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Jeff Hardy is NOTHING in TNA

Simple answer. No. WWE has to stop selling Hardy merchandise which is going to cost them a truckload of money. Also I don't think the majority of wrestling fans know about Hardy's legal problems. There's a week and a half for all these little girls to tell each other that Jeff Hardy will be on TNA next week. Every viewer counts and Hardy will certainly bring a few more.

Now TNA can sell Hardy merchandise even if he goes to jail. More money which the company needs. Along with Hogan they're about to triple their merchandise sales. TNA isn't in the spotlight enough to get heat over signing a possible felon. If it does draw heat and get on CNN or something then that gets TNA's name mentioned. Also if WWE tries to use it as ammo then WWE will be promoting TNA which they won't do. There isn't any losing with this situation.
 
Jeff Hardy was indeed a big signing for tna but if I do recall didn't Hardy try the Tna before and it didn't go to well ? I am not sure if was wise to sign Hardy with all the legal issues he will be facing real soon and it could generate negative press. Now what Tna needs to do is keep signing young talent to the show, signing old guys like Hogan,Flair, The Nasty Boys and Brian Nash is not a great direction to go. I honestly believe as a wrestling fan we need Tna to challenge the WWE weekly, thus giving us the best shows.
 
IMHO this is a situation where TNA can only lose. I'm all for competition...signing a recent champ from a competing organization is a boon. The issue is that Hardy is in big trouble right now... It has gone from "former WWE wrestler" in the headlines to "current TNA wrestler". No good press there at all. I can't say I wouldn't have signed him, but I'm a bit of a gambler. They tried so hard with one night of live TV that they neglected to be forward thinking, which is what TNA needs right now.
 
i think it's a risky move but it shows that TNA believes he will be found not-guilty. Regardless, i would imagine and hope that TNA put a clause into his contract where if he goes to jail the contract becomes null and void, or at least the money paid lowers significantly.
 
Naa I think it's more so Hardy didnt take shit for a break and signed too soon with TNA. But I have a feeling Jeff will be locked up before Lockdown so...yeah...
 
Considering news just broke today that he has been indicted and his trial should be on the docket by next week, it's probably safe to say that he might have signed too soon. Granted being indicted doesn't mean he's guilty, but still, having a court case looming is a bad for someone just restarting with a company.
 
I don't think they signed him too soon, but I think they debuted him too soon. Here you have perhaps the breakout wrestler of 2009 and the most popular (maybe 2nd behind Cena). I feel that Hogan debuting on TNA and Hardy should have been separate. If they had waited a few weeks for Hardy, that would have been a HUGE deal, especially if it was built up correctly.
 
What was the point of hardy leaving the wwe if he was only going to return 3 measly months later? I wouldnt say it was too soon for tna to sign hardy, i would say it was waaay to soon for him to sign with anybody. 3 months, are you serious. I certainly hope wwe wouldve given him three months off.
 
I think that he did sign way too early. I mean didn't he give WWE a verbal commitment to go back when he was ready. But I believe Kurt Angle did the same thing and WWE did not retaliate. It's just another case of WWE shooting themselves in the foot by letting another top draw leave and go to the "competition." IMO, it doesn't matter who signs with TNA, they will always be like the car stuck on the tracks, and the WWE train will run them over.
 
