Is it Time to Fire Jeff Hardy?

[It's Damn Real!]

If my initial feeling is correct, and Hardy was indeed high as a kite (drunk, whatever), he needs to go. TNA may want to keep him around, because he draws, BROTHER. But they can't. Again, assuming the reports are true.

He just made a mockery of the entire company, and everyone who works within that company. He destroyed a main event, plain and simple. A main event that people paid to see.

If this wasn't a work, Hardy must be fired. There's no other way around it. If anyone in TNA has half a brain, they will can Hardy, apologize in some fashion, and move on. Never mention this travesty again. Turning this into a storyline, if Hardy was actually intoxicated, would be totally classless.

Can't just pretend it never happened though, Nick.

From what I'm reading there are numerous meetings going on in Orlando right now, most of which are centered around a push to send Hardy home and remove him from television which is the first step to success here.

Regardless of what he was on or consumed, he was obviously not in condition to perform.

He proceeded to come out to the ring regardless and as you noted, ruined the main event people paid to see. Yes, this is absolutely an unacceptable situation, but I don't think it requires his being fired (necessarily) either, though. If he's simply sent home until a more permanent decision can be made on his status in the company, that would be perfectly acceptable IMO.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Can't just pretend it never happened though, Nick.

Apologize, and move forward. You can't completely ignore it, but turning it into a storyline is not a good idea. Again, assuming this was a real situation, and not a work.

From what I'm reading there are numerous meetings going on in Orlando right now, most of which are centered around a push to send Hardy home and remove him from television which is the first step to success here.

I agree.

He proceeded to come out to the ring regardless and as you noted, ruined the main event people paid to see. Yes, this is absolutely an unacceptable situation, but I don't think it requires his being fired (necessarily) either, though. If he's simply sent home until a more permanent decision can be made on his status in the company, that would be perfectly acceptable IMO.

If TNA wants to pay the bill for his rehab, fine. If they want to send him somewhere to receive treatment, I'm fine with that. But we can't overlook the elephant in the room--he's currently on trial for drug possession/trafficking. That means something.

It's a character issue. Hardy has problems, and I sympathize, I really do. However, his problems cannot keep being the problems of everyone around him. He did the same shit while working for the WWE, and it seems as though it's happening in TNA.

If TNA wants to pay for this guy to clean up, fine. If they believe a few months of treatment will get this guy back on track, good for them. If this turns out to be some sort of redemption story, Hardy gets back on track, and keeps his job, I won't complain. But this cannot be turned into a storyline, I'm sorry. This isn't a TNA thing, I would say the same thing if WWE were to go that far.

 

[wwe fan2009]

if anyone saw it you can cleaely tell he was on something, and he should be fired now. but TNa is also to blame for giving him title runs and title shots. jeff has shown he is nothing but unprofessional. TNA should have known better

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

I really do know what to make of this. If Jeff Hardy was so stoned or whatever that he couldn't perform on a PPV he should be fired as soon as possible. But the thing is, we don't know as of now what happened. Whatever happened was definitly at the last minute, because there is no way they couldn't have known beforehand ( for the record i don't believe dirt sheets). For christ sake they could have had Bischoff come before the ring intros and do something, instead he was there after the ring intros so that was very last minute. Either way something is going to happen but to whom i don't know.

 

[airvar]

I can't honestly even blame hardy at this point. He's been to court numerous times for serious drug allegations. He had the title taken from him 3 months ago because they were worried about his health, and the status of the drug charges. Then he was thrust back INTO the main event and now showed up to the main event of a PPV allgedly not in the right state of mind to wrestle a match.

Yes Jeff Hardy caused the problem, but if your supervisor KNOWS you are not visbly well (Drunk, on crack, ect.) and STILL puts you out there then your supervisor takes resposibility for you being out there.

