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Jeff Hardy is NOTHING in TNA

What people don't understand is that Jeff Hardy had been a world champion in TNA before WWE ever gave him a title shot. TNA needs Jeff as much as Jeff Needs TNA.

I may be wrong, but i don't believe that Jeff held ANY gold in TNA, let alone the world title. Also, He had a few world title shots in WWE way before he went to TNA, remember his match against the Undertaker when Taker turned face and raised Jeff's hand afterwards, it was probably his best match of all.
 
I've really got to agree with you here, I think the way TNA had Jeff re-debut with the company was pretty lame. I mean, come on...they're putting him in a program with Homicide? ...that's going to be SUPER-lame.

I hadn't really thought about Hardy in TNA the way that you had. You bring up a great point: with Jeff in the x-division, he really won't stand out NEARLY as much as he did in the WWE. He really wouldn't fit in the main-event right away either, at least not where the main-event is now.

If it was up to me, I would have had him feuding with Eric Young for the Global-Championship upon his arrival. Not only would this elevate EY's status as a super-heel, but also get Jeff's new TNA-credibility back on track for his eventual rise to the main-event (if they're smart).

Jacob (my eight-year-old) once told me that he didn't like TNA because "it doesn't have a lot of guys I know". Jeff Hardy is far-and-away his FAVORITE wrestler. Now that TNA has his favorite guy, he's going to start watching it...but my theory is that he'll quickly get bored with Impact (and Hardy too), unless they put Jeff in a storyline involving some type of championship. Jake didn't really start liking Jeff as much as he does now until he got put in the title-hunt on Smackdown.

Just my two-cents, I don't really see TNA's benefit in signing Jeff unless they put him in a storyline with a "credible" wrestler. A feud with Homicide is NOT going to excite the kiddies....against EY? Fantastic....maybe the Homicide feud will lead to a possible feud with World Elite, and eventually a run with the Global Title. Hopefully that's what's in store, because I really don't see the current plans unfolding in Jeff's (or TNA's) favor.

I think there will be some great matches between the 2. Homicide is a good wrestler with a major heel run which in turn will give Jeff Hardy a very nice face return with some great matches to start out.
 
its basically because of 2 things... wwe wants you to travel all the time all over the world and you dont get to have a personal life really. its great to make the money and be a big star but you really cant do what you want. and 2 he cant have the matches he wants. he cant do the moves he wants and he cant express his own personal wrestling style to the fullest. i dont think its because he wants to do drugs in peace lol. they my not enforce it as hard as wwe but i dont think he said he let me go there and go drugs.

his court thing im not sure if it happened after he said he was leaving or it happened before so i dont remember if that factors in...

i personally like how the wrestlers in tna arent really BAD guys or GOOD guys. everybody is just a wrestler and kind of all on the same side. so even though he may not right now in tna be in the spot light like above kurt he still wont be somebody that is hated or forgotten.

one thing about wwe is if you arent in the spot light you are kind of a BAD guy. and wwe wants people to NOT like bad guys. example: making cm punk not shave for months so he can look gross and not like his whole straightedge thing. personally im not straightedge but its not really a bad thing to promote to young children right?! why do you want little kids learning to drink and do drugs? i think they should be building him up and making him look like he did when he was a GOOD guy and wanted people to like him. why cant people not like you just because they dont? why do they have to dress you up all ugly and force boos into the mics in order for you to not like it.
 
I may be wrong, but i don't believe that Jeff held ANY gold in TNA, let alone the world title. Also, He had a few world title shots in WWE way before he went to TNA, remember his match against the Undertaker when Taker turned face and raised Jeff's hand afterwards, it was probably his best match of all.

I thought i had heard Mike Tenay mention him as a former world champion in TNa before they went televised of course. Some guy's just want to be able to wrestle, and not have to worry about the politics backstage like everyone complains about in WWE.
 
