Jeff Hardy is NOTHING in TNA
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Jeff Hardy was arguably the biggest face in the WWE at the time of his departure. The WWE really gave him a great summer, and his program with Punk was excellent leading into the Summerslam of 09. Now he's a part of TNA, and whilst a huge fish has transitioned to a smaller pond, with the success of his last WWE run come with?
I understand that the live Impact the night of the 4th was extrememly important for TNA, thus forcing them to push their all their chips into the pot, however, I don't know how wise it was to debut Jeff Hardy at this point in time. With so much else going on in the company and on the show at this period, I feel his debut wasn't as stellar as it certainly could have been. Next to the black holes of attention that are Hogan and his crew, Hardy is simply being overshadowed. Yes, Jeffrey Nero Hardy, the biggest wrestler in the world for the past two years, and he's being kicked down a peg to make room for these guys.
"But Flair and Hogan are bigger draws". Well you know what? Fuck them. Fuck Bubba the Love Sponge, the Nasty Boys, fuck Scott Hall and Sean Waltman. They're blips on the radar, little squirts of nostalgia for the circle jerking IWC to look at and laugh when they remember their own halycon days. They are worthless compared to Hardy. Hardy can still go. Hardy is younger, fitter and can put on matches people want to see. Sure, you could claim the same of Homicide, AJ, Samoa Joe, whoever. The difference being, Hardy is actually known by people who aren't TNA fans. Yes thats right, WWE fans know and love Hardy.
And whats more, he's actually still relevant.
I understand that the live Impact the night of the 4th was extrememly important for TNA, thus forcing them to push their all their chips into the pot, however, I don't know how wise it was to debut Jeff Hardy at this point in time. With so much else going on in the company and on the show at this period, I feel his debut wasn't as stellar as it certainly could have been. Next to the black holes of attention that are Hogan and his crew, Hardy is simply being overshadowed. Yes, Jeffrey Nero Hardy, the biggest wrestler in the world for the past two years, and he's being kicked down a peg to make room for these guys.
"But Flair and Hogan are bigger draws". Well you know what? Fuck them. Fuck Bubba the Love Sponge, the Nasty Boys, fuck Scott Hall and Sean Waltman. They're blips on the radar, little squirts of nostalgia for the circle jerking IWC to look at and laugh when they remember their own halycon days. They are worthless compared to Hardy. Hardy can still go. Hardy is younger, fitter and can put on matches people want to see. Sure, you could claim the same of Homicide, AJ, Samoa Joe, whoever. The difference being, Hardy is actually known by people who aren't TNA fans. Yes thats right, WWE fans know and love Hardy.
And whats more, he's actually still relevant.
hunterXhunter21
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I'm thinking it might have been more of a "Hey, you are here with Moore why not run out and do this? We will give you some money, plus it will get all the Jeff Hardy fans talking then they will watch next week wanting to see more of you and they will get hooked on the wrestlers we have." It is just the simplest answer. Unless some new has come out in the past 24 hours I think this was a one time deal. He was there so why not ask him to do this.
i know im going to get alot of people disagreeing with me but i dont care. the wwe gave jeff hardy, ric flair, bobby lashley, hogan, foley, as well as every other guy who jumps sides. when they stepped into the "impact zone" i lost respect for each and every one of them. ive heard vince isnt the easiest to get along with but he did get them their chances for the big time. also what is with the constant shots at the wwe from tna. i think in the 7 or 8 years tna has been around, ive seen wwe take one shot at them. tna takes shots at vince and the wwe all the time cuz they pick up bitter stars who didnt have their way in wwe. tna is just like wcw...trying to steal stars, get ur own product. i watched a little of the three hour impact and it was horrible (btw nice having hogan come exactly at 9 so viewers wouldnt turn to raw)
Did any of you ever stop to think maybe WWE and not Jeff made this choice for him?
Everyone knows he had two strikes against him and who is to say that Vince was willing to take him back after what went down with the drug charges.
I said it once and ill say it again.I honestly will never respect TNA as a legit contender to Vince until they start at least appearing to care about their performers.I do not understand why so many people find it good that time after time TNA picks up recent WWE Wellness failures.
I think there is much more to the story then we know.Jeff likely figured he would have a hard time getting that level of trust back in the E so he went back where he has a lighter schedule and can pop and take what he wants.