Jeff Hardy was not well, Jeff Hardy has not been well for some time. He wasn't THAT messed up and nobody noticed untill he walked down the ramp.. They should have done SOMETHING.. ANYTHING to make sure Jeff WAS NOT invovled in that main event. I'd rather see illogical non-sensical booking , with a leaked report that Hardy was too hammered to work, than see them actually attempt a match with somebody in no condition to do so.


This mistake falls more on the managment and people who let hardy out into that ring than on Hardy himself..

Jeff caused a problem, and TNA Managment made it a complete disaster.

 

[SpecialFNK]

apparently Jeff Hardy will not be at the Impact taping this week. how many tapings this week, 2?

Hogan/Bischoff and Immortal still a top story line. what now without Hardy for the time being? Hardy gone(for now) and Abyss has been gone for awhile. who's left? Matt Hardy, Jarrett, Gunner, Murphy, Rob Terry, Ric Flair. lol not much of a wrestling stable. Immortal needs someone else(or multiple wrestlers) to step in for Hardy, who could be gone more than just this week.

locker room in TNA can not be happy with Jeff Hardy right now.

that title belt also needs to go ASAP.

I would say right now write Jeff Hardy out of Immortal. have someone else step in. say Mr Anderson. he already seems like a top heel yes? either that or RVD, but does RVD fit well as a heel in Immortal? Jeff Hardy takes significant time off to get his life straight and clean/sober. then IF/when Jeff Hardy returns, maybe he returns as face. he could say he has been a mess playing into all the drugs and alcohol and how he has/had demons, but he is getting the help he needs. he could say how he is sorry to the fans that he let down. I think Jeff Hardy was better as a face then the time he was a heel. returning as a face (if clean) and asking for forgiveness could be a good way to get back to being face. a lot of people will give forgiveness if one asks for it.

 

[rondiesel2005]

apparently Jeff Hardy will not be at the Impact taping this week. how many tapings this week, 2?

Hogan/Bischoff and Immortal still a top story line. what now without Hardy for the time being? Hardy gone(for now) and Abyss has been gone for awhile. who's left? Matt Hardy, Jarrett, Gunner, Murphy, Rob Terry, Ric Flair. lol not much of a wrestling stable. Immortal needs someone else(or multiple wrestlers) to step in for Hardy, who could be gone more than just this week.

locker room in TNA can not be happy with Jeff Hardy right now.

that title belt also needs to go ASAP.

I would say right now write Jeff Hardy out of Immortal. have someone else step in. say Mr Anderson. he already seems like a top heel yes? either that or RVD, but does RVD fit well as a heel in Immortal? Jeff Hardy takes significant time off to get his life straight and clean/sober. then IF/when Jeff Hardy returns, maybe he returns as face. he could say he has been a mess playing into all the drugs and alcohol and how he has/had demons, but he is getting the help he needs. he could say how he is sorry to the fans that he let down. I think Jeff Hardy was better as a face then the time he was a heel. returning as a face (if clean) and asking for forgiveness could be a good way to get back to being face. a lot of people will give forgiveness if one asks for it.

I read on anther website that they send him home, but I think they are unclear what they want to do with him because Jeff Hardy still going on twitter and keeps posting comments They gonna keep him off probably till the court thing is settle and then decide what they want to do with him

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Well, at least TNA management are actually acknowledging that something is indeed off here:

Via a report from PW.net:

Hulk Hogan responded to a fan tweet that suggested the company get rid of Jeff Hardy because he has "problems that need to be sorted out." Hogan responded to the tweet by writing: "Brother, we're trying to get everything straightened out. I feel bad about some of the situations that have to be (dealt) with." To read more from Hogan, visit Twitter.com/HulkHogan4Real.

 

[Caitiff]

First, if he was stoned and still tried, give him props at least he gave it a shot. Second, he shouldn't be getting stoned at all, let alone at a ppv or normal show taping. But don't think that TNA should fire him, that would be a bad move on there part.

