Is it Time to Fire Jeff Hardy?

[sfury2005]

You can't just assume he was stoned. We have no idea of the predicament yet. Yes I know he was most likely, but wait until the facts come in. Plus yes I know you hold someones life in your hands when wrestling. He is not all about his fans, remember he blames them for all his dangerous behavior

Don't act like I was defending him or his problem because I wasn't. I was simply giving out suggestions of some other stuff that could have been a factor. Yes TNA has HORRIBLE BOOKING in its WHC. Stings return anyone?

Maybe giving Sting the belt wasn't what you call horrible booking but it was a way to get it off someone others didn't want to work with. So they figured bring Sting in give him the belt, he does a rematch at Victory Road and then Sting does a program with Anderson and/or RVD going towards Lockdown.

It's been said he was high when he messed up with the chair shot on Anderson and gave him the concussion. I would bet Anderson might be a bit leery of working with him if that's true.

 

[Vagrant247]

Its funny that the guy with 420 in his name is the first to bring up weed. I might have missed it but I don't remember seeing anyone say he was high from smoking weed. General consensus is that he was messed up, but who knows off what. And I've never seen RVD or Sabu look that bad just walking to the ring, so yeah, there is a difference. I personally feel Hardy was out of his mind and shouldn't have been allowed in the ring no matter if he was stoned, tired, or whatever excuse he throws out there.

 

[nikvoodoo]

First, if he was stoned and still tried, give him props at least he gave it a shot.

Don't act like I was defending him or his problem because I wasn't

Uh actually, you did. you may not have meant to, but you did with your words.

You do NOT give props to someone who arrives to work impaired. You fire them. Especially if that job requires your attentiveness to someone else's safety. You admitted he was likely screwed up. I'm saying that's inexcusable, and the people you should give props to are Brian Hef, Bischoff, and Sting. they are the ones that prevented Hardy from killing himself tonight.

Fire Hardy. Cut your losses and Fire him now. Make it a huge Angle on Thursday. I hate TNA. I hate them and I never watch their programming. If I read on Wrestlezone that they fired Hardy for coming to the PPV stoned, I'll come back into the fold and watch them for standing up and doing what is right. Fire this risk monkey addict before he kills himself or someone else in the ring.

 

[dizzle1119]

So what jeff was blazed out of his mind its jeff hardy thats what he does all the time and who dont smoke weed whats wrong with that look at rvd sabu all those other guys and yall say fire jeff

This had nothing to do with weed. Jeff Hardy is a bonafide junkie. Smoking a little weed is normal, even though it's extremely childish for a man with professional obligations to get high while on the job. But as I said, this has nothing to do with weed.

There is a HUGE difference is smoking a bit of weed now & then and being addicted to pills and/or crystal meth. Jeff is a pill freak, and that's NOT okay.

 

[Prince Punk]

Seriously.... 1:28 Seconds... I don't care who was what. If either one of those wrestlers was not fit to compete YOU DON'T LET THEM WALK THROUGH THAT CURTIN!!! I don't care if it's your Main Event Man. I don't care if it's Kurt "Freaking" Angle, Mr. Kennedy, RVD, or Jeff Hardy... You don't have them go out there. This is "supposed" to be the No. 2 Company in America for Wrestling... Yet they just Had a main event that lasted 1:28 seconds on PPV... I have already put more time into my THOUGHTS on this POST. Screw the Fire Hardy Talks. Lets start with the Agents, and work our way up to stripping the entire company...

Now if Hardy is on something (would not be that far fetched at all) How did the WWE keep him presentable and "clean" for so long? My guess would be they had someone holding his hand 24/7. TNA has been great for the health of Kurt Angle. However it's going to Kill Jeff Hardy. But he won't die alone... At this rate he is going to be the cancer for TNA. This is not Jeff Hardy's fault. Even if he is the problem (which more than likely is) HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED!!! Hell tape a vintage of someone attacking him in the back telling him how worthless he is... and have them come out to face Sting. You don't send him out there to face someone who is Sting's age and expect anything... At least not when he has something wrong with him...

Though I would like to congratulate TNA on Making itself look like it belongs in a High School Gym (yeah they are not even good enough right now for a bingo hall) They have the talent. They proved tonight that they would rather put that talent at risk and give a ruined main event over replacing people and have a decent match. Hell two people who barely know anything about wrestling in the ring improving would have been a better main event than what closed out the show tonight... 1:28 Seconds....