I like him but honestly im surprised hes not in prison let alone that anyone would sign him with his current case pending.
Everyone knows he had two strikes against him and who is to say that Vince was willing to take him back after what went down with the drug charges.
I said it once and ill say it again.I honestly will never respect TNA as a legit contender to Vince until they start at least appearing to care about their performers.I do not understand why so many people find it good that time after time TNA picks up recent WWE Wellness failures.
I think there is much more to the story then we know.Jeff likely figured he would have a hard time getting that level of trust back in the E so he went back where he has a lighter schedule and can pop and take what he wants.
I like him but honestly im surprised hes not in prison let alone that anyone would sign him with his current case pending.
andres torti
Dark Match Winner
I dont knwo,im still shocked.I can not understand why he went to TNA.I respect him and I was a fan of him...but I dont know,I think Jeff screwed VInce 
Not Jeff screwed Jeff 
But I also think he is losing a lot of fans because of this.Because they loved him being in WWE but they are not going to like him seeing him on TNA,not everybody ofcourse...but a lot of fans they will.
Not Jeff screwed Jeff But I also think he is losing a lot of fans because of this.Because they loved him being in WWE but they are not going to like him seeing him on TNA,not everybody ofcourse...but a lot of fans they will.I just found this online, and I love Jeff but this didn't surprise me. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...re-sign-on-the-dotted-line-with-tna-wrestling
according to this, jeff signed on because he failed a 3rd drug test which means three strikes your out and you can't be with the company for an entire year. He failed it a few weeks before Summerslam but apparently they just let him leave afterwards. Maybe this would explain why he apologized after his steel cage match with CM Punk saying "I'm sorry if I let anyone down." The last time he apologizes was the previous time when he screwed up and missed Wrestlemania. I don't know, I could be reading way to far into it but it kind of makes sense. What do you guys think?
according to this, jeff signed on because he failed a 3rd drug test which means three strikes your out and you can't be with the company for an entire year. He failed it a few weeks before Summerslam but apparently they just let him leave afterwards. Maybe this would explain why he apologized after his steel cage match with CM Punk saying "I'm sorry if I let anyone down." The last time he apologizes was the previous time when he screwed up and missed Wrestlemania. I don't know, I could be reading way to far into it but it kind of makes sense. What do you guys think?
Alex
King Of The Wasteland
If that article is true that he failed a third drug test (he was probably hyped up on painkillers) and you have to stay out of the WWE for a year because of it then I can see why he signed with TNA. Apparently this TNA deal is for a year then he probably has plans to return to WWE, Helms is a smart guy for suggesting it as it keeps Jeff in the spotlight, hopefully he and Moore can bring something to the X-Dvision while their in TNA
BK Styles
Certified Nerd
I've kinda got two opinions on this. Firstly, when Jeff was in TNA the first time, he wasnt a former world champion; he was a mid-card champion/tag team wrestler. Now though, he has wins over Taker and HHH under his belt, and is a former 3 time world champion. He is worth a lot more now than he was back then, and he's also in a lot better shape than he was in his first TNA run.
Secondly, I saw this coming. Think, what was Jeff's last words in WWE? I do believe they were...
'I'll see you in the future.'
Which, correct me if I'm wrong, was what was on his Tron Video. Coincidence? I doubt it.
Secondly, I saw this coming. Think, what was Jeff's last words in WWE? I do believe they were...
'I'll see you in the future.'
Which, correct me if I'm wrong, was what was on his Tron Video. Coincidence? I doubt it.
I'm kind of mixed on it as well. I see good things in the short term for Jeff, but keeping him there longer than a year is bad. I think he will stay in TNA for a good few years due to the less travel, but if Hogan changes their travel / house show / impact being around the world, than Jeff should of stayed with WWE. 24 hours after Impact we still have no idea what Hogan is planning on doing.