Are you seriously suggesting that someone whould be commended for going to work stoned? What the fuck, man? There's not a job in the world in which high off your ass" is a positive. The only way TNA can save face here is to give Jeff Hardy an immediate drug test, and, if he fails, give those results to the police, after washing your hands of the guy. Fire him. Forget he exists.

 

[wwe fan2009]

I can't honestly even blame hardy at this point. He's been to court numerous times for serious drug allegations. He had the title taken from him 3 months ago because they were worried about his health, and the status of the drug charges. Then he was thrust back INTO the main event and now showed up to the main event of a PPV allgedly not in the right state of mind to wrestle a match.

Yes Jeff Hardy caused the problem, but if your supervisor KNOWS you are not visbly well (Drunk, on crack, ect.) and STILL puts you out there then your supervisor takes resposibility for you being out there.

Jeff Hardy was not well, Jeff Hardy has not been well for some time. He wasn't THAT messed up and nobody noticed untill he walked down the ramp.. They should have done SOMETHING.. ANYTHING to make sure Jeff WAS NOT invovled in that main event. I'd rather see illogical non-sensical booking , with a leaked report that Hardy was too hammered to work, than see them actually attempt a match with somebody in no condition to do so.


This mistake falls more on the managment and people who let hardy out into that ring than on Hardy himself..

Jeff caused a problem, and TNA Managment made it a complete disaster.

exactly. TNA is equally at fault. Putting Jeff in the main event, is lelling all the kids that watch, you can be a drug addict and still main event and be world champion. I think it was a mistake for TNA to even rehire jeff in the first place. Do they not remember when he no=showed back in 03, or that he was fired in wwe for drugs If I owned a wrestling company I would never ever hire someone like Jeff. He is unprofessional and irresponsible

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Are you seriously suggesting that someone whould be commended for going to work stoned? What the fuck, man? There's not a job in the world in which high off your ass" is a positive. The only way TNA can save face here is to give Jeff Hardy an immediate drug test, and, if he fails, give those results to the police, after washing your hands of the guy. Fire him. Forget he exists.

Agreed no one should go to work drunk or stoned. Lets be carefull here though, except for dirt-sheets articles we don't know the full story about what happened. If he wasn't sober and went to the ring he should be fired right now, notice how even on wrestlezone we didn't see «Breaking News: Jeff Hardy is fired» yet? Something is up but what? Was he intoxicated (because its Jeff Hardy we all assume yes) but we don't know for sure. Was he injured? Maybe a legit last minute injury in the ring we don't know. The only thing i know is, that when i watched (streamed on internet) the «Main-Event» ending the first thing i said is something is up.

 

[trendkiller]

Having re-watched the match a couple of times... Hardy was scared as hell of Sting, scared of locking up; he knew full-well that Steve had a hate-on and wanted to punch his teeth in. Stiff punch, stiff hair-pull, stiff Death Drop, hooked shoot-pin, ding-ding-ding.

If this is a work, I'll eat my hat. Sting was pissed legit, Hardy was scared legit and now, if ever, Hardy should indeed be fired.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Having re-watched the match a couple of times... Hardy was scared as hell of Sting, scared of locking up; he knew full-well that Steve had a hate-on and wanted to punch his teeth in. Stiff punch, stiff hair-pull, stiff Death Drop, hooked shoot-pin, ding-ding-ding.

If this is a work, I'll eat my hat. Sting was pissed legit, Hardy was scared legit and now, if ever, Hardy should indeed be fired.

Ok but what is the real story? Look i said numerous time that if Jeff Hardy was stoned or drunk he should be fired, so i'm not defending him, but there is something up thats for sure because as of right now Jeff Hardy is still not fired from TNA he was only sent home according to dirt-sheets. If he was so out of it and people took notice there is no way Jeff Hardy could be still employed, the rest of the TNA locker room would have walked out and said fuck it by now. The only thing i have seen on this site since this whole mess happened is that the wrestlers are «not happy» but they are still there are they so whats up?