This is stupid. Jeff Hardy is a WWE guy through and through. Company loyalty is always what I look for in a wrestler. TNA didnt really give him shit his first time around, the WWE on the other hand put all their faith in the man, time and time again. I WAS a Jeff Hardy mark, until he turned his back on the company that made him a star. I love TNA, but WWE gave him his credibility back.

Fuck you Jeff, you piece of shit.

Nobody is a company star through and though to quote a certain wrestler " people will go where ever the money is" and TNA has a lighter schedule then WWE, okay and TNA didn't give Hardy shit his frist time okay. His first match was for the X-division Title and he got at least 5 title shots. Okay TNA did put some faith into him cuz he dvds and shirts there was selling. Now if i am right her TNA gave him 5 title shots in a year, WWE only gave him what 3 in 02 and then more in 3 more in 09 wow so WWE didn 't have that much faith in him to wait about 8 years before they let him run with the belt. TNA was also the company who let Jeff be Jeff with the painting and they also helped him out with his music career by letting him make a video to his song Modest so yeah TNA didn't give Jeff Shit, yeah right
 
Well, the last I heard the charges against him were basically going to be dropped and that he's just waiting for it to happen.

Where did you hear that from? This past Monday, he was indicted by a Grand Jury in Moore County, North Carolina. If the Grand Jury had decided to no bill it, which means if they didn't think the evidence was suffucient for Hardy to stand trial for the charges brought against him, then the DA may have dropped the case altogether. It wouldn't be guaranteed, but it's possible. However, the Grand Jury voted to indict, meaning they feel that the evidence is sufficient in their eyes for a criminal trial to take place. Since the district attorney prosecuting the case went to all the trouble of preparing his or her case and presenting it before a Grand Jury, I doubt the prosecutor is going to be dropping the charges. I'm not a legal expert or anything like that, don't get me wrong. But, since a GJ has chosen to indict, I'm not sure that the DA could drop the case now even if he or she wanted to.
 
You know being in the main event and making alot money isnt always the most important thing to a wrestler. Jeff's main issue with WWE was thier schedule. In TNA he wont have to wrestle as much. Doing this isnt gonna hurt his chances of returning to WWE in the main event. If anything it will him leverage in negotiations. Before WWE probrilly thought that now that he was a main event guy he wont take a pay cut to WWE. He proved otherwise. Jeff isnt the type of person that lets money run his life. Yeah he could make alot more money right now in WWE, but is it worth him risking his health for it?
 
Jeff Hardy (IMO) will do amazing things for TNA. He was one of the biggest stars in WWE less than a year ago and now TNA has him! Do you know how many WWE fans will start watching TNA just because Hardy's there now? Alout!!! This is a big thing for TNA i think...
Your Thoughts?
 
Quite the contrary, I think Jeff could be the best thing that ever happened to TNA. Jeff has something that neither Hogan, Hall, Waltman, or anyone else they've brought in have: relevancy.

Sure, Hogan and co. are big names, but the average WWE fan these days probably don't even know who they are or care enough to want to watch TNA. Hogan is popular with the older fans, Jeff's popular with both older fans and A LOT of the newer generation of fans, which is a majority of WWE's audience; the audience that TNA is trying to win over.

Hardy left the WWE almost 6 months ago, yet he still has a HUGE following of fans that want to see him again. Unlike Hogan and co, Jeff is someone that alot of fans today are much more familiar with. TNA has managed to sign Jeff at the peak of his popularity and he's the perfect person to get WWE fans to check out TNA. If I were them, I'd run commericials non-stop of Jeff's arrival on any WWE programming possible. In my opinion, Jeff may be the most valuable person in TNA.

Even if his stay is long term or short, with the right promotion, once the WWE/Jeff fans find out he's wrestling again, there's a strong chance they'll tune in just to see him. Once you've got them watching, you try to hook them with everything else on the show and hope to turn them into a full-fleged TNA fan.

TNA is sitting on a goldmine with Jeff. Let's hope they don't fuck it up.
 