jackwashington
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I think its good That Jeff goes to TNA,I mean come on he would of died if he would of stay in WWE,With all the drugs and the constant ladders matches he was doing in the WWE,i understand everyone loves Jeff Hardy and would like to see him stay in WWE,but its suicide if he goes back to WWE,wouldn't you rather see him live? the WWE Schedule is brutal already and having Jeff Hardy do ladder matches all the time on top of that its insane! picture this people, we all saw Jeff Hardy in a TLC match that was brutal at extremely rules,then come back on tuesdays to wrestler again,and Summerslam have a brutal Ladder match,and on smackdown 2 days ladder in a steel cage match? a person can't take that kinda beating. TNA is the perfect place for Jeff Hardy,if you truely a fan of his,you will suppport hardy anyway,JEff Hardy does great no matter where he goes,he just needs some better theme music!
personally, i think people read to much into wrestlers going to TNA. I doubt WWE really gives a rats ass about Jeff going to TNA. They will allow him back with open arms, and TNA allows Jeff's schedule so he could go to his court dates plus do what he loves.. I doubt WWE would even let him wrestle while hes being tried.. because it would be more public if he was in WWE. TBH i don't even think this is permanent.. I think it was a one time thing, similar to when RVD appeared on the anniversary of raw a couple years ago
i considered this TNA special a anniversary type show.
i considered this TNA special a anniversary type show.
Turd Ferguson
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Meltzer apparently said that Jeff is going to stick around in TNA for a couple of months and then head back to the WWE as soon as his deal is up. Jeff only signed a short term deal with TNA.
Basically, I think Jeff's presence in TNA is to just help get Shannon Moore a job, since the chances of him ever winding up back in the WWE are basically slim to none. It could also explain why TNA didn't really build him up that much, keeping him in a midcard presence, because they want to have him cooled off enough for when he leaves the company to head back to the WWE.
Basically, I think Jeff's presence in TNA is to just help get Shannon Moore a job, since the chances of him ever winding up back in the WWE are basically slim to none. It could also explain why TNA didn't really build him up that much, keeping him in a midcard presence, because they want to have him cooled off enough for when he leaves the company to head back to the WWE.
Super Crazy
CABS ARE HEEEERREEE!!
If that's true, I'd rather enjoy that. I've always been a fan Shannon's work, he always entertained me. However, we all know plans change, and honestly, as much as Jeff would like back in the WWE, I don't see it happening now. When he climbed the Steel Asylum though, I marked a little, as it reminded me of all the crazy cage matches he's been a part of.
But back on to the topic, it's nice for Jeff to help his buddy get a job again, like I said, Shannon's a good worker, and I've always been entertained by him. It should be interesting to see what they do with him.
Whether or not it's "confirmed" by the media outlets, it looked like Jeff was either back for good, or looking to make an impact (no pun intended), and get Dixie & Co. to notice him, and make them want him back.
If it was a one-off appearance, it was great. The crowd was shocked, Homicide acted rather surprised, and their little brawl got the crowd amped up after the shitty "No Contest" decision. By climbing the cage, it was a way of Hardy setting himself higher than the rest of the X Division, and the crowd loved it.
I've said I'd be a fan of him coming back, but I don't think TNA can afford the risk of him getting arrested again, or worse, having something happen to him because of his lifestyle.
If it was a one-off appearance, it was great. The crowd was shocked, Homicide acted rather surprised, and their little brawl got the crowd amped up after the shitty "No Contest" decision. By climbing the cage, it was a way of Hardy setting himself higher than the rest of the X Division, and the crowd loved it.
I've said I'd be a fan of him coming back, but I don't think TNA can afford the risk of him getting arrested again, or worse, having something happen to him because of his lifestyle.
If Jeff has officially signed with TNA - and the implication is that he has - then he is quite probably the most significant signing the company has ever had. The likes of Lashley and Christian are all well and good, and sure, quite a few people like Sting. However, think about what Hardy's last wrestling appearance was. Main eventing SummerSlam, one of the WWE's biggest events.
TNA, keen to capitalise on this, decided the best people for him to interact with would be wrestling legends like Homicide and Shannon Moore. No, wait, fuck that. Hardy starting out with anybody below Desmond Wolfe in terms of pecking order is an insult. I wouldn't be surprised if Shannon Moore was so desperate for a job that he got his good friend Jeff to use him as a bargaining chip - "I'll join the company if you give this sad cunt a job", I'd imagine he said.
So instead of advertising the fact that they just signed one of the most popular men in wrestling, TNA put all the spotlight on Hulk Hogan and his Old World Order and stuck Jeff Hardy in the under card. You can't learn that kind of business sense - I think you're born with most mental deficiencies.