 

[SteWieH]

honestly....
you know in my Opinion if this really was jeffs fault like EVERYONE for the most part is to be assuming
Then why didnt they say he no showed the event? or have something happen like he was attacked or something. I finally got the watch the main event video. Man that looks pretty crappy imho.
NEither wrestler either looked they wanted for the match to go this way plus it was worked if jeff was "high" off drugs you wouldn't truly able to tell. Did Jeff look like this was bullshit. probably. Eric prob just told him he was going to have a squash match.
have you ever seen jeff not give a crap in the ring like he did today?
normally when someones ally is getting stomped you dont stand there. honestlythe way it looks. TNA screwed up majorly here. if they knew this main event was going to Bomb they should have quicky re-written it or something. have sting do ANOTHER title shot at someone "mysteriously" to help put the main event some.
the main evvent looks like TNA qas like you know we wasnt sure how we wanted this match to truly go soo... Here you go. we arent going to finish it either. we are going to screw all you fans over.
I agree with the above post that right now TNA doesnt even look to even deserve the place of a bingo hall right now.
you know what guys. start over and do it the way CZW used to do it in some park or somewheres.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

First of all, let's do something we all blame TNA for - let's use common sense. Please? At least once?

We don't know what happened. That's the story. Don't try to be smarky about it. You can throw theories and assumptions around - that's fine - but don't point fingers ... yet.

We don't know what happened. Was it a work? Was it Sting's fault? Was it Hardy's fault? What did Bischoff whisper to Sting and Hardy? None of us can answer any of the questions right now.

That being said, I stand by my opinion that whoever caused this, whether it's Sting, Hardy or anyone else, should be fired on the spot, no questions asked.

Remember, it's very likely that this is not TNA's idea, and that this was something between Sting and Hardy. TNA management cannot see into the future. So, the best way to address the issue and clean your name is to be professional about it and punish the people that caused it. Period.

If it was Hardy - fire him. If it was Sting - yes, fire him. If it was Bischoff - fire him. If it was Russo - fire him. That's it. End of discussion.

Whoever did this must be fired. They put the entire company in a bad position and turned off all of its fans, because I guarantee you - nobody liked this. It's not even good publicity. The 3.3.11 thing was good publicity as the numbers showed. This? This just shows that there's something very wrong, there's a cancer running in TNA since January 4th (we never had such bullshit before), and TNA's job right now is to detect it and cure it. I don't know who it is, it might be a person, it might be a mindset, whatever it is - I, as a loyal TNA fan, want it out of the company because this is unacceptable.

 

[Low_Ki]

TNA needs to do what is best for Jeff Hardy.

Need we be reminded that Jeff Hardy is still a human being. It is true that Jeff has really screwed up now. I don't believe that there is any way back for Jeff Hardy now. Do I think he should be fired? Yes I do. Do I think he will be fired? I doubt it. I hope that TNA can help him find some kind of rehabilitation, or hell, in a time like this, ask the WWE to intervene. They have done it for all previous talent. Just ask Scott Hall.

What happened at Victory Road was a warning for TNA Wrestling. If they do not head that warning, things are only going to get worse.

 

[Homesy]

yes it is

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

If Hardy was genuinely fucked up and unable to perform then its time to fire him, simple as.

I really hate to see a man I idolised growing up throwing his career away. I was a big Hardyz mark, and I am really enjoying Hardy's Anti-Christ character but you cannot keep a man so unreliable under contract. It is affecting the company as a whole. IF Jeff was high as fuck last night and unable to wrestle, then he is responsible for so many fans being pissed off at TNA, which will obviously reflect negatively on the company and make less people buy the next PPV, and watch the TV show, because they are angry.

In the real world, you dont perform = you lose your job. That should also be the case in wrestling. Perhaps, if TNA truly believe Hardy can change then get him to go to rehab or something, but I believe the guy is a lost cause. He is another Scott Hall or Jake Roberts, who will keep turning up to the odd show in his 50s and making a spectacle of himself.

I think TNA need to cut their losses with Hardy. They cannot afford to keep a man like that on their roster. He is one of the highest earners, he has a responsibility to TNA and its fans and he is not pulling his weight. I know he has missed matches before, he has had the whole drug trial thing and now this. They need to fire him.

