If Jeff Hardy is convicted....

[Maikeru_1979]

First off and off topic...Jeff Hardy is going to do little to NO time for what he is being tried for(or lack of trial) How many times has the Jeff Hardy case been postponed. hell people he was arrested a year ago and went to court the first time in November of last year I believe. and there is a little law in the US that stipulates that ALL americans have a right to a speedy trial( usually means trial completed within 1 year) yet they keep postponing it. anyone got any ideas on why. They are going to end up droping a couple charges eventually and plea bargin the others down.


Now I am in no way condoning what Jeff has done I am a recovered Meth and Coke user myself. I will be truelly shocked if TNA gives Jeff the title at Bound for Glory. And NO i don't think that Angle will win either. I don't think that Jeff will win the title while the trial still looms over his head. And if he is convicted of 1 or more of the crimes that he is charged with, no I don't think that TNA should give him a send off any larger than a short message through the Announcers saying he will be gone from TNA for awhile.

 

[The Raven's Epitaph]

Hardy doesn't deserve anymore chances. He's had more than enough to change his life around and people still talk about how "Jeff has overcome so much in his life." - He hasn't overcome anything whatsoever; I'll hand it to him, he lost his Mother when he was younger yeah, that must of been hard; but everything else? No. He's a drug addict plain and simple and just because he's a big "star" in a terribly composed backlot company, doesn't give him the right be getting away with all his illegalities.

 

[xdrewmcintyrefanx]

Personally I used to be a big Jeff fan when i was younger but when I learned he was a druggie I stopped liking him. To me this would be a stupid idea for TNA. Give TNA's resident druggie the title one month before he goes to jail that is almost as stupid as giving Gunner or Murphy the world title for no reason. Jeff doesn't deserve it, Kurt does. Kurt is a gold medalist and Jeff is a druggie so if TNA does this they are retarted!

 

[World_Series_Attiude]

Do you know WHY people yell out "FREE ___"? Because they feel that the person was wrongly convicted. There is nothing wrong with this one should he get locked up. He got caught. End of story. I wouldn't be crying at all. In fact I doubt most people would care. Why would you want to support criminal activity? .

If you remember, Jeff said that earlier in the day he got a supicious package delivered to his home and later on that night was when his home got raided

Anyways back to the topic, putting the title on him wouldn't be rewarding his "mistakes" (innocent until proven guitly) but as a way to celebrate what he has done in his career ! The day Ric Flair decides to retire, are you going to say "No you can't have a proper send off due to mistakes you have made in the past" ?

 

[The Raven's Epitaph]

If you remember, Jeff said that earlier in the day he got a supicious package delivered to his home and later on that night was when his home got raided

Anyways back to the topic, putting the title on him wouldn't be rewarding his "mistakes" (innocent until proven guitly) but as a way to celebrate what he has done in his career ! The day Ric Flair decides to retire, are you going to say "No you can't have a proper send off due to mistakes you have made in the past" ?

Why are you so quick to defend Jeff? It's blatently obvious that you just made this thread to tell everybody that your a Jeff Hardy mark. Everytime somebody posts something relevant, you attack back with every bit of defence you can think of. Why? Jeff Hardy is a drug addict plain and simple, why can't you see that? He doesn't deserve any respect because he hasn't got any for himself.

 

[kingofkings01013]

What do you think, If convicted should TNA make Jeff Hardy Champion as a proper send off ?

After reading that i have one reaction

Clearly you are trying to get a job working for TNA cause that has to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard. All Jeff does is take drugs, not care about this business, smear paint on his face, and take any high spot you want. He is in no way a positive force in any company and you want to reward this just wow. Get a clue, learn what PR mean, and come up with something worth talking about.

 

[RatedRSuperstar]

Giving Hardy the title would just be a bad idea. He's going to jail soon, we all know that, and putting the championship on him right before he's sentenced would not only not make sense, but it would give TNA bad press, the bad press they DO NOT need!

Hardy really hasn't done anything in his second TNA run, which is because of his problems. Signing him didn't really make sense to me either. It seems like they're just asking for bad press. They may as well just sign Jim Neidhart and maybe him and Hardy could form some type of tag team. STUPID!