TNA, keen to capitalise on this, decided the best people for him to interact with would be wrestling legends like Homicide and Shannon Moore. No, wait, fuck that. Hardy starting out with anybody below Desmond Wolfe in terms of pecking order is an insult. I wouldn't be surprised if Shannon Moore was so desperate for a job that he got his good friend Jeff to use him as a bargaining chip - "I'll join the company if you give this sad cunt a job", I'd imagine he said.
So instead of advertising the fact that they just signed one of the most popular men in wrestling, TNA put all the spotlight on Hulk Hogan and his Old World Order and stuck Jeff Hardy in the under card. You can't learn that kind of business sense - I think you're born with most mental deficiencies.
I think it will be the same as last time jeff hardy was on TNA, he will be in tna for a while then he will leave to go back to WWE who will pay him a lot more than TNA can.
Jeff Hardy probally only did it to help out his friend shannon moore, like it hs been said moore's chances of getting back into WWE are slim to none but TNA putting jeff in they're show this week wil attrackt some WWEfans to watch TNA because I am a WWE fan really i don't think much of TNA but i want to watch it now to see if Jeff stays and what happens to him
Jeff Hardy probally only did it to help out his friend shannon moore, like it hs been said moore's chances of getting back into WWE are slim to none but TNA putting jeff in they're show this week wil attrackt some WWEfans to watch TNA because I am a WWE fan really i don't think much of TNA but i want to watch it now to see if Jeff stays and what happens to him
andres torti
Dark Match Winner
If its true about the Drg test then I can understand why he want there.BECAUSE,he need to still be in the spot light.Even if he said that he wanted a break.I still think it was a one night deal.I hope he comes back to WWE really,i liked him a lot in WWE,but its also a good excuse for everybody or his fans to watch TNA.
Super Crazy
CABS ARE HEEEERREEE!!
Sorry to say, but even if he wanted to , I don't see the WWE taking him back now. They just spent months plugging his DVD only for him to appear on the opposition. If Jeff gets his job back with the WWE I'd be quite shocked. I think it was a smart move by TNA to put him in the undercard. By having him potentially placing him in the X division, he can steal the show over and over again. Also, if he should somehow get into trouble with the law again, it's not a huge deal to lose someone in the X division as opposed to the main event.
Spillz3000
Pre-Show Stalwart
I don't understand how true Jeff Hardy fans can all of a sudden hate him just for working for a new company. Damn maybe Sidious is right, you guys got to pull yourself from being Shareholders for just a second and actually take a chance to be excited that your favorite wrestler can potentially have a great career elsewhere. Is it really that much of a crime if Jeff Hardy helps TNA look like a viable threat to Vince and Co. I mean competition is good for everybody. You all complain about not having an alternative to all the comedy bullshit in WWE and when TNA tries to provide an alternative you guys shit all over it. I think some people need to re-evaluate themselves and see if they are still wrestling fans or not. I'm actually excited at the fact that TNA is trying to put themselves on a new level and I wish them luck. Do I see them beating WWE probably not but I welcome the fact that they are not scared to try. This could be the dumbest or smartest move Dixie Carter has made but lets save our insults for when it doesn't work. Till then give it a damn chance.
andres torti
Dark Match Winner
Im with you there,Vince has to be really pissed of wright now.I think even Matt is pissed at Jeff
Because in my opinion de WWE gived Jeff everything,they made him a star,they gave him a oportunity.Plus the dvd is coming out on Jeff.I wouldnt be suprised if they cancel it.Well i will talk for me.I wasnt a huge fan of Jeff but i liked him as a wrestler.I thought he was one of the best.Because of his skills.But its hard to see him in TNA,dont forget that a lot of fans aprecciate Jeff,thats true,but more of them likes WWE more then they like just one wrestler.Or thats what i think.Plus compare TNA with WWE right now is impossible..
your right Vince will be pissed at Jeff for appearin on TNA but noone knows if hes there to stay or not, and Vince is a businessman isnt he and it would make him more money to have Jeff Hardy back and why would matt be pissed with him cuz matt's his brother and if jeff wants o go to TNA Matt wnt be pissed
Jack-Hammer
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I'd say that Jeff Hardy's appearance on TNA television has effectively ended any hope of ever joining the WWE again. Although, I doubt that Hardy is all that worried about it. TNA has a much lighter schedule and he can still make pretty good money working such a schedule in TNA. It's probably not nearly what he'd make in the WWE, but I'd say Jeff probably isn't hurting for money these days.
