MMA January Discussion is Awaiting The End of Rampage

Nick Diaz showed up to the press conference in Montreal today.

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It's a fight that has been long simmering in the mind of Nick Diaz. Go back to the summer of 2008, and there you can find the first public mention Diaz made of fighting Georges St-Pierre. At the time, Diaz was just two fights into his return to welterweight, and fighting in the short-lived EliteXC. There was not just a promotion separating them, but also a host of other, higher-ranked contenders. From Jon Fitch to Josh Koscheck, from Matt Hughes to Diego Sanchez, even Diaz's own teammate Jake Shields was above him in the divisional pecking order. The distance between the two was substantial.

But as time passed, he kept winning and winning, and before long, the long shot from Stockton began closing the distance, winning a championship, coming to the UFC, building his name as a draw and his reputation as a legitimate threat. Through it all, his blood kept boiling for a fight with St-Pierre. It was one he was finally supposed to get in 2012 before he skipped a press conference and was removed from the challenger slot, and then one he apparently lost for good after losing to Carlos Condit.

It was St-Pierre that flipped the script. He wanted Diaz, too, and a chance to shut him up.

On Wednesday, the two met face to face in Montreal, at a press conference at the Bell Centre to publicize their championship bout at UFC 158. And after all those years of waiting, after all that pent-up aggression, after success and disappointment and a yearlong ride on the emotional roller coaster, Diaz was …. Nice. Pleasant. Even personable.

The notoriously press averse fighter was on time. He was polite and well-spoken. He offered moments of self-reflection. He even said nice things about St-Pierre. If you were looking for animosity, there was nothing aside from the fact that champion and challenger didn't share a handshake after a photo face-off. If you were looking for symbolism, the only thing there was St-Pierre wearing white and Diaz wearing black.

Aside from that, Diaz was a man who appeared content and poised, and yes, even a little bit contrite, apologizing in his own way for the fact that the reason it's taken an extra year for the fight to materialize lies with his mistake.

"I didn't make it to the last press conference," he said. "It wasn’t very professional on my part, but I just was ready to fight. I was ready to go to the fight and fight. I thought that was the important part but I had to learn my lesson. So, there's a lesson learned from this, and now I'm ready to fight."

Diaz was far from the trash-talker we've seen in the past. In fact, even when he was given a chance to offer something he didn't like about his opponent, he declined to take the dangling bait.

"I like my opponent," he said. "That’s why I want to fight him. I don't mean to say it like that, but he’s the No. 1 guy to beat. That's what you want. I’ve been wanting his spot. He’s got the spot. He’s the guy to beat. "

That's it?

"I like him just fine," he said once, then again after being pressed.

Could it get any more surreal, any more genteel? Yes, it could. Just seconds later as Diaz recalled his history of "running his mouth" about St-Pierre, he came to something of a realization.

"I had no room to run my mouth and talk," he said. "I was promoting this fight. I got the fight I wanted. I can't complain now."

And then he said it again, "I like him just fine."

Who was this man, and what had he done with our Stockton slapper? Perhaps with two months to go until UFC 158, Diaz was simply more at ease than he is during fight week. Maybe he's just getting older and more mature. Maybe the time away from the sport has done him good. Or perhaps he was happy he's finally gotten what he's wanted all along. It could be a combination of all of those, or something else entirely. With Diaz, who knows?

St-Pierre took it all in stoically, never cracking a smile while repeating several times that his interest in fighting Diaz comes from his feeling that Diaz is the top contender, yes, even ahead of Johny Hendricks, who St-Pierre believes lost to Josh Koscheck in 2012.

While the champion would offer little in the way of his feelings for Diaz, he acknowledged that "there is a story between us," one that was ready to reach its final conclusion.

"I'm not a coward," St-Pierre said. "I never duck nobody. I never run away from nobody. Now is his chance. He deserves it. I'm willing to give it to him and I'm happy to give it to him."

But that's all St-Pierre will give him, he promises. Maybe that and a beating. The challenger, he says, will bring the best out of him.

But on Wednesday, it was the unpredictable Diaz who brought the first surprise. The newly refined version of MMA's rawest personality even said it was "fun to be here" in Montreal.

Verbose, candid and relaxed, Diaz seemed at home in the spotlight, in the same city, in the same arena where he'll get his long-awaited fight in less than two months. With that piece of mandatory business out of the way, Diaz returns home to continue camp and keep the MMA world waiting to see which version of him shows up to fight week.

Very different kind of Nick Diaz. I'm glad to see it, but I'm sure it's has to do with the fact that the fight is still months away rather than a week. It's easier to be "pleasant" when you're not cutting weight and preparing your mind to go to war with someone.
 
I don't know a whole lot about him. I saw him beat Bret Rodgers in person, that fight was average. He is a more entertaining heavyweight than Cole Konrad was, I do know that. I think he is young enough that he can grow into a really good fighter, because right now outside of Bellator, he doesn't have the most polished record to judge.

