*MERGED* [OFFICIAL] The Nexus General Discussion thread

[patriotjay]

I actually cannot see the logic in this at all.

Of all the guys (outside of Barrett), I doubt that Gabriel is in the best position to capture a mid-card Championship and giving it to him would only serve to reinforce the view that the mid-card Championships are for the people who lack the size or fortune to get into the main event – for the most part anyway.

I mean, let us look at some of the last mid-card Champions and see how their careers have went for them, shall we?

R-Truth – The less that is said about his reign, the better. It was tiny and he was eventually brushed aside by The Miz after being handed the US Championship. He is now feuding with people like Ted DiBiase and he has gone nowhere.

Drew McIntyre – You can say all you want about his Visa issues but at the end of the day, he only has himself to blame for being so pathetically boring that no one wants to see him perform.

MVP – Again, he showed some promise but is still feuding with the mid-card after being with the WWE for long enough to typically merit a place in the main event scene on a show. I wouldn’t say he has been bad at anything and his mid-card reign was pretty damn good. Yet, look where he is now.

The fact of the matter, is that outside of The Miz, the mid-card talent just don’t really have what it takes to make that jump and that is not how I see Gabriel. I think once all of this is said and done, you will see Gabriel pushing for a spot in the main event and a mid-card Championship would basically tear that opportunity away from him.

I pretty much agree with you with one exception I said bring noteriety back.I realize the midcard titles have gonn to shit and maybe instead of the old formula where those titles were catopults to world titles they should go a different route and give us the best matches available from the mid card level instead of guys like Evan Bourne being teamed with Cena and thrown in the main event mix where they are bound to get lost in the shuffle let these guys feud with theyre equals and since the U.S and IC titles dont meen anything anymore throw those belts in the mix and it gives these guys somthing to fight for considering Gabriel,Truth,Bourne,Kofi,etc arent gonna be in the world title picture anyway.Seems like these days your in the world title picture or just mediocre,And I think any talent good enough for a world title will get one eventually maybe guys like MVP,R-truth,and Mcintyre are just supposed to be stuck in midcard limbo forever.There were alot of talented guys in the 80s like Jake Roberts,Mr.Perfect,Ricky Steamboat(won the wcw/nwa world title) that just never got to main event status.Thats one thing I dont like about wrestling these days it seems like every talented guy is gonna end up with a title.Not everybody has to be an eventual WWE champion.

 

[Boondocks]

How could people really see all 7 of the Nexus members being in the WWE in the future. IMO, Sheffield, Otunga, Barrett, Gabriel, and MAYBE Darren Young will be in the WWE in 5years. Some of them can't work a mic. At all. Look at Slater, he's rediculous on the mic. Tarver just is weird, his character doesn't make sense. I thought he was a boxer? Darren has the look, I dunno about the mic, since I didn't pay attention to him, and his ability is par. Barrett and Otunga can definately work the mic, Gabriel has his high-flying that actually is good, and Sheffield looks like he has a good enough moveset and ability so that, if he's given a mouthpiece, he could be high-mid card-MAYBE Main event in a few years.

 

[neXus-are-ONE]

I think that at SummerSlam Cena may turn Heel because Cena has been cutting some wierd promos and shit. Besides WWE has to turn Cena Heel, they missed an oportunity back in the 90s with Hogan, and lets face it Cena is a modern-day Hogan, a hero to kids. Also beating Cena up doesn't mean anything, back in the 90s with the nWo (sorry if I'm wrong) Nash powerbombed Eric Bischoff and later was revealed as a member of the nWo.

 

[TheInfamousOne]

This may be off topic a bit but a buddy of of mine and I were talking last night..and we both feel that there needs to be 2 factions of Nexus. Lets Just call them Nexus Red and Nexus Blue. To me Smackdown has gotten a bit stale. I think if you put a nexus group on there it immediately helps the entire show and roster. I say the Nexus Group now invites some people from Season 2 of NXT and split into 2 groups. This increases story line options and gives some of those guys a place to go. To me you invite Riley, Hennig, Harris and Kaval to join. Then you split them as Barret, Riley, Hennig, Gabriel, Sheffield and Tarver are Team "red" and Kaval, Harris, Slater, Young and Otunga are Team "blue" (Otunga and Tarver are interchangable to me.) Then you have your "A" Team on the main show and the "b" team on the 2nd show. Then there are built in matchups that make sense on both shows. I mean the plot lines are there and make a lot of sense. I know it kinda has an NWO feel to it..but the thing is this is the same faction dominating 2 shows..i think it would be a very good idea on the E's part to at least try this.