He is a shambles, which is a shame as a fully focused, healthy, motivated Hardy could have done great things with the Anti-Christ gimmick. It is such a shame that he cannot control himself.


However, you have to ask yourself. What kind of a company lets a wrestler walk out there in an unfit condition in the main event where he is facing your World Champion. Change the fucking match if one guy cant compete. Do not short change your fans or fuck them over in the way you did last night, it is not good for business, not good for the company and not good for the business. I do not care if its Kurt Angle, John Cena, Undertaker...whoever. If the wrestler cannot do what he is supposed to do, then change the match. Do not give the fans a 90 second fucking joke of a contest. It is the complete wrong thing to do.

Whoever let Hardy go out there is a disgrace. Not only fire Hardy, but fire whoever made that call. You DO NOT DO THINGS LIKE THAT. Get the man into rehab, fire him and fire whoever sent him out there

 

[wwe fan2009]

of course he was stoned. hes nothing but a druggie.

 

[Davi323]

it's time for TNA to admit that perhaps Jeff Hardy is a liability to your company, rather than an asset. This is something WWE fans have known for a few years, you can't help stupid, and Jeff Hardy is stupid. When you hired him, you knew he was already in legal trouble. Then you put your biggest title on him, while he waits for his sentencing. Then you defended him when he stupidly posted a video in a diner where he appeared smashed out of his mind.

Jeff Hardy is a pathetic drugged up loser who has generated nothing but bad publicity for your company. When will you acknowledge that you never should have hired him in the first place? I am thankful that this happened at a TNA PPV instead of a WWE PPV though. Let TNA get the bad press. You knew who he was when you hired him, you aren't getting anything less than you deserve. Jeff Hardy is your fucking problem, deal with him.

 

[streicher187]

Couple of things I noticed after watching it on youtube..

1. Hard slipped going up the steps, looks like he slid off
2. When Sting was on way to ring the official was talking to hardy..
3. As sting was entering the ring the official threw up a big X with his arms
4. looks like Hardy was handed something and puts it in his mouth shorty after hugging bishoff and is chewing it..
5. Looks like hardy is really trying to kick out but Sting is holding him down hard..

So I'm wondering if he was injured or if not the official decided he was in no shape to wrestle and threw up the X that's why Bishoff came out. Wondering if Bishoff told Hardy that Sting would do his move and hardy would kick out then someone would come down to beat down Sting then when he went to sting he said something with the mic behind his back maybe he told Sting to end it early and not let him kick out..

I don't normally watch TNA do the Refs throw their arms up in an X all the time?

 

[dude_d_dude]

This is a slap in the face to all Sting fans who wanted to see him get a good last few years of his career in WWE.
There is no way that something this stupid would've happened had Sting gone to the E and wrestled there for a bit.
VKM doesn't take on this sort of shit, yet Dixie "I won't fire you just yet" Carter does.
TNA fans are being tested more and more and quite frankly they deserve better than this.

I'm no TNA mark but I still tune in every now and then, and to see Sting and the fans being treated with this BS because of Hardy's incompetence is nothing short of disrespectful and disgraceful.

Shame on you Jeff Hardy AND Dixie Carter, YOU BOTH are going to screw things up.

 

[Matth3w]

Usually the "X" means an injury has occured to a wrestler, and a trainer is supposed to come out to check on said wrestler....But obviously this didn't happen in his case.

 

[blackmetalbuick]

Wow I just managed to catch what happened on YouTube. I think without question it's time to get rid of Hardy. I highly doubt that this was really about an injury or anything like that. Hardy's eyes were barely open. Yes it's time to get rid of Jeff and let him self destruct on his own, and who knows, maybe Sting will be following Hardy out the exit door. What an INSULT. Don't pay the guy lip service by referring to him as The Icon and then make him deal with BS like this. The only thing they managed to do right was to end the match quickly, before Hardy had a chance to mess up and injure his opponent.

Really unprofessional, I wouldn't even go to a indy show in some gymnasium and expect a performer to come out wasted, but on a PPV for one of wrestling's top companies?

Jeff had his second chance. I didn't mind still seeing him on TNA programming and getting a chance to succeed while still going through his court battles and stuff, but now its obvious that he just doesn't care and probably thinks they never will get rid of him because of how much slack he already got.

I'm sure everyone over at WWE is getting a big kick out of what Jeff Hardy turned himself into.