 

[Jason Scene]

Right now, people who dislike TNA; much like myself, have such a huge grin spread across their faces. I've read NOTHING but people slamming TNA after last nights PPV which was actually built-up quite well going off the back of the shows in North Carolina.

And to hear, that Jeff Hardy, has finally been shown that he is indeed "mortal".

Makes me happy to be a wrestling fan. Fire his ass and let him go wrestle in somewhere that he would fit into well.

Like Juggalo Championship Wrestling.

 

[Gary87]

Please forgive me, as I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm wondering if anybody noticed the referee giving the X symbol during Sting's ring entrance? Jeff Hardy was clearly not in a right state of mind, and if he still has a job after all of this, then TNA needs to hang their heads.

 

[mrchanbong]

PWInsider.com is reporting that TNA star Jeff Hardy has been sent home from today's TNA Impact taping. Hardy is still being advertised, however, on the company website to appear on this week's show, so the decision could always be changed as the taping does not begin until later tonight.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Please forgive me, as I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm wondering if anybody noticed the referee giving the X symbol during Sting's ring entrance? Jeff Hardy was clearly not in a right state of mind, and if he still has a job after all of this, then TNA needs to hang their heads.

The X symbol could mean anything from being injured thus not being able to compete to being unfit to perform i.e drunk/stone. So what happened do we know? No all we know right now is that the match wasn't long, that the TNA locker room is not happy about the whole situation and that Jeff Hardy was sent home but could still be used at the tapings this week. So until we know for sure lets not speculate because we could all be wrong about what happened.

 

[Sh0wst0pper]

I hate that it's come to this but yes, I agree with you. I've been a fan of Jeff hardy's since his WWE debut and I truly thought he could bring some credibility to TNA's product but enough is enough. There is no reason NOT to send his ass packing over this one. He clearly does not and has no intention of getting his shit together. There are THOUSANDS of wrestlers on the independent circuit that would kill for the opportunities that Jeff has had. He squandered a MONSTER push in his final WWE run and he's doing the exact same thing here. Only it's getting progressively worse considering he never took a shit on the fans in the main event of a ppv while in the WWE. Jeff needs to be FIRED, not "released" as you said. He needs to get his personal demons in line if he ever intends to properly use his talents. The whole situation is a damn shame. It pisses me off! Drop his ass

 

[Trance Metaphor]

I don't know if Jeff Hardy is a major merchandise seller in TNA and that's part of the reason why he's still sticking around, but what I do know is that he's detrimental to everyone around him. He has increasingly sloppy work ethics and this substance addiction of his is jeopardizing the outcome of potentially good storylines/angles. I can't believe his popularity is overshadowing his employment. Why TNA even bothered to give Hardy a second and very transitional World title reign is beyond me. This is not your prime example of a professional. This is a very irresponsible individual that should get the boot out the door sooner than later. For a guy that has gotten so many major opportunities, it's unfortunate what he's doing to himself. So many wrestlers would kill to be in his position. It's not fair towards them and those that actually work hard and responsibly.

 

[BTLion1990]

The fact of the matter is this, whether it was a work or not, TNA have conned the people in the arena and the people at home. Thats like advertising The Rock as the guest host at WM, having him attacked in the first 3 minutes and not seeing him again.

They could've had Hardy ''found'' in the back, and one of the members of the group later revealed as the guy who attacked him, as it would've benefitted him more with Hardy's absence. They could've had a mass brawl in the ring with the No DQ in effect and had it look atleast realistic with Bischoffs No DQ rule ''backfiring''.

He was given the belt despite his court cases, despite the fact he's appeared burnt out at more than one show, and now This? He got sent home so it must've been something to do with him, not the booking, not Sting but him.

This has to be the low point of TNA, and some shit has happened already! Whether Sting was convinced to re-sign or did it anyways, I bet he's thinking that with WrestleMania round the corner in front of 70,000 fans facing the Undertaker is a decision he will live to regret, instead of going through this match.