 

[Ultra Awesome]

there needs to be 2 factions of Nexus. Lets Just call them Nexus Red and Nexus Blue. To me Smackdown has gotten a bit stale. I think if you put a nexus group on there it immediately helps the entire show and roster.

While I do understand your point, I do not think that having two Nexus factions is a good idea. The Nexus faction is truly someting special. It is one of the best WWE storylines in quite some time. And if there were two, then it would just take away some of the "star power" it has generated. It's like when you see a "running gag" on a TV show. In most cases, the first time you see it, its funny (possibly halerious) but when you see it happen over and over again you just get tired of it.

The same goes for the Nexus, if there is more than one faction, then everyone will just get tired of it because they have been exposed to it too much. And that obviously takes away the awesomeness of the "original Nexus". Instead of people viewing the faction as, "Deng! what's gona happen next!", it will turn into something like..."Aww Man! not this garbage again..."

That's how i feel ayway. I think that adding another Nexus will just take out some of the excitement in it...

 

[patriotjay]

Th Nexus involvment on Raw just shows that Raw is far superior to Smackdown when they wanted to make theyre presence known they showed up on Raw and tore the place apart leaving Cena the number one guy beatin down.SmackDown could use the star power of Nexus but goes to show what Vince's number one priority is.Raw! But I really hope somthing goes down where the SD roster gets involved with this Angle cause Nexus' attack was on WWE but everything is happening on Raw.To me it just cheapens SmackDown even more by Nexus never showing up.Guess those guys are no threat to Barret in company?

 

[MaverickAZ]

the Tag Team division is still crap, its a dying breed if not dead already in WWE's eyes, but since they are still recognizing the division, why not give 2 of the Nexus members a run with them. Could add even the slightest bit of credibility plus give the WWE another tag team to use with the Dudebusters(lame), Uso's, Hart Dynasty, Santino&Kozlov, etc.

 

[TheInfamousOne]

While I do understand your point, I do not think that having two Nexus factions is a good idea. The Nexus faction is truly someting special. It is one of the best WWE storylines in quite some time. And if there were two, then it would just take away some of the "star power" it has generated. It's like when you see a "running gag" on a TV show. In most cases, the first time you see it, its funny (possibly halerious) but when you see it happen over and over again you just get tired of it.

I think if done correctly it could come off as dynamite. The Nexus M.O. of the nexus was to come in and wreck sh*t and attack the main face of the brand, Cena. Do it on Smackdown. Have Kaval win season 2. Make Him the leader of Nexus "blue". Then have them attack Rey. Then 1. they get instant heat. 2. You set up a Kaval v. Rey scenario that in my opinion is not a bad deal. 3. you bring one of the best story lines in a long time to a show that is kinda stale. It may make people tune in just to see what the hell they are going to do. again not a bad deal. This setups things for Survivor series. Also it gives you a kind of out when they are like "wtf do we do with these season 2 guys." I think it is at least worth a shot.

 

[martymcfly]

To me, the nexus group is pretty much an amped version of the spirit squad (without cheering before matches). By that, I mean they have a leader but the rest of them are pretty interchangeable. Right now, the group works and is interesting, but after a while a group or faction will become stale, and nexus will eventually be done. At that point, perhaps one or two will stick around but by then most of them will likely be future endeavored.

 

[SilverPlaqueVII_Nexus222]

This may be off topic a bit but a buddy of of mine and I were talking last night..and we both feel that there needs to be 2 factions of Nexus. Lets Just call them Nexus Red and Nexus Blue. To me Smackdown has gotten a bit stale. I think if you put a nexus group on there it immediately helps the entire show and roster. I say the Nexus Group now invites some people from Season 2 of NXT and split into 2 groups. This increases story line options and gives some of those guys a place to go. To me you invite Riley, Hennig, Harris and Kaval to join. Then you split them as Barret, Riley, Hennig, Gabriel, Sheffield and Tarver are Team "red" and Kaval, Harris, Slater, Young and Otunga are Team "blue" (Otunga and Tarver are interchangable to me.) Then you have your "A" Team on the main show and the "b" team on the 2nd show. Then there are built in matchups that make sense on both shows. I mean the plot lines are there and make a lot of sense. I know it kinda has an NWO feel to it..but the thing is this is the same faction dominating 2 shows..i think it would be a very good idea on the E's part to at least try this.

