What are you talking about? When has he ever gone into a feud or match with the smugness and confidence he does now. It was always "I'll bring it" or "I'll do whatever it takes" or "I don't know if I can, but if you want some, come get some". Now it's like "You have no chance" or "Who are you?".
Last time i heard the "If you want some.." routine, was before the GAB when Kennedy and Booker stopped the contract signing,less than a month ago; and if by "you have no chance" attitude, you are refering to the poor comedy segments when he mocks Mr Kennedy...now that's confidence.
It's different. Maybe it should be less subtle so fans who don't get subtlety understand it. I don't know. 1)Hell, there are still people who think he's a Marine. Maybe that's the problem. 2)IWC wrestling fans aren't smart enough to catch on to the subtleties. I don't know.
1) 7 years old kids maybe??
2) are you suggesting that IWC are not smart enough to catch the deepness and complexity of John Cena's character? I think we got it since Hogan: There's always an invincible superhero, with some stones on the road, but nothing really serious...come on, even the 7 years old on number 1 knows this.
No, because I don't read WWE.com...kind of like most wrestling viewers. How did Lashley "pwn" (which isn't even a word) Cena? Cena made Lashley look like the upstart challenger, and put him down the entire time.
funny, because a lot of the threads here regarding news, events or just random wrestlers notes are based on WWE.com info. Unless you believe all the time what the "accurate" Ryan Clark and pals has to say, of course.
And regarding the word PWN..Slyfox isn't even a WZ nickname.. dont believe me? Check slyfox.com LOL!
Or maybe it's because Triple H is gone, Vince McMahon is gone, HBK is gone etc.?
Triple H has been airing his return promos at least for 1 month and a half, and nothing happened to the ratings, Vince "died", and we couldn't see the ratings exploding, HBK has a career threatening injury vs Orton, and nobody gave a fuck, at least ratings didnt show that.
dont you think that Cena showing on everysingle PPV as the RAW main event, has something to do with the actual ratings? Why dont you say that to the countless fans who thinks that this year PPVs, were so bad, with some mediocre exceptions. And I really dont care if Cena wins at Summerslam, but the main thing is, he has everything to deliver a true Classic against Randy Orton, so he can lift those ratings again. He just need to "deliver". Not gonna happen though.
Bullshit. No one thought Carlito would pin Cena 1-2-3 without some kind of physical interference from Orton. And, when I say physical interference, I mean an RKO or a chair shot or something like that. Orton did little more than tickle Cena, while Carlito used the Backstabber for the win. No one thought that Carlito would go over Cena clean 1-2-3, with only minor outside distraction from Orton.
Sorry, but it would had been pointless to watch a brawl between Orton and Cena, or even a chairshot or another RKO. Why? They need to create a tense atmosphere between them, but without giving the edge to just one. If Orton had attacked Cena, he would had the edge for the match, thus making it less anticipated.
And I know Randy already gave him an RKO, but that was just for oppening the feud.
1)Donald Trump's not a wrestler.
2)But, are we really going to compare Steve Austin and Carlito and decide who has (in kayfabe) a more powerful finisher?
1) Thats worse, the Donald selling the move better than the champ. Shame on him.
2)No, i was just talking how BAD he sells the move, not how LONG.
What are you talking about? If I were to kick you in the back, would you still be clutching and grabbing your back and making awful pain faces 3 minutes afterward? If you did, I'd call you a major wimp. A minute is MORE than enough time to get the pain shaken out from one move.
Oh, and here's the video for you. I want you to show me how "quickly" Cena got up. Also, keep in mind that when the camera is on Carlito and going through the replay, not to mention when they are off the air, you have no idea what Cena is doing with his face.
It takes Cena nearly a minute to get to his feet. He sold it as hard as most wrestlers do and as much as was realistic. You lose.
My apologies, i didnt know that one minute is the standard time for selling a finisher.
The sad part is other wrestlers sells (or sold) his moves way better than the champ. Example: Chris Benoit. You say that Cena over-sell his moves? Benoit used to sold his in less time, and a million times better.
And if you call me a major-wimp, i would tell Prax, so he could ban you
And unfortunately, i cant see youtube here at work(bastards!), but i promise to check when i get home.
And i didn't loose. Cena Did.
Again, Cena's biggest problem was OVER selling, not the no-selling. And, I'll admit, his instance of OVER selling was poor. But, again, that doesn't make him a bad seller. If one instance of poor selling makes him a bad seller, than Randy Savage, Ricky Steamboat, Ric Flair, Harley Race, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, Chris Benoit etc. are all poor sellers.
One instance of poor selling in the countless matches he's had does not make him a poor seller. To continue to claim otherwise is completely ignorant.
Maybe you want to read my post again, At the end, you will find this:
Originally posted by ME: Personally, i dont think Cena is a terrible seller, but sometimes his "superior" attitude makes him forget that he is one more backthere.
that instance of selling (we wont agree if it was no-selling or over-selling, so, i'll keep it just as "selling", temporary) was POOR. Thus resting shine to the match. Sure, he knows how to do it
(...Countless matches...)
so, why he didn't do it? Maybe he is the ignorant one.