Konrad would've been a decent mid-tier HW in the UFC.
 
I know I'm not in the minority when I say that I have always found Ben Askren to be nearly unwatchable. No one can deny how smotheringly effective his top control is, but watching him work to maintain that control for 3-5 rounds while only mixing in enough pillow-like ground and pound to avoid being stood up by the ref is mind-numbing television.

Having said that, I want to give the man some credit. Askren's ground striking last night was world's better than anything I've ever seen him bring into the cage. If he can continue to increase the amount of power he can get into those elbows from the top he is going to drastically change the way his oponents view him heading into fights one bashed up face at a time.

An evolving Ben Askren may prove to be quite a scary thing.
 
I still hate Askren accordingly.

Anyways, just watched the weigh-ins for the Fox card tomorrow. VERY intense staredown between Rampage and Glover. I'm really looking forward to that fight and the show period; I just wish Pettis/Cerrone was the main event instead of the midgets. Pettis vs. Cerrone should be a 5 Rounder. I, and I think most, couldn't care less about the actual main event. I still don't get the idea of them headlining Fox with that fight, especially when Fox won't even promote their weightclass.
 
Cerrone/Pettis not even being considered as the "co" main event is ridiculous.

Hopefully it will be as good as expected, and close, and they'll just make an immediate rematch and give it the five rounds it deserves. It's not like they're gonna give Pettis the "guaranteed" title shot he earned anytime soon anyways.
 
I care about the main event. I just love John Dodson. Outside of Forrest I don't think there is a guy I fell more in love with on TUF. Maybe Cody McKenzie, because he trolled the hell out of Kos.
 
Who let Rampage Jackson near a microphone?

“Not many fighters respect Chael Sonnen because he’s in the wrong sport. He should be in pro-wrestling with a mouth like that."

Claps hands.

Brilliant insult Rampage. Never heard that one before. At least most of those fighters say they don't respect him as a person but they respect him as a fighter. Where you been Jackson?

"I’m not going to stoop to his level. Why is he even worried about me and my fight? It has nothing to do to him. He’s probably the only guy I’d ever duck, I’d duck him in a second because he’s a boring fight."

If you would duck one then you would duck them all. You wouldn't fight Chael because you'd be on your back for three rounds while he punched you in the face.

"He’s one of the fighters that’s making MMA go down, he’s like a cancer to our sport. He’s a great wrestler but he’s boring as hell. You know what he’s going to do, he’s going to try and take you down and lay on you. Why do people even buy tickets to watch this guy fight?"

They buy tickets because he's the best trash talker in the damn business. He's one of the top five PPV draws the UFC has at the moment. That puts him with GSP, Anderson Silva, Rashad Evans and Jon Jones.

Does Rampage not understand that more people watching is a good thing for the sport? Chael brings in people because of the crazy shit he says. I'm a perfect example of a fan who started watching because of Chael Sonnen. The whole lay thing is crap, this is Chael not Yushin. Chael actually punches and works his opponent.

"He’s a cancer for our sport. He’s the reason why I don’t even watch my own sport because a lot of fighters fight like him nowadays. That’s not what MMA was built on. MMA was built on exciting fighters where people try to end each other.”

Well Rampage it would seem that since Chael is a top five PPV draw in the UFC that would mean people like watching him. That's not a cancer (I do hate when people say something is a cancer to an activity) you fool. Listen Rampage, just because people don't just stand in your way and let you punch them doesn't mean it's not exciting.

Now go and play with those other guys while Chael takes your old belt.
 
Even though I despise Chael personally(mostly just because he is an outspoken conservative and I despise all people with that trait), I am smart enough to admit that he is a master at selling a fight. And I don't think he even believes 80% of what comes out of his own mouth anyway.

Having said that, I know that most of what Rampage said is full of shit.

But...
The whole lay thing is crap, this is Chael not Yushin. Chael actually punches and works his opponent.

What Rampage said about Chael's fighting style is actually dead on. Yes Chael works while on top. But, the punches and elbows that he throws are baby shots and nine out of ten of them have less than zero power behind them. He is active enough with his ground striking to avoid a standup, but that is it. He's very good at sitting in guard controlling his man and doing basically no damage while hoping to avoid being caught with his horrible submission defense until he can work a decision. That is just how it is.
 
Nate Diaz vs. Josh Thomson is going down on the next Fox show.

Great fight, tough to call. Thomson when healthy and on is easily a top 10 Lightweight. He's very fast and athletic, and his offensive wrestling is phenomenal.

That said, if he can't get Nate on the ground, then he'll be in serious trouble, despite being very good standing in his own right. Definitely looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
 
Chael Sonnen is Jon Fitch with a mouth. Think about it... he's got awesome wrestling, is really active, and can beat all of the guys in his division except the top guys.
 

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