Jeff Hardy is NOTHING in TNA

[The_Phoenix]

This is laughable honestly. Classic case of IWC smarks getting what they've bitched and moaned for in the past and then changing their opinion at the drop of a hat.

When Jeff left the WWE this place was running rampant with rumors and hypotheticals about a TNA return. Mind you this was before the new-era Monday Night Wars was announced. Now we have die hard WWE nuthuggers lashing out in protest because TNA managed to land someone that is actually worth a shit and poses a threat in ratings.

First point I'd like to make: This is business. TNA is trying to pull itself out of the "minor league" label half you smarks have plastered on their product. How, pray tell, does a wrestling promotion do that? They seek out people that are proven to sell merchandise and put asses in seats a la Jeff Hardy.

Second point, this is supposed to be a rehashing of a rivalry that took the professional wrestling business to astronomical heights and delivered the platform to cement pro wrestling's place in mainstream media. For all of you that are so down on the head to head broadcasts and blasting TNA's new acquisitions on principal alone, are you seriously that delusional? I mean honestly, this has the potential to bring back a little competition and stir up some interest that WWE has been failing to maintain for years now. Competition produces results. End of that particular discussion.

My final point is this: Jeff Hardy has been dealing with legal issues as of late. Considering there was talk of him negotiating a deal with MTV about a reality show, take a moment to evaluate how this appears to the higher ups that have/had control of the rumored deal. How does it benefit them to sign and financially back someone who is in a pending court case for drug trafficking.

Guilty or not the mass media would have a field day with such a thing as the majority of you smarks out there have done on these very forums. Essentially, take into account that Jeff's "future endeavors" following his exit from the WWE might have fallen through of been put on hold. Then what? If Jeff has decided to return to TNA as opposed to WWE clearly there are some personal factors that play into it.

So before you mindlessly flame someone for not fitting into your personal fantasies, zoom out and take a look at the big picture before considering your options and taking a moment to THINK about your words.

 

[The Kop]

This is my first post and I am sure I will be ripped, but here goes. Jeff Hardy going to TNA isn't career suicide. Vince takes EVERYONE back (with the exception of Warrior and Macho, but I wouldn't be surprised to see either one or both of them make an appearance eventually). I see people saying that he wants to be in TNA so he can use drugs as if they actually know Jeff. I am guessing that nobody posting on this thread actually knows Jeff. If they do know him, it surely isn't well enough to be saying these things with absolute certainty. The info that WE get comes from people that probably don't know him that well if at all.

As far as the topic, I am excited to see Jeff in TNA. I am not a big fan of Jeff's, but I do appreciate what he can do in the ring. Hopefully, he gets the chance to show what he can do to the same degree that WWE allowed him. Whatever his reason(s) for going to TNA are, it is HIS decision. Maybe he wanted a lighter schedule, to work with his friend Shannon Moore again, who really knows other than Jeff and the people close to him.

For those that are Jeff Hardy fans. Support him. That is what fans do. WWE may have given him his opportunity, but he was the one that took his latest opportunity and made it work. In reality, it is YOU, the fans, that made him as big as he got...not the WWE. The fans have the ultimate say, usually, on who gets big and who doesn't. Promotions can push whomever they want, but if the fans don't buy into it, they will not flourish. He isn't a traitor. Remember how many guys left WWE to go to WCW? Were they traitors? If they were, they sure still got pops and drew money.

So, support Jeff if you want, don't support him if you don't want to. I, for one, welcome his move as I am someone who is hoping TNA is successful. The Monday Night Wars were the best time to be a fan and if TNA can at least provide a viable alternative to WWE, it is ultimately the best thing for the business and the fans.

 

[Nikeo]

Before you all start spazzing you should probably take into account that it is NOT confirmed that this is anything more than a one shot deal.

Secondly, career suicide? Lol.

Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Sean Waltman. The latter two "jumped ship" to the competition and set into motion a period in which the WWF nearly went out of business. What happened to them? They were welcomed back with open arms a couple of years later. They didn't burn their bridges, they were stars made by the WWF and Vince McMahon.