Try it.

I doubt it will be Nexus Raw and Nexus SmackDown.

If it doesn't work, they should crossover WWE's programming to be sure how it works like Season 1 (ex. Bryan) + Season 2 = 15 Nexus soldiers.

 

[The Peep Show]

Right now we are submersed in one of the most entertaining storylines on Raw in a very long time. But we all know it's not going to last forever, whether it be after SummerSlam or next years Wrestlemania the Nexus are going to have to disband. So my question to you is:
What is going to happen to Nexus after they disband?

You can include how you think it is going to disband, I think it will disband after someone in the Nexus (probably Otunga) gets pissed with Barrett and the Nexus become divided, after a few pay per views of matches the Nexus go their separate ways, some become faces and other become heels, while a few guys get released.

Now, what will happen after they disband, I think Young, Slater and Tarver will get released and Otunga will only stay because on his marriage to Jennifer Hudson and develop a gimmick off that like his one on NXT. Wade Barrett, after his championship suspension is up, will move into the main event and fued for the WWE or WHC. I think Sheffield will stay, but will go to SmackDown and get lost in the mix, eventually getting released after a few months. I hope Justin Gabriel will turn face and get into a tag team, possibly with Evan Bourne.

So, thats what I think will happen after Nexus and sorry if someone else started this sort of thread before. So what does the IWC think will happen to Nexus after it disbands?

 

[Y 2 Jake]

The problem with Nexus is, despite them being promoted as a strong group, they're a sorry state of individuals. All of them, with the exception of Barrett, must be dreading the day that stable spilt. Heath Slater must look in the mirror and shed a solitary tear each and every morning. He knows that even though he's currently on a strong run, as a rookie in the wrestling business he's already reached the apex of what he'll achieve in wrestling.

 

[Magnas]

Personally I can only see it spinning out in one direction. It will get the stage where the stable will split into faces and heels, like you said, and create a small fued that will disband. Obviously barrett will go on to the main event, but I think a smaller nexus will spin out of it developing into a tag team, maybe recruiting some of the newer nxt guys which is the worst thing that could possibly happen, but still itll happen. And then youll get a couple of mid carders and a couple of releases and that will be it.
And then in maybe a years time? No one will talk about nexus or what happened and everyone except barret will have faded into obscurity....

 

[Hitman80]

Do you remember the Spirit Squad? Well I am guessing pretty much the same thing will happen with Nexus, one or two will go on to single careers but for the most part they will be sent for development or be released.

 

[SuperKick36]

First, I wasn't sure where to put this thread so I put it in the Raw section. Sorry if it belongs somewhere else

Second, I believe Nexus MUST win at Summerslam. If they don't, then it will kill the storyline.

Actually, I thought for a while that they should end in a no contest, but that would be very disappointing. If they lose, then where will Nexus go from there?

Thoughts?

 

[enterkey]

An even better point is that if they lose they'll be losing to a group comprised of 1 main eventer, a has been legend, a BFG, a rapping black man that has a horrible finisher but is fun to watch in the ring, and the clusterfuck that is John Morrison. Assuming that they add on 2 more members to the team they'd likely just be midcarders at best (Bourne, Henry, Yoshi, etc) if they don't somehow unrealistically get Edge and Jericho back onto their team. Sure John Cena is the face of the company but not even he can fully carry this team to victory since Nexus has had his number since their first Raw appearance. This would absolutely KILL any and all momentum that they have gained over the past few months and they would no longer be the super amazing threat to the entire WWE (mainly Raw). Please creative do not kill this angle off so soon in the game.

