumors of him signing w/ WWE even tho there has been nothing official on it.

2. The main person people think it could be is Undertaker because of the Darkness and the song in the promo video. But it begs the question why would he be coming to RAW when he's mostly been on Smackdown? I can't even remember last time he was on Raw other then the bit with Shawn Michaels and facing him at Wrestlemania.


But after watching it over and over. I had another guess.... and some of you might have guessed it too.... but I think it could be... Triple H.

The reason I think it could be him, is because in the most recent video for the 2/21/11 promo, if you look close enough not only does he have the trench coat or w/e on, but if you look close enough it almost looks like he's wearing jeans, and Undertaker doesnt wear jeans.

Plus everyone's been guessing when he's coming back, most thought it would be the Rumble, but that woulda been too easy of a guess because a lot of wrestlers make their return there. Others have said it could be Elimination Chamber, because of Triple H's history in the EC, plus because of his rivalries w/ Orton, Cena and Shaemus who are all in the EC for Raw.

And to try and hide it even more, they threw in the darkness, the lightning, the song, and thus why everyone would guess its Undertaker, when it fact it might actually be Triple H. Plus I remember someone on one of these forums saying that whenever Triple H does return, the show or PPV would revolve around him. So the 2/21/11 promo I believe is about Triple H returning to Raw, and he'll probabaly start by beating the crap of Shaemus who put him on the sidelines for so long.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Ok there's been several different assumptions of who it could be.

1. Some people think it's Sting because of the rumors of him signing w/ WWE even tho there has been nothing official on it.

2. The main person people think it could be is Undertaker because of the Darkness and the song in the promo video. But it begs the question why would he be coming to RAW when he's mostly been on Smackdown? I can't even remember last time he was on Raw other then the bit with Shawn Michaels and facing him at Wrestlemania.


But after watching it over and over. I had another guess.... and some of you might have guessed it too.... but I think it could be... Triple H.

The reason I think it could be him, is because in the most recent video for the 2/21/11 promo, if you look close enough not only does he have the trench coat or w/e on, but if you look close enough it almost looks like he's wearing jeans, and Undertaker doesnt wear jeans.

Plus everyone's been guessing when he's coming back, most thought it would be the Rumble, but that woulda been too easy of a guess because a lot of wrestlers make their return there. Others have said it could be Elimination Chamber, because of Triple H's history in the EC, plus because of his rivalries w/ Orton, Cena and Shaemus who are all in the EC for Raw.

And to try and hide it even more, they threw in the darkness, the lightning, the song, and thus why everyone would guess its Undertaker, when it fact it might actually be Triple H. Plus I remember someone on one of these forums saying that whenever Triple H does return, the show or PPV would revolve around him. So the 2/21/11 promo I believe is about Triple H returning to Raw, and he'll probabaly start by beating the crap of Shaemus who put him on the sidelines for so long.

I've thought about that and it does make some sense. Plus it would fit the Triple H character like "haha I fooled you."

However, what about the arenas that accidentally advertised the return of the undertaker (including the arena that is hosting the 2.21.11 RAW)?

 

[A Mod's Best Friend (aka Bitch)]

Guys, i know this is driving some of you guys nuts, but you have to hear this. PLEASE! Listen around 0.35-0.36 you hear a crow and a person speak at the same time, as in he's speaking in crow.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s7_7z5HoIk[/YOUTUBE]

This is perhaps the funniest thing i have ever read. Also, if you play it backwards there is a crow with a scrawny little voice that says "Sting is not coming". I believe this has to be the reason why it'll be Undertaker appearing on the 21st.

 

[hunterXhunter21]

I saw a bat in the video, and i took a pic of it. But the mods took it off......

I saw the pic but didn't see anything. Why didn't you just take a screen cap? You can press print screen then paste it in paint. But you didn't even say what it was. It just looked like a dirty screen with words blurred at the top.

But I tried looking at the second video frame by frame to see if you can see anything but I didn't see anything.

 

[Marky-Marc]

All signs point to Undertaker. But something about this has to be a surprise. I'm still hoping for Sting, but not expecting it.

I think where the surprise comes in is why he's back. And i think with the recent report that the Taker/Barrett match at Mania has been scrapped, I think this is where the surprise comes in.

IDK how they could work it out, but it could work. What if they set up a Taker/Sheamus match at Mania? I'd love it and think it could be real good, and even though Sheamus won't win he is a legit threat to beat the Undertaker.

I know everyone thinks he'll fight HHH but what if they put that off for a month or two, Vince isn't usually a fan of back to back Mania matches (HBK/Taker being an exception because it's what Shwan asked for).

I could be totally worng but I find it wierd that he'll return to Raw when he's not a Raw star.