Hulk Hogan jumping to WCW? He ended up back in the WWE, Christian jumped to TNA and ended up back in the WWE. Angle was going to be welcomed back when his contract with TNA was set to expire, he jumped to the same company Jeff may have.

Oh hey, let's not forget that current TNA EMPLOYEE Kevin Nash was backstage at Wrestlemania 24 watching with Vince McMahon himself. Time and time and time again guys have jumped to the competition and ended up back in the WWE a couple years later.

It's been proven time and time again, if there's money to be made then Vince McMahon will put aside all of his personal feelings and do business. There's so much more money to be made on Jeff's name and Vince McMahon will not let any ill-feelings get in the way with that. Case in point, the guy who's currently hosting Raw.

 

[Deus1138]

Yeah, but when Hall and Waltman "jumped ship" last time, they actually had a pretty decent track record of showing up to shows like they were supposed to. And they could do a halfway decent job of working a show when they did show up.

Did anyone else notice the cameras cutting away from Hogan as he limped down the ramp??

Face it, TNA isn't what WCW was 12 years ago. WCW had potential and a lot of money backing it. TNA is just WWE rejects and retirees.

 

[Nikeo]

Yeah, but when Hall and Waltman "jumped ship" last time, they actually had a pretty decent track record of showing up to shows like they were supposed to. And they could do a halfway decent job of working a show when they did show up.

Did anyone else notice the cameras cutting away from Hogan as he limped down the ramp??

Face it, TNA isn't what WCW was 12 years ago. WCW had potential and a lot of money backing it. TNA is just WWE rejects and retirees.

Ah yes because Jeff Hardy did NOTHING but put on crap shows during his last WWE tenure, he didn't ignite the main-event scene on Smackdown. He didn't steal the show with Edge at Extreme Rules, he didn't outsell Cena's merch week in and week out.

Hall and Nash in WCW DIDN'T show up when they were supposed to, they did whatever the hell they wanted. Jeff was suspended for Wellness issues in WWE this time, not no-shows. Just like with everyone else, if Vince can make money from Jeff Hardy which he most certainly can, he'll welcome him back with open arms.....again.

Jeff jumped ship to TNA a couple of years ago and...returned to the WWE.

I can't agree more with The Phoenix, smarks just love to bloody moan about EVERYTHING, even when they get what they want. I'm not sticking up for TNA, I don't get my kicks from watching Super Eric or "Eugene" like Abyss but if they've signed Jeff Hardy (not ignoring his legal situation) they've signed undisputedly one of the two biggest draws in the industry at the moment. That is no small feat.

EDIT: For those of you who said "Jeff would do nothing for TNA" the search term "Jeff Hardy TNA" has become the 7th most popular search term on all of google in the last hour. That's surely not exposure.

 

[alok]

Hey friends,

You need to understand one thing. Jeff never was, he never is and never will be a BIG star in TNA. Only WWE can use him and make him the biggest star that he certainly can. Also, this seems to be a short term deal with TNA and I think that he'll end up returning to WWE to take his real wrestling career to the new levels.

 

[Thephenomemenon]

I know that it is kind of early to start the conspiracy theory talk, but does anyone think that maybe Vince told Jeff to go. I mean I understand that Vince has yet to acknowledge TNA but if you recall the last monday night war was started by stars jumping ship. Can you imagine if Jeff Hardy showed up on Smackdown on Friday and said something along the lines of this is where the best are. If Vince really wanted to kill the competition it would be a great idea.

I am sure this isn't very likely but I think it would be crazy and would really bring back the idea of anything can happen

 

[I_Like_All_Wrestling]

I know that it is kind of early to start the conspiracy theory talk, but does anyone think that maybe Vince told Jeff to go. I mean I understand that Vince has yet to acknowledge TNA but if you recall the last monday night war was started by stars jumping ship. Can you imagine if Jeff Hardy showed up on Smackdown on Friday and said something along the lines of this is where the best are. If Vince really wanted to kill the competition it would be a great idea.