i do think jeff goingto tna is way bad. Tna is try to look like a power house. if you ocme down to it. TNs shot there load in one night no bulid for any talen to come in. i like what wwe is doing slow bulid for bret not inyou face as i alway read in bashing on here. that talen and storylines need ot bulid right. jeff hardy going to jail. he got busted you break the law the law wins every time. dont get me wrong i like jeff and was really pissed that he went to tna after what wwe did for him and for rick flair both got one of the best send offs in year. come on they could of barred jeff and rick if they knew this is how they would turn on wwe. Rick needs to stay retired that it im all over that. jeff seem to no be over his deamon. As far as it goes TNA show just showed me why i wont watch it. Everybody who showed up are talent that ar from 80's and 90. if i want to watch them in the prime I would ger old wrestling videos "dvd" WWE has been realyl good and getting new talend look John Cena Cm punk, Kofi, roded ted debise i mean at least wwe undersand you have to give the new guys room. i know people will come on her and say will what about hhh, hbk, taker. golddust and so forth . Do you relaise that hhh and hbk are not in world or heveweigth title. i know taker has the the title know and i going to say he deserve to have a run for a while. if tna can do what wwe has doen get the new talen and prove them self good for them but all i see is wreslter for mthe 80 and 90's some that cant wrestle any mroe nasy bo. xpac "sean waltman" scott hall come on get real jeff was a mistake and maybe im wrong but jeff is look at really big issue and he should focus on that insted of tna anymroe untill this is finnely over and he dosent have to worry about this
 
Damn maybe Sidious is right, you guys got to pull yourself from being Shareholders for just a second and actually take a chance to be excited that your favorite wrestler can potentially have a great career elsewhere.

I'm going to point this out to Sid. You'll be his new best friend.

Did anyone else see on the main page that Hardy is being indicted? So much for X saying nothing would come of it. I said from the beginning that Hardy would put on great matches, but he'd be a major risk, and the same day that he signs a contract with TNA, he also gets papers saying he could be going to jail. AWESOME. These are the risks TNA can't afford to take right now...
 
I was disappointed when I found out that Jeff showed up on TNA. Even though it might not last long but I still prefer if he was back in WWE. I really find him great as a top face in Smackdown and his feud with CM Punk was great. I was really hoping that as soon as he was done with the court stuff he would go back to WWE but now I'm not even sure what's going to happen next.
 
For some reason he seems out of place on TNA at the moment but that was probably because of the crap return, him attacking Homicide did nothing as the match was already over, if the match had continued and Jeff had cost Homicide the match, that would have interested me and made for an interesting storyline.
 
Yeah, I know there's a proper thread for Jeff Hardy shit but we don't like official threads, do we Luther? 'Sides, I always did like the attention. Anyway...

I was initially quite excited - well, not really - to see Jeff Hardy in TNA. Jim Cornette claims he's "the biggest wrestler of 2009". Pretty much, Jim. Pretty much. Even though they botched his debut big time and his backstage segments were completely sub-par, I still thought it might have been workable. I've since changed my mind.

What makes Jeff Hardy so great? It's the bumps and the spots, let's be honest. Yeah, he's OK on the stick and all the goth chicks wanna fuck him, but that's not why he's popular. In TNA, there's a spot and a bump every minute. In the X Division you can't go five seconds without a spot or a bump. A Whisper in the Wind and a Senton Bomb are all well and good, but I'd wager they'll be met with indifference in front of an audience that sees AJ Styles on a weekly basis.

In WWE, Jeff Hardy had something unique and exciting. In TNA, he's nothing.
 
Agree with you to a certain extent, the bumps and the spots are not going to stand out anywhere near as much as they did in WWE.

I certainly don't think he is nothing though, he is still a big name and got a large fanbase. I only watch TNA occasionally so I don't know really know how well over he was in his first run with them but I'm fairly sure the fans are gonna love him.
 
I didn't really watch TNA when Jeff Hardy was in it. I have, however, seen several matches from his run and read about it. Far as I could tell, he was initially quite popular in TNA and then it just sort of rubbed off. He ended up having garbage matches with Abyss.

I know they involved him with Styles before - maybe as a tag team? - but that seems like quite a mistake to me. Putting him next to a high flyer the calibre of, well, the best high flyer in the world just makes the sheen rub off him all that quickly. Hence why I think it's dangerous to touch the main event while Styles is hanging around it. Nor can he really hang in the X Division. It's a minefield.

Fuck it, Samoa Joe feud.
 