Not only did they manage to piss off their entire audience, both live and at home, but now one of their top performers is clearly unhappy. I'm surprised Sting even agreed to come out at all, but he IS professional and didn't want to bail on the match. But the fact that by the time it was over he was upset enough to openly state "I agree" with the fans chanting BS right in front of the camera, Sting is probably extremely upset.

 

[dvayne]

After rewatching it a few times I think it's pretty obvious Bischoff came down for the audible and set up a "screw job" with Sting & the ref. Sting was visibly up set with how the night ended and rightfully so. He has a respected veteran well past his prime and his health and career was in the hands of a man that can't even pull it together for one night.

Not only should Hardy be fired but whoever cleared him to come down to the ring needs to be replaced as well. It has been well documented that earlier in the day there was reports of his condition and that there could be a problem.

Do you think Vince wouldn't have come up with a better audible on the spot then ending a PPV like that?. Since the number one contender match was a shit ending you could have made it a triple threat for the title. Or at least started sending out members of Immortal to attack Sting after he buried Hardy. Even that would have made it look a little more believable.

The bottom line is you don't end a ppv with fans starting a bullshit chant and one of the biggest legends to ever step foot in a ring to be seen walking to the back breaking kayfabe agreeing with the fans.

If they don't immediately fire Jeff Hardy there will be some backlash in the lockerroom. If I was Sting I would demand Hardy to be fired or they would be without a champion on Impact.

On a side note. I would have Bischoff & Hogan come out on Impact announcing Hardy has been fired from Immortal and have them make a mainevent for the world title pitting Sting against, Style, Anderson & RVD. Make it a good 20 min ppv quality match with Anderson getting the win after help from Immortal setting him up as the new leader of Immortal.

 

[sislater69]

Well obviously we don't know all the details yet, but if he was stoned, then yes he needs to go.

One noticable thing is the lack of mentions about the event on Twitter. Jeff Hardy posted "everything is op", whatever the hell that means.. typo I guess he meant "ok".

One thing is for sure, based on the amount of people talking about this, this weeks impact will probably do record numbers.

 

[spinningtorturerack]

Considering the amount of unrest TNA has gone through recently, this is the last thing they need.

I think Dixie knew she was taking a risk in hiring Jeff Hardy,and it seemed like it was a decent pay off for a while, centring the show around this new heel. However he has completely blown it. There is no justifiable way Jeff can be kept employed, especially if the rest of the roster kick off about it, which is inevitable. He has ruined his whole wrestling career, WWE will never take him back now he has made a mockery of it all so he is gonna be out on a limb!

 

[Poop Master Flex]

First off like 2 months ago we don't really know what state of mind Hardy was really in.
Personally I think the rumors are true, even Russo isn't stupid enough to end a show with a 1 minute 28 second main event (and if Russo is that stupid then he is the one who needs to be released).

All I know is this is the 2nd time in 3-4 months where there has been legit concern for Hardy's well being going into a PPV, this is the 2nd time in 2011 and its only March for Christ sake.

Once again, I don't think this is booking because booking things this way just makes TNA look bad, I don't see how any booking team could screw up this badly, I think Hardy has some issues personally.

If the rumors are true then Hardy needs to be fired ASAP. I understand Jeff was a big star in WWE, I also understand when Jeff is CLEAN he can be pretty good but this guy clearly has some demons that he needs to take care of right now and being on the road isn't going to help things. If TNA wants to be nice about it they should give him an ultimatum, rehab or fired like the WWE did. If Hardy actually gives 2 shits he will go to rehab and if he doesn't well then you know where you stand with Hardy and then you can not feel bad about firing him.

Fact of the matter is, with all these rumors over the 2 PPV's where hardy was supposedly in a different state of mind its at a point where Hardy has become a liability for TNA not an Asset and it would probably be best to just cut all ties with the guy.

 

[3/4 Facelock]

Why fire him? TNA and Vince Russo will probably write this into the storyline. Watch....Jeff Hardy drank spiked water which caused him to be "disorientated".

Said water was put there by...I don't know...Abyss...or Desmond Wolfe...or Crimson. Who knows?

As much as I am in agreement that Hardy should be fired, I doubt that the 3 Stooges of Hogan, Bischoff, and Carter will do so. They paid way too much money for Jeff Hardy and something like $10,000 for that extremely ugly purple and silver belt.