However, the good times might not last all that long. He was indicted yesterday by the Grand Jury in Moore County, North Carolina. This means that his case will be on the docket probably by the end of next week. It's not a trial, it'll probably be something along the lines of a bail hearing and all that. Originally, there was supposed to be a hearing later this month in order to determine if there was enough evidence held to let the case go to the Grand Jury. However, that's moot since the GJ voted to indict yesterday.
However, the good times might not last all that long. He was indicted yesterday by the Grand Jury in Moore County, North Carolina. This means that his case will be on the docket probably by the end of next week. It's not a trial, it'll probably be something along the lines of a bail hearing and all that. Originally, there was supposed to be a hearing later this month in order to determine if there was enough evidence held to let the case go to the Grand Jury. However, that's moot since the GJ voted to indict yesterday.
Turd Ferguson
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Yup... here's the story. Jeff's going to do some hard time, methinks.
Federal trafficking charges are a bitch. This is taking place in the South, where they're more likely to "make an example", if you know what I'm getting at.
I think TNA should have been a lot more up-front with Jeff, asking him what kind of stuff he's currently dealing with regarding these charges, and finding out the deal with the state of North Carolina since chances are he wouldn't be up front with them. Instead, the company now has egg on their faces considering Jeff has to stand in front of a grand jury next week, and has to more than likely do some serious time for this. They signed him not to a pay-per-appearance deal, but a contract. Keep in mind this happened before last night. Apparently the value of the surprise meant THAT much to TNA, but now they're going to disappoint the fans that think that Jeff is going to be on TNA for an extended period of time.
Also, Jeff was an idiot when he gave Homicide that chair shot. That just looked and sounded brutal, but they appeased that one redneck girl with yellow teeth who wanted unprotected chair shots so it's all good!
Federal trafficking charges are a bitch. This is taking place in the South, where they're more likely to "make an example", if you know what I'm getting at.
I think TNA should have been a lot more up-front with Jeff, asking him what kind of stuff he's currently dealing with regarding these charges, and finding out the deal with the state of North Carolina since chances are he wouldn't be up front with them. Instead, the company now has egg on their faces considering Jeff has to stand in front of a grand jury next week, and has to more than likely do some serious time for this. They signed him not to a pay-per-appearance deal, but a contract. Keep in mind this happened before last night. Apparently the value of the surprise meant THAT much to TNA, but now they're going to disappoint the fans that think that Jeff is going to be on TNA for an extended period of time.
Also, Jeff was an idiot when he gave Homicide that chair shot. That just looked and sounded brutal, but they appeased that one redneck girl with yellow teeth who wanted unprotected chair shots so it's all good!
I mean i understand the kind of hype he brings to the company and him being on your first monday night episode is huge to all the people who like to see him but what happens now if his case goes through and hes giving significant jail time? Does that make TNA look bad using a star on the verge of jail and possibly prison time? Hopefully he wont face any major time but you never know.With his history the jury could give him a harsh reality check based on all he was said to have in his possession at the time of arrest..
I like Hardy a lot and hope he cleans his act up but honestly if he is found guilty and hit with a significant prison sentence does this make TNA look bad at all?
Id like to think No but given the situation and all the shots they do take at WWE i think this gives WWE fire power they dont need at the start of what could be another great ratings war era in pro wrestling and when you give the competition stuff to use against you most of the time they will take advantage.Lets just wait and see what all comes out of this.
Hope Hardy if given some sort of probation and he isnt sent away but judging from his very public personally issues with drugs it could go either way.
I like Hardy a lot and hope he cleans his act up but honestly if he is found guilty and hit with a significant prison sentence does this make TNA look bad at all?
Id like to think No but given the situation and all the shots they do take at WWE i think this gives WWE fire power they dont need at the start of what could be another great ratings war era in pro wrestling and when you give the competition stuff to use against you most of the time they will take advantage.Lets just wait and see what all comes out of this.
Hope Hardy if given some sort of probation and he isnt sent away but judging from his very public personally issues with drugs it could go either way.