For now, everyone needs to evaluate Hardy and get him some help! Whether WWE, TNA or his family get it for him he needs it. Its gone too far, and hopefully it won't get any worse than this, not storyline wise, Im talking about Hardys condition. He needs help, please get him it!

 

[johnnyblaze3:16]

where to start?, well first off if he was that messed up they could of fixed it imagine going to your job high as a kite and your boss says "go out there anyway?" why not spin it and have anderson attack hardy backstage and get hardy out of the match? who's really at fault? hardy has been highly injured/high for years but if i was a promoter i WOULD OF NEVER LET HIM GO OUT THERE NEVER! this is how stupid tna management is. hardy obviously needs rehab and to quit tna. or he could be the next great to pass to early. do you think if vince saw hardy like that he would have him go out and wrestle the mainevent of wrestlemania ha! as the fans were chanting "bulls*t" is right whos running it 3 year olds?

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

First off, yes, fire Jeff. He needs to get away from the spotlight before he implodes. What happened last night was bad enough, and there is no way TNA should even consider writing this into a story. For me, TNA need to get the message across that they;
A) Care for their wrestlers,
B) Care what the fans think,
C) That what happened at Victory Road should NOT have happened, and
D) This kind of thing will not happen again.

If, and I say IF, it is a drugs problem then this must be the wake up call TNA need to strengthen their drug testing policy. If this turns out to be TNA's 'Benoit incident' in terms of tackling any drug* issue because of this incident then they may look back at this and think they actually dodged a bullet.

In this whole situation I don't really understand why some people are having shots at Sting. He's a veteran of the business, saw Hardy was in a poor (to put it mildly) shape to perform and by keeping Hardy down in the pin attempt probably saved Jeff and TNA from further embarassment - imagine Jeff had even attempted to climb to the top rope for a Swanton? They've been less cleanly hit since he's been in TNA and I can't blame Sting for ending a match so that he wouldn't have to risk being injured by a move by an unstable performer.

Note - I said drug* because I realise Benoit was not solely influenced by steroid use, but at the time that wasn't known for sure and what Chris did sped up the drug-testing policy

 

[mrbooker]

Who's the writer for TNA? That would be Vince Russo. What is Russo famous for? Pandering to and FUCKING WITH THE INTERNET FAN BASE.

It's a work. If Hardy was really in that bad a shape, they wouldn't have let him get in the ring. Stop and think for one moment - Jeff Hardy who everyone loves to call a spot monkey is going to be allowed to go have a match, had he been that fucked up and had seriously hurt himself or his opponent, TNA would be liable for knowingly letting him perform in that condition. Sorry, wake up. It's russo. I can't believe how many people he's getting with this based purely on how fast the net wants to jump at hardy.

All EVERYONE says is TNA is WCW circa 2000, guess what circa WCW 2000 had a bunch PPV dumbass shoots like this one, anyone remember Goldberg stopping Nash's finisher and walking out of the match, and telling Russo Fuck you, no Hogan ego to blame their for that shoot, its Russo's booking. He used Scott Hall's alcholism and i would not be surprised if he is using Jeff Hardy's past drug abuse now just alot more subtle.

Ontop of it TNA always talks about how the want REAL storylines, taking your top guy who EVERYONE at bound for glory wrote off and didnt give a chance to win because he has drug charges is a pretty easy way to have a shoot at PPV where he comes off as "high" and have everyone believe its real.