So, to sum everything up:

1. Do NOT give Hardy the title
2. Don't have another tournament. We've already seen 56125065172 of those this year.
3. Give the belt to someone deserving, like...ANDERSON??

 

[vampireblade]

Jeff Hardy is a fuck up plain and simple he fails at life ok this a a guy that little kids idolize and he knows it yet he is stupid enough to run a drug operation in his house just the fact that he has chosen to do drugs makes him a fuck up this is a guy whom the wwe suspended for doing drugs then brought him back he said he wouldnt do it again a few months later he is getting indicted on charges this fucker is a piece of shit in my book and he deserves to be in prison plain and simple he didnt deserve the WWE champion he didnt deserve the IC champion and he doesnt deserve the TNA champion not to mention that like everyone else on this thread I believe that while TNA needs press they dont need the type of press that would come from having Jeff hardy as their main champion they just need to go ahead and fire his ass when people ask me if im a pro wrestling fan ill tell them yes but when they ask me if i like Jeff hardy i deny him completely i am ashamed that he is part of the wrestling world

 

[World_Series_Attiude]

Kurt Angle recently said "Jeff Hardy is a future WWE and TNA hall of famer", the man deserves a proper sendoff ! Since most people are opposed to giving him the World Title how about a IMPACT Special: Jeff Hardy Go Home Edition.

Two hours documenting Jeff's greatest achievements such as breaking into the business, his first tag team titles, his first singles title and so much more ! They can even bring Jeff's band to the IMPACT zone where they can put on a performance of a lifetime

"FREE HARDY" "FREE HARDY"

 

[The Raven's Epitaph]

Kurt Angle recently said "Jeff Hardy is a future WWE and TNA hall of famer", the man deserves a proper sendoff ! Since most people are opposed to giving him the World Title how about a IMPACT Special: Jeff Hardy Go Home Edition.

Two hours documenting Jeff's greatest achievements such as breaking into the business, his first tag team titles, his first singles title and so much more ! They can even bring Jeff's band to the IMPACT zone where they can put on a performance of a lifetime

"FREE HARDY" "FREE HARDY"

Jeff Hardy in the WWE and TNA Hall of Fame? Firstly, WWE would never EVER put Jeff Hardy in the Hall of Fame because he doesn't deserve it. TNA don't even HAVE a Hall of Fame and if they do, it should be called the Hall of Shame. Get real, man. Hardy in the Hall of Fame my ass, you're just a mark.

Two hours documenting Jeff's greatest achievements. Yeah, let's see. The first time he was put in prison, the first time he ever smoked a joint and they could even bring Jeff's band to the Disney BACKLOT house where they can put on a performance and get boo'ed out of the backlot house, along with Jeff's "storied" career. He deserves to be boo'ed when he leaves. He's a menace.

"IMPRISON HARDY" - "IMPRISON HARDY".

If you actually opened your eyes are realised that Jeff Hardy is a hasbeen, pot-head; then this thread might actually be worth talking about properly.

 

[I_Am_Electro_Boy]

The first thing I want to say is why are you soo convinced that Jeff Hardy is going to prison? Celebrities or people with alot of money normally get off from going to prison, it's a fact.

What do you think, If convicted should TNA make Jeff Hardy Champion as a proper send off ?

IF Jeff Hardy is convicted then no TNA shouldn't give him the title for a good send off. First off giving a man that's going to prison your top title would be calling for bad press, secondly people who go to jail go there for a reason (not always but normally) so giving them a good send off for doing something bad doesn't make sense. I admit that I am a Jeff Hardy mark, I'm a huge Jeff fan but if he is convicted then he shouldn't be given the title.

Hopefully he isn't convicted though!!!!!!

 

[Caitiff]

First off and off topic...Jeff Hardy is going to do little to NO time for what he is being tried for(or lack of trial) How many times has the Jeff Hardy case been postponed. hell people he was arrested a year ago and went to court the first time in November of last year I believe. and there is a little law in the US that stipulates that ALL americans have a right to a speedy trial( usually means trial completed within 1 year) yet they keep postponing it. anyone got any ideas on why. They are going to end up droping a couple charges eventually and plea bargin the others down.