I am sure this isn't very likely but I think it would be crazy and would really bring back the idea of anything can happen

I'm pretty sure that there's got to be some legal issues involved with that. I don't think you can pay someone to essentially sabotage another company...especially on live tv.

Now, what I think is funny is how over Hardy was in WWE and now that he shows up again in TNA tons of people are saying it's terrible and he's a has been. I'm no Hardy fan but he was just about the most over person in WWE a few months ago, him going to TNA is huge. We'll just see if people follow him this time.

 

[colalella2891]

WTF are you all talking about? It wasn't announced that Jeff has signed a contract with TNA. I don't see that ANYWHERE. Just because he made a return on the show does not mean he has signed there. What the hell is wrong with all of you? Show me the proof that he signed with TNA and I will take back what I said.

 

[Baximus]

This was my biggest pop of the night, because I didn't expect it one iota.

Jeff isn't commiting any career suicide. He's going to win the X Division title and take that division up one huge notch.

 

[Deus1138]

Ah yes because Jeff Hardy did NOTHING but put on crap shows during his last WWE tenure, he didn't ignite the main-event scene on Smackdown. He didn't steal the show with Edge at Extreme Rules, he didn't outsell Cena's merch week in and week out.

Hall and Nash in WCW DIDN'T show up when they were supposed to, they did whatever the hell they wanted. Jeff was suspended for Wellness issues in WWE this time, not no-shows. Just like with everyone else, if Vince can make money from Jeff Hardy which he most certainly can, he'll welcome him back with open arms.....again.

Jeff jumped ship to TNA a couple of years ago and...returned to the WWE.

I can't agree more with The Phoenix, smarks just love to bloody moan about EVERYTHING, even when they get what they want. I'm not sticking up for TNA, I don't get my kicks from watching Super Eric or "Eugene" like Abyss but if they've signed Jeff Hardy (not ignoring his legal situation) they've signed undisputedly one of the two biggest draws in the industry at the moment. That is no small feat.

EDIT: For those of you who said "Jeff would do nothing for TNA" the search term "Jeff Hardy TNA" has become the 7th most popular search term on all of google in the last hour. That's surely not exposure.

FYI, Jeff was recently arrested for drug trafficking! There's a difference between Rob Van Dam getting a ticket for a joint and Jeff Hardy getting charged with DRUG TRAFFICKING!

I wouldn't count on seeing Jeff around too much longer...unless you plan on visiting him in prison.

 

[AutumnHeartBreak]

I don't think it's a career suicide on his part. Jeff was getting a huge pop in WWE and TNA wanted a wider and bigger set of audience so it kinda makes sense. Him signing with TNA might actually attract some of his kiddie fans to watch the show even though the show is TV - 14. I mean I was watching the attitude era when i was like 8 or 9, I don't see why the other kids can't.

 

[Heat Daddy]

I actually enjoyed Jeff's last WWE run, especially his wars with CM Punk, The Undertaker, and Triple H. I became a Jeff fan for the first time and felt it when he left. I'll watch him in TNA but it won't be the same. I was dying for him to come back home and go after CM Punk and now I have to look forward to him battling X-Division guys? He should at least jump into a feud with AJ Styles if TNA really pushes him this time. I'll have to wait and see how it works out but I'm a little disappointed right now. Jeff will always be a WWE guy to me. Lastly, now that the mock Monday Night War is over, I think both shows were good. TNA came with shocks and trips down memory lane while RAW delivered it's best show in a long time and both programs opened up doors for future thrills. All in all, I had fun and was more excited about wrestling than I've been in years.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I have a question.