 

[Yankees4Life]

^ Thanks man

You can see the bat on the left. When you play the video it tries to trick you with the outside of his jacket. But as you can see from this shot, the bat and the outside of his jacket,

 

[Rated M-I]

IDK how they could work it out, but it could work. What if they set up a Taker/Sheamus match at Mania? I'd love it and think it could be real good, and even though Sheamus won't win he is a legit threat to beat the Undertaker.

Sorry, what? The man who got tooled by John Morrison, the man who just got crushed by Mark Henry, is now suddenly a legit threat to end the streak?

I'm not saying you couldn't easily make Sheamus a threat, I'm just saying if Taker comes back and Sheamus walks out and announces he wants him at Mania, the entire wrestling world will point and laugh. You would have to do some serious repair work with the Sheamus character before that happens, and to be honest... if that's what was going to happen it should have started at the rumble with him getting to the final 3 or 4 and getting screwed.

On the subject of who it is... I would freak out if it was actually Sting. I'll be just as happy if it's Taker. As long as they do a good job, I don't really care who it is. All this crap of "look at his shoes", or "the smoke says it's Sting", or "if you play the new Justin Beiber song backwards, it tells you who it is because he was going to play at mania and we all want to see sting at mania and it must be true then" is a load of garbage.

You guys are finding things because it's what you want to have happen, not because it's actually there. His SHOES?? Are you friggin serious?? I could wear the same outfit in the video and you guys would all think I'm Sting! Then when I walk through the curtain you'd all say, "I told you it wasn't Sting, that guy is a little shorter and you could see it in the video".

Let it happen. I know I am, and I'm gonna be god damn excited watching raw on the 21st.

 

[Strong Style X]

I don't see what the big deal about Undertaker returning on Raw is. OMGZ he can't return on Raw it's not his show. Um? The brands are practically non-existent. Back when they started there was absolutely no crossovers done between the brands. Now it's common sight to see Raw guys on SmackDown, SmackDown guys on Raw, TNA guys working at Wendy's; you get the point. There's nothing wrong or weird about it. Raw is the flagship show and it's WrestleMania season. When else to have the man come back?

 

[sxeholmes]

With the new 2/21/11 video airing on Raw everyone is now dead set that it's for The Undertaker, they have a strong argument as the video has some very obvious hints at the Taker. The most obvious is the Johnny Cash song that has been used before to build up the Taker/Michaels feud.

Here is my problem though, It's almost too obvious. To me WWE is trying to convince everyone that it's definitely The Undertaker. They've made it so obvious that i'm almost 100 % sure that it won't be The Undertaker.

As for who it will be, that I can't tell you. I'm relatively sure that it won't be sting now but what's the only thing that's for sure about sting? Nothings for sure.

 

[VCUpkunk11]

I've thought about that and it does make some sense. Plus it would fit the Triple H character like "haha I fooled you."

However, what about the arenas that accidentally advertised the return of the undertaker (including the arena that is hosting the 2.21.11 RAW)?

Yea but for what reason would he be going to Raw? I mean Kane is on Smackdown, Shawn Michaels is retired from wrestling, Edge who he's had a rivalry with is on Smackdown. Why would he come back and randomly join Raw? Oh plus w/ the speculation of Barrett vs Taker at Wrestlemania... theres another reason he'd go to Smackdown. Plus his wife Michelle McCool is mainly on Smackdown, even though she's been on Raw too.

Only reason I could see him coming to Raw is to get away from Vickie.


No matter whether its sting, taker or HHH, I'll be happy, I like all 3 of those guys.

I've pretty much narrowed it down to Taker or HHH, but I honestly think its HHH because of what I stated earlier. First 2 people everyone is going to think it is, are Sting... who still has yet to officially sign w/ WWE and Taker because of the Darkness, Lightning, and the song in the background, but that'd make it too obvious if it was Taker.

But HHH was on raw, and has a reason to come back to Raw- ecspecially because of Shaemus who put him on the shelf to begin with. Plus people knew he was close to being back, first thought was hes coming back at the Rumble, but nope. then u got people saying the EC on 2/20, which is possible because of his history in the EC, but I honestly think its going to be HHH who returns on 2/21

 

[Yankees4Life]

With the new 2/21/11 video airing on Raw everyone is now dead set that it's for The Undertaker, they have a strong argument as the video has some very obvious hints at the Taker. The most obvious is the Johnny Cash song that has been used before to build up the Taker/Michaels feud.

Here is my problem though, It's almost too obvious. To me WWE is trying to convince everyone that it's definitely The Undertaker. They've made it so obvious that i'm almost 100 % sure that it won't be The Undertaker.

As for who it will be, that I can't tell you. I'm relatively sure that it won't be sting now but what's the only thing that's for sure about sting? Nothings for sure.

THANK YOU THANK YOU !


Thats what i've been trying to tell ppl but it just goes from one ear out the other.

WWE wants to shock the world. There not leading to WM with disappointment.