I'm almost amazed people are so positive about this. Sure, he'll have a few good matches, and open a few pay-per-views, but what is the long term gain to signing him?

Will he attract new talent? No. He's an established star, but he's not nearly to the level of AJ, HHH, or even a Rey Mysterio. He'll bring back some older TNA fans, and he'll attract a few WWE fans, but that's it. Then he'll end up going to jail or dying, and does TNA need that blemish?

They're trying to compete with the guys "up north", and they're taking too many big risks.
 
I'm almost amazed people are so positive about this. Sure, he'll have a few good matches, and open a few pay-per-views, but what is the long term gain to signing him?

NSL has been voicing his concern throughout this thread and I'm really going to have to agree with him. It's quite true that TNA run a risk by putting Hardy into a long program should they so choose.

To be honest with you, I think Hardy is at his best when he is with the WWE. They had the confidence in him to push him, even as he stumbled a few times, and then he just pulled down his pants and shat on everything he accomplished in 2008/9, two of the greatest years of his career. In TNA, he is a bit player. I don't think TNA would build on what WWE did for him, as in, establishing him a main eventer. Yes. Someone who can wrestle championship matches and win. Thats right, someone who can defeat HHH, Edge, CM Punk. TNA however seem intent on throwing him into an X Division that hasn't been in the limelight in years, and utilising him as a spot monkey in gimmick matches.

They've essentially moved him down the ladder and about back 9 years.
 
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Here's another thing people are either forgetting or not taking into account. Jeff Hardy in TNA, the first time around, was a pretty big flop. His debut was huge, and he had a decent feud with Abyss, but do you know how many titles he held in the company?

Zero. Zilch. Nada. 0. Zip.

That's right. He didn't hold the X Division title, he never captured the Heavyweight Title, and he never even got close to the tag team titles. I know his biggest successes came upon his return to the WWE, but he had a good number of titles before he went to TNA. If they were desperate then, and pushing everybody they could get from WWE, and he still got no gold, what's to make us expect any different this time around, when they're not nearly as desperate?

As I've said many times...He'll get a few oohs and ahhs, but that's it. Don't expect a long term push or a string of title shots, and certainly don't expect any gold around his waist. If he stays "clean", and gets a good run at the top, it's all gravy, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
Jeff Hardy is great, TNA also is going places. But I do agree that TNA do not appreciate a guy like him, just look at his last run in TNA, it sucked ass. Yeah he put on good matches, but there was no depth in his character.

TNA can do one amazing thing with Jeff Hardy if Brother ohhh Brother cared enough. That is align him with Sting, imagine it. Hardy a career outcast with sting by his side. check it out...

Hardy starts off in TNA at the top, it makes sense, look he might have problems but u can use that in hs favour. He was just comin in his prime in wwe, becoming a three time champion just a few months ago, as well as stealing the show at summerslam. so right now he is hott property, if TNA market him properly he can rule the roost. now listen...

Jeff comes in, gets no respect in the back, no title shot, nothing. So he gets screwed by everyone about his drug habits. At the same time I have a big feeling that Hogan is going to play the heel card soon, Jeff vs hogan, nash, hall, (nwo) i know its old and stuff, but this time its different.

Jeff Hardy can be the new sting, not exact the same, but that do or die style. looking in from the outside as everything crumbles in tna, as it gets corrupted by all these old guys.
 
I don't think he is "nothing" as it was so eloquently put.

Personally, I think I might be the only one on the forums who think that Jeef Hardy will be a huge success if they manage to book him correctly. You see, in the WWE, Jeff Hardy was understood. Sure, he never had the physique of a Batista or the ring presence of Kurt Angle but they WWE knew how to book him to make sure that the flaws in his game were evened out. I , for one, would never have though of Jeff Hardy as a World Champion but we all know how that ended. The WWE knew how to book Jeff Hardy so that he could compete with the people who were better than him. They needed to. They needed to get Jeff to the top of the pile to get the most out of him in terms of business and without the proper booking, they knew that no one would have bought it. However, they managed to do it and it came off well. By the end of it, people legitimately believed that he could be the Champion to carry the Smackdown brand.