I got an idea as to why it keeps getting postponed. And, for the record, this is only my speculation. But, that is whay you asked for.

If I were forced to guess why his trial keeps getting postponed, I would assume that it had something to do with petitions by the defense, since Hardy is still gainfully employed, with a schedule that takes him outside of the area of that court on a very regular basis.

Bu, more on topic, I don't see any reason why Jeff Hardy is on the roster, in the first place. This is one instance where I completely believe that TNA should mimic WWE. If Jeff Hardy had been under WWE contract when he was arrested, instead of being arrested less than a week after his contract expiring, he would have been fired. Do I really need to recite the list of people who were fired from WWE for getting caught doing much less than Jeff Hardy is accused of.

And, to anyone who honestly believes that Jeff Hardy "lives and breathes" the wrestling business.... I got this old building a couple blocks away from Ground Zero. It used to be a Burlington Coat Factory. You might want to give me money fast, because someone wants to turn it into a mosque.

(Although, let's be honest for a second. He was caught with them. I don't do any of this shit. But, if someone sent me a "suspicious package," that just happened to contain a lot of easily disposable drugs, I would immediately dispose of them. And, then I would likely burn the package. According to reports, that "suspicious package" was found hidden in his attic.)

 

[welshpw]

If you remember, Jeff said that earlier in the day he got a supicious package delivered to his home and later on that night was when his home got raided

Sorry but this made me laugh, Cause of course because he said that he's innocent lol

 

[Hazardous]

World_Series.. You are a Hardy mark, we get it. Just like you are a TNA one. But you seem to fail to see that even your own people are turning against you! Riaku is one of the pure-TNA fans, and even he's calling you an idiot for threads like this. Jeff Hardy draws in the same way that Matt Hardy draws. People cheer when he's there, but don't really give a damn when he's not. When he left WWE, who really cared that he was gone? A few kids here and there. But they had Cena and DX to turn to, who are much bigger draws then Hardy. He shouldn't have gone to TNA to begin with, untill after the court shit was over. JUST in case of something like this. Don't give me that BS of "Someone set him up", that's ******ed. As is the whole idea of this topic to begin with. TNA supporting criminals will do nothing good for their company. Are they not trying to appeal to more fans? Gain a bigger fan base? Who would this attract, the guys locked up? Look past your blind love for Hardy and look at the bigger picture here. What good would come out of it? NOTHING. When the bad outweighs the good, then you DON'T DO IT.

 

[World_Series_Attiude]

Sorry but this made me laugh, Cause of course because he said that he's innocent lol

Jeff Hardy has stated in numerous interviews that he lets family, friends and fans crash at his place all the time so the supicious package could of been anyones package

I remember reading about how a Jeff Hardy fan wrote to Jeff on his offical website telling him about he's a huge fan and how he's been following him since the OMEGA days. He told Jeff that his aunt recently passed and was attending the funeral but had no place to stay. Jeff responded back saying "you can stay at my house until the funeral is over"

Anyways back to the topic, TNA should celebrate the wrestling career and all of his work inside the ring...not outside of it !

P.S Is it bad press when TNA sticks up for one of their family members ?

 

[ForzaItalia]

I think if Jeff had to do some jail time, which I think is not going to happen, yeah I think giving him the title and letting him hold for a few weeks would be good for him. I think his sendoff would make total sense because of his personal issues, but I just do not like the way of having yet another tournament. They should just do a battle royal or something to determine the new champion because that would be pretty cool. Also I think if Jeff does have to go to jail for a couple of months to a year do you really think he would come back to TNA? Hell no he would not because WWE would talk to him and snatch him right up because they need Jeff on SD! and he makes them a lot of money. So, if this was to happen it would be great, but I think Jeff would not come back to TNA because he would go to WWE because he has to support his future kid now and pay for all the medical stuff and what not you know.