 

[streicher187]

if It's taker, I'm thinking maybe they will have a grand plan for taker to wrestle more then once at Mania so he can end this year at 20-0 in case he isn't healty enough to go next year..

If they are using him as a big selling point for mania there has to be a reason, either a huge opponent or it will be his last..

Has anyone thought the guy with the cowboy boots is the new GM, the new sheriff coming to town?

 

[mral82]

I think the whole 2:21:2011 will be a day to find out and hopefully be not a disapointment like the Taker. I think everybody has taken the bait and everyone will be deceived by this.

Here's a fine example who thought Booker T or Kevin Nash would be in the Rumble this year not me. I believed that Big Kev was going to pay a kid a visit and watch it w/ him.

The WWE does not let us down w/ stuff like these. So in 11 days the WWE will shock us like the night WCW was bought and Shane and Vince was Via satellite 10 yrs ago. I hope HBK finally persuaded his buddy Steve to give the WWE a shot as we know Shawn and Steve are good buds.

 

[The Idiot]

THANK YOU THANK YOU !


Thats what i've been trying to tell ppl but it just goes from one ear out the other.

WWE wants to shock the world. There not leading to WM with disappointment.

How long have you been watching wrestling?

Disappointments happen all the time....and prepare for another one. Not to be pessimistic...but it's not going to be Sting. Anyone BUT him at this point WILL be a disapointment.

 

[A Mod's Best Friend (aka Bitch)]

THANK YOU THANK YOU !


Thats what i've been trying to tell ppl but it just goes from one ear out the other.

WWE wants to shock the world. There not leading to WM with disappointment.

This will be sig worthy when it is revealed

With the way RAW is going, i wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of dark character from Mexico.

The fact though the first video led so heavily to a reaction of "OMG IT'S STING", the WWE has been swift in crushing that rumor very quickly as it will ultimately disappoint the fans. The heat isn't going away though and the 2nd video more or less tried to make it obvious it WASN'T Sting.

You have to remember, the IWC takes up like maybe .5% of the WWE's fanbase. The other 99.5% would have no idea about the songs being related to the Undertaker. For them, this surprise is still in the air and would maybe not have as much of an impact on them than the IWC.

 

[Yankees4Life]

This will be sig worthy when it is revealed

With the way RAW is going, i wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of dark character from Mexico.

The fact though the first video led so heavily to a reaction of "OMG IT'S STING", the WWE has been swift in crushing that rumor very quickly as it will ultimately disappoint the fans. The heat isn't going away though and the 2nd video more or less tried to make it obvious it WASN'T Sting.

You have to remember, the IWC takes up like maybe .5% of the WWE's fanbase. The other 99.5% would have no idea about the songs being related to the Undertaker. For them, this surprise is still in the air and would maybe not have as much of an impact on them than the IWC.

The thing about some fans who are now down that it MIGHT NOT be Sting, is that they don't look at the videos for clues. They think clues are gonna be right on front of you face. You have to look for them. But these ppl don't get it.

Also, i can't see the WWE making a mega and mysteries and anticipated return like this for the Undertaker. And they haven't even showed his face; hell, they haven't even shown his chest.

 

[Jay85]

It's Taker. His last comeback had no hype, but I think this will be his final comeback. It is odd they would hype this return like this, when all of his other ones had promos that directly said it was the Undertaker, except for when the druids would leave flowers on people before he started the ministry. This promo ties in to the Undertaker.

 

[postapocalyptichalo]

This will be sig worthy when it is revealed

With the way RAW is going, i wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of dark character from Mexico.

The fact though the first video led so heavily to a reaction of "OMG IT'S STING", the WWE has been swift in crushing that rumor very quickly as it will ultimately disappoint the fans. The heat isn't going away though and the 2nd video more or less tried to make it obvious it WASN'T Sting.

You have to remember, the IWC takes up like maybe .5% of the WWE's fanbase. The other 99.5% would have no idea about the songs being related to the Undertaker. For them, this surprise is still in the air and would maybe not have as much of an impact on them than the IWC.

This statement confuses me though, really.
Exaggeration much?
I mean, how many people use the internet?
TONS.
Its become a mainstream thing.
Wrestling and non-wrestling fans alike use the internet like its their livelihood.
So are the dirtsheets considered .5% of the fanbase, or the people who view the dirtsheets?
I believe the percentage of IWC community who are WWE fans is much higher than people claim.
Regardless of whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[kingk12]

It is definatly the undertaker pause the new video when they show the door, and look the undertakers logo is on the door that cross with the x on it. No doubt its the deadman. They are toying with us using another person in the promos, but its definatly the undertaker.

 

[dr.greenthumb]

you'd think by now someone from tna would have said he's in negotiations with the company or sting himself would have been contacted to get his opinion and to squash the idea, or the wwe would have issued a statement. the fact that none of these have happened tho.

NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT.

see ya soon stinger.