That is what TNA need to do, I think. They need to grasp his character and make sure that they know what he is going to be from the start. The questions that TNA need to be asking themselves is how far they see him going and in which direction would he be best suited to. A year ago, I would have said it would have been the X-Division but now he is a main event star. He has star-billing from the WWE to rely on and I think that he must be one of the people that TNA will be trying to push into the main event. Whether they manage to pull that off or not comes down to the proper booking. He is certainly something and he will get a push.
 
The Funny thing is that if his return was done properly, it would have help TNA a lot more then anything Hogan and friends could have done. But Hogan being hogan and Dixie not knowing how to run a wrestling company properly pretty much squash any chance for Jeff Hardy to make an IMPACT.

If you look at it from a fans point of view. Jeff Hardy came of one of his most succesful year in his career. Started 2009 as the WWE champion won the World heavyweight champion twice during the summer, had a series of great matches with C.M Punk that actually made them win best feud of the year on many wrestling websites. His merchandise were the best selling item in 2009, even his DVD made a lot of money. When Jeff Left the WWE, he left them wanting more and that's rare for a wrestler. So in the eyes of the newer fans that only watches WWE programming who is more relevant Hogan or Hardy? I would say Hardy and Hogan knew it so am sure when he found out that Hardy was returning on the same night has is big debut, he made sure that Jeff Hardy diesn'T make an impact so instead of having hardy get in a feud with one of the top stars like Kurt Angle or Samoa Joe, he got put with the X-division which his were all the lower card guy wrestles before getting release.

So yes, Jeff is nothing in TNA but that not Jeff's fault, it's TNA's fault for not booking him right right off the bat.
 
I thoroughly agree, And it's amazing how Jeff Hardy can be a Shark in a Ocean in WWE but a mere Goldfish in a Pond in TNA. His 1st run was a joke, I cant believe they actually released a DVD on it, desperate much? You never know maybe this time will work out if he isn't behind bars, well he could still work The Lockdown PPV?
 
Hardy in TNA is trouble, some serious trouble. Having him in their company is a huge risk. He'll draw in some old TNA viewers, maybe a few WWE viewers, and he'll do some stunts here and there, but he'll only end up in the same boat he was in when he was left the WWE.

He has a history of no showing events for them and with his recent troubles with the law, I can only see disappointment stemming from this. Everyone is going to fall in love with Jeff Hardy in TNA again, only for him to disappear in jail for a long time. I'd say the only smart thing TNA did was putting him on a short term deal.
 
And dont get me started if that mofo actually wins the X Title, all credibility of that championship will be lost. When you have REAL TALENT like Shelly/Sabin in there, to get casted aside for some over rated junkie would be a tragedy.
 
From reading this thread i do understand that alot of people are worried about Hardy's tna run and to be quiet frank their feelings are warrented in this situation.

Lets put our thinking caps on here, Hardy has a huge chance of going to jail for drug trafficking, a crime that is serious in its own right, at this point in time do you think the WWE would want Hardy anywhere near a WWE ring?, If he was my employee i would be on baby steps with him until he can come back take a piss test and clearly be clean.

Now look at how Hardy left TNA, as stated before from alot of the great posters in this thread Hardy no showed events, he wasn't even bothered to show up on PPV's the reason they kept him around was due to the fact the guy had one of the highest selling DVD's that year, so they kept him on the payroll until they eventually had enough.

the only reason TNA wants Hardy now is to play on his WWE run, they pushed the guy to the moon and as NSL pointed out the guy is on fire right now and is one of the biggest stars in wrestling today, so why wouldnt that warrant in a push?

Well they are probably afraid of his previous history, I would be if i was in Dixies situation, plus looking at the guys legal troubles I would be taking small steps because you don't want him being another wrestling fatality.