I think the only reason TNA re-hired him is the fan-base that they can tap into from the WWE audience, which is smart. If these kids who watched him religiously in WWE find out he's in TNA, a lot of them will watch just for him.

But you're right, Jeff Hardy, despite his talent, will likely be lost in the X-Division shuffle, unless they constantly push him in the main event, which I can't see them doing right now...
 
Jeff Hardy is a bigger name than most of the talent in TNA. He also has the ability to perform at a higher level than most of the 'new' names they have brought in recently.

While he may not be the name of a Hall or Flair, he can contribute strongly in the ring. And don't get me started on Waltman.
 
Like it or not, Jeff Hardy is a bonafide superstar in the business at present. For TNA to scoop him up, regardless of whether he had a verbal agreement to return to WWE at some point or not, is quite the coup. He was a world champion in the biggest wrestling organization in the world not too long ago and he never really had a "decline" period like many of the other established talents TNA has picked up over the years. It's a big deal that Jeff Hardy is in TNA.

Having said that, it's now up to TNA to figure out what to do with him. They could do nothing but put him on TV for the next 6 weeks and let him talk and that would be enough to "enhance" their product due to his current star power. Of course, doing this would be akin to what WCW did with Bret Hart and be a huge mistake in the long run. In my opinion, Jeff Hardy needs to be in the main event picture and kept out of the X division. Whether he thrives or dies there is essentially up to him.

I never quite bought into "Jeff Hardy: WWE Champion" to be honest, but a lot of people (the majority in fact) did. TNA needs to translate that success over to their product and build upon it. Whether Jeff winds up as "nothing" or not depends on exactly two things: What TNA has planned for Hardy and how successfully Hardy executes on those plans.
 
I've really got to agree with you here, I think the way TNA had Jeff re-debut with the company was pretty lame. I mean, come on...they're putting him in a program with Homicide? ...that's going to be SUPER-lame.

I hadn't really thought about Hardy in TNA the way that you had. You bring up a great point: with Jeff in the x-division, he really won't stand out NEARLY as much as he did in the WWE. He really wouldn't fit in the main-event right away either, at least not where the main-event is now.

If it was up to me, I would have had him feuding with Eric Young for the Global-Championship upon his arrival. Not only would this elevate EY's status as a super-heel, but also get Jeff's new TNA-credibility back on track for his eventual rise to the main-event (if they're smart).

Jacob (my eight-year-old) once told me that he didn't like TNA because "it doesn't have a lot of guys I know". Jeff Hardy is far-and-away his FAVORITE wrestler. Now that TNA has his favorite guy, he's going to start watching it...but my theory is that he'll quickly get bored with Impact (and Hardy too), unless they put Jeff in a storyline involving some type of championship. Jake didn't really start liking Jeff as much as he does now until he got put in the title-hunt on Smackdown.

Just my two-cents, I don't really see TNA's benefit in signing Jeff unless they put him in a storyline with a "credible" wrestler. A feud with Homicide is NOT going to excite the kiddies....against EY? Fantastic....maybe the Homicide feud will lead to a possible feud with World Elite, and eventually a run with the Global Title. Hopefully that's what's in store, because I really don't see the current plans unfolding in Jeff's (or TNA's) favor.
 
buncha haters....my god you think with all the articles and posts on this site people wouldnt be so dam clueless. its obviously because of the lighter schedule tna offers. same reason everyone else from wwe went there. lighter schedule....jeff will shine in tna just like he did in wwe. maybe not as much...but jeff can contribute heavily to the xdivision or he can go for it and be a main eventer fighting for the tna title. either position, jeff hardy belongs in tna imo. his style and spot fest-ness is perfect for tna. and on the bright side...he'll have more time to rest in between shows so he can perform 10x's better than in wwe. there is no debating that wwe is a grander stage to be on. and popularity wise and fan base wise...being in wwe will get you noticed...but for those who still love the wrestling of it all...jeff in tna is a good thing. he'll be there a while and hopefully never goes back to wwe. he's going through a buncha legal crap and still wants to be in the business...wat better place to be with a light schedule where he can still get tv time, handle his personal life and get rest at the same time...but noooo lets keep bashing him....wat an asshole for leaving the big "E". biased people.
 
buncha haters....