 

[FozzyRocks2009]

Have no fear WWE fans this Nexus Angle is nothing but a recycled storyline. ECW/WCW vs WWE....ok so we have the bad guys (Nexus) and the good guys Team Raw...we have the thought of not working together take your pick Y2J & Edge, or Morrison & R-Truth (like Rock, Y2J back then)...now just like back then we have to have a big name turn during the match (cough cough) Cena will turn and cost team WWE the win (like Austin)...then for a few months Cena and Nexus will go at it with WWE...until Survivor Series when a winner take all match will arise and omg wouldn't believe it WWE will win Nexus will go away and Cena will get forgiven and be a supre babyface once again...LIKE AUSTIN OMG RECYCLED STORYLINE!!!!! Come on Vince

 

[mrbrownstone]

Yes loosing this early in the storyline would all but kill their credibility, I think they will loose later on down the line at Survivor Series but now is too early. Especially if you look at the team they are up against assuming Rated Y2J get back into the match which I think they will there is nothing to be gained for them except for revenge, they wont get credibiltiy from beating a bunch of rookies. However if the Nexus win they can say they have beaten 5 former world champions (Cena, Bret,Kahli, Jericho and Edge) and that gains them in ring credibilty that they desperately need.

 

[Morpheus101]

The Nexus guys really need to start competing at this stage. They've been on Raw television for long enough as a group...now it's time for them to start having actual matches. Barrett is a dominant star, but the others need to start forging names for themselves and soon, before they become considered as just a bigger version of The Spirit Squad. If WWE are serious about making the Nexus as dominant as the nWo in WCW, they need to start placing Nexus guys in a position to win gold. Have Barrett go for the WWE Championship, Otunga or Sheffield go for the US title and form a tag team to complete for the tag team gold. Nexus eventually need to be in possession of ALL of the gold. Also, whatever happens, Nexus certainly needs to get the win at Summerslam. Perhaps they could also do with a top WWE star defecting to them to boost their star power and be taken more seriously?

 

[sTyLnK]

It is common sense that for most of Nexus this will be the highlight of their careers and it will be a great story to tell people that they made it to the big leagues.

It's like pro athletes in sports who make it to the NHL, MLB etc. They compete in a few games, but never were able to do anything more then that and then were sent down and were never brought up ever again. It happens and unfortunately it happens in the WWE as well. It's part of the business. Only so many spots available.

 

[orlorr85]

This is a question that i would like answer but we will have to wait and saw. the nexus is a tight team that are loyal and now have a big match at summerslam. but like much teams in the wwe they break up. so the question is when. when will the nexus break up and what will happen to all of the members? I only see right now Wade Barrett having the longer career then any of the other members but u never know. what do u think guys? let ur opponion be heard.

 

[The Deadly Viper]

I think they are going to be together for a reasonable amount of time. Reason being, what is Heath Slater gonna do after this? They are being kind to him and giving him a bit of time in the limelight. Obviously the one with the best career out of them will be Wade but I still think to help Slater etc. This "Nexus" will go on for a while.

 

[My Couch Pulls Out But I Don't]

I do not think the Nexus will break up anytime soon. If WWE knows what is good for them, they will keep the Nexus angle around for a while. I can see potential in majority of them, either in the main event or mid card levels. Having the faction around gives them the ability to feed off each other if they ever happen to get title matches in the future. It wouldn't hurt to have Wade hold the WWE title while two of the others hold tag titles or someone holds the US title. The the old nWo days, they had numerous champions in their faction so why can't it happen for Nexus?

 

[tjmars]

The the old nWo days, they had numerous champions in their faction so why can't it happen for Nexus?

Because Nexus is not NWO and WWE is not WCW. I'm kind of into the Nexus thing but I still cant help but just think its a rip-off of NWO. But anyway...

If things were to go the right way, Nexus should stay together for at least a year before having one of them turning against them or getting kicked out. I can see one of them winning the wwe title and it not being Wade Berret (at least not at the time) and getting destroyed by them causing a ripple effect of the downfall. Kina like with Evoloution and Orton.

 

[barclayteo]

you know i can see the nexus group go on for a while but i think they will lose 1 or 2 guys most likely i think they will be david otunga because i think he sucks in the ring, and is bland and worthless on the mike i only see the reason he is on there is cause who he is engaged to. and anytime i see him going for his finisher or other big moves he usually botches them.
the second is probably either the dude who usually covers his mouth i dont think he has any orginalty and his moves dont look beliveable. the other guy would be heath just cause his character if he was repackeged that be great i like his finisher .

but all in all i think the nexus group is one of the best ideas since the brought in the mitb match, or having the undertaker drop the american badass personna.

give the nexus the united states title its worthless now that he has the breifcase and its not being defended. and has anybody wondered 2 things. 1 when is wade barret going to get that title shot at the payper view he was promiesed,