I remember reading some rumblings last week about Jeff being in negotiations with the WWE to possibly come back at Wrestlemania and continue the feud with CM Punk. You had to know it was slowly being alluded to with Punk continuing to lay into Jeff, ripping on his DVD, etc. I was annoyed because I really don't like Jeff Hardy, but at least Smackdown would have gotten a little bit of a kick in the pants... one that it's sort of needed since Batista went back to Smackdown and turned heel.

Then last week, it was also confirmed that under the WWE's Wellness Policy, two strikes is two strikes, period... meaning that if someone who had two strikes on their record came back after a hiatus, they'd still be subject to the rule.

Do you guys think that Jeff has given up on a WWE return, knowing that sooner or later, he'd test hot again? It's bad enough that he already got drug busted two weeks after he left the WWE. He had to know he'd be under much scrutiny and would be watched with a very careful eye. TNA doesn't have too much of a defined drug policy, and I'm sure they'll look the other way because Jeff has a major fanbase, and he will move merchandise for the company.

 

[Rzarectah]

Hey friends,

You need to understand one thing. Jeff never was, he never is and never will be a BIG star in TNA. Only WWE can use him and make him the biggest star that he certainly can. Also, this seems to be a short term deal with TNA and I think that he'll end up returning to WWE to take his real wrestling career to the new levels.

Yeah fuckin right. He may not have been the biggest star the first time around, but he certainly will be this time. I guarantee that TNA will push him as one of the top stars in the buisness, and if they don't then they are very mistaken.

 

[Reddannihilation]

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And that chairshot to Homicide just proves the lack of concern TNA has for their wrestlers and for the business. They still use chairshots, despite the clear evidence of how dangerous they are.

So, do you actually have your own opinions? Or do you just parrot back everything Jim Ross says in his blog and call it yours?

This is a great move for TNA and a great move for Jeff. Jeff's best matches have always been gimmick matches, namely Ladder matches and hardcore matches. There's the obvious bonus of having a lighter work schedule, that coupled with the fact that Hardy will have much greater freedom on what he's allowed to do in ring could potentially lead to some excellent matches/feuds. I can't wait to see how it pans out.

 

[krispix]

Then last week, it was also confirmed that under the WWE's Wellness Policy, two strikes is two strikes, period... meaning that if someone who had two strikes on their record came back after a hiatus, they'd still be subject to the rule.

Do you guys think that Jeff has given up on a WWE return, knowing that sooner or later, he'd test hot again? It's bad enough that he already got drug busted two weeks after he left the WWE. He had to know he'd be under much scrutiny and would be watched with a very careful eye.

If Jeff really is signing with TNA, then I think this is key. Regardless of how much merchandise Jeff Hardy can sell, WWE cannot keep him if he fails a drug test one more time. Plus, if TNA is willing to do the same "pay for play" deal with Jeff that they may be doing with Scott Hall and X-Pac, Jeff Hardy TNA appearances seem much more feasible than a WWE return in the very near future.

 

[Skorpiunz]

I think the term that has summed it up best for me on this situation was this:

"Jeff is a star in WWE. He's not a star in TNA"

Maybe he needs those huge pops from thousands of fans to add to his persona I don't know, but the small time atmosphere of TNA really constricts the rock star image of Jeff Hardy. He's just not that big a deal in TNA, he's a mega-star in WWE.

I don't get this move at all. Yes I understand not wanting the travel schedule, don't get me wrong. I guess he's financially stable, doesn't really care that much about his legacy and simply wants to have fun. OK, maybe I do get it a little bit.

You must not be a TNA fan. If so, Don't talk about his fame within TNA. All long term fans of TNA, and fans who tune into BOTH WWE and TNA, recognize Jeff Hardy. His previous run in TNA, he wore face paint, he was crazy and wild. WWE practically said NO, you do what we tell you. Maybe he just wants to help TNA get to the top because he knows its right.

 

[kingofkings31]

jeff hardy in tna... who fucking cares he's now "broke" and needs drug money so he signs up with tna how long will he last... not long hahah what a waste of a talent sorry to say i know the high flying antics hurt like hell but u dont need drugs to kill the pain

 

[MisterRob]

So, do you actually have your own opinions? Or do you just parrot back everything Jim Ross says in his blog and call it yours?

