Raw LD 9/12/2016: There Are Worse Things To Watch

[Fire Marshall Bill]

From a kayfabe standpoint, successfully defending the title for a long time builds a legacy. Anyone can win the title on a fluke. MITB is a great example of that.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

From a kayfabe standpoint, successfully defending the title for a long time builds a legacy. Anyone can win the title on a fluke. MITB is a great example of that.

That's why days as champion should count more than number of reigns.

Ric Flair has 3000 days as champion and Cena has 1000 days, but people will still get pissed when Cena reaches #16 and WWE will still say that Cena and Flair are tied.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

Then don't complain that RAW highlighting Backlash is annoying you then.



Actually managed to catch most of it.

I was being sarcastic , because most of this guys here think that the shows pushing the other is actually lack of logic... What can I say?

 

[BaconBits]

Boost Mobile, still attempting to market itself as a legitimate phone company.

 

[Sean Valjean]

You can get The Rock in most movies and TV programming, but I get you WWE.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Most probably. Is that helping in terms of gaining interest in the product or will it transition back to the clear cut stuff in time?

It's hit and miss for me. I think in general it's bad for interest, because it can confuse newcomers (and children who are a big target), but that's just my immediate thoughts and would be willing to at least listen to arguments sometime.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Reigns sure is a big fella.

 

[klunderbunker]

From a kayfabe standpoint, successfully defending the title for a long time builds a legacy. Anyone can win the title on a fluke. MITB is a great example of that.

True but Rollins won it clean via pin. For some reason that doesn't count in WWE's new line of thinking.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

That was awkward.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Fans should really stop with those Boos. Reigns is great in the ring.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

True but Rollins won it clean via pin. For some reason that doesn't count in WWE's new line of thinking.

More like completely forgotten. Styles isn't having a problem pushing that he beat Cena.

 

[BaconBits]

Fans should really stop with those Boos. Reigns is great in the ring.

I don't think it's his ring work. It's that literally everything about the guy screams heel and they insisted on keeping him face.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Fans should really stop with those Boos. Reigns is great in the ring.

I don't know about great, but many wrestling fans fail to understand different people have different styles. Makes little sense for Reigns to have the move set of Daniel Bryan or the like.

 

[klunderbunker]

More like completely forgotten. Styles isn't having a problem pushing that he beat Cena.

Probably so but it's still bad thinking. That Ziggler/Ambrose promo talking about how Ziggler has never gotten the ball and scored is still one of the worst things I've heard in years.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Probably so but it's still bad thinking. That Ziggler/Ambrose promo talking about how Ziggler has never gotten the ball and scored is still one of the worst things I've heard in years.

I still forget to watch Smackdown. Is it because it's extremely true? DZ's been given chance after chance and it's never worked.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

WWE should develop a K/D function to count the greatness of a title reign.

Greatness (G), G=TD/D. Title Defenses (TD), Days as champion (D).

Wrestler A has 4 title defenses and 80 days as champion, while wrestler B has 40 title defenses and 60 days as champion. Wrestler A (G)=0,05. Wrestler B (G)=0,66.

The closest G is to 1, the greater the reign. If G=1 or over, then we have a perfect reign.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

WWE should develop a K/D function to count the greatness of a title reign.

Greatness (G), G=TD/D. Title Defenses (TD), Days as champion (D).

Wrestler A has 4 title defenses and 80 days as champion, while wrestler B has 40 title defenses and 60 days as champion. Wrestler A (G)=0,05. Wrestler B (G)=0,66.

The closest G is to 1, the greater the reign. If G=1 or over, then we have a perfect reign.

I know you're just spitballing, so I'm not going to go into how many things don't work with that, but it doesn't.

I like your enthusiasm though.

 

[L@RISANO]

It's hit and miss for me. I think in general it's bad for interest, because it can confuse newcomers (and children who are a big target), but that's just my immediate thoughts and would be willing to at least listen to arguments sometime.

Just take for example the segment with Rollins and Owens. One is supposedly transitioning to babyface, but he still seems as cowardly and snivelling as ever, and the second guy seems much the same. Who do I root for in all of this, considering the third guy in all of this gets mercilessly booed even though he is the one being the hero type?


With that said: Cheer Clear Heel, Boo Clear Faces. How does that in a widespread manner like today's WWE affect attracting casual fans?
Actually, Dean F'n Ambrose was booed at Backlash last night and quite audibly at that.

 

[BaconBits]

You know what would really help the Shield guys in their singles pursuits? They should have extended feuds with guys who weren't in the Shield. Getting away from that has helped Ambrose immensely.

And it'll make the inevitable Shield reunion down the road much, much sweeter.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

I know you're just spitballing, so I'm not going to go into how many things don't work with that, but it doesn't.

I like your enthusiasm though.

It'd be good for statistics though.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

"We're gonna have a talk?"

What a threat...

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

Still no Rusev tonight. The US Championship is officially retired.

 

[klunderbunker]

I still forget to watch Smackdown. Is it because it's extremely true? DZ's been given chance after chance and it's never worked.

Well now apparently he's never won the big one because two World Title reigns don't count as doing anything in the new WWE.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Just take for example the segment with Rollins and Owens. One is supposedly transitioning to babyface, but he still seems as cowardly and snivelling as ever, and the second guy seems much the same. Who do I root for in all of this, considering the third guy in all of this gets mercilessly booed even though he is the one being the hero type?


With that said: Cheer Clear Heel, Boo Clear Faces. How does that in a widespread manner like today's WWE affect attracting casual fans?
Actually, Dean F'n Ambrose was booed at Backlash last night and quite audibly at that.

I wouldn't base everything off of live crowd reactions. Especially those in bigger cities.

 

[BaconBits]

Still no Rusev tonight. The US Championship is officially retired.

He's on his honeymoon. He's due back in a few weeks.