Watch. He should be fired, but TNA is going to write this into a storyline and "prove" that they "fooled" us all.

 

[wwe fan2009]

look at his track record. jeff has no showed events, and has been stoned at other events and ppvs. yet he keeps getting rewarded with title runs and title shots. maybe it will take a drug overdose for TNA to realize Jeff is nothing but a no good drug addict. if any of us went to work high or stoned we would be fired on the spot. why is jeff special. If I were running TNA jeff would have been gone a long time ago, the last time he came stoned. Someone like jeff should never be world chap. he does not deserve it. He obviously cares more about being stoned then he does about the business

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

None of us know what happened. But I'm a fairly intelligent, well-rounded individual. I've seen a lot of different drugs, and the effects they have on people. Oh, and I'm not blind. Jeff Hardy was high. That, or this is a work.

If it turns out Hardy was high, can him. Now. Fire that piece of trash, and never look back. Watching that match, and his entrance, I feel Hardy was high as a kite, and I'm not talking RVD high. He was on some sort of hard drug, or very drunk, at least that's how I saw it.

If this is a work, fire everyone. By everyone, I mean anyone in charge of that show. If Bischoff and Hogan have any actual power, and I'm not 100% sure they do, goodbye. Vince Russo (a long time coming)--goodbye. If this is some sort of kayfabe, worked-shoot, those in power have reached an all-time low. People paid for this event, not to watch Russo and friends get their rocks off.

Someone is at fault, and I don't believe it's Sting. It doesn't make any sense to say it's Sting. When has he had something like this occur in his 20+ year career? Sting gets the benefit of the doubt. The rest do not.

Someone needs to go over this, I'm just not sure who.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I'm with Nick B. on this.

We may not know what happened, and we can certainly dismiss dirt sheet reports as uninformed or at the very least amateurish, but after watching that sequence twice now, I just don't see the logic anywhere that points to anything other than what's being reported.

• Hardy looked like he just swallowed everything under the kitchen sink.

• Sting was visibly furious, and the "I agree!" he shouted to the crowd chanting "This is Bullshit" was very, very telling of the seriousness of the situation.

• Bischoff looked like he was absolutely stalling and calling an audible (whether it was his decision or someone in the back is irrelevant) to buy time.

I'm sorry, but even as arguably this forums biggest TNA mark and one of it's biggest Hardy supporters, this kind of behavior is impossible to stomach or defend in any capacity. You simply can't allow someone to perform in that state of mind, nor can you build your main event story line around them if they're not clean enough to actually carry out the tasks asked of them — especially on Pay-Per-View.

Hall was fired for the same reasons, and Hardy by all accounts should as well. If they don't want to fire him, at the very least he needs to be pulled from any of the current storylines and the company needs to try to salvage what they can from it and move forward.

I wrote up in the Egyptian Butterfly Championship thread that one of the things they could possibly do is use Sting as a spear head here — write in a story that has him "unite" the locker room by trashing Hardy's belt on live television in an iMPACT! main event and asking Eric Young (who'll lose the comedy bit for the sake of breaking the kayfabe walls) to allow Sting to carry the real TNA World Heavyweight Championship for the betterment of the company.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Hall was fired for the same reasons, and Hardy by all accounts should as well. If they don't want to fire him, at the very least he needs to be pulled from any of the current storylines and the company needs to try to salvage what they can from it and move forward.

I wrote up in the Egyptian Butterfly Championship thread that one of the things they could possibly do is use Sting as a spear head here — write in a story that has him "unite" the locker room by trashing Hardy's belt on live television in an iMPACT! main event and asking Eric Young (who'll lose the comedy bit for the sake of breaking the kayfabe walls) to allow Sting to carry the real TNA World Heavyweight Championship for the betterment of the company.

If my initial feeling is correct, and Hardy was indeed high as a kite (drunk, whatever), he needs to go. TNA may want to keep him around, because he draws, BROTHER. But they can't. Again, assuming the reports are true.

He just made a mockery of the entire company, and everyone who works within that company. He destroyed a main event, plain and simple. A main event that people paid to see.

If this wasn't a work, Hardy must be fired. There's no other way around it. If anyone in TNA has half a brain, they will can Hardy, apologize in some fashion, and move on. Never mention this travesty again. Turning this into a storyline, if Hardy was actually intoxicated, would be totally classless.