This is a great move for TNA and a great move for Jeff. Jeff's best matches have always been gimmick matches, namely Ladder matches and hardcore matches. There's the obvious bonus of having a lighter work schedule, that coupled with the fact that Hardy will have much greater freedom on what he's allowed to do in ring could potentially lead to some excellent matches/feuds. I can't wait to see how it pans out.

I haven't read Jim Ross's blog. But I'm glad my mind works in a similar fashion as someone intelligent and experienced in the wrestling business. Thanks for the compliment!

It certainly can't be a bad move for TNA to get Jeff Hardy, and it's a good move for Hardy because he has a lighter schedule and doesn't have to worry about the standards he had to hold in WWE. But I'll laugh when he's just buried in the lower card and overshadowed by older, past their prime talents in TNA now.

 

[chisox05matt]

Its called free agency people, Do u think Lebron james should stay with the Cavs just because u was a superstar with them, maybe he will maybe he wont. Hardy made a decision that he thought was right for him and me being a bigger TNA fan i couldnt be happier. So all u idiots who think jeff committed career suicide, f off, there is more than one wrestling org out there, its not all about the WWE and their lame DX comedy skits.

P.S. Seamus vs AJ Styles the respective wrestlers for their flagship shows. only one of these wrestlers is a skilled and talented and he happens to work for TNA

 

[Dagger Dias]

I'm not sure why Jeff Hardy went to TNA, but it was cool that he was on the show. I'm not expecting him to be there very long however. He is a much bigger star now than he was during his last run in TNA though. Now that he is a former world champion he will probably get a decent push. He could have just gone back to WWE instead of TNA in my opinion since he had so much momentum there at the end (and this is coming from someone who doesn't like him that much).... TNA is taking a big risk if Hardy has indeed joined them, but at least we will be in for some interesting moments in that case because he is capable of providing that.

 

[Spillz3000]

I think this is a great move for TNA. Why not sign one of WWE's biggest stars to try and level the playing field. I know if I was TNA I would have done the same damn thing. There's definitely a lot of different directions they can go with this and I'm excited to see what happens. So before we criticize this how about we see how it pans out. But i'm excited and I really hope TNA can keep the ball rolling and give us more surprises to keep us glued to the TV.

 

[OffTheRopRope]

Imagine how Matt hardy feels right now? 'Oh great, my bro just screwed me...who knows, maybe I can get a job working at TNA getting paid 1/3 of what I currently get.' It really doesn't make any sense to me, being that Jeff has been mentioned on every raw for the past few months and they just put out his DVD. I have a feeling there is more to this that what we see on TV and twitter.

 

[pattycat22]

I was thrilled to see Jeff Hardy's surprise debut tonight on Impact. I'm assuming either his charges were dropped or he cut a deal-it doesn't make any sense for TNA to go out & get him otherwise. It's a good step for them, one that will bring fans to the table. Unlike the other big names that TNA brought in tonight, Hardy is actually still young & viable. I'm betting he went to TNA (vs. back to WWE) because he was offered a flexible schedule & perhaps even a package deal regarding The Hardy Show. Maybe Universal is now sponsoring his other sideline ventures. As for the posters who think he betrayed Matt, I'm sure Matt knew about & discussed this move with his brother & is supportive as always. I wouldn't be that shocked if Matt ends up switching to TNA, since the WWE basically does nothing with him. (especially since buddy Shannon Moore is also a new Impact signee.)
Jeff going to TNA is no more a betrayal to the fans that loved him during his WWE tenure than it is for any football/basketball/baseball player of free agency who negotiates a contract with an opposing team when their old one is up. Seriously, some of you (s)marks take these things way too personally.
It's clear that Jeff did not want the pressures of being in the WWE and all that carried with it. Perhaps TNA & 2010 is the fresh start he's been looking for. I personally will be watching & wishing him luck.