 

[Hazardous]

Jeff Hardy has stated in numerous interviews that he lets family, friends and fans crash at his place all the time so the supicious package could of been anyones package
I remember reading about how a Jeff Hardy fan wrote to Jeff on his offical website telling him about he's a huge fan and how he's been following him since the OMEGA days. He told Jeff that his aunt recently passed and was attending the funeral but had no place to stay. Jeff responded back saying "you can stay at my house until the funeral is over"
Anyways back to the topic, TNA should celebrate the wrestling career and all of his work inside the ring...not outside of it !

So you totally ignored half my post to ramble on about someone staying at his house? Wow. Well even if we did live in this magical world that you do, and he was set up, who cares? Maybe choose better friends then. He can't say he aint done them before, because THAT has been proven. So what, you think he just quit? That he has nothing in his house at all that shows he's got high? I'm not even talking Weed, I mean everything else. If you're going to argue my point, at least look at the whole thing, and not just one little sentence.

P.S Is it bad press when TNA sticks up for one of their family members?

In a case like this, YES! You don't see the WWE sticking up for the Anvil, or Benoit, or Jerry Lawler JR do you? No! because that is bad PR that they don't need. And if WWE don't need it, then you better damn well believe that TNA don't need it. Throw a celebration for someone going to jail.. Let me guess, you wanted the same thing done for Lohan, and Hilton as well?
If you break the law, and get caught, IT'S YOUR FAULT.
Go to jail.
Do not pass go.
Do not collect $200.
Do not get a title.

 

[Vintage Nick]

Jeff Hardy has stated in numerous interviews that he lets family, friends and fans crash at his place all the time so the supicious package could of been anyones package

I remember reading about how a Jeff Hardy fan wrote to Jeff on his offical website telling him about he's a huge fan and how he's been following him since the OMEGA days. He told Jeff that his aunt recently passed and was attending the funeral but had no place to stay. Jeff responded back saying "you can stay at my house until the funeral is over"

Anyways back to the topic, TNA should celebrate the wrestling career and all of his work inside the ring...not outside of it !

P.S Is it bad press when TNA sticks up for one of their family members ?

Doesn't that contradict what you said about him being sent
the package?

We should celebrate Hardy's career? Alright, let's set up the Benoit celebration too! I mean, he did tremendous things inside the ring no doubt, so let's forget his outside actions too!

And yes, it is bad press if TNA "stick up for their family member". If he's convicted on drug charges, TNA will get bad rep knowing the media. Even they aren't that stupid to back him up.

 

[Davi323]

If Jeff Hardy didn't have a long previous history of drug abuse, your theory might have at least 5% plausibility. It would still be ridiculous, but at least marginally plausible, at least to anyone with less than an IQ of 70. This is hardly his first brush with the law on drug related charges though. I am hoping that you are really young, and simply don't know any better, because your entire premise is ridiculous to the point that I want to quote Billy Madison, and say that we are all dumber for having read it.

 

[wrestlebomb89]

Yeah,i think TNA should drop jeff hardy.He's been given enough wake-up calls to stop being a fucking tool and straighten up his act but apparently,he just doesnt give a shit.He just wants to be an addict.You'd have thought that after his house burnt down,he was going to turn it around.As for putting the belt on him,i've got a better send off for him.Instead of giving him a title,slap a pair of cuffs and an orange jumpsuit and leave his ass in jail there.He clearly hasnt learnt from his mistakes before,what makes you think he's going to learn now?If i were TNA,i'd do something actually right for once and drop him,and you know,i think they will.I can only imagine what his brother thinks of this.


But on a related note,i think TNA will drop jeff on daddy carter or dixie carter's behalf on account of they wouldnt want some crackhead putting out bad publicity for there company theyre trying to get attention for.And putting a title on jeff would be a hell of a spin-doctor's job to try and make it seemlogical to put a tile ona casualty.

 

[Tastycles]

I remember reading about how a Jeff Hardy fan wrote to Jeff on his offical website telling him about he's a huge fan and how he's been following him since the OMEGA days. He told Jeff that his aunt recently passed and was attending the funeral but had no place to stay. Jeff responded back saying "you can stay at my house until the funeral is over"

Why would anyone, ever write that on a wrestler's website? Oh, by the way, I'm going to Leeds in a few weeks, but I haven't got anywhere to stay.