Lets see how his career in TNA unfolds but if I would be so bold, I would say it may be a short stay before Hardy is found guilty and carted off to jail to serve a long sentence, TNA is only looking for a short term payoff in order to live of Hardy's past hype without damaging the companies stigma.
 
Jeff coming to TNA was a shock as he wasn't good in WWE, he was the Sh*t more or less. No one could touch him and in this WWE PG TV where there is nothing but corny kiddy story lines, he got over well and was interesting to watch.

In TNA though, he is comfortable, doesn't have to work as much, can do his own side projects plus he is stable financially so really, I don't think he is worried about legacies and where he should be at. At the end of the day he is a person like me and you who has to the right to do whatever he wants simply because he wants to, no other reason needed.
 
I have pretty mixed feelings about him going to TNA. On the one hand I still get to see him perform which I’m happy about but other than that there isn’t much good in it.

I mean, Jeff’s debut made it seem like he’ll be in the X Division which is a huge step down from main eventing on WWE television. The guy was huge in WWE and had millions of fans tuning in to watch him. He was arguably the most over superstar on WWE – right up there with Cena, Mysterio and Michaels. I just find it hard to see how this is a step up for Jeff.

I actually agree with what Madden said in his column on WZ’s main page. Jeff should be the huge draw on TNA as an actual wrestler, not Hogan. Yeah Hogan should be out there and promoting TNA but Jeff is probably the biggest draw they’ve signed that can still wrestle, he should be feuding with AJ Styles, Daniels or Samoa Joe, not Homicide.

It’s going to be interesting to see what they do with him because he’s practically screwed his chances of returning to the main event in WWE. I hope he’s happy with his decision because a lot of his fans and WWE are going to be pretty pissed off.
 
The idea of Jeff Hardy being in Tna, This time, I take kind of offense to.

He left before bitching and complaining about the schedule, and he was so drugged up, he needed to get clean anyway. He made pretty much no splash at TNA beyond them taking the chance to give him a DVD. And then he came back to Wwe.

Got a huge pop when even his name is mentioned, got ANOTHER 2 dvds, And alot of un-deserved pushes and title reigns. His stuff with Punk was great, ONLY because punk is such a great heel. And his matches with Morrison were great because Morrison was finally getting his footing in ring and coming into his own.

NOW

He leaves Wwe, a place where for some odd ball reason, no matter the negative press he gets from being such a druggie AND getting arrested, He always gets great pops. Just to go to TNA, on the night where their in direct competition with WWE, And after he gave the verbal ''Im coming back''. Thats a slap in the face to the fans and to the company that made him.

He'll screw up, and now that Hogan is there, Dixie wont be so quick to want to give him a million chances. And honestly, as a fan, I dont feel he deserves one.
 
TNA is willing to do anything right now for the ratings. If TNA was smart, they should put Hardy in a main event spot and get what they can out of him before they potentially lose him. As for "The Drunk Guy" and Waltman, haha! Good luck with that.
 
I'm a huge Jeff Hardy mark, and I marked out hard when he re-debuted in the company on 1/4. The X-Division is sorely lacking that real threat like they had before AJ Styles, Daniels and Joe vaulted to the main event. Guys like Consequences Creed and Jay Lethal just aren't enough IMO to get over nearly as much as someone like Hardy.

Hardy debuted in TNA originally and competed for the X-Division title against AJ Sytles in one of the best matches in TNA's history. I'd imagine he'll be doing the same this go-around, in an attempt by TNA to legitimize the title again. I said it before, and I'll say it again – Amazing Red is a weak champion.
 
I actually dont mind jeff going to TNA, he wasn't gonna be re-hired by wwe because of his bad publicity, why let your career die. it is rather obvious IMO that he will tag with shannon moore for a while. than make it big. that is my prediction
all in all, I don' mind about jeff in TNA
 

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