All this talk about the ref throwing up the "X" the ref going to the production memeber during stings entrance, Bischoff going to each man and whispering in his ear etc... shoot, shoot, and shoot

Sting saying I agree I agree to the crowd this isnt stings first time dealing with BS shoots and swerves at PPV for all we know he agrees that this shoot style is BS

Now if im wrong I really hope Jeff goes into rehab and TNA should fire him but I really dont think this was real and think it was all planned perhaps as an exit stradegy for Jeff if he does need to legally step away from wrestling due to his charges this being they storyline equivelant to his real life again would not put it past Russo. I never believe dirt sheets ever unless its straight out the lions mouth, you have guys lying in the New York Times saying Sting signed a contract with WWE, you really think some guy writing columns for a website is going to be anymore honest then someone writing for a credited newspaper, their has been ZERO info from anyone that can give isurance as to what is going on.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

Who's the writer for TNA? That would be Vince Russo. What is Russo famous for? Pandering to and FUCKING WITH THE INTERNET FAN BASE.

It's a work. If Hardy was really in that bad a shape, they wouldn't have let him get in the ring. Stop and think for one moment - Jeff Hardy who everyone loves to call a spot monkey is going to be allowed to go have a match, had he been that fucked up and had seriously hurt himself or his opponent, TNA would be liable for knowingly letting him perform in that condition. Sorry, wake up. It's russo. I can't believe how many people he's getting with this based purely on how fast the net wants to jump at hardy.

All EVERYONE says is TNA is WCW circa 2000, guess what circa WCW 2000 had a bunch PPV dumbass shoots like this one, anyone remember Goldberg stopping Nash's finisher and walking out of the match, and telling Russo Fuck you, no Hogan ego to blame their for that shoot, its Russo's booking. He used Scott Hall's alcholism and i would not be surprised if he is using Jeff Hardy's past drug abuse now just alot more subtle.

Ontop of it TNA always talks about how the want REAL storylines, taking your top guy who EVERYONE at bound for glory wrote off and didnt give a chance to win because he has drug charges is a pretty easy way to have a shoot at PPV where he comes off as "high" and have everyone believe its real.

All this talk about the ref throwing up the "X" the ref going to the production memeber during stings entrance, Bischoff going to each man and whispering in his ear etc... shoot, shoot, and shoot

Sting saying I agree I agree to the crowd this isnt stings first time dealing with BS shoots and swerves at PPV for all we know he agrees that this shoot style is BS

Now if im wrong I really hope Jeff goes into rehab and TNA should fire him but I really dont think this was real and think it was all planned perhaps as an exit stradegy for Jeff if he does need to legally step away from wrestling due to his charges this being they storyline equivelant to his real life again would not put it past Russo. I never believe dirt sheets ever unless its straight out the lions mouth, you have guys lying in the New York Times saying Sting signed a contract with WWE, you really think some guy writing columns for a website is going to be anymore honest then someone writing for a credited newspaper, their has been ZERO info from anyone that can give isurance as to what is going on.

You know what, you made valid points. But even Russo would not stoop this low, at least i don't think so it would reak of «old WCW» . TNA is already compared to it, i don't think they would be stupid enough to repeat it. The thing i can agree with you is that reading dirt-sheets for information about what happened is a little foolish considering that if a legit reporter at the New-York times could fool us with the Sting signing in WWE imagine a reporter at a dirt -sheet. Of course we may be both wrong and this is a shoot (too far fetch even with Russo booking) but If Jeff Hardy was truly drunk/stone he HAS TO BE FIRED.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

If Jeff Hardy was legitimately "in no condition to perform", then yes it's time for TNA to part ways with him. Given that this has happened at least once before at a ppv, I see no reason to doubt the validity that Hardy was under the influence last night. Hardy's problems with drugs are well known and, as we all know, have caught up with him to such an extent that he might be looking at prison time in North Carolina.

If TNA doesn't take some sort of action beyond just sending Hardy home for a week or so, then all it enforces the notion that TNA is a second rate promotion with no concern for the well being of its wrestlers. If there's the smallest of chances that it was some sort of work, which I personally don't believe, then TNA at the very least pissed all over anyone who ordered their Victory Road ppv mostly to see the Sting vs. Jeff Hardy match.