Anyway, I'm going to go against the grain on this one. The mainstream don't even know TNA exists, and the headline on TMZ will read "former WWE World Champion convicted on drugs charges". At least this way TNA might get their names on the internet. Probably not though. I think it's a case of some publicity is good publicity.

 

[Hombre Malo]

I don't think Hardy doing time would preclude him from a WWE or TNA contract. MVP did a bid for manslaughter after all. I think it will hurt and possibly end his career as he'd be doing a long bid for those felony charges. It could even help Matt Hardy's career as his brother would basically no longer be mentioned and he could step out from being the "lesser" brother. He'd be the only hardy.

 

[UFOcalling]

First of all, I seriously doubt that TNA will (or is even considering the possibility to) put the world title on Jeff Hardy at BFG. If Hardy is sentenced for jail-time due to his current legal situation, a "send-off" is hardly necessary.

I tried doing a google search to see if Hardy has any priors (prior convictions), and couldn't find any. That doesn't mean that they don't exist, that just means that I couldn't find any information. So...if the charges that Jeff is currently facing is technically his FIRST OFFENSE (with the LEGAL SYSTEM), then this will be plea-bargained down to a mickey-mouse punishment. My best guess is that he'll be sentenced for "drug possession", and the felony will be plea-bargained down to a misdemeanor.

If Hardy goes to prison, he won't even be there for an entire month. My guess for his punishment is that he's put on probation for a year. That would include a LOT of money to be paid, and he'll probably have to provide urine samples either monthly or weekly. Now...I can see Jeff "accidentally" forget to show up for one of those random urine-screens, or flat-out FAIL one of his tests with flying colors. A situation like that could very well land him in jail, or maybe just prolong his probation.

Let's say that Hardy DOES have to serve jail time. Even if he has to go because of a "probation violation", I doubt that he'd have to go for longer than 30 days (10 days seems FAR more likely to me). If TNA is willing to have Jeff on the roster while he's waiting to be tried for these crimes, why would you think that they wouldn't want him on the roster after he's sentenced? My point is this - if Hardy went to jail, TNA would let him start working the minute he was released...so...why would this be a reason to give Jeff a "farewell party" at TNA? He'd only be absent for one or two episodes of Impact, and/or possibly one PPV.

Either way, TNA would be smart to keep titles off him until he's done with the legal system. If they were smarter, they'd keep him off the ROSTER until he finished his time with the legal system, but Jeff has too much "name recognition" for TNA to do that.

My hope is that Jeff gets his act together, because he's still got a promising career ahead of him. Hopefully this will be enough to scare him straight, for the sake of his career (and ability to support himself financially).

 

[Rasha]

Anyways back to the topic, putting the title on him wouldn't be rewarding his "mistakes" (innocent until proven guitly) but as a way to celebrate what he has done in his career ! The day Ric Flair decides to retire, are you going to say "No you can't have a proper send off due to mistakes you have made in the past" ?

Is Jeff retiring? No, he's going to prison. If you're going to make comparisons, at least try and stay on the same freakin' page.

I know it's hard to admit when you're wrong, but try and look around at all of the negative feedback your post has produced. Why do you keep trying to defend this viewpoint? You love Jeff, and I'm happy for you. We all need someone to love. But stop this trail of fail now and you can prevent more and more people bashing your idea.

Then you, Jeff, and the unicorn you guys ride around the land of Nanabooboo on can live in peace.

 

[mvalley]

If Jeff is convicted, they should NOT put the title on him. The champ is suppose to represent the company....it would not bode well for the company if their world champion is due for some significant jail time.

Just for an example, look at the negative press the WWE received when they had the 'Benoit tribute' show just as they were getting word of what really happened. They were torn apart. However, the WWE did have the ability to say they made the decision based on what they knew about Benoit and was giving the benefit of the doubt.

TNA can say the same with hiring Jeff. They are giving the benefit of the doubt that Jeff is innocent. Now, if they hired him after he is found guilty or give him the title / a farewell, that would be insanity and bad publicity to the extreme.

Also, a second tournament is crazy. I am fine with TNA having a tournament for the title - it's their first for the world title since perhaps 2002. However, another world title tournament right afterwards devalues the title and the company.