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its obviously because of the lighter schedule tna offers.

What is? The reason he joined TNA? Ehh, maybe.

maybe not as much...but jeff can contribute heavily to the xdivision or he can go for it and be a main eventer fighting for the tna title.

Alongside people like Homicide, Red etc. his brand of wrestling certainly won't hold up. He certainly lacks the finesse that they have. Likewise if he competes for the title while AJ Styles is on the scene.

but noooo lets keep bashing him....wat an asshole for leaving the big "E". biased people.

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Before we call this career suicide, i think we need to take two factors into account:

1. If Jeff can sober up and stay clean and out of trouble. WWE was willing to continue name dropping and promoting Hardy while he took a supposed hiatus, and even when he was in legal trouble. That shows that WWE had alot of faith in Jeff, and a future return, especially with former wrestlers like Test and Umaga dying from supposed drug overdoses. This shows that WWE really wanted, and probably still want Jeff to come back to the WWE.

2. If Jeff can avoid a major injury. So long as Jeff does not have a career ending injury, he will probably be welcomed back to WWE with open arms, so long as he does it within the next few years, before his popularity wears off. However, if he does injure himself, WWE will laugh their asses off and turn him away, because he will be of no value to them, except maybe somewhere down the line similar to Bret Hart, but to a lesser extent.

I don't think that TNA will use him properly, and there isn't anyone on the roster that really pops out as good fued material. WWE had people like Matt, CM Punk, and others that could make great fueds. If he plays his cards right, I bet WWE would pay him a nice chunk of change to jump ship, as long as he does it soon.
 
Everyone seem's genuinely irritated that Jeff Hardy's jump to TNA was bad for him. What people don't understand is that Jeff Hardy had been a world champion in TNA before WWE ever gave him a title shot. TNA needs Jeff as much as Jeff Needs TNA. Does anyone ever stop to think that these people that quit WWE to go to TNA are sick of the way they are treated by Vince McMahon. We only see what Vince want's us to see on live tv, but backstage politics within WWE is horrible. There are so many talents there that stay with WWE only cause their in the spotlight, or chummy with HHH, and the McMahons. There are so many reported wrestles that have said their sick of WWE because of the politics. Evan Bourne is in WWE right now, and has made it public that he dislikes WWE and wants to go to TNA. I think Jeff Hardy needs to do what's best for him, and where he will enjoy wrestling in the ring and not in the politics backstage at WWE.
 
buncha haters....my god you think with all the articles and posts on this site people wouldnt be so dam clueless. its obviously because of the lighter schedule tna offers. same reason everyone else from wwe went there. lighter schedule....jeff will shine in tna just like he did in wwe. maybe not as much...but jeff can contribute heavily to the xdivision or he can go for it and be a main eventer fighting for the tna title. either position, jeff hardy belongs in tna imo. his style and spot fest-ness is perfect for tna. and on the bright side...he'll have more time to rest in between shows so he can perform 10x's better than in wwe. there is no debating that wwe is a grander stage to be on. and popularity wise and fan base wise...being in wwe will get you noticed...but for those who still love the wrestling of it all...jeff in tna is a good thing. he'll be there a while and hopefully never goes back to wwe. he's going through a buncha legal crap and still wants to be in the business...wat better place to be with a light schedule where he can still get tv time, handle his personal life and get rest at the same time...but noooo lets keep bashing him....wat an asshole for leaving the big "E". biased people.

I think the very same way. He will be fine. There needs to be more WWE stars jumping ship to go to TNA. That's where the wrestling begins and the